Guild Wars 2

UmbraNoctis.1907:

After 50 games this season i had one single game, where condition dmg taken was higher ( ~ 50%) than direkt dmg taken – enemy team had 3 necros, 1 warrior and 1 thief – my team won btw, and i didn’t die the whole match. One game, where direkt and condi dmg taken was about even. 48 games where direkt dmg taken was significantly higher. Often 3-4x or even more.

I really wonder, what you are doing, to only die to conditions …

I don’t think you can use that as a proof. I mean if I die 2 times in a row from condition bombs I have lost 30-40k damage, but if I fight a power build and manage to heal myself over and over again I don’t die but the damage I have received is way over 30-40k damage. Understand what I mean? It could may as well prove the contrary as if you survive longer by getting hit by pure power but die faster with condition damage.

trunks.5249:

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

I don’t think you can learn or be a pro-league player by playing SoloQ, I think you need to find a team to play with and find a better team after that and then find a better team that suits your playrating and then Maby you are in pro-league.

i quit ranked today so it doesn’t matter this post did tons of damage people afking,d/cing when they see me and that crap doesn’t do anyone else in the team any good . or just flat out talk trash the full match whether we are doing good or not yeah i brought it on myself by making posts anyways good luck in ranked

I find it sad, usually I do not bother with I quit posts but seeing you try so much makes it so sad. I do hope you change your mind and maby take up to my advice and find a team to play with instead of soloQ. A team who want to advance and help each other with usefull tips and strategies and good builds.

Until then, good luck in your next game.

I don’t think you can learn or be a pro-league player by playing SoloQ, I think you need to find a team to play with and find a better team after that and then find a better team that suits your playrating and then Maby you are in pro-league.

Eater of Peeps.9062:

My friends’ list is now empty. Everyone I had on my list were great players – 2 pros, many from best guilds, many lifelong gamers w/ 20+ yrs of exp, and playing gw1 &2 since betas. They’ve all left. All of them. They hated the mess in spvp. I’ve stuck it out, but think its headed that way for me now as well. Not on your watch? KK come help me out of mmr hell, which still persists all over again in seas 3, esp since mmr was not reset.

I think he was trying to be funny trying to indicate he is playing another game with the title… Overwatch.

Conditions wouldn’t be this hated if:
- conditions was effected by toughness.
- conditions was effected by protection.
- cleanses cleansed damaging conditions first starting with the one with most dps.
- after cleansing you have 1-2 second(s) immunity to cleansed condition(s).

While I think the top two is very needed.

In my opinion, I would rather go 1 2 2. That is 1 home, 2 mid and 2 far, as when fighting a team of PUGs they usually go 1 4 0 so your extra person far is usually not needed. I would rather have 2 contesting mid and keep it from getting captured and when you have both close and far you can keep preassure on mid by having the second player from far going back and forth between far and mid.

1. I have ever played since headstart and my friend list had filled up and then got empty and then filled up again to end empty. That’s how games works for some, play the new hype than leave or in some cases play, find a new game find it boring go back again then find a new game and so on. It’s like an ongoing wheel.

2. Matchmaking is alot different this time, not many has gotten to diamond yet so there are longer waiting times.

3. PVP as an esport may be going bad. I dunno, I do not count to twich numbers at cast hours as I am busy every Monday so I always watch the recorded casts. I don’t know how it is for others but I have stopped watching regular TV as I don’t have the time to follow shows at set hours, I am using Netflix and other streaming services instead. I think that younger people have more time to watch the shows at set hours and thus many more popular games has more viewers.

cakemonkey.6347:

When using my engi scrapper against a thief it’s more like this:

Mash a bunch of buttons – hit F to finish.

Would be with pretty much every power class. Either the thief is bad or you are lucky. As I said before, a well timed strike can down a thief in one or two hits.

On my Scrapper, One thief is like fighting a fly IRL. It is hard to hit but all it does is annoy you, a well timed strike and you win flawlessly. Two thiefs on the other hand is tricky. But I wouldn’t complain about thiefs when I play Scrapper. And about Elixir B, is it not used in the pro-leagues? Anyway I use it and it is a very important skill to my marauder scrapper as it together with Bulwark gyro and trait gives me enough defence to not be needing to have toughness. It also gives me condition removals, one per skill, that’s two with toolbelt skill, also it gives me stab for a stomp and retaliation and fury when my hidden flask is on cd.

But I do not agree with either OP or Alchemyst, neither Scrapper or thief are like that. Just time your strikes against a thief and figure out their movement pattern. And as for engi, not all use elixir s trait and actually atleast in my case it kills me move than it saves me due to the ammount condition application so I never use it. With perfectly weighted you still have to successfully evade to get stab and engies can’t evade that much, there are classes with better auto proc stab. Other stab can come from elixir X but that is an elite and transforms you. And then there is final Salvo, if you have problems killing an Engie with this trait I think you have to get better. Adaptive armor is the go for a durable engi.

My opinion.

I think this season is one of the best. Sure I do not climb the decisions faster but not slower this season and most classes are viable now. Matches are being more balanced. Condition damage and sustain at the same time is a little over the top but in my opinion, last seasons where worse.

I have both win and loss matches that has been total blowouts at the start. These matches are the ones you said ‘whatte, what just happened?’ But they do happen, if you are to give up you will never experience these matches, atleast not the ones favoring you.

I have had a match where we had a player DC’d at the start, but we fought anyway, shortly after he come back and we had a lead, he dc’d again and we was loosing again. He never came back but I dunno what we did right, I guess opposing team got overconfident but we won the match.

Another time we started a game and did a realy bad start and one player got angry and left at the start saying ‘you are noobs all of you!’ We didn’t win the match but the score was 480-ish when opposing team won. Not bad for a 4vs5 match. You might think you lost but the game is not over until it is over.

If you are going far in a soloQ you better communicate with your team and have one following you far. Best is if one has sustain and the other does damage so you can take far fast before it gets support or you will end up fighting far forever. When far is capped have the one with less sustain go and help the other points while the one with sustain stays and guards. What annoys me the most is when you need to cap but people rather stay of point and fight or someone fights a tanky class and can’t beat it at a cap that isn’t owned by you.

drcraig.9403:

gin.7158:

6 condi clear not OP. Yeah right….

That’s a bug, get over it.

Until it’s fixed I think it is hard to get over :P

VoidNard.7206:

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

VoidNard.7206:

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

So, how much should we bet that you will need the Legion expac to be able to be competative in PvP. So in short, there will be something like Elite specs there too.

I would be supriced if Blizzard let PvPers only need core game to be competative.

You have obviously never played wow before. The thing is with WoW, you need the expac altogether to even play the new content. And the abilities or “elite spec” (which is nonexistent) are integrated into the core abilities. The only specialization there is is to chose from, is class you want to play.

I have played WoW. Before BC and I have never turned to look back and I do not care.
I dunno if I will see, I may hear about it but as we say ‘We will see who is right and who is wrong’ as I have understood previous expansions and PvP in that foul game you had to level to the next max level and then get to do alot of PvE stuff to get some gear together (Wich you need the latest expac to do) so you could get competative. No? Well as I said I dunno, this is GW2 forum I have no obligation to know anything about a crappy game that majority of the playerbase is below 15.
Anyhow, when armor and level is out of the question then at Blizzards office I think they are going ‘So how do we get the pure PvPers to buy the expansion now?’ Well I don’t know but they will probably figure something out, becouse in the end a company like Blizzard want’s to grow.

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VoidNard.7206:

Everybody criticizes WoW but what about the things in Gw2 like the condition problem i discussed. Saying that I thought WoW had better pvp was the point. Am I the only one who sees the things?

Umm oh yea!? Weird, this is GW2 forum not Blizzards forum. If that game is so much better, pay your sub and head over there. Yes, you are one of very few here that does see that as we all have different tastes and since this is GW2 forum, most of us probably likes GW2 pvp better (Doesn’t have to mean they hate WoW as much as I do though).

Man i stopped reading at: stopped playing after BC. lol Look, don’t criticize or talk about WoW or any other game if you haven’t played them recently. And can we talk about the Gw2 problems…. man. Like everything else is relevant and the only thing people bothered to read was the title. People get triggered so easy hahaha.

I even said before

You know, GW2 got it’s problems yes. But you are in a GW2 forum raising WoWs next expansion to the skies even before you have tried it. It is atleast compareble to my arguments. As long as you need PvE armor and levels to PvP in WoW I know I don’t like it, played many MMOs that’s like that. So with the new expac for WoW, that is an improvement, but I am saying. Don’t get your hopes up.

VoidNard.7206:

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

So, how much should we bet that you will need the Legion expac to be able to be competative in PvP. So in short, there will be something like Elite specs there too.

I would be supriced if Blizzard let PvPers only need core game to be competative.

You have obviously never played wow before. The thing is with WoW, you need the expac altogether to even play the new content. And the abilities or “elite spec” (which is nonexistent) are integrated into the core abilities. The only specialization there is is to chose from, is class you want to play.

I have played WoW. Before BC and I have never turned to look back and I do not care.
I dunno if I will see, I may hear about it but as we say ‘We will see who is right and who is wrong’ as I have understood previous expansions and PvP in that foul game you had to level to the next max level and then get to do alot of PvE stuff to get some gear together (Wich you need the latest expac to do) so you could get competative. No? Well as I said I dunno, this is GW2 forum I have no obligation to know anything about a crappy game that majority of the playerbase is below 15.
Anyhow, when armor and level is out of the question then at Blizzards office I think they are going ‘So how do we get the pure PvPers to buy the expansion now?’ Well I don’t know but they will probably figure something out, becouse in the end a company like Blizzard want’s to grow.

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VoidNard.7206:

Everybody criticizes WoW but what about the things in Gw2 like the condition problem i discussed. Saying that I thought WoW had better pvp was the point. Am I the only one who sees the things?

Umm oh yea!? Weird, this is GW2 forum not Blizzards forum. If that game is so much better, pay your sub and head over there. Yes, you are one of very few here that does see that as we all have different tastes and since this is GW2 forum, most of us probably likes GW2 pvp better (Doesn’t have to mean they hate WoW as much as I do though).

So, how much should we bet that you will need the Legion expac to be able to be competative in PvP. So in short, there will be something like Elite specs there too.

I would be supriced if Blizzard let PvPers only need core game to be competative.

I think the install problem has to do with the forced to use 64bit gw2 now. I got it when it was in beta, I then had my gw2 on d: but I just run the GW2 64 bit launcher as soon as I downloaded it and then it started installing everything a new. So my bet is that the game puts the GW2 64 bit .exe somewhere else than your original location of Gw2. Not sure. Just guessing.

Wow, I thought I had it rough. Well I dunno… Maby i will get hated for this but personally I would scrap that healing turret and slickshoes. And go with healing gyro and elixir B instead. Dunno about your traits but aim for more damage and stability. Toughness is not so much needed as condi is not affected by toughness. I didn’t use your build before engi nerf but when I changed to a marauder build with defence from boons trait and all the boons, my matches are going better.

Is it just me but I have been having alot of delays on my skills recently. Skills are blinking and a few seconds later when enemy is too far away my skills activate. Sometimes they don’t even activate so I gave to press them again.

And also I have noticed that at matchstart I have started getting teleported back to start point even if I am behind the gate.

Bossun.2046:

Last season people would talk smack to warriors whenever they got paired up with them. If the team lost, it was the Warriors fault… If they downed, it was the Warriors fault.

I got cussed plenty of times even though people would literally flee from me. Now that warriors got a LITTLE buff, all hell breaks loose and they want anet to nerf them…

Warriors aren’t OP, plenty ways to beat them. People just need to get good. Us warrior mains had to in previous seasons to stay relevant. Just get good and stop complaining.

Well it is wierd, the warrior seemed to be in a pretty good spot from the beginning, they just needed a small buff to get all the good stuff going if you get what I mean? Warrior atm is like a truck, if you don’t see it coming you are dead, like a thief without stealth. A few days ago I was really mad at how silly warriors had become again, why is it that they always get a one-shot button? But now just as it was with rampage warriors, one you learned how to handle it, they are quite easy.

I think warriors is on par with Guardians, Dragonhunters hit less hard than Berserkers but they do survive longer. If you don’t know how to handle them, you will die in a few seconds.

Vorenu.2638:

feels the same to me, 70% of the time the other team has a 2man premade and full pug on my side…

Last season I though that you could never get only solos against anyone in a team, not duo, not tripple or more… As soon as you duo you will only end up fighting against another team. So if you solo you could end up in a group with a team of 2-3 o 4 players against a group with 2-3-4 or 5 players in a team.

How come that we can now be solos against 4 players in a team, that is stupid. I think Anets machmaking is still bonkers.

queue into ESL?

I think most of the time it is about how lucky you are with the MMR.

Play with your Staff ele and find out, if you die alot and can’t manage to be an asset for your team, maby then you have to think of changing. None of us can decide how good you are as a staff ele. I have seen realy good staff eles even though it isn’t the top notch builds.

Well here is my latest scores…

Matchmaking is perfect… Not :P I don’t think it is very different to last season, It was almost the same. Lot’s of losses but a few wins and then suddenly I have a long winning streak.

I almost got a 50/50 now and I won’t realy complain becouse this way I can atleast advance to Ruby but it aint fun loosing 3-4 matches in a row becouse the game wants you too.

Did 3 matches after this picture and had a loss win loss, the two losses was stronghold matches where I was solo with a 4 and a 3 man guilds with low Divisions (like they where playing with rookie friends or something).

Edit: And about the lag, I had that too recently… It could be at Anets end becouse my internet seems fine and I am on a 100/10 fibre with no Wi-fi.

Forum bug…

(Yup yup, thats what it is.)

Warriors hit like a truck and gives you conditions…

But I can dodge a warriors attack, I can block warriors attack, their tells is quite obvious, I can evade warriors attacks, I can reflect their projectiles and I can keep my distance from warriors.

Many say Necro is bad but for me, necro and Rev are still my necro. Warriors keep me on high alert but necros are more like ‘I hope that necro player isn’t lucky spamming his AoEs’

R O C.6574:

Please for the love of God can you people stop acting like the sky is falling every second of the guildwars day. I don’t want to say L2P, but maybe your losing because your doing it wrong. I know it’s hard to admit you have a problem, but seriously if you have big losing streaks this season i think it’s your mouse/key skills. Or maybe you should think about going condi…

Remember that each game you play you are not alone, if I am bad we shouldn’t loose 120 to 500 every match. The point is with the matchmaker to make more even matches but does that happen? Well not for me, am I bad? No not that bad. Am I good? No not that good, but I know the matches I play I am paired with players who actually are worse than me.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

As usuall I do beleave in Anet that they will do good, now it is up to the players and not keep the grudge from HoT.

I don’t know about keeping a grudge but if a company takes my money then doesn’t give me what I paid for then I’m most definitely going to remember that the next time they ask for my money. I’ll consider any promised advertisements for things that will be added later as “vaporpromises” and not to be relied on.

Well I can understand that and I where one who felt cheated like that I would not buy atleast a pre -order, I would rather wait. That’s different to what I meant. I meant I hope people are so angry that they will not even consider looking at Anets titles anymore.

darkace.8925:

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

As usuall I do beleave in Anet that they will do good, now it is up to the players and not keep the grudge from HoT.

Both your trust and your blame seem to be misplaced. After Heart of Thorns turned out to be lackluster – by ArenaNet’s own admission – perhaps you shouldn’t be so quick to place your faith in them. And to suggest that the customers – whose trust was just violated – should be so quick to forgive and forget that violation rather than approach the next expansion with a skeptical eye is just naive.

Well just as I said, we are all different and some of us have a reason to hate GW2 enough now to not even consider buying the second expansion. For mine and Anets sake I hope there are not lots people who thinks like you.

I am sorry Anet, but this isn’t fun anymore… a 50/50 I could accept but this.

And now I begin to doubt my skills as my team usually ended up fighting 4vs2 or 3 at home point almost every match. Some people does not deserve to be in Sapphire division, it feals like the have “cheated” their way there in some way.

I am not good iether but some players are acting like beginners.

I am wondering, is it the same situation no matter what division you are in? There are some who have only good even matches and some who have only blowout maches. I myself are playing at sapphire division and 90% of my matches have been blowout matches (Me mostly on the losing team I may add).

Or just make toughness and protection effect conditions too.

Be happy for that. My 4 matches before work was loss loss win loss. Last match was the only losing match my team got over 400 points.

The funny thing is that when I started I played with and against other sapphire players, but I have lost so much now that the two recent Matches I was the only sapphire, the rest was emerald or less.

I mean darn I am bad! I think sPvP is not my thing anymore… I had a hard time getting to diamond last season (never thought I would) and now I have one pip in sapphire after like 8-10 matches.

Havent you all seen the posts. They say direct damage is worse becouse once you get hit you take all the damage at once. With condition damage you can dodge/block/evade it, you can cleance it and you can outheal it. We who complain about condition damage right now just have to L2P.

MethaneGas.8357:

^the same can be said about power builds. Glass revenant is almost a bunker, druid is a tank with high burst cuz #HoT pets, pre-nerf scrapper was a tank with high damage, etc….

And what condi builds are there? Reaper, Mesmer and Warrior. Biggest issue out of those is Mesmer but they were carried by Moa because Moa disables everything. And with Mercenary removal… everything will be jumbled.

Hmm… Not 100% right, atleast in my opinion. I played and still play Power engineer and yes they where OP and I agree that there is way to much sustain or atleast blocks, evade and invuln skills in the game now so that staying alive as a glass build is pretty easy but on the other hand it is the same for almost every class now. For a glass build you are pretty dead as soon as your blocks, evades and invulns are gone but as a, let’s say mercenary rune user you have a good amount of def and HP and your attacks do pretty good direct damage and you do massive condition damage and on top of this you still have all the blocks, evades and invulns.

I play my Scrapper with Paladin rune, the damage I do is nothing compaired to the condition builds, even if someone cleanses the conditions the damage has already been made. If I should come close to the damage of most condition builds atm I need to go Berserker, assasin or anything with Pow, prec and Ferocity. There are some classes with traits with high crit chances so you could make it with only power and ferocity but still I can’t go with both thoughness and vit and do massive damage. oh yea and Conditions are not affected by armor, thougness and iether so what do I need to do to kille condition classes? Use conditions to get through their ammount of protections and thougness.

As I said, my opinion and no way near facts.

HazyDaisy.4107:

Leon de Damasco.8105:

even you talked about xxx too just few post before"

Check screen names mate, prior to this post I made 2 posts. 1 was a rant, the other a response to you.

If you want to respond to someone to not confuse other readers maby you should quote that poster?
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If not a button to make minions passive, a button to kill them all would be nice, not blast them only so that they burry themselves again. Go back to the dead without a fuzz.

I do not main Necro but there are times when you have to more or less retrait just to be able to kill some bosses/enemies becouse attacks heal them or gives them stacks that will kill you if high enough. It would be nice that you could go all out attack with your minions and when the “dont attack” moment comes you kill all your minions and when you can attack again maby minions are off cooldown so you can start over.

So with all these threads about hard content you had to go make another? OK.

I haven’t even done the half of the things that you have and the difficulty is perfect, the maps are awesome except TD that is a little too much. There is no content in HoT that has the extreme zerg mentality that is in Core GW2, most events in HoT can be done solo or atleast duo but still alot require a team of 4-8 players per event. Meta events require more but isn’t just about zerging , it is about teamwork and to know what to do.

If you think HoT is all about zerg then what is the meta events in Core maps?

Too me making the game more casual friendly will make the game so easy so even braindead afk farmers can solo the whole content and players saying I am and idiot for choosing to play with soldier stats instead of zerker. No thank you, please no more threads about this and please don’t nerf HoT anymore.

sorudo.9054:

Azrexx.5469:

Thaddeus.4891:

Dante.1508:

I have Exotic gears and some green jewelry and well i just die in 2 to 3 hits from those frog things..

You have the almost exact same defense in full ascended or full exotic since most experienced players used glass canons gear. The difference is litterally +60 armor. That’s like less than 2% less incoming damage when you have an ascended armor vs a exotic armor. That’s nothing. If you die in 2/3 hits from those frogs, then we all gonna get killed in 2/3 hits too and our gear won’t change anything about that.

And why the hell do you play HoT with green jewellery? I mean it take like 1 or 2 hours for a complete noob to get exotic or at least rare jewellery. Do you even try to play the game?

On top of that, the level 80 boost gives you a full set of exotics, including exotic jewellery right?

unless something changed, all of them are soul bound and you can’t buy another booster….
and saying “a complete noob can…” stuff just makes me hate you, that’s the exact kind of elitism i hate the most together with “that’s easy to do solo” and “X takes no time at all” while not taking in account with personal situations….

Well a complete noob can actually get ascended amulet and accessories I think, the only thing one have to do is to log in each day and collect laurels. Sooner or later you have enough to buy the ascended trinkets, only rings need globs (I may have mixed them but anyway). Also ascended trinkets are account bound.

Now getting exotic accessories isn’t that hard either, if you managed to play core game until HoT you should have enough gold to buy exotic stuff.

Anyway, some of my characters have full green armor in HoT, it is hard but I can still manage to solo enough to get through story.

Reh.5986:

Mostly a l2p, Mesmer, confusion, burn thing. Resistance, cleanse, blocks, evades can mitigate up to 100% of condi damage. What I get from it is people just don’t want to screw with the extra complexity of learning to deal with condis.

Power builds get more per button push unless the target likes to face tank stuff or can’t manage condi pressure. Some condi stuff could use tuning for sure. Passive proc condis on hit (perplexity runes) among other things.

Still the point is not that conditions can do damage, atleast not my point but it is that a condi build can be very tanky at the same time as being a very viable damage dealer.

What bugs me the most isn’t the amount of conditions someone can give. It’s that that many builds can be very tanky and do massive damage.

I went up against a ranger build one or two days ago where he applied around 20 bleeding and poison (He was pretty good att skill rotation and I was unprepared) not only did I get these two condition but I got everything else too, I manage to remove 2 conditions root and cripple and since it was a ranger I managed to dodge once and then I got rooted and crippled again, guess what conditions I removed? Yea, not long after the i was laying on the ground bleeding and puking to death while the ranger carefully pewpewed me from afar.

I agree with OP, these are atleast reasons to why I hate conditions and it is boring and requires little skills do good with most condition builds.

battledrone.8315:

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

battledrone.8315:

Ryou.2398:

battledrone.8315:

Ryou.2398:

ghostfire.2630:

I love playing GW2 core. Its a masterpiece in many ways.

In HOT my typical experience is:
1) need mastery and hero points
2) find some on map i dont have yet
3) get killed on way to new spot
(Or killled when i get there)

I feel like a big chicken as i dash and run away from mobs
Only to get swarmed and eaten by a bunch of baby raptors.

What am i doing wrong? Does anybody find this fun?

Any advice would be appreciated as id like to enjoy hot.

Thanks
Gf

So you dont like progression? Im sorry but it doesnt sound like rpgs are your cup of tea, I love those aspects of the game. Im only talking about your concern masteries and exploration.

a normal RPG would give the player the tools , to play the content
earning the rights, to play the content, is simply content stretching
thats a bad thing

How do you not have the tools? He said he doesnt like the masteries and sense of unlocking therefore, that tells they dont like a sense of progression which what is an rpg, you have the lfg tool, just because you cannot solo everything doesnt mean you dont have the tools:)

Im not trying to be rude its just how this sounds to me.

of course i like progression, but in this case, the annoyance is simply too much , to get the progression
much of the map is simply unavailable, unless you have all the relevant masteries
and, you can only GET those masteries, by playing on those maps
this is bad design, and the first nerf showed us how it was received by the majority of players
later they will nerf it even more, but it wont help much
imagine the waiters at a restaurant started hiding the chairs, and then told you to
“sit down and enjoy your meal”
i pay for entertainment..not annoyance

Actually, these maps are big and most events are doable without masteries in like VB, while exploring the map and doing Events and event chains while exploring will give enough EXP to continue to the places you can’t reach. Unless you run around avoid events and enemies you should not have been able to explore the map that you can explore without masteries without getting enough masteries to get to note places. Now the tricky part is to choose what mastery you want to learn. If you wanna max out gliding before anything else then you are doing it very wrong.

and thats the problem, i really hate events, so i dont do them
like i said, i like progression, but not for any price
BTW , if players really like some content, they will do it, regardless of the reward
much of the later content is purely reward based= its BAD content
proof? try nerfing the rewards, and see how many players will stay

I don’t really understand, events is a big part of the game it is GW2 answer to other MMO’s quests. I never said that you should repeat the event but to follow the events, enjoy the story of them, enjoy the awesome scenery of the jungle and all in all play the game. If you don’t like event and just skip every event and skip every enemy… what is there left to do in the game PvE?

I myself can’t stand grinding or farming so I only do the stuff I find enjoyment in doing so yes, I do not care about rewards that much, I did events for the story before the update where events now give better rewards, if I ever find content I do not like I will rarely do it, like I haven’t played www, fractals or raids in a good while and raid I have only played about 2-3 times.

Kelly.7019:

Who necro’d the 6 month old post. Are we really still talking about this? Time to close this thread down and not allow any more comments, make a new thread jeezz.

Haven’t this post been alive all this time?

I think there are about 3-4 posts about this that haven’t even been merged.

battledrone.8315:

Ryou.2398:

battledrone.8315:

Ryou.2398:

ghostfire.2630:

I love playing GW2 core. Its a masterpiece in many ways.

In HOT my typical experience is:
1) need mastery and hero points
2) find some on map i dont have yet
3) get killed on way to new spot
(Or killled when i get there)

I feel like a big chicken as i dash and run away from mobs
Only to get swarmed and eaten by a bunch of baby raptors.

What am i doing wrong? Does anybody find this fun?

Any advice would be appreciated as id like to enjoy hot.

Thanks
Gf

So you dont like progression? Im sorry but it doesnt sound like rpgs are your cup of tea, I love those aspects of the game. Im only talking about your concern masteries and exploration.

a normal RPG would give the player the tools , to play the content
earning the rights, to play the content, is simply content stretching
thats a bad thing

How do you not have the tools? He said he doesnt like the masteries and sense of unlocking therefore, that tells they dont like a sense of progression which what is an rpg, you have the lfg tool, just because you cannot solo everything doesnt mean you dont have the tools:)

Im not trying to be rude its just how this sounds to me.

of course i like progression, but in this case, the annoyance is simply too much , to get the progression
much of the map is simply unavailable, unless you have all the relevant masteries
and, you can only GET those masteries, by playing on those maps
this is bad design, and the first nerf showed us how it was received by the majority of players
later they will nerf it even more, but it wont help much
imagine the waiters at a restaurant started hiding the chairs, and then told you to
“sit down and enjoy your meal”
i pay for entertainment..not annoyance

Actually, these maps are big and most events are doable without masteries in like VB, while exploring the map and doing Events and event chains while exploring will give enough EXP to continue to the places you can’t reach. Unless you run around avoid events and enemies you should not have been able to explore the map that you can explore without masteries without getting enough masteries to get to note places. Now the tricky part is to choose what mastery you want to learn. If you wanna max out gliding before anything else then you are doing it very wrong.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

^But, did ArenaNet make those statements, or was it NCSoft? Are the lessons learned (no such word as learnt) the same for publishers as they are for developers? Does ArenaNet even agree with the statements made by NCSoft?

Questions to mull over, perhaps?

I don’t think Anet wrote that, it is more NCsoft’s notations. Anet sind it and NCsoft noted it like ‘oh it better be good’.

Stigas.9378:

I lost more respect for the commentators who just moved on. Yeah, solid gold journalism there.

Well they are not journalists. Argi started talking about another game and didn’t give an actual interview about the actual game instead he had to complain to two commentators who have no way of even discussing that. Argi was either just bummed or very drunk because he also behaved very childish or like a teenager who think he is cool and the best in the world. He starts his interview with saying ‘have you tasted this bear?’ I mean as a commentator on a tight schedule I wouldn’t want to waste time on a kid who is so salty so he gets drunk during a game that many of us find serious.

Now I didn’t cheer for either CC or vM and I never cared for Argi, his name was nonexistent too me, so good work getting more umm… popular.

I don’t know if GW2 e sports is dying or not, I know that I like to watch it and I do hope it continues. What I hope for in the future though is that different classes and build will be more viable, not fun to see the same classes clash all the time.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

The performance of HoT was not as expected. We learnt the lesson.

This part is what I found most intriguing. What lesson did they learn?

Thinks that comes up in my head.

- Not too hard content.
- Less content to farm/grind.
- Not too much vertical content where usage of spacebar is needed.
- Not to promice more than they can deliver at release.
- Not to charge as much as a new full game.
- Not to create content for WvW players, they will hate it anyway.
- Putting more focus on ammount of content instead of details.

This has nothing to do what I like or not, this is something that has been complaints about in the forums.

I think that with the new mastery system in place, they wont have to spand as much time and manpower to finalize that mechanic and can aim for more content in next expansion. As usuall I do beleave in Anet that they will do good, now it is up to the players and not keep the grudge from HoT.

Ashen.2907:

Edgar, I have seen at least one game that does much of that. Some of it better than GW2. Different genre though. Superheroes rather than Fantasy.

Oh no! That’s to bad well I guess GW2 is a generic Wow clone then.

Well to me GW2 is a very good, the story GW, the world is GW and the music is very GW until LS and HoT and in my opinion the new composers are keeping the GW feeling alive, they are very good, just because they don’t have a famous name doesn’t mean they can do great music.

Many skills and movements are exactly like they are in GW1, the smooth and perfect perfect feeling when moving in the game is exactly like GW1, many enemies are the same as in GW1.
When it all comes together it gives me a perfect feeling of a sequel.

And about the being just like any other MMO, that is so darn untrue, it is not the same mechanic as GW1 but it is far from any other generic MMO. I have had many friends and guild mates leaving the game because it is not like wow or other MMOs.

So now tell me is there any other MMOs out there that came before GW2 that; have such active combat, have no trading system, no sparring, no mounts, have waypoints, zones that lowers your level to not making old content absolete, gear that won’t get better for every new update/expansion, no new levels, account bound dyes that let’s you colour your gear on the fly, wardrobe system to let you change gear and outfits between over 100 variations on the fly, only able to use 10 skills during combat and not over 30 skills that fills up your UI, let’s you play the game instead of just looking at HPS meters on the UI, have a living story (that should have been updated regularly), have no stupid quests that you have to collect, do and return, have an event system that makes maps more alive and more.

General Health.9678:

mauried.5608:

Is HOT a gear based zone?
How many people are playing in HOT with green gear or less and enjoying it?

Feels like a weird question. If you are level 80 and have got to HoT you should have rare or higher gear just from your story and doing world bosses. You should have some exotics from login rewards. You should have used your login laurels to buy ascended trinkets. If you got the level 80 boost you have a full set of level 80 exotics to use on a character.

I’d be surprised if anyone downgraded the gear they’d been given at this point to run round in greens. It’s possible to avoid most fights so you could run round HoT naked if you wanted but it’s slightly mad, any splash damage would ruin your progress round the maps.

However that doesn’t mean someone isn’t doing just that and actually enjoying the sneaky stealthing or frantic running or honing their dodging skills.

So never say never, tl;dr there may be someone doing this and loving it.

Actually I am cheap and I do never get the stats I want from drops and so on. I usually get green/blue gear to try if my build works in HoT. If I have decided to continue with that stats I then buy or get the exotic gear I have stored. But playing with blue/green in HoT is possible but it is a little harder.