Guild Wars 2

apharma.3741:

Thief: DD, SD, DP, 3 (yes I’ve seen all 3 be somewhat effective, seen PP but it wasn’t very effective)

I have a chance as a D/D if I outplay my opponent heavily, if there’s no lags and bugs and if my opponent uses no conditions (main problems being burn and confusion) – otherwise I don’t stand a chance. Other problem is the constant invulnerability applied to eles and mesmers. Edit²: And of course guards.
So, include that into your claim that you’ve seen these builds being effective – that have been either the top 0,1% of thief players or they were fighting potatos.
Edit: Or the “potatos” had lags or whatever. Not every player who loses is automatically a bad player.

lil devils x.6071:

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I didn’t read everything of what you wrote – but I suspect you said the same like usual – so forgive me, please.

Thing is: What you and him call “for my satisfaction” will destroy the game for “everybody else”.
And I tried to explain it to you two but you just won’t listen.

DiscoJacen.1590:

Jana.6831:

DiscoJacen.1590:

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Another idea: quit the game.
Honestly you don’t get the point, any of you here complaining about no free transfers gets how delicate wvw and communities are.

I’d laugh at that but I realized you’re actually serious.
I guess your in a good WvW server because clearly you have no idea what your talking about.
And yet looking at your posting history all I can see is that you have something against Tier9 players. We’re sorry if we’re bothering you with our problems.

Sorry I’m enjoying the game, I don’t think the Devs are Satan, I’m just pointing out flaws where I/we see them. And if I’m on these forums shouting ideas and stuff on a regular basis it’s because I care. I wouldn’t be here otherwise.
Here’s another though: you can also leave the forums and enjoy your well balanced WvW if talking about real problems is unbearable for you.

Why bother ruining your health with us eh? Clearly we’re beyond “reasoning” : )

I transfered 3 times = I’ve been to 4 servers – I know what I’m talking about – I guess it’s you.
And you’re right – I shouldn’t bother
Edit: oh and I’m not on a gold server. I nerver wanted to be in gold, so all the servers I’ve been to have been bronze/silver. But the only time I would ask someone to lend me gold would be for a server transfer as nothing in this game is more important to me than a healthy server. And my first server has been indirectly destroyed by free transfers.

DiscoJacen.1590:

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Another idea: quit the game.
Honestly you don’t get the point, any of you here complaining about no free transfers gets how delicate wvw and communities are.

DiscoJacen.1590:

Jana.6831:

DiscoJacen.1590:

It’s the act of having to pay extra that is unacceptable, not the actual price of it.

It’s not anet fault your server is deserted and they can’t force people to play on your server. So this really is in your hands.

Had they made ANY form of statement that they were aware of the situation and wouldn’t do anything I would have agreed with ya. No all we get is promises. If they’re gonna be hypocrites about their interest in their game mode then it is normal we should expect them to take care of this problem..

When a server is empty, you close it and dump the players on the next server up. Every mmo game has done it, or something similar, at some point (ex: GW1 removed moving restrictions between servers when some countries started to dwindle in numbers). Plus it saves money for the developer because one less server to maintain online. So no it is their fault for not monitoring anything.

This change was for servers like you – it took really long for them to notice and to change, but they finally did and what do you do? Complain.
And technically the server wasn’t empty as before this change PvE and wvw counted as one population, so I guess you had enough people who signed up for underworld when they started to play and they counted towards your overall population.
So, give this time, things won’t change over night. And in the meantime ask your 5 fellow wvw players if you shouldn’t move to another medium server.

DiscoJacen.1590:

It’s the act of having to pay extra that is unacceptable, not the actual price of it.

It’s not anet fault your server is deserted and they can’t force people to play on your server. So this really is in your hands.

liquid.5871:

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Here’s an idea: Buy the ready made legendary.

Ok I Did It.2854:

So im a whiner and a lazy person, ive crafted quite a few more legendary’s than you, and more map completions than you, so I think its safe to say, ive already rolled my sleeves up and did the work.

However I DID NOT say that they had to remove the reward from map completion just that they add a different way to get them, most people who have played from the very start do not want to still be mapping the game to beable to make a legendary weapon in a few years time.

No offense but first every other week there was “PLS remove wvw map completion, it’s so tedious, we don’t want to do it” now it’s “we want to buy it” I get your point, but I hope you get mine as well.

I don’t mind map completion actually. Have done it 7? times so far – for me it’s a method to get all the low level crafting mats and I do it when I’m fed up with wvw for a while.

Heather.4823:

Lag is really bad in EB at the moment

For me too, although we only have roamers on all sides but my opponents seem to port and jump all over the place.
Edit: Forgot, also had/have this on the green borderland.
Edit²: 44-77 ping in game, no packet loss (and constant 36 ping in pingplotter).

lil devils x.6071:

It should not have stayed like it was, I discussed that months ago last time T3 was broken, it not staying like it was and implementing poorly thought out restrictions that do not actually solve the problems are two separate issues.

The changes have got nothing to do with how T3 is broken – the changes aren’t about you.

lil devils x.6071:

I do not recall anyone stating it should stay like it was, it was broken, they just chose to break it more rather than solve the problems. * Had * too much power? LOL no one * lost* power. That is silly, my server didn’t actually lose anything at all, not even one guild left that does not still have accounts here.

Like I said above: this change was nothing to solve any problems you guys have in the upper tiers but it will restrict you at some point.

lil devils x.6071:

My not being able to play in wvw right now has nothing to do with “havign time to discuss the issues”, it has to do with my father being in the hospital atm and being unable to get bogged down in fights when I have to stop and handle other things every few min. I do not waste space in wvw maps to AFK with RL issues. Sadly I could not even ask my Dad to play with me on this game while he is recovering, because he would not even be able to get on the server either.

Get a second account and play with your family and friends on a different server – maybe they enjoy it more than you think they would because you have a weird opinion of how things should be. And btw: It was a joke, I don’t really care why you don’t play, I just wonder why you don’t get that your opinion is flawed.

lil devils x.6071:

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lil devils x.6071:

Just mashing random players together does not solve the problems, that is what they do in EoTM and you see how well that works.

EotM is a whole different thing than wvw and I’m always transferring alone and make friends on every server I’m on (except SBI, haven’t been there long enough) – you can build a community, you know? We don’t all have to be preset and perfect and then decide to transfer to a server.

lil devils x.6071:

PLayers have to be able to havea choice where they play and who they play with for it to work, otherwise toxic communities just continue to run players off from the game.

True but it doesn’t say that only the “full” servers have got healthy communities

lil devils x.6071:

Expecting players to have the option to play where there is 24/7 coverage is not expecting more than what other games ALREADY provide.

That would be playing against npcs – otherwise a 24/7 coverage on 2 continents isn’t possible – try to understand that.

lil devils x.6071:

My “only” problem is not that I am unable to get my sister on to my server, it is no one on full servers can get their friends and family on, that we cannot even recommend the game to anyone anymore,

Then don’t recommend it – you still don’t get it – what guys did to NA was what was toxic and maybe this system will help the wvw community as a whole. There are more people than T1 and you. Please, try to get that, alright?

lil devils x.6071:

It should not have stayed like it was, I discussed that months ago last time T3 was broken, it not staying like it was and implementing poorly thought out restrictions that do not actually solve the problems are two separate issues. I do not recall anyone stating it should stay like it was, it was broken, they just chose to break it more rather than solve the problems. * Had * too much power? LOL no one * lost* power. That is silly, my server didn’t actually lose anything at all, not even one guild left that does not still have accounts here.

My not being able to play in wvw right now has nothing to do with “havign time to discuss the issues”, it has to do with my father being in the hospital atm and being unable to get bogged down in fights when I have to stop and handle other things every few min. I do not waste space in wvw maps to AFK with RL issues. Sadly I could not even ask my Dad to play with me on this game while he is recovering, because he would not even be able to get on the server either.

In your head it wasn’t broken – in reality it was. Look at the NA standings, look at how servers have been pushed. It’s hard against 2 servers hand holding, that no matter what tier and if these 2 servers push out every other server it’s unhealthy. I can imagine quite a lot of people quit because of that behaviour and the new system tries to even wvw populations out which is a good start for real competition – what good is it if all wvw players have their T1-6 while everybody else quits out of frustration as no matter what you do, how good you are, there’s always rigged matches.
That’s not what anet intended to to, they just measured the wvw population wheras it was wvw and pve before that. This is just a side effect. Like I said before: Your server has been full for now what? 1,5 years? 2 years? and still there were loopholes of a few minutes a day in which people could sign up for that server. How is that better for a new player?
You still think that a wvw server needs 24/7 coverage – in reality that’s insane and nothing that can be achieved except if every server is world wide.

I can play wvw whenever I want. On EU with only EU timezones, I always find crazies to beat or to play with – I don’t need blob fights 24/7.
And it seems as if this new system really does good but that is a bit more complicated. At least it became cheaper to transfer and at least no wvw population can stack endlessly on a few servers. It will take a while until we can say what changed for the better or worse – I don’t think you need to worry, though. Your only problem is that you can’t get your sister onto your server – you could have bought another account beforehand – I mean they announced the changes? And the upper NA tiers seem to be prepared for anything, so why not for that as well?

lil devils x.6071:

I do believe it is based on the number of players that actually go in to wvw, however, you are correct that it is still based on the PVE populations, due to the number of PVE players that come in just to do their dailies or champs and leave. The Top servers have a large enough PVE population coming in just to do dailies that even if the wvw players all stopped playing they would probably still be marked full from the people doing dailies alone.

I feel so bad for T1 NA! Really I do – I mean you can’t even find time anymore to play because you have to tell us just how bad things are for your server, your family and coworkers. And that even though none of us really knows how things will turn out as this system is brand new.

Honestly: Had it stayed like it was there wouldn’t have been anyone (except T1+2) to play against anymore as you guys had way too much power over the rest of the wvw players.

Timelord.8190:

To be fair they should do a stress test before they release changes. The patch were just to fix problems that were introduced to the game in march, not the core issue of lag.

Server sided lag happens when big battles occurs, either you are roaming or zerging you will be effected by it.

I’m not an arena net employee, I can’t do anything about your dissatisfaction.
But: we have been trying to be heard since April – so every bit is a progress to me.
And I know that all people on the map are affected BUT I don’t feel any lag when I’m in a zerg.

Depends on what you want to do:
Solo roaming: Strength
Solo roaming and access to might: Strength

Zerg: Hoelbrak or Melandru if you struggle with conditions.

Kocoff.7582:

I just had a feeling somebody would make that remark.

I wonder why that is.

Kocoff.7582:

I suggest they add a trait to allow us to diminish direct AoE damages (not conditions) while stealthed or something. Maybe in the famous Shadow Arts, I know it’s already a buffed up trait line but it wouldn’t make sense anywhere else.

Ok, so SA is “buffed up”… why didn’t I know that?
Well yeah, for D/P thieves it’s great.

Timelord.8190:

So you raised the cap without adding a fix. That’s depressing. To me it seems like you just banging your head against the wall. I don’t get why you would raise the cap when it already is laggy (at least you should know).

To be fair, they made a patch and raising the cap was to see if the patch solved some of the problems (or so I guess).
They patched the game being laggy when the map was open for a while – but I guess most of us had troubles no matter how long we’ve been on the same map. And I found that the lags get worse when I’m roaming – being in a zerg somehow works but there’s so much AoE and stuff flying around that I probably don’t notice.

KlausKNT.9302:

Enjoy brilliant servers
Who care?
Not me for sure
So lets stop cry and have some fun on good wvsw fights
See You on the field !!

People can solo towers – doesn’t have to be a thief or a hacker.
And I really don’t know what the last one should show. (And why your healthbar is blacked out – who cares about how much health you have? or are you a hacker yourself and afraid to be caught?)
Apart of that: I don’t get why these complain threads are still up – we’ve had hackers in the past, maybe every server had to deal with them, but it somehow went down mostly without drama – but you guys from T9 seem to be drama queens

Jayne.9251:

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Reply to both your posts: I know that it can work, it has worked on my first server, it doesn’t really work on my current server, although I don’t think that is malicious intend, we’re just too many potatos, but that wasn’t my point. My point was that these (NA) guilds seem to be only interested in rigging the matches so they can have the opponents they wish – and you can call out in map chat all you like, they won’t come to help if it isn’t in their interest which is a certain outcome of the week’s match – but you still have the queue and that’s why this is working (for the GvG guilds) because the populationn of the server which wants to play wvw is shut out. I’m on a “very high” silver server and even we’ve got queues for a few hours a day.

And yeah, I hope things will work out for NA too.

Jayne.9251:

That’s when you organize and flip stuff.

Cos if they’re keeping the enemy busy with fights, that leaves the map wide open to control.. Enemy can’t be two places at once. It’s win-win.

That’s nice in theory but in reality it’s “organized” GvG fights on usual maps during prime time and we’ve got a queue. And about 10 tags on the map, so no one really knows where to go. It’s abit more complicated actually.I think we’ve had 2 GvG guilds on our maps once, or maybe 3, and 2 were against a “public” blob but they couldn’t get themselves to work together – that was a really sad fight, which we probably just won because I was pushing (as a glassy thief) while writing to them in mapchat that they should stop pew pewing from afar.

Jayne.9251:

And, over time, if those GvG guilds are given leeway to fight, trust gets built, and my experience is they tend to respond more to call outs. But it takes time for trust to build. Work with them, and hopefully they’ll work with you, too.

Yeah in an ideal situation, but again: I’ve been on NA, I left about a year ago and came to EU, I looked at the standings from time to time and you could see which servers were pushed up or down – and I was wondering why that was – GvG- guilds rigging the matches is a perfect explanation – so I think your example might apply to EU standards but not to NA. And I’m not against GvG or anything, just “We’re going to push this and that server and make an alliance with this and that server, because we make this and that server our new GvG server” – that’s plain stupid.

Jayne.9251:

That’s the common misconception about GvG guilds … That that is all they do, when often if a healthy and respectful relationship is created on both sides, they become the backbone of the server and biggest contributors to ppt.

It’s when toxic relationships are created that things tend to go sour. You can’t GvG 24/7, and often members of GvG guilds become part of the pug force when not skedded to raid.

Probably, but if they even fix matches (and go lengths to do so), then I don’t think they care about their servers at all.
We’ve had some guilds which were also into GvG who did great on our servers, but they weren’t fighting just to get their GvGs, they were fighting for the fights.

Lola.4172:

Well you could put NA & EU back together again. GW1 we all played together nicely
It would solve a lot of problems.

up

Not the ping problem.

Notsoperky.4291:

Sorry to disappoint, but I’m on two EU T1 servers.

Also, I don’t want to disable server transfers, far from it. I’d love to see a more even spread of players across servers, and more players coming in to wvw- but in order to do that, spreading out the existing player base isn’t the best option. Making wvw a more attractive place to play is- but one new map in 3 years and totally ignoring wvw adjustments, hacks, cheats , etc isn’t going to retain or bring back the players who left.

What’s 80 gold got to do with anything? I’m glad you can make 80 gold in 3 weeks solely doing wvw as a solo camp flipper, though the transfer fees are a lot more than that to anything other than a medium (ie dead) server. I suppose I could play guardian and spam 1 and maybe make that, if I don’t upgrade anything and don’t use foods and don’t try and get any runes, sigils, armor pieces, ascended stuff or any new weapons.

I was annoyed by all the whining about the “dead servers” going on on this forum lately – and you seemed to chime in. Sorry if you didn’t.
And yes, 80 gold = 500 gems is to transfer to another medium server. I’ve been to a server now classed as medium, have friends on that server and played against them this week. They were and are far from being dead. They don’t blob 24/7, sure, but you get some decent action during prime time. If you can’t play during that time then chose a medium NA server.
(I’m a thief – ever seen the nodes in wvw? Farm them as well as the NPC mobs)
Edit: Forgot, yes I’d have to stop upgrading stuff and would have to run with the zerg/blob from time to time.

Leviathan.6327:

Jana.6831:

Counter question: How many male humans do you see anyway?

I’m gonna chime in here to say that statistically, humans are the most played race in almost every mmo that offers them. I’ve seen a few polls each year on reddit that surveyed a large amount of players on GW2 (on their favorite race, profession, and all that jazz) and humans were always ranked #1 as the most played.

Human females probably,mostly because of their lost idle animation, I guess.

Leviathan.6327:

No, there aren’t a lot of good hairstyles. The faces have nothing to do with how ugly these new hairstyles have been (although we do have too many baby faces). Not for human males, anyway. That’s kinda the whole point of this thread. To hopefully give Anet some good ideas for future hairstyle additions. If you like them, great. More power to you. But I (along with many others, I bet) think we need to let Anet know that we don’t want our bad*ss human dudes looking like they’re a member of some god awful Tyrian emo boy band (unless that’s what you’re going for, then you’ve got plenty of options there).

That’s your opinion, but not mine nor a fact. Faces do matter a lot when it comes to hairstyles -ask any hairdresser. There already are some quite kitten hairstyles (both mohawk styles, the undercut and some more) but the male humans still look like from a boyband – because they’ve got baby faces. It’s not that hard to understand, is it?

Seabreeze.8437:

Yo, don’t take my words so literally. Also, just because you know one or two people that use them (or even a few), doesn’t mean these styles are super popular.

Sorry, I’m slightly autistic, I take things literal

Seabreeze.8437:

Yes, on occasion I’ll see someone using one of these weird hairstyles, but by and large they’re mostly ugly and repetitive.

Counter question: How many male humans do you see anyway?
And doesn’t every male charr have the same hairstyle as well?
I think the mentioned problem applies to a lot of the character options but still we’ve got more options than other games, so my characters have a chance to look unique.

Seabreeze.8437:

I’m more interested in hairstyles, but I agree the overabundance of babyfaces is also annoying.

I said I’m autistic, that means that I also mean the stuff I say like I said it: Even if there were crazy edgy hairstlyes – they wouldn’t suit the baby faces, that was my point. And maybe that’s the problem, maybe there already are a lot of good hairstyles, they just don’t suit any of the faces.

Seabreeze.8437:

^ Dude, that looks awesome! We totally need this… like right now.

Also, you know human male hairstyle kit options are in a bad place when you hardly ever see anyone in the game using them. Seriously, every time I browse through them with my spare makeover kit, I think, “wow, I forgot these ugly do’s were in here.” That’s because everyone knows they’re terrible and nobody ever uses them!

Not true. Also two of my friends opted for the new mohawk (without knowing from each other – they actually look pretty similar).
I always said that if there was a better haircut than that of my main (second pic) coming along, I’d grab it.. but somehow his “My sister cut my hair”-style still suits him best.

Edit: So yeah, I don’t really contribute to this thread – I’d like some more options as well but in the end most male humans have got weird (baby) faces, so an edgy haircut isn’t really helping them.

ArchonWing.9480:

It’d be nice to toss in a discount to kick this all off. The gem store often offers discounts on items, so why not here to promote it?

Frankly: wvw is in a broken state.
Like I said before: It has been possible for our non TS pug to kill zergs twice our size in the past. We have been able to defend our stuff against zergs. Nowadays it’s all blobs, golems got buffed dwarfing every other siege, T3 can’t withold the amount of players – there basically is not much more than to fight blob with blob or doing GvG as defending is pretty much impossible. I really think that this is the key to make wvw “fun” again. Because people would learn that they can do stuff without being a blob, because not all hope is lost when being outnumbered and because the fights become interesting again.
If you just shovel players into lower tiers without blobs right now, they really get the impression that their server is dead as they can’t withstand the attacks. So people really think they need to be a zerg/blob to do anything in this game.

I’m sure GvG lers can hinder some servers to move but I don’t think this system is helping them – except if they take over one of the low tier servers, otherwise it will work against them.

lil devils x.6071:

That is the opposite of what just happened. The GVG dropped tiers leaving the ppters and are going to force whatever servers they move to to stay in the GvG tier by rigging the wins. The ppters are on locked servers atm.

I get that, still even t6+ servers can move up, and if it’s more than one you’ll might get a problem.

Edit: Anet should work on that actually. We have got a different matchup system on EU as it seems, we’re 14th playing against 17 and 18th? this week – hasn’t happened to me on NA and that’s not what I see when I look at the NA matchups. I have no idea why it’s different but it would a) create more diversity and b) diffuse plans of GvGlers. (On NA that is)

Edit²: Those who want more servers for their GvG might be locked out before everybody could transfer over – and at some point the plans of taking over this and that server and to hinder this and that server will fail.

lil devils x.6071:

The lower tiers are not locked, they will just take them over and prevent them from moving up as planned keeping their other accounts on the full servers. People should realize that when they had that $10 sale people bought alt accounts like mad.

Yeah on NA, probably, things are a bit fairer on EU.
Still, there’s also the rest of us who don’t really care about GvG – and you can’t be everywhere.

lil devils x.6071:

Those that " left" didn’t technically leave T1, they still have accounts here. They have multiple accounts, and have one of their accounts stacked on YB to artificially move them up. T2 GvG protested this and are taking over other servers and plan to make SURE those servers do not move up. The GVG guilds are intentionally preventing servers from moving up. That has nothing to do with the changes, the changes only make that easier to do.

You “caring less” doesn’t change the reality of the situation created their actions.

Not really, you guys on NA seem to be rather weird, actually, and I was wondering why it was only the first 8 servers left, yet all you do is the “pirate ship meta”.
Here’s what I think will happen: Those who are sick of the “GvG” actions will move to lower tiers and steamroll the tiers above them – I would do so as I like being the underdog and kicking lazy fat blobs – I hope anet will make that easier by buffing defenses and zergfights (stability changes, damage, condis etc etc) – it has been possible once and I hope it will again.
Come to think of it, maybe I should get another account and help my first server out.

lil devils x.6071:

They are moving to make T3 the GvG Tier now to protest the alliance, this was all decided before the changes. The tiers that get chose for this will probably not be happy about the invasion in the end,a s the GvG coming in will be taking them over.

Yes, but now they couldn’t move to these servers anyway as they’re locked, so probably the guilds won’t really be happy either.

lil devils x.6071:

Jana.6831:

Does it really matter whether it’s 5 or 50 who try to stop you soloing a tower?
If it’s 5 non potatos you’ll be dead in a second anyway.

LOL! No you do not always lose 1 vs 5. Depends on who the players are.

I already said that
“If It’s 5 non Potatos” and not everybody outside of your servers is a bad player.

And being on a silver tier server doesn’t mean I haven’t played against gold tier servers.

lil devils x.6071:

You are not really doing the same thing if you are not at risk of being face rolled by an angry mob at any point in time . Avoiding the angry mob and havocs WHILE being effective is part of the challenge roaming on higher tier servers during ANY time of the day or night.

Does it really matter whether it’s 5 or 50 who try to stop you soloing a tower?
If it’s 5 non potatos you’ll be dead in a second anyway.

lil devils x.6071:

Different outside of NA? [Kill] Only runs PST and EU atm. We used to run Sea, but never officially ran NA.

Ok, I missed that, so your server doesn’t have a 24/7 coverage as well? Then it needs to be closed!
(Yeah, I’m scratching my head here)

Edit: I think I will just let this conversation go as I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about – you don’t really seem to know either.

Ok: EU is different than NA, because we don’t have people from CAN, AUS or NA on our servers (with a few exceptions), so EU servers are a ghost town at night. My enemies just started their early morning karma train – before that everything stayed like it was for about 4 hours.
If I know that I will be online at night, I sign up for an NA server when I start this game and that was what I did. And I’m free to transfer to an NA server. I don’t think anyone ever expected all 51 (or even any server) servers to have a 24/7 coverage, that’s some insane idea of the players.

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

Good roamers actually have enemies to fight and run the risk of being face rolled by a mob otherwise they are just PVE’ers on a dead server.

Typical T1 zergling comment right there..

To clear that up: Lil has been on DR which is now at the bottom of NA and then transferred to JQ – The question is: Why did he/her tell us first that he/she soloed a keep on the lower tier server and then a tower from a gold server.. I’m a bit confused here (what has that to do with anything?), and I do wonder why I’m classified as a bad roamer – just because I’m on a lower tier? Who told you I don’t find anyone to fight or that I don’t fight anyone?
It’s pretty hard alone against 5 and that was the case during my 6 hours capping trip – and that has been my second week roaming before that I was a zergling.

lil devils x.6071:

The players not onT1 were the ones complaining about being on dead servers. That is why they locked T1 servers. So if they were so happy playing a dead game, they would not have been complaining and it would not be affecting players on kitten be able to play with their friends and family. As it is now, for me to be able to play with my sister, I would have to make an alt account on a low tier server. So how about you allow the * rest of the players* who do not wish to play on a dead server not play on a dead server then instead of trying to punish servers for being better than others?

I have deliberately never been to T1, whether NA nor EU (fourth server I’m on) – it wasn’t me complaining, it was some T9 (EU) players who complained. I’m somwhere T5 and fine with how things are.
But nonetheless something had to be done – if you look atthe NA standings it looks as if everybody moved to the top 8 servers and that was it. 1800 gems is quite a lot and I think most if not all NA servers have been classified as “very high” before this change. So, if I have to pay 1800 gems anyway, to which server do I want to go? To a lower tier which is probably about to die, or to as high as possible? If I have to pay 500 gems, I might give the lower tier a shot – unless there’s a risk that the other server I would transfer to might be locked sometimes in the future – we don’t know yet how long servers will be locked – I read something about active population, so if your wvw has got enough active members to produce queues “24/7” then your server will stay locked. And rightfully so as hanging around in a queue is not playing and you just educated me about “not being able to play”.
You’re free to transfer – it just became a lot cheaper. And btw: Your and other servers have been locked for quite a while, they were open for a few mins a day max.
Give a lower Tier server a shot, or let your sister play on a different server. My best friend and I met one the same server but I transferred soon after, twice actually, we’re happy on our servers and even play together as opponents this week – which is fun – lots of duels and he’s making friends from my server

Get out of your bubble and learn that there is more to wvw than you think, just like the people from “dead servers” who think there’s nothing they can do.

lil devils x.6071:

Massively multiplayer games are for massively multiplayer combat ( GW2 is a MMORPG). IF people want to play solo , that is what Single player rpgs are for. This IS a massively multiplayer game so you should expect it to be.

Empty games = dead games. Yes, you may like dead games, but that isn’t how a company stays in business.

How about you stick to your T1 server and be happy to have a 24/7 coverage while you leave the rest of us to play our wvw?
(One of the reasons I’ve never been to a gold server – they seem like tiny bubbles to me).

Edit: Oh and btw: I tried to explain to you that all EU servers (except maybe T1) don’t have a 24/7 coverage. And can’t have.

lil devils x.6071:

Closing the other servers doesn’t solve the problem. The problem is whenever a player logs in they should have a team to play with and enemies to fight against, and be able to actually play rather than wait to play. If the game does not accomplish that, either the game is dead or broken.

That might be ideal for you but I like to solo roam, I like the small scale in the morning, I like the zergs during the day, I like the blobs in the evenings.

I have been once to a server I loved a lot. And they were on the verge of breaking apart and I didn’t want them to lose hope. I have been the only one who was in wvw for 6 hours. And I capped camps for 6 hours non stop. I had a blast, believe it or not – I had to be strategic because the enemies were chasing me, so I planned which camps to cap next.
I’m still really good and fast at capping camps because of the times when I tried to keep my server alive (which failed, but that’s another story).

And someone else said it: Even is boring.
And: Things are a bit different outside of NA

yolo swaggins.2570:

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Give me a stick, I want to beat that horse too.

Unload can be cast 3 times in a row. That would be 24 stacks of vulnerability without any more effort. So, I just need to spam unload, switch to D/X, stealth with blinding powder and get a backstab in for about 16-20k? I don’t like brainless weaponskills. Not saying that there aren’t any of them around, but I still hope those will be changed eventually.
No real opinion on your other ideas as I don’t use the traits, I only use my P/P against some world bosses.

My skills miss everything tonight in wvw (and also pve – although it’s worse in wvw probably because the opponents don’t move in pattern) -it hasn’t been that bad for a while.
Also I’m backstabbing people from the front and not backstabbing them from the back – and they really stand with the front to me while I dish out a proper backstab (a buddy of mine the other day) – it’s so weird, really.
My internet connection has got no packet loss, btw, and a constant 35 ping.(With my pingplotter, I usually don’t look at my in game ping).

Edit: Seems quite back to normal (no one on the maps besides me) and I always forget to say my server which is Gunnar’s Hold.

Notsoperky.4291:

On that logic, breathing air is an option- in theory you can breathe water…

Know why I left servers? (I’m on my fourth right now) because the people were bitter kittens who wanted to disable server transfers so they have a higher population and who sat around in a keep watching it being taken by the enemies because there was no commander around and who blamed each and everybody to be the reason why wvw sucks for them.
It doesn’t help if you guys from lower tiers start thread after thread showing the exact same behaviour as I wouldn’t want to join your “community”
And although I’m a wvw solo roamer who upgrades quite a lot I am pretty rich – even with only wvw I would be at 80 gold in 3 weeks max.

ViolentOyster.7534:

Playstyle: Spvp/Pve
Server: Gunnars hold.

If you want to start wvw and need help, give me a shout =)

lil devils x.6071:

1) Reduce the number of servers to only the amount of servers that have 24/7 coverage. Any server who does not have enough 24/7 coverage is closed

Great Idea – We’ve got 4 time zones in the EU, so you want to shut down all EU servers.
Or leave the 2 that have people from CAN, AUS, NA playing on them.
Or: The EU players would be forced to play on NA servers with a ping of ~200-400. You really thought this through, right?

Depends on what the patch should have fixed.
If I’m not mistaken it’s to prevent some sort of freezing when the map has been open for a while. Which has never occured to me, I think.
My Cloak and Dagger seem to hit more often (they would miss up to 70% of the times) but I’m not sure if that is coincidence. I had no disconnect since the patch and not before actually. My problem really was/is that my skills were very slow and that I would miss everything – that no matter whether against npcs or enemy players.
Testing some more.

I won against a Diamond Invader mesmer today – after soloing a 250 camp – as a D/D thief.
Anet always tries to nerf my OPness, but all they can do is to nerf my favourite class. Sorry I dragged you into this, guys.

Edit: (The Diamond Invader was really bad – maybe he usually mains a warrior or guardian or leads EotM karma trains)

ScribeTheMad.7614:

What I don’t understand is why its not free to transfer to Low servers.
Seems like it would encourage people spreading out.

Maybe because they had no means to measure it yet.
It was probably queue bound, so those servers that have a queue on each map every day went full, those who have got queues on 1 or 2 maps to very high, those who’ve got 1 queue once a week to high and there’s not much less than once a week.
Also free transfers rarely did any good.
Lets wait and see how everything turns out. This is no quick fix and can’t be but at least something has been done.

Edit: For those who don’t know what kitten queues I mean: WvW.

“28/7 EU 8 servers whent Full!”

On the plus side: Most EU servers were “very high” before this patch, even those who are now medium. And that is a difference. So maybe some guilds give these servers a shot and transfer there. Or: Guilds that wanted to leave will stay as the servers they wanted to go to are full.
We don’t know how long these servers will be locked, maybe anet doesn’t know themselves, but for now nothing has really changed, except that lower tier servers have got a better chance of “new” members.