Guild Wars 2

Shockwave.1230:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The game already has gear in place that a Casual player can get: Exotics. If you want BiS, you need to invest time to get them. By speeding up the process for Casuals, you then must speed up the process for Hardcore players. Then we have the problem of maximizing gear all over. Hardcore players will reach the goals too quickly, and will demand more progression. Then the cycle continues, with Anet having to consider another tier.

By gating things, both Casuals and Hardcore players move at the same speed. The major difference here is the cost of having all the materials required for the BiS gear. Hardcore players will be able to farm and “grind” out wealth to have mats. Casuals have access to the same content, albeit at a slower pace.

You’re talking about what kind of carrot to give people on the stick. Give them the Guild Wars 1 model of progression. I played that game for 4k hours over it’s life and never finished the progression in that game, plus the content was compelling enough to make me want to play it with alts and there weren’t huge alt barriers like in GW2.

There’s no point in responding to certain posters. If you look into someone’s post history it’s easy to see if they are worth responding to. Some are reasonable and worth talking to some are brick walls.

You know, this is the type of thing that would be APPRECIATED in the PATCH NOTES. not soo subtle hint. Its’ really no wonder communication is one of the most talked about short falls.

Usually when only 1 or 2 ppl say something…they are not correct. It would be nice of anet to say something on the matter since it really is a a matter of mechanics vs cosmetics being temporarily available. But…alas chances are we won’t hear two peeps as per usual.

+1 +1 +1 Brilliant!

Sellable now afaik…30silver ish atm

Anyone seen an increase in them?

Absinth.6917:

Yasha.5963:

I like the new rewards system, however, I have only 8 gold after playing the game since launch because I play spvp nearly all the time. The gold cost of goods is just far too high. Just buying a 20 slot bag will bankrupt me.

Perhaps the gold cost is set at a rate that makes sense if I was starting from day 1 and a year from now I would have 500,00 glory and say 400g from spvping, (actually the gold cost still seems high even at that point), but what about the spvpers now? We can’t really buy anything even sitting on half a million glory.

Spent 500k glory today and made just over 350k gold before the market began to crash.

350g? or 350k g? Huge difference

Spockime.1364:

LOL, love these people explaining it away now. A year ago people were gung ho against this type of thing and now you have all these PVE lovers in here defending it. This is a silly system that isn’t casual or alt-friendly. Still, as evidenced by the posts above, some people are happy with it. More power to them, but my guess is the numbers will begin to drop in this game soon.

It’s not PvE lovers..it’s the usual white knight suspects.

If these are being removed from the game, why are they still being given in bl chests?

Gift discount is nice. The keys are still a shame. Don’t support bad rng practices!

Was that not in English?

How does TC let SoS put a wp in smc?

I think us forums goers would like to have a word with whoever is in charge of rewards for the entire game. They need a reality check.

Let me try this again. Do you kill it before or after it disappears? I’ve noticed that it tends to bug if you kill her too fast and before she disappears for the 1st time. Try killing her slower and let her disappear then respawn b4 killing her.

I think ya’ll would be surprised at the number of players that play hotjoin vs solo and team queue.

It bugs a lot. That’s really all I can say about it.

You must be crazy if you think the toilet troll is going to give us anything besides a large steaming pile of you know what. It’s his milieu to do so.

Btw it’s not trans “stones”…..it’s “crystals”. Transmutation stones are <lvl 80, abundant and worthless, while the crystals are about 3g each. “Yay! I get a reward I must spend 3g to use properly!”

Oh it’s a ruse!

Skady.5916:

[Agg] streaming tonight
http://www.twitch.tv/aggression_gaming

Great fights tonight!

BeerNPeanuts.4573:

That’s right, I said it!

#1: It enticed me to join in on the WvW Action (Mainly sPvP, PvE, Fractals, You know the rest of the GAME!)
#2: It enticed my Guild to join in the WvW Action
#3: Anyone who’s completed any Event/Living Story understands that ANet doesn’t give you the world. Welcome to the reward system WvWers ;0)
#4: I’d do it again regardless if my Server place 9th (again :P)

LOL @ Request For:
#1: Ascended Weapons

Props @ Request For:
#1: Special Finisher (Mainly because it’s consistent with the sPvP Rewards)

Congrats to the Season 1st Place Winners! Keep on being Smexy!

1. You didn’t know what they would be so how could they entice you?
2. They didn’t know what the rewards would be so how could they entice them?
3. Agree
4. Agree

Point being we weren’t enticed by the rewards themselves. We were enticed by speculation that something on such a scale would reward better than things of lesser scale. Going by #3, we should have known better. Overall I love this game, but wow is it ever so UNREWARDING!

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Vexander.9850:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Was just thinking how awesome it would be if it was offered on the gem store for 2k gems or something, and how angry those people who bought it for a legendary + worth of gold would be.

Hahahaha oh dear lord please anet please!!!! The forums would be a mad house, would be worse than the flame kissed debacle.

To be honest, the price of goods in the Trading Post fluctuates. I’m fine with some things getting lowered from ungodly high prices. Something that is strictly a convenience like the Permanent Hairstyle Kit, I am fine with seeing become cheaper. I’d rather Legendaries remained the big price tags on the Trading Post (though I also want to see them become Account Bound).

Okay, I’m glad you’re okay with it. I’m just wondering if someone who spent 3.3k gold would be okay with it.

I only referred to legendaries for the cost. I know that they fluctuate, I was just saying that if someone bought the hair kit they could have bought 1-2 legendaries instead, so I’m guessing they wouldn’t be all that happy.

Who cares about those who spent the 3.3k? They surely didn’t get 3.3k by playing normally. So they either farmed obsessively (contributing to inflation), played the TP (yeah, that makes me care about them…lol), bought gold, or got extremely lucky. None of which to me warrants sustaining such elevated prices.

Guardian Warrior and Mesmer…..

Consumables can replace the usefulness of thieves….looking at you harpy feathers.

Protoavis.9107:

My 5th place rewards were acceptable.

Hi liquid world experience
Oh wvw rank up
Oh Occam’s Weapon Chest

:)

Your 5th place rewards were better than my 1st place rewards by a long shot.

cesmode.4257:

They are supposed to do this. They said it’ll be available in a myriad of places. Depends how you look at it.

You get rings from fractals, amulets/accessories/rings from laurels, weapons and armor from crafting, back piece from MF, and the ‘precursor of a chance’ drop rate from a chest for weapons.

Eh, this is not what I had in mind, or any of us! Like you said, I’d like to simply log in, run some DEs, run a dungeon or two, level my alt a bit, and log off..knowing that everything I was doing was working toward that ascended piece. And guess what is the common denominator here…Karma. Karma karma karma. Make ascended gear purchasable via karma. That way you can do anything in game, in the world, dungeon or WvW, and acquire ascended gear.

This way you don’t have a materals list as long as your arm to keep track of, you are not forced out of WvW to craft if you don’t want to, you are not forced to craft period, you arenot forced to run guild missions, you are not forced to complete your daily, you are not forced or cohersed into anything. Play as you want, acquire karma from every part of the game and eventually you’ll have your gear.

Whats wrong with this, arenanet?

It would be the 1st major thing immediately unavailable to most traders and JS would never allow that.

Junkpile.7439:

Probably need to buy some gold. First game ever where i actually consider buying gold.

It’s exactly for that reason you shouldn’t buy gold. Don’t support bad things!

Hmm long term goal eh? Let’s take in consideration how long it’ll take to gear up everyone’s 5 char slots that came with the game.

Is there even enough time in the life cycle of this game to get this gear?

Wow…. ok this will be my last reply since you don’t seem to get it.

That site tells us the number of times Teq has been killed on every server. Since we know when it was introduced we can deduct how many times Teq has spawned since being updated, then we multiply that by the number of servers. After that we take map population caps into consideration to find out the percentage of players involved. It doesn’t give you a small sample, it gives you the entirety…….lol. It’s really rather basic.

I supplied all the math..(if you were willing to do something for yourself and look) in other threads on the matter, but judging by you response it looks like you want others to do everything for you.

Never ending grind is all it introduces.

coglin.1867:

I do. It means they made something that is too difficult for all the care bears to kill. Successful indeed.

Got a link to your numbers? I think your being dishonest in your representation of the populations percentage. Prove it.

Done…next time do a lil research yourself b4 calling someone dishonest

http://gw2dragons.com/dragons/leaderboard

All you had to do is look at some of the other Teq threads to find the math posted.

Oraith.1732:

Bsgapollo.5364:

lol what, no. Some people don’t have the time to play with a team due work or school. People should be rewarded the same for winning a match, regardless if it’s solo or in a team.

So people who organize and go against harder teams should be rewarded the same as people who aren’t organized and go against easier teams?

Just to point out the obvious……an unorganized team is going to have a harder time against that “easier team”, so it won’t be easier for them necessarily.

John Corpening.9847:

Hey All,

Would you keep rank acquisition the same as it is now?

If not, what would you do to improve rank acquisition?

Thanks again!

John

Make it a lil bit less dramatic. It feels sorta like the wvw (not the season) achievements….ie….once we get into latter ranks it feels like going nowhere fast

coglin.1867:

Tequatl is great, there is nothing to address. If they are not killing him on other servers, how is that Anets fault.??? I mean, you can guest to any server, so I have difficulty accept any argument that suggest “no one is doing it” .

The math has been done that it’s about 3% of the population on a given day. Considering that a lot of the same ppl do it more than once per day that 3% drops to 2% or less. If you consider 2% a success, then yeah sure.

Essence Snow.3194:

.next to nothing is more like nothing than something even though technically it is something Tbh it’s kinda insulting.

John Smith.4610:

Essence Snow.3194:

…PS increasing something like .0000001 to .00000012….

That’s a 20% change. I don’t understand your simile.

*Correction it is insulting

Maybe it’s just me, but having to buy precursors on the TP completely ruins the whole process of making a legendary. It ruins what is supposed to be a pinnacle focus of the game and imo letting that be standard practice is poor form.

PS increasing something like .0000001 to .00000012 is like telling a friend you are going to help them move and then wiping your finger across the mantle. Then when they ask you about helping, you reply “I cleaned, sheesh!”…ie…next to nothing is more like nothing than something even though technically it is something Tbh it’s kinda insulting.

I noted it b/c it is a notable difference between the two. Both have rewards to be found in game but only pvp has out of game rewards offered.

Besides PvErs are notorious for taking the path of least resistance…..ie they will not want to work for rewards rather than kill 6 bosses over and over again as long as the latter is easier/faster.

ronpierce.2760:

Essence Snow.3194:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

the message must be clear.
sPvP is the end game to rake in riches.
not PvE farming.

Yikes, talk about killing the goose that laid the golden egg……ie…not really a good idea.

You don’t want to kitten off the PvErs. They are the grease that keeps the game going.

PVErs already have riches, at least more than PVP. It wouldn’t hurt to let us have a turn, and if it attracts a few PvErs to actually work for their money rather than kill 6 bosses over and over and over and over in FGS, would it REALLY be the end of the world? >_>:

Correct me if I am wrong but doesn’t PvP already have the best rewards? I don’t ever recall PvE having rl cash prizes, hotel, airfare, etc…

Please keep smurfing in mind. It is an incredible deterrent to new players. Thus it is not good for the health of PvP. Create methods to sideline the activity of such.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

the message must be clear.
sPvP is the end game to rake in riches.
not PvE farming.

Yikes, talk about killing the goose that lays the golden eggs……ie…not really a good idea.

You don’t want to kitten off the PvErs. They are the grease that keeps the game going.

Justin ODell.9517:

Updated Reward System
With gear unification we will also introduce a system that allows players to set goals for rewards in PvP and work towards them. We are not ready to discuss this system in detail yet, as it is still being developed, but more information will come as we get closer to being able to release this system.

Once this new system is in place, glory will be retired as a currency, and gold will be the standard currency across the game. All existing glory vendors will be removed at this time. We will give advance warning when this is coming so you can spend all of your existing glory before that happens.

That’s the part you should keep in mind.

I had had 2 rewards in mind as goals. 20 slot bags for 500 glory each and a shark finisher. Am I to understand I will either not be able to get the rewards I set out PvPing for, or will have to start from scratch again? I hope I have no wasted a year of PvP trying to get these.

Upham.6137:

The last thing PvP needs is a huge influx of PvE players farming skins/gold/exp.

Actually I beg to differ. A huge and constant influx of PvE players is exactly what PvP needs. PvE is the largest pool of potential players that PvP has to draw from. To thrive PvP needs players. So even if only a handful of the PvE players stay and continue to play in PvP, they will aide PvP more than most anything else. Just need to keep smurfers at bay to keep PvP looking amicable to new, potentially long term players.

Join one of the TTS guilds. On the servers that do it you will still need to be in an organized OF. To get into one of those you will need to get there 1hr-45mins before hand.

Be careful if you are not in TTS as sometimes they will ferry each other into specific OF’s leaving the OF you are in. If that happens, chances are you are screwed and you will only be wasting you time.

Best advice… join one of the TTS and get ferried.

PS evidently this design is acceptable…..lol

1) To find out what Cristmash is. Is it made of potatoes? Why is Santa involved in it?

2) New in game (not gem store) rewards.

3) Scavenger Hunt

I feel sorry for anyone that actually thinks that the votes really have had an impact on what has come to fruition. If you really think that the Abaddon one would have been written that much better, well the I have some ocean front property to sell you in Arizona.

Protoavis.9107:

Essence Snow.3194:

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

Although the Flamekissed Armor uses the same mesh as the Tier 3 Human Cultural Armor, it was not our intention to create an armor skin that so closely matched the existing Tier 3 Human Cultural armor set. The intention was to use the mesh as a basis for creating an armor set that stands apart and is distinct in appearance. However, after reading your feedback, we agree that the Flamekissed armor is not visually distinct enough from Human Cultural Tier 3 armor.

I’m sorry but I gotta call you out on this bit. There is NO way possible this was merely non-intention. It was the EXACT same skin with fire added. The same coding was used with some additions. Copy/Paste+fire

Skins don’t really have coding, it’s an art asset not a block of code.

Please explain further. I was under the impression that they used bitmaps, which in laymans terms is a series of 0s and 1s.

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

Although the Flamekissed Armor uses the same mesh as the Tier 3 Human Cultural Armor, it was not our intention to create an armor skin that so closely matched the existing Tier 3 Human Cultural armor set. The intention was to use the mesh as a basis for creating an armor set that stands apart and is distinct in appearance. However, after reading your feedback, we agree that the Flamekissed armor is not visually distinct enough from Human Cultural Tier 3 armor.

I’m sorry but I gotta call you out on this bit. There is NO way possible this was merely non-intention. It was the EXACT same skin with fire added. The same coding was used with some additions. Copy/Paste+fire

They’d have to make it universal….ie minimum sell increments as well.

I wish someone over there could understand that playing alts provides longevity via variety.

That aside, I’m still grinding out my weapons and will continue to be long past the introduction to armors.

Imo all ascended has done is to introduce mass grind to those with alts.

Buttercup.5871:

Pay to win what, exactly?

Pure PvP has been kept “pure” thus far (t/spvp). You (and your team) do well, you win. Your glorious prowess is shown on the leaderboard. Nothing in the gemstore to help you there.

WvW is so zergy I’d say it barely matters. Both sides will have low level people running around in greens, it all evens out eventually. Besides that, there is no personal WvW leaderboard, it’s only your world as a whole that counts. So only if your world “wins”, you “win”.

Those are the only two PvP related activities I know in GW2 which traditionally are considered to determine whether “P2W” exists.

1st you have to look at defining P2W. If we stick to a customary definition, then PvE is very hard to justify. If we take a more open approach (the fractal leader boards for example) to the definition, then we can see we have pretty much already crossed that line. The term “Keeping up with the Jones’s” comes to mind.

In terms of PvP, custom arena are boarderline P2W. Again it depends on how strictly one defines the constraints of p2w.

In WvW it really depends on organization. Unorganized zergs do not stand up to lesser numbers (within reason 2-1….4-1)when lesser numbers are organized (geared, proper skills, tactics).

tolunart.2095:

morrolan.9608:

You will note I use the word ‘effectively’. If anet are going to claim drops as their alternate means then its simply a way to weasel out of the issue.

That doesn’t change the fact that it’s merely your opinion and not a statement of fact. In a game with several hundred thousand players online every day, it happens a lot more than you seem to think it does.

Yes! Didn’t you know that people win the lotto all the time. It’s a completely valid way to get rich! Work? Please….I’ll go with my valid alternate method.

Evidently not as much as yours.

Note that I did not say that A or B could or couldn’t lead to C. What I did say is that you cannot discount someone’s comment based off the information you gave in the OP.

This is hilarious!