Guild Wars 2

^^ Sent him a pm saying the same thing. People on this board cry entirely too much instead of adapting.

Hi, I’m OP.

/15 char

jesus can’t help us

Still a better love story than Twilight.

Anet, since release, has always and will continue to nerf burst in various forms, never bunker, never ever bunker. I am not concerned, and I think with the recent announcement of the trait lines for each class being reworked I’m hopeful that if we DO take a pet nerf, we will have more synergistic traits, possibly better AI to compensate.

I want my warr changes =)

Yes.

/15 char

Ya usually just using sword or dagger skills while immobed will be sufficient, I get mesmer rooted for shatter combos all day, and dagger 4 or sword 2/3 help me avoid all incoming dmg if timed correctly.

I lost it at the cow finisher, absolutely hilarious.

How do you feel you do w/o unsuspecting foe? I’m a similair build but I’m 10/10/30/10/10, I wanted to drop the 10 in arms and unsuspecting foe and put 20 in disc.

And I’m also sw/sh and hammer

But been trying 15/0/30/10/15 as of late, i like the more adren on wep swaps and the faster swapping.

Eww sylvari

Nasty creatures

DAoC had great warriors.

Forzani.2584:

Furajir.3815:

Mark my words, with the imminent Weakness buff as a whole across the board, and pets may or may not be taking a hit, I will just revert to regen trapper, and I will use sb and axe/torch or axe/dagger and still lay waste to kids.

You heard it here first. Complain about pet all you want, nerf it’s damage and your’e going to be eating traps for 5x the amount of dmg my pet inflicts.

You’re going to use this is WvW ? Bored at work trying to create a build and don’t have enough points or utility slots to do it.

Looked at this, but the healing in the build is wasted. No Signet of the Wild and no Natural Healing.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQRAnf8YjAVB2xV2Vo2Bi2DOZ+zzeoIH9IXhRVwpG-jkxAIOB58YR0YrbFRjVrTEVrZw8KFRrGA-w

Put the 30 points from Wilderness to BM to get the natural healing but hate all the traits.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQRAnf8YjAVB2xV2Vo2BC2DF5oH9eEr03eXhRVwpG-jkxAIOB58YR0YrbFRjVrTEVrZw8KFRrGA-w

Dunno how you pull this off for a roaming Ranger in WvW

I can pull off anything, and Natural Healing utter trash, I would drop Hunt and just roll with wild, or take 2 sigs and 1 trap.

Can make anything work, its just there to make up for pet dps.

Putting 10 into BM and getting Masters Bond is a must, and do yourself a favor and get sword/torch and lay waste to enemies, after BM just dump points into power or condition based lines.

also get a jaguar pet from asura starter jungle, best pve pet damage wise with masters bond you can get, it will rip vets to shreds.

Taken from another forum and I agree.

Ranger pet damage does require adjusting but I think it is being approached in an incorrect manner. The problem is that rangers only fully scale well with defensive traits, this is due to low multipliers on their abilities. I believe out of all their abilities 24 of them have a coefficient of .5 or lower. This means that stacking power will not give you much of a difference for them. The only option a ranger has for self dps is conditions which wins by default, due to power not being a thing. This can however be fixed by migrating over player stats to the pets to equalize the shortcomings they get while spec’n into physical damage. If it is being balanced based on the fact a bunker can do damage with a pet, what happens to every other spec then? There is no way to properly balance the direction that was taken with pets, and I think moving into a system where stats are migrated would be in the game’s balances best interest.

I know a few gents that run power/gs/regen builds quite effectively and do amazing damage given the right build, most run a minimum of 25BM, but the pet makes up for the loss of burst dps.

First, Decided to go with a much more offensive build than previous video, I also stuck with either using Snow leopard with malicious training for chill stacking, or Jaguar with Pet Prowess.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/ranger/?6.0|c.0.h1k.f.0.h5|7.1f.h1k.8.1f.h5|1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d|31m.0.21m.0.31m.0.21m.0.31m.0.2u.0|a2.0.u57c.a3.k29|30.d|4j.4o.4q.4r.0|e

Got a lot of complaints last video for recording quality with the camera, many don’t know that I have a physical handicap in both hands that makes it difficult to rotate camera at certain points during skirmishes, I hope this one was a tiny bit better, I did what I could. Most fights are sped up due to duration, 1vx are spread throughout, tried getting decent 1v2-’s in there but like the first clips, people would just keep adding. And some portions are also zoomed in, was an editing mistake.

Enjoy and please leave any feedback, pos or negative.

My 2nd BM/REgen/Condi Ranger video.

Ya because I’ll be kitten ed if I’m forced into rolling some type of bow build.

Probably wasn’t the best to show a video of you abusing environment while trying to get the attention of the devs. Just sayin.

Mark my words, with the imminent Weakness buff as a whole across the board, and pets may or may not be taking a hit, I will just revert to regen trapper, and I will use sb and axe/torch or axe/dagger and still lay waste to kids.

You heard it here first. Complain about pet all you want, nerf it’s damage and your’e going to be eating traps for 5x the amount of dmg my pet inflicts.

Mark my words, with the imminent Weakness buff as a whole across the board, and pets may or may not be taking a hit, I will just revert to regen trapper, and I will use sb and axe/torch or axe/dagger and still lay waste to kids.

You heard it here first. Complain about pet all you want, nerf it’s damage and your’e going to be eating traps for 5x the amount of dmg my pet inflicts.

Everytime i upload one I can’t find this option for my friends that use mobile devices?

I miss the sigil that did 100% dmg on next skill use, birds were so op

I’m going to pray that this doesn’t affect pve or wvwvw. I hope anet would be smarter than that, but then again, I’ve been duped before.

Yup can’t count how many times I’ve been invited to group or gotten pm’s asking me what just happened, my server has gotten to know me and Faux, we seem to be the only 2 people that run our build types, probably more so now but it’s always the same thing.

What are you? What are you running? You’re a ranger?!

Hi, I’m bunker.

Already been playing my hammer warr a lot in solo roam wvw, can’t wait to see what they change next month.

No iv’e had my pet hit GC thieves for around 6-8k, lol.

I’m fine with a pet adjustment, just fix the kittening pathing/AI, maybe allow the pets to hit moving targets and we can talk.

I just hate how esports and competetive team metas rule the world for the rest of us that really dont give 2 kittens about spvp.

There were a ton of things discussed and not just those 3 mentioned, should probably go back and re-watch the sotg and write down, because I took a lot more than this away, I think it will be positive.

It’s really not hard to focus a pet, I remember Puandro telling me he was out and about, had 20+ stacks of MB on his pet and he was fighting a thief or something, the thief disengaged, and re-engaged with his buddy showed up, they focused down the pet ina matter of 1-2 seconds.

Xsorus is correct, they are an issue because people let them be an issue. I hate to keep using it as an example, but DAoC, in competetive 8v8 pet clearing and focusing were absolutely essential to keep pet classses at bay and force them to make decision, swap pets, recast pets, reposition etc, it was a constant battle throughout the fight to keep pets at bay and force the caster or user to make tough decisions, if you didnt, it was over.

It blows my mind that these “top” teams can’t focus down or call for an assist to focus fire down a pet to make the ranger either swap or the pet dies and forces an insanely long pet swap downtime.

If anything it seems like they are dumbing down spvp or competitive play and make it so the players have less to do as far as strategy goes, and just more facebashing on the keyboard for teh winz.

I’m never on a kittening node in WvWvW, I’m against the odds, all the time, as is any roamer, why the hell do I have to take a hit just because I choose to be outnumbered? It’s the way I prefer to play.

I’ve run undead before with corruption stacks, and rare veggie pizza, not worth it.

Because they are talking about nerfing pet dmg when it wasn’t really increased to begin with, now that these newly discovered “bunker” builds are viable in spvp, and the players are complaining, it’s all of a sudden a problem.

Not reallya matter of how/when it will happen, it will still be a nerf w/o any fixes to the class.

Exactly my point, viable builds have been around with no changes to the rangers pet damage or their bunker ability in any recent patches. But now, just because some spvp esport nerds wanna have a kitten and can cap points and be a little strudier than some other guys, it’s a serious problem.

I dont understand why the kitten sotg or game balance is based off these esport kids who only favor spvp, and the entire game is based off whats good in team vs team comp, not how it even affects players in wvwv. My pet is not OP, if your going to reduce the damge, at least fix the kitten pathing.

With 20 BM, 30% crit dmg from pet prwoess, and Jag with 25 stacks of masters bond (which i do run in wvwvw) the pet hits hard. W/o I don’t see an issue.

Zenith.7301:

It will come down globally, or how do you propose pet damage be cut down only for BM bunkers but not for the rest?

Marksman is a garbage tree until 30 major trait, Skirmishing is only good up to 20, WS is pretty bad at 10 but starts getting great at 15+, and NM is only good for bunkers with 20 points at most.

BM is only there mostly for the shorter pet swap and the pet stats — the traits are uniformly bad — some less bad than others but still bad nonetheless with the exception of vigor for bird switch and bleeding for jaguars/drakes.

But somehow we got a single spec that is apex 1v1 and it upsets people. You never hear complaints about Guardians despite the fact that they are the most broken class in the game, being the backbone of any team in any format — they are second only in demand to warriors in PvE, the best WvW class by far, and the undisputed center bunker and team fight utility king.

But because they don’t dominate duels people don’t complain.

This.

Stice.5204:

Furajir.3815:

Being BM facing any player thats worth their salt will eventually end in a stalemate a majority of the time.

This is really the problem with the BM build. No real chase-down ability means that most enemies can just disengage freely once they decide they aren’t going to kill you.

I’m always kind of mystified watching the solo roaming WvW videos that you and other rangers post here because you’ve got all these clips of thieves who reengage at less than half health and end up dead. I realize you’re just choosing good clips out of hours of footage but my first impulse reaction to that is always “What server is this guy playing on where thieves actually fight to the death? I need to transfer there!”

Whats wrong with not being a wuss and staying to fight? At least they are trying? I could upload the fights between myself and Xeviel etc to show stalemates, and he stays to fight, we just end up drawing.

90% of the player base is bad and don’t know what they are doing. I played a Thief, and have fought enough thieves to predict their movements and understand stealth timers and take a pre-amptive strike before they try to bs or re-open, it’s not difficult. I’m not choose “good” clips per say, just clips, what you see in my videos is literally common occurence, I had over 20+hours of wvw roaming footage and just pick and chose, I didn’t really sift by any measure.

ButterOfDeath.2873:

S/D thieves are OP,cause of #3…counter with patch i guess x)

btw it’s OP because:
1) cheap
2) hurts alot
3) unblockable
4) gives evasion
5) steals boons
6) amazing synergy with #2 (2,3,3,2 rinse and repeat until win)

This probably didn’t help him at all.

Over the numerous numerous duels I have had with the 2 best thieves that are sw/d on my server, we always come to a stalemate.

Being BM facing any player thats worth their salt will eventually end in a stalemate a majority of the time. he fights I recorded were easily 10-23mins long each. Ended in stalemate each time.

But given your wep set and you said you had chill? I can’t tell what kind of bm build you’re running without you providing more information.

Straegen.2938:

My fellow rangers, if you are doing any of the following while fighint other players in WvW please stop:

1. Barraging on your position in the open. This is almost universally a bad idea and has become a running joke in our skirmish team. We see it multiple times per night and it has ALWAYS ended badly for the ranger.

2. Sending a pet into stalemated group fight. Those pets between two fighting groups become a bridge for skills that hop targets. For example, my thief SB attack loves rangers and necros because they frequently extend my base attack as it hops from the pet to the group. This in turn allows sigil of fire to trigger into the group. Pets also allow those abilities to essentially shoot around corners.

3. Thinking you are invincible. With a very rare exception the ranger is at a huge disadvantage when the numbers are against them. What I am saying is stop charging into our 4 man team by yourself. You absolutely cannot win under any circumstance and aren’t even a speed bump. Sometimes running is the better part of valor. Call it in and come back in force.

4. Standing in a trap with a bow (doubly especial with the longbow). You are not fooling anyone and giving up one of the rangers best defensive features which is mobility and range. This doesn’t apply to melee.

There are a lot more bad behaviors (such as using Rampage as One too late in a fight) but these are topping my list. I am sure most of this is related to inexperienced rangers but a public service announcement needed to be made since there is a common pattern.

Not trying to be a kitten here and insult the class. I do actively run a Ranger with 8k+ WvW kills and another 10k plus on other classes most of which has come from skirmishing in the lower tiers.

Mhmm

I don’t use spring, however all that extra condi dmg and toughness would be pretty lol.

^^Free badges.

I ended up just rocking Dwayna and corruption stacks + Rare veggie pizza, seems to give me best of both worlds.

You spend 10 years in the military and see if your brain isn’t affected.

I ended up going with 0/0/30/20/20 , guess we’ll see how it goes!

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Yeah, nugget made a believer out of me. I changed that trait to Wilderness Knowledge.

Same, I heart math nerds.

Ya I haven’t ran it since 1st video, been using WK or ET.

Pet prowess or agility training are really nice, but I stack MB as is, would be nice to have, but I find when I try to go too offensive being bunker I walk a realy fine line, and I feel like having to spend 10pts to get my pets to move faster is kitten stupid.

Thanks.

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I need a math person to work it up for me, is it worth getting/keeping? How many extra dodges am I looking at with TU?

I’m actually contemplating dropping the 10 in skirm with pets prowess and dumping into NM for Natures Protection, would help eliminate a lot of the burst I have to endure.