Guild Wars 2

zepp.4109:

Doomdesire.9365:

I like how BG complains about PvD considering PvD is the only reason why they are here.

In fact, every server in this matchup…in this entire game for that matter, has PvD’d

Every server in T1 has PvD to get to where they are
BG and their ~10 weeks straight of PvD against SoR in T2
JQ and their ~7? weeks straight of PvD against SoR, BG, SoS in T1
SoR and their PvD during Euro timeslot for ~6? weeks

Every server in T1 PvDs daily
SoR – Euro
BG – Oceanic
JQ – Sea

Nobody here. Not JQ, not SoR, not BG has legitimate PvD complaints. We’ve all done it and we all know it. This is the state of T1. There’s no real timezone outside of NA where everyone can get together and actually compete. It’s more like timezone X logs on, ticks at 400ppt, logs off just in time for the enemy to log on and tick at 400ppt.

And for what it’s worth, don’t take this as a “trolling” attempt but there isn’t a timezone out there where BG is in last place in terms of coverage. You guys still have the second strongest EU, NA, and SEA, and the strongest OCEANIC and are able to maintain at least your shard during all timezones outside EU…most of the time

BG is fighting against a large SoR zerg right now (oceanic primetime).

And JQ doesn’t PvDoor at SEA, BG and SoR has large zergs to fight against them at this timezone.

Every server has a large zerg on at all times. Doesn’t mean you don’t PvD.

Hell I’ve PvD an entire BL before in NA primetime while the other BLs have had enemy huge zergs.

The only time I would consider people not to PvD is when each map has a force, not a consilidation force that jumps maps because nobody is there.

To the other poster

I play oceanic and early sea all the time. Much more than I should being an NA player. As it stands during oceanic time SoR has one large consolidation force of HIRE and at random intervals NA players staying up late. BG EB almost always has a CA XF force and there is always a WM force and a MERC BL hopping force. Sometimes I see a small NOC force of maybe 10 as well, although it seems their playtimes are inconsistent with the others.

SEA time it’s usually an NYS/SAHP force on our home BLs and we usually tick very low (I would guess, mid 100s?) during SEA time and will generally lose everything outside our home BL if it’s not upgraded/sieged

Been happening to me as well. My friend and guildies were able to get in fine. I googled around abit and there was a similar problem in march where the problem was because a recently installed video driver did not completely delete the old driver files and that was somehow interferring….however I tried the solution didn’t work. Just out of curiosity, how many of you having this problem recently installed a video driver?

Master of Timespace.2548:

Doomdesire.9365:

P/D Condition thief is stronger overall in WvW, moot in PvE

They actually have quite a bit of conditions

Mine personally has

Burn
Bleed
Poison
Cripple
Blind
Vulnerability

You also may get some conditions from your steal trait. Gunk for instance

sneak attack through gunk = 5 confusion stacks. it’s nice. But what do you use to burn your foes?

Since there’s a definite cap on condition duration (100%) I took out the standard krait, centaur, and afflicted runes and changed it out for balth runes. Extremely useful and every 30 or so seconds I deal 7-8 seconds of burning which ticks for 720 damage on average.

You condition duration will go down though. The difference for me was about 1-1.5s on sneak attack but I switched out my carrion weapons for givers.

7850
i5

Happens to me too. Getting the latest video drivers seemed to have made the frequency of it occurring less, but it still happens. It’ll usually happen 2-3 times a week. Extremely annoying and it seems to only happen in GW2. My screen totally blacks out, no video signal, can still hear all the sounds, and for some reason my fans turn all the way up (nothing is overheating, I average 65C on my GPU at load with a max of about 70C)

I like how BG complains about PvD considering PvD is the only reason why they are here.

In fact, every server in this matchup…in this entire game for that matter, has PvD’d

Every server in T1 has PvD to get to where they are
BG and their ~10 weeks straight of PvD against SoR in T2
JQ and their ~7? weeks straight of PvD against SoR, BG, SoS in T1
SoR and their PvD during Euro timeslot for ~6? weeks

Every server in T1 PvDs daily
SoR – Euro
BG – Oceanic
JQ – Sea

Nobody here. Not JQ, not SoR, not BG has legitimate PvD complaints. We’ve all done it and we all know it. This is the state of T1. There’s no real timezone outside of NA where everyone can get together and actually compete. It’s more like timezone X logs on, ticks at 400ppt, logs off just in time for the enemy to log on and tick at 400ppt.

And for what it’s worth, don’t take this as a “trolling” attempt but there isn’t a timezone out there where BG is in last place in terms of coverage. You guys still have the second strongest EU, NA, and SEA, and the strongest OCEANIC and are able to maintain at least your shard during all timezones outside EU…most of the time

I actually think thieves have more condition cleanse than they need.

When traited it’s 2 everytime you use CND/BP HS so long as you wait the stealth duration

Eon.5428:

That plank video thanks for sharing that was funny im sad i missed the opportunity to do it.

We used to steal blueprints in the JP when people would drop them at their commander’s feet as well!

My friend who posted that plank video has one on his channel where he steals a cata and treb blueprint from MERC…good times.

This is the ultimate troll back before planks got nerfed (seriously anet<)

I spent more time than I should in the JP denying ports and killing insane amounts of campers just with 1/2 of us and planks :P

I’m in some of the clips, too!

If it’s a duel resetting is generally against my rulebook. I don’t do it and neither should the opponent.

In open world combat if someone were to run from a 1v1 then I would consider it a loss, unless of course you attacked them when they had 25% HP with all their stuff on CD. Running would be the appropriate response then.

SFShinigami.2015:

Doomdesire.9365:

Is there any roam for solo roaming in tier 1 or what? So many zergs lately…

Anyways, looking for duels PM me in game

Short answer, yes, I ran into many solo or 2-3 mans tonight

Long answer, no, I really don’t care for spvp but in terms of straight up fights you’re probably going to get more bang for you buck in terms of time spent, there. You don’t really have to go looking for a fight and you’re not gonna get run over by larger groups or a zerg.

Well, when I mean solo roaming I literally mean one guy running around. I hardly ever see that anymore, and even these self proclaimed individually skilled havoc squads will run until they have a teammate or two to back them up. I simply don’t understand the fun nor the reasoning behind it or why people care so much about not dying.

SPvP can be fun and sometimes addicting, but imo it’s worse because the area is so small you’re almost always either outnumbering them or being outnumbered. That and I can’t make the same build as my WvW one because Anet decided they didn’t want variety in spvp builds :c

Don’t forget the wurm in 3 seconds!

besides Lions arch!

How cool would it be to make a living story regarding Divinity’s Reach and the great collapse? There could even be a dungeon in it!

P/D Condition thief is stronger overall in WvW, moot in PvE

They actually have quite a bit of conditions

Mine personally has

Burn
Bleed
Poison
Cripple
Blind
Vulnerability

You also may get some conditions from your steal trait. Gunk for instance

It’s possible, but only if the circumstances permit.

First off he’s probably running full ascended w/ max damage traits and signet might stacking. You had to be below 50% HP before the CnD landed and you have to be of light profession/semi glassy

He also has to probably sacrifice his heal, and all his utilities to get the signet might stacking build.

Is there any roam for solo roaming in tier 1 or what? So many zergs lately…

Anyways, looking for duels PM me in game

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The only reason why there are so many thief QQs on the forums is because only people disgruntled with it come and cry. People don’t go to the forums to say “Thief is so balanced!”, they mainly only go to another class’ forum if they have a problem with the class. The forums DO NOT represent the majority, as the survey showed. Even most people in my guild(by that I mean practically everyone) has no problem with thieves.

Also, the only thing thieves really excel at against other classes is roaming, and it sticks out when a thief kills you in a 1v1. People don’t complain guardians are OP in large scale zerg combat, because it doesn’t stick out, but in reality guardians are probably by far the best class for large scale combat due to the massive output of healing.

You can level up in downstate. Full HP instantly. It’s happened to me on occasion before. Especially if you partake in an event.

zepp.4109:

BT doesn’t play GvGs…

Btw, we can agree that BT and TW are the best guilds in NA servers. =P

Don’t even know how you can say that when BT doesn’t even GvG. Numbers play the biggest difference in open world combat. TW has proven itself in GvGs and has beaten every NA guild that dared GvG them. BT refuses to even GvG.

Remember anyone can run full map zergs.

Personally I have never seen BT run with under 40 people, and the majority of the time their zerg is 50-60+

Think most of JQ will agree with me when I say BT runs full map zergs. Hell, I the 2-3 BG folks that transferred to SoR a week ago have told me when they ran with BT it was always 40 minimum. I’m not saying BT isn’t skilled, I’m saying it’s hard to wipe when you have a full map zerg behind you against smaller groups.

Gotta love that “Grouch” guy

“agree[about it needing a nerf] unless you’re a thief”

They really need to change who they let in on these SoTGs

oxide.8324:

Kryyg.8576:

Just out of curiosity what does SoR have? I know BG has a “war council” and JQ has a “wvw conclave”.

What does SoR’s leadership consist of/what’s it called/who’s part of it??

Just Indo, though they will have you believe otherwise.

I’m sorry I didn’t know you were on SoR.

Oh wait, you’re not on SoR. You’re an outsider looking in and you don’t know anything about our community.

Indo’s an idolized person on our server. He organizes our meetings and gives them. He doesn’t make decisions for our server. We do that as whole. He isn’t our “leader”.

Scorael.8952:

Thanks for all the constructive responses (except for that one troll post). I really learned a few things about perma-stealth thieves.

FYI I have ran D/D in sPvP before and find that it is really cheap/easy (take your pick).

So moral of the story is CC/AoE/stand in the black powder circle and hurt thief and/or force a reveal.

Standing in BP is situational and you’re going to get hit no matter what, but if it benefits you to prevent him from getting 9s of stealth as compared to 3s and you would sacrifice getting hit by it, then it’s worth it, but it’s completely up to your judgement. I’m just putting it out there as it’s helped me alot when the thief was nearly dead.

Also if you’re going to try and hit him with AoE, best bet, if he is melee, to AoE at your feet and stand in it, unless you know/accurately predict where he is, because you know most of the time he’s going in behind you for that backstab, so if you aoe at your feet, he is going to get hit.

akamon.2769:

one of these weeks, everyone should take work/school/IRL off (if we don’t already) and play against each other 24/7 with respect to your “timezones”. and see how that plays out. just. for. kicks.

had a day off yesterdayD so tuesday is the new monday for this week. bah, mondays.

Just form 100man zergs and farm each other while rezzing until we all get precursors.

Nightcrawler.3219:

Doomdesire.9365:

Nightcrawler.3219:

Doomdesire.9365:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Doomdesire.9365:

“SoR took our keep?!!?”

“MUST BE USING AC HACKS. It’s impossible for us skilled blackgate to lose to those SoR noobs!”

You consider Eyefinity hacking and yet you openly allow your server mates to use it?

Btw – At this rate you people exploiting the AC, whichever way you’re doing it, are going to get them removed from the game like Orbs.

But that’ll probably be a good thing. Let people kill people, and siege kill walls.

Yes, I openly allow my server mates to use it. I totally said that. Or was it some guy on my server that I don’t even know?

Going by your logic, you guys support speedhacks, AC hacking, porting zergs through bay, right?

Intelligence, get some.

Do you even know that anet considers using Eyefinity on an arrow cart to destroy siege you normally can’t see as an exploit? I can copy the email I sent, I just asked if I can do it as well and they told me it’s an exploit. But I couldn’t even do it anyways with my computer. :\

You’re not good with sarcasm huh? I never said it wasn’t an exploit. Trolls need to stop twisting my words.

Nobody can see sarcasm on the forums as ppl don’t know what the person is like who is posting. You said you allow your server mates to do it, which I’m letting you know it’s an exploit. And I don’t understand how you got that logic from UnrepentantProcrastinator post. Go Home Troll.

It was pretty obvious sarcasm. I’m trying to understand how you don’t know it’s sarcasm.

Nightcrawler.3219:

Doomdesire.9365:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Doomdesire.9365:

“SoR took our keep?!!?”

“MUST BE USING AC HACKS. It’s impossible for us skilled blackgate to lose to those SoR noobs!”

You consider Eyefinity hacking and yet you openly allow your server mates to use it?

Btw – At this rate you people exploiting the AC, whichever way you’re doing it, are going to get them removed from the game like Orbs.

But that’ll probably be a good thing. Let people kill people, and siege kill walls.

Yes, I openly allow my server mates to use it. I totally said that. Or was it some guy on my server that I don’t even know?

Going by your logic, you guys support speedhacks, AC hacking, porting zergs through bay, right?

Intelligence, get some.

Do you even know that anet considers using Eyefinity on an arrow cart to destroy siege you normally can’t see as an exploit? I can copy the email I sent, I just asked if I can do it as well and they told me it’s an exploit. But I couldn’t even do it anyways with my computer. :\

It’s called sarcasm. I never said it wasn’t an exploit. Trolls need to stop twisting my words.

Parthis.2091:

DevonCarver.5370:

New maps are definitely in the plans, however I can’t say with any degree of certainty when that might be. It takes a good deal of time to get a map to the level of polish that the current maps are in and while we want to get new maps out to mix up the gameplay, we aren’t going to release them until they are totally ready. When there is more to tell, we will tell it, but for now all I can say is we definitely want to do new maps and will when time allows.

… Devon… could you please just actually answer the question for once. Of course you want to add new maps.

Are you working on new maps now? And if so you must be able to give us some indication of whether they’re being designed, balanced, tested and prep’d for release.

The phrase “we want to…” basically comes across as “we’ve not done anything on this yet”… and as a player, that’s really very disappointing.

Nothing is confirmed until it’s pretty much done. Plans change all the time and if you make promises and can’t fulfill them, then well, we’ve all seen what happens on the forums then

Warriors still generally have more DPS when you factor in 100B + whirlwind + might spam + fury through banners. You can still factor in might on stealth, however that requires traits located elsewhere other than the “glass” trait lines.

Regardless conjure eles w/ might still have the most DPS

Personal favorite is a tanky distraction with a glassy thief who can strike while the tanky is distracted.

Guardians, D/D eles work well. Guardians tend to be more tanky and offer good support (shadow refuge + tome of courage = epic) but D/D eles have more DPS and mobility.

IF it’s a 1v1 stealth stomp isn’t going to matter in most situations. You are dead and if the thief is low HP he would range you down.

IF it’s a 1vX then it’s an easy kill. A stealth stomp usually means he right over your body using the stop animation. He’s invisible, but he’s still there. Melee attacks still hit him.

If it were up to me I’d remove down state in general. The whole idea is stupid and only helps people who outnumber you already. If it’s a 1Vx it’s already hard enough to down someone. Any form of stomp outside of invulnerability stomp/tele stomp = certain death against decent players

He’s asking if you get the 50% speed buff out of combat.

To OP: You don’t as there’s a hard cap at 33%. You’ll get swiftness but not 50%

Sunflowers.1729:

For the last time, stop telling people to stand in the Black Powder.

Not only do you blind yourself, I will just Backstab you.

Doomdesire.9365:

. After doing that I’ve yet to see more than 2-3 people who still complained about thieves once they’ve learned the class inside out.

Guess I’m one of these people. Got one to 80 and WvWed a lot, and still think they are OP. But whatever, my Thief is lv 80 so it doesn’t matter.

Because walking around like a kitten is going to make a difference. A simple 3+1 combo = instant backstab. OR the thief, having 9s of stealth, is just going to walk up to you. There is no difference except you sacrifice getting blinded for a rather large HP gain by the thief. I’d much rather prevent the thief from healing 2K more HP in stealth. I’ve lost to maybe 1 D/P thief in a duel. I think I know how to fight them.

I highly recommend you level a thief to 80 to learn the mechanics on which it plays on. After doing that I’ve yet to see more than 2-3 people who still complained about thieves once they’ve learned the class inside out. This also goes for other classes. I leveled a guardian originally for this, and I find myself playing guardian much more than my thief (although my thief wins roaming, hands down) and I’m in the process of leveling a d/d ele for this purpose.

As for your question itself, we need to know

What setup he was using (was it dagger/pistol? dagger/dagger?) as well as the build you are using (full zerker? Tanky? Staff? D/D?)

Some tips to get you started

Stand in the blind fields if he runs Dagger/Pistol. The blind fields are the smokey red circles he places. He gets his perma stealth through the use of a combo in which he heartseekers (leap) through a smoke field which grants stealth. He can leap through this smoke field ~3 times giving him a total of 9s stealth. You can limit his stealth by simply standing in the smoke field, because he will not be able to heartseeker(leap) through it to complete the combo, otherwise he will hit you with a heartseeker and get revealed. However I would only attempt this at the start of the fight where you have enough HP to survive a backstab.

Keep in mind that only works IF you are decently tanky. All classes and builds should be decently tanky to survive all insta gank builds. If you are running full zerker, especially on an elementalist, I highly suggest you switch to a tankier build.

Kathy K.6812:

Goes to show Blackgate is about quality over quantity…

You’re welcome to 1v1 me if you think that’s true

Knowing you, you’d probably decline because you’re afraid of getting wrecked.

The only thing I really thought in this video that was game breaking was last refuge and how it totally screwed you over xD

BG out of all people complaining…rofl. JQ has valid complaints, but when BG complains about balance it just becomes laughable considering how much your server is stacked in SEA/OCEANIC, especially right after you recruit XF. Hell outside of SoR your NA would completely run anything over on any server with the amount of guilds you have. It’s almost as funny as the time BG QQ’d about SoR getting IRON after a week of BG ticking at 450+ EU timezone.

fade.8603:

Doomdesire.9365:

I don’t think BG guilds GvG. When we asked the responses were always something along the lines of “we strictly ptfo (play the effing objective)”

with the exception of [Pro] The Provoked. Much respect to Joker.

As for JQ guilds I know vH, Agg, HzH, RG are willing to GvG

SoR guilds I know TW and Choo will never turn one down. FEAR would probably be willing too as they’ve done it before in that TW/FEAR vs Waha GvG and HighLine has also showed a small interest I think. IRON is also open to GvG if your guild is active during that timeslot

We should respect each and every guild that plays in WvW fairly (not resorting to cheats) regardless if they GvG or not.

No disrespect intended. If that’s there thing then that’s there thing.

I too was also disappointed. I settled for Vassars Band/Relena (TVC with a tad of precision) but I won’t go any further. I still want power in my build so I’m waiting for Anet to introduce Carrion Ascended

I don’t think BG guilds GvG. When we asked the responses were always something along the lines of “we strictly ptfo (play the effing objective)”

with the exception of [Pro] The Provoked. Much respect to Joker.

As for JQ guilds I know vH, Agg, HzH, RG are willing to GvG

SoR guilds I know TW and Choo will never turn one down. FEAR would probably be willing too as they’ve done it before in that TW/FEAR vs Waha GvG and HighLine has also showed a small interest I think. IRON is also open to GvG if your guild is active during that timeslot

Evalana.5480:

Mighty Assasin.3816:

Does BT ever run without the whole map on their tag?

We can’t help it that people like to follow us. We just appreciate that they really are very competent, and great at following!

Would you prefer that we act like total jerks to our militia and push them away? Causing interserver drama?

The same could be said for both JQ and SoR as well, but let’s not point any fingers ♥

Why not split up into two groups? I still remember when EMP and Choo were both HUGE however they split up because running full map zergs got boring after completely steamrolling everything by pressing 1

GivaBack.9328:

BG guys who are coming out to post. hey, please be more classy. Just because we are winning doesn’t mean we should disregard civility.

- BG citizen

Yes, all SoR folks, please remember to remain classy. Yes we did lose this week, however it’s okay. BG has been known to win random weeks of T1.

To RG: Blast getting kitten d by you. See in you in camelot!

To JQ: Don’t stop fighting! You guys may take 2nd!

hammer.9721:

FalseFlag.8793:

They must have did something to necros in that patch.

and yet most people will still run builds with no condition removal.I for one welcome our new overlords and may even join them on my retired asura necro.

Kinda weird how Anet buffed them. IMO they still aren’t very effective in the roaming sense but they’re even more powerful in zergs. But that’s just my opinion

MagiKarp.8201:

Because winning fights doesn’t = ppt? Confused.

Usually it’s coverage. Obviously nothing magical happened that led BG to win every fight overnight, however MERC and it looks like HB to an extent pulled alot of overtime.

Let’s not go back to that

“We win =skill
we lost = coverage” ideology

PredatoR.5247:

lost respect for BT, interfering / disrupting / crashing a GvG…

They do that all the time. We’re used to it by now. They like interrupting GvGs but they don’t like GvGing itself. Probably because numbers aren’t an advantage in a GvG.

If anyone wants to duel send me a tell! I’m on right now!!111111

Honestly they just need to remove the scoreboard entirely. There’s really no point in it. It makes servers unstable, causes kitten wars on the forums, and makes it to the point where some people are just playing for the points, not the fights so they can show off how big their kitten is on the forums. Nothing benefits from the scoreboard. They should have left it out in the first place so people will play wvw for the fights. That’s what I think would be the ultimate solution.

…looks amazing. Please tell me we will be able to get our grubby hands on one? :o

Retal is pretty broken when you run a clerics/ptv w/ soldier runes shout guardian.

Engis, thieves got totally wrecked by my guardian when they run pistols/grenades ._.

They should just convert it into a full condition spec if they aren’t going to buff it. One way or the other.

Rideable horses that functions just like the broom

Good GvG with Red Guard. I think we would describe it as a great “learning experience”

^_^

The condition isn’t even worth it. 75%-150% damage of a bleed for the cost of a utility? Who would run that? One death blossom > scale venom. The condition is totally overrated, and unless it is available in massive amounts (such as confusion mesmers, p/d thieves, burn/confusion/poison engis) then it will be a complete flop. Nobody is going to sacrifice a utility for 1-2 stacks of torment.