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Rangers have more strengths than they do weaknesses, the ones that are having success are the ones that don’t dwell on them and have adapted accordingly rather than say it’s “problems with the class”. Most rangers on this forum are just like yourself, are their own enemies, they are fixated on a particular way to play and can’t or won’t step outside the box.

Most fall prey to the “Well I can’t do it so we need to fix the class” as a whole theory, and this should not be the case.

Puandro showcases an amazing regen/power/bm build, Sarlack Kalorian showcases a double bow regen build, and myself and Faux/Menorah showcase regen/bm/condition builds, all of whome have put videos on this forum and are having great success, see a pattern?

I agree with this piece of sylvari trash ^^ =)

No complaints here

Feel free to click the video link in my signature.

Just to finish world completion, then it’s back to AR

And i already xferred to Ebay to finish map completion =(

Thanks Menorah, same goes for you, but I don’t agree with spvp being compared to wvw as far as classes go. I think spvp has become this entity where people are elitists because of rank and being able to point capture, it’s boring and repetitive, and i don’t think it holds any merit for skill, take the same grp of 5 and stick them in wvw, they won’t accomplish jack.

Updated to show build =)

Then just go standard 30/30 and put remaining 10 whereever you want since it’s pve oriented.

I went 10 into BM as quickly as possible, got a jaguar and got masters bond, used sword/torch and melted everything.

Yeah it’s usually 0/10/30/10/20 or 0/0/30/10/30 the first being centered around Pets prowess upping their crit dmg and condition dmg, the second one focusing more so on regens, vigor etc. I may have been a mix of both during this vid, not really sure, wasn’t quite paying attention.

But Faux is correct we have next to no power, all the dmg comes from conditions and being able to sustain/outlast opponents.

Usually running either corruption stacks with mango pie and master crystals, or healing stacks with rare veggie pizza for condi dmg + duration on certain classes that have really good condi removal, such as eles/guards etc.

It’s 25s but still pretty good compared to most other classes.

Thats a very good alternative, and it’s easier/cheaper to get.

Yep love mine, deff worth it, I’ll probably buy 1 or 2 more just in case further down the road I want to reskin on etc.

Gs actually works very well in all venues. try giving this a shot?

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/ranger/?6.0|1.1c.h2|0.0.0.0.0.0|1c.7r.1c.7r.1c.7r.1c.7r.1c.7r.1c.7r|2u.0.2u.0.3u.0.2u.0.3u.0.2u.0|a1.0.u4ac.u569.0|15.1|0.0.0.0.0|e

•Power is 2181 without Oil, 2388 with.
•Toughness equates to 42.14% damage mitigation.
•Max HP is 26,062 •You take 25% less damage w/ Barkskin when you have 6,515 hp or less.

•+10% damage when endurance is full
•+5% greatsword damage
•+5% damage when you have a boon
•-65% condition duration on you thanks to runes and food
•-25% stun duration on you

Conditions are going to slide off you. You’re very tanky. You’re very mobile. And you hit reliably hard without depending on the RNG garbage that is crit chance. Couple this with the innate evasion the greatsword auto-attack chain has and you have one serious beast of a Ranger … and he has a pet.

I ran this for awhile and had really great success, I used Gs and Sw/Dagger or Sw/wh

Could literally stand in necro wells, eat thief burst, parlay with trap rangers, and take 1v2’s and up to 3 no problem, you dont have much in the way of regen, you aren’t exactly bunker and you have next to no crit/crit damage but kitten you hit hard and you can take a serious beating.

I also put the 10 points in marksmanship and put it into BM

Yes they don’t heal for more than 2k but fgj and shake it off are great utilities to rock, so why not have them heal?

So I threw together a full set of the new Sentinel stats because I was bored, power/toughness/vitality with Vitality being the main stat. I wanted to make a pure tank/CC build that allowed some sustainment as well as damage. You can take a serious beating as well as deal good damage and have great sustainment.

Video will be uploaded later today had some issues rendering.

Traits are as follows:

10 Arms- III (Great fortitude)
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30 Defense- II X XI ( Doged march, Merciless hammer, Defy Pain) for 2x endure pains
30 Tactics- I VIII XIII ( Leg spec, Lung capacity, Vigourous shouts)

So I know a lot of people say shouts suck kitten, which they can, but most don’t couple the tait with high enough vitality or toughness.

Most of these traits can be reworked to harbor more defensive skills, such as an Shrug it off, etc for extra condi removal.

Runes are Melandru 6/6 with Lemongrass+ Superior sharpening stones. I do not have any sigils on weps because thats player preference, obviously if you want more power, toss bloodlust in there for an extra 250 power to give you a staggering 3426 power, or precision coupled with fgj for more crit chance etc.

2nd image with Hammer_ http://imgur.com/edit

I am about to make 2x legendaries and I’m curious to know something. They both won’t have the stats I want, so if I transmute the legendary skin onto something with the stats I want, will I lose out on future updates to the legendaries? Has anyone heard anything official on this?

Thank you, glad you enjoyed

Yay! First, awesome stuff bro.

Theres nothing wrong with either pet nor sword. Learn to time your evades etc. Spec into BM. Playing the ranger is exactly that a pet class, 50% user 50% pet, it’s like playing 2 characters, learn to manage them, you can’t expect to go full zerker etc and not have a squishy pet, it’s give or take, pet necros have to give up every single utility bar to slot pets, do you see pet necros complaining about anything other than AI problems? The only that that needs to be fixed on pets is F2 speed. And if you have any doubt, I suggest you watch the video in my link.

Don’t fall prey to the “well I can’t do it, so fix it” mentality.

Well I came from DAoC, played for around 10 years as a solo roamer, I never was into “Realm pride” or cared who had relics etc. The only thing I dislike about GW2’s pvp is the “Nameless Enemy” aspect. I thrived off rivalry and kitten talking in daoc, you could see a players deathspam from another realm, who and where they killed said person and it became a hunt so to speak. So i’ve never been a zerger, I appreciate the against the odds aspect. It’s just something I noticed when I was trying to get map completion for my legendaries for the past few months.

I think that if rangers weren’t 50% ranger 50% pet as far as overall damage/utility ws concerned, I could see them lacking a bit, but most of the time they are very unreliable, and this is coming from someone who manages my pet very well, like playing 2 characters at once, and it’s still difficult to get the results I want.

You guys have insane numbers at all hours, don’t you guys have job?! Some of adults have to fire up workdays haha

Haha hey man if the dance moves ain’t broke, don’t fix em.

In my own opinion pet skills should be instant, you need them in that instance when you need them, not in 1.5-2s especialy in a game where even 0.001s makes a difference between being downed and healing.

Thorson.9218:

As others have said, nice vid. Your survivability is amazing. You were getting hit and your health was going UP! A linky to your build would be most appreciated. :-)

As soon as I get off work tonight I will update post with build etc.

Sebrent.3625:

Nice video, though I couldn’t help but notice some of your opponents were so bad that they were ignoring you and attacking your pet. The Guardian in that Guard + Ele fight against you is a good example of this.

Trust me I know. The sad part was is that these were the “better” players than the people i am constantly steamrolling on a daily basis.

Ya haha, thank you, there were deff some parts i could have edited/sped up, but I’m not very tech savvy and was having a hrd time editing as it is. I’ll kepe that in mind for next time.

Are they worth it? I direct you to my link.

Expiatus.4210:

ANVIL ROCK!!!!
Sweet video. You folks always amaze me with your skill.

Is this the same build you used for GS/S,D?

Actually got the GS and s/d I wore soldier everything, weps, armor, trinkets with Runes of melandru and used lemongrass/sharpening stones. I really enjoyed it, but power will only take you so far, I couldn’t take down multiples quite as quickly. I believe I posted it awhile back, if you can’t find it pm me and I’ll look through my messages.

Thanks all, deffinitely had fun making it, were some thing I could do more of, like using sword 2 to disengage/Catch people, and not killing myself on Retaliation so hard sometimes as a friend pointed out.

Was my first time recording with afterburner, my camera kept getting stuck at certain points throughought and my fps was taking a dive.

1) I expect flames, build is similair to Faux’s that hes made very popular, although mine has minor adjustments here and there for a more aggressive playstyle. I like to utilize pets to spike at certain points using pet prowess etc. Been experiementing with a few things, I will post build etc later, this was done on a whim and for fun.

Usually running either corruption stacks with mango pie and master crystals, or healing stacks with rare veggie pizza for condi dmg + duration on certain classes that have really good condi removal, such as eles/guards etc. Depending on the build I decide to run, which is usually a variation of Build 1 or 2 linked below.

Enjoy.

Build Variation 1, focusing on regen/vigor etc: http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/ranger/?6.0|c.1f.h1k.f.1f.h5|7.1f.h1k.8.1f.h6|1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d|31m.0.31m.0.31m.0.31m.0.31m.0.2u.0|0.0.u47c.a3.u54c|0.0|4j.4o.4q.4r.0|e

Build variation 2, focusing on more pet condi dmg/critical hits: http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/ranger/?6.0|c.1f.h1k.f.1f.h5|7.1f.h1k.8.1f.h6|1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d|31m.0.31m.0.31m.0.31m.0.31m.0.2u.0|0.a1.u57c.a3.k54|0.0|4j.4o.4q.4r.0|e

Build variation 3, PVE focused: http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/ranger/?6.0|c.1f.h1k.f.1f.h5|7.1f.h1k.8.1f.h6|1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d.1f.71d|31m.0.31m.0.31m.0.31m.0.31m.0.2u.0|0.u18b.u47c.a3.0|0.0|4j.52.50.4r.0|e

You have got to be the whiniest kid on these forums.

Daecollo.9578:

Calae.1738:

peter.9024:

That trait is insanely good. It stacks additively with all other condi removal and reduces any cripple and immob to basically nothing!

I had a feeling this was the case.

Runes of Melandru + Bowl of Lemongrass Poultry Soup + Dogged March = immune to cripple, chilled and immobilize.

I am unstoppable.

I just pvped with all three, not the case.

The problem with it is, you still don’t have sustain.

I actually tried this combination and went full defense/tactics and hammer mace/shield with shouts heal build for testing purposes. Full soldier built, ascended everything, i actually had a lot of sustain and a lot of grp support.

Doesnt really both me honest, I cam from daoc where i played a stealther, got zerged for 10 straight years as a solo player, I’m used to it.

No idea man honestly at this point i dont really care, I’m a little turned off by the sheer numbers BP/ EBay has, it has become disgustingly zergy.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Whoever that AR ranger is wiping me and two others out near the northeast part of EB’s borderlands…you make me so proud. T_T

Yeah, pretty nice ranger build you’ve got there AR dude. /squintyeyes

Fun fights, thanks for the time!

Faux, that picture of Leo Dicaprio in Inception comes to mind.

http://watchplayread.com/files/2010/12/squinty-leo.jpg

No need to pray.

Guess you’ll find out tommorow won’t ya pal?

Your damage in nthis build/gear comes from conditions, clerics gives you power, so no, this setup would not work as well. But I know several rangers that play with clerics but go either double bow or GS etc since those aren’t so much “condition” based weapons.

Only class I have issues with are confusion stacking mesmers/Engis, and can still beat them but it requires maximum focus. After the 30th that will be a thing of the past. Everything else melts.

As you said, stockholm syndrome, Rangers feel like they need to fit into some bow/ranged archetype and not branch out, your downfalls and shortcoming are your own.

I’m actually a bit worried about the patch, I feel as if we are going to be a little over the top.

Yeah i had no issues with it

SB works very well with it as well, I only used Sw/wh or sw/d because of the evades and the Combo field with sword and Healing Spring.

Gs actually works very well in all venues. try giving this a shot?

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/ranger/?6.0|1.1c.h2|0.0.0.0.0.0|1c.7r.1c.7r.1c.7r.1c.7r.1c.7r.1c.7r|2u.0.2u.0.3u.0.2u.0.3u.0.2u.0|a1.0.u4ac.u569.0|15.1|0.0.0.0.0|e

•Power is 2181 without Oil, 2388 with.
•Toughness equates to 42.14% damage mitigation.
•Max HP is 26,062 •You take 25% less damage w/ Barkskin when you have 6,515 hp or less.

•+10% damage when endurance is full
•+5% greatsword damage
•+5% damage when you have a boon
•-65% condition duration on you thanks to runes and food
•-25% stun duration on you

Conditions are going to slide off you. You’re very tanky. You’re very mobile. And you hit reliably hard without depending on the RNG garbage that is crit chance. Couple this with the innate evasion the greatsword auto-attack chain has and you have one serious beast of a Ranger … and he has a pet.

I ran this for awhile and had really great success, I used Gs and Sw/Dagger or Sw/wh

Could literally stand in necro wells, eat thief burst, parlay with trap rangers, and take 1v2’s and up to 3 no problem, you dont have much in the way of regen, you aren’t exactly bunker and you have next to no crit/crit damage but kitten you hit hard and you can take a serious beating.

I also put the 10 points in marksmanship and put it into BM

Yes, they have announced 4 new weapon skins available on the 30th, Brahm’s mace/shield and Rox’s Quiver/Bow

ProxyDamage.9826:

scanz.4536:

Disappointed with this to be honest. A lot of us with ascended quivers have had to put a lot of time, effort and gold into getting one and now anyone can just go buy one with gems. Sigh, nice one ANet.

…so? They’re not taking that away from you are they?

I can’t understand this mentality. It sounds like an 8 year old kid throwing a hissy fit in a playground…

When you made your quiver that was the only thing available. Nobody said they wouldn’t add anything in the future. You had to options: wait and see, or go ahead and make it. You made it. You got what you wanted. Nobody’s taking it away from you. ANet isn’t turning your ascended into a normal skin are they? Are you suggesting that ANet should never add any content ever again, lest people might think “oh that’s nicer looking than what I have! ANet has wronged me!”. It’s not even the same skin.

Get over yourself.

This.

scanz.4536:

Furajir.3815:

What are you guys talking about? It’s just a SKIN, aesthetic only, there aren’t going to be any stats, Anet isn’t gonna put a BP w/ ascended stats in the gemstore for purchase.

You’re missing the point. Not sure why anyone would get an ascended quiver for the stats, they can be obtained for much cheaper via other options. Most will have a quiver for aesthetic reasons and until now the only way to do so was to invest a lot of time and effort into it. However, now you’ll just be able to buy one off the gem store.

Why wouldn’t someone get an ascended quiver? It’s cheap and you dont have to spend 500 hours and 3k+ relics to make a shiny backpiece when all you need is some gold and materials to make the quiver. I’m a ranger, I want arros not some shiny orb on my back. It’s aethetic, a skin, it has no stat value. You’re the one missing the point.

What are you guys talking about? It’s just a SKIN, aesthetic only, there aren’t going to be any stats, Anet isn’t gonna put a BP w/ ascended stats in the gemstore for purchase.

SLOTH.5231:

Furajir.3815:

-Better pathing
-Better AI
-Increased stats/tough/vit etc
-Quicker response time for F2 abilities

Why do I feel as if the Ranger community is going to regret this. Pets were good already just needed minor pathing/ai fixes. An increased stat across the board will make them over the top, couple that with a few builds that 30 BM like mine does, trait felines for crit on regular hits and all of a sudden pets are wrecking players. Mark my words, it won’t be good.

You must not be a real ranger then….

A real ranger? I do extremely well. Aside from the AI/pathing and slow F2 I had zero problems with the way pets are, I run 30 BM and have no issues keeping y pet up, I’m also a soloer that facers 1v2’s+. It’s called kowing how to use your pet, when to send it in and save it for burst etc. The pet isn’t a fire and forget skill, it’s something thats constantly managed, stop accusing me of being terrible when you can’t even manage the pet or think outside the box.