Guild Wars 2

Tarhana.3561:

SO I end up alt+f4 in the games because I lost 10 times ( yes you heard that right) in a row on when my team scores 400s , and sometime I even get on the top 2 or 3 on the score but I CAN NOT GET OUT OF THE LOSING STREAK

If you CAP a point, keep it up. If it’s contested, prevent the CAP.

If you CAP point and run in circle, you will lose all your matches.

If your soloq guyz act like you, you will get that kind of result.

To carry matches, you need 2 points to win, keep them up.

Usually, it’s not the top 1, 2 or 3 glory point guyz that carried your match to victory. It’s the none selfish guy, holding a point that make you win games.

jessiestiles.9437:

Pro players aren’t as good as they think they are if they can’t win a 50/50 balanced match. This is what low MMR people are told if they can’t get out of amber when they’re predicted to lose. So if you are pro and can’t get out of amber in a 50/50 situation then you are probably where you are meant to be.

…

You know that into Diamond and Legendary many PRO players got a win loose ratio of 50%?

The MMR Hell is true for all division, not just amber.

So basically, a soloq guy going to Legendary, will probably stop playing into Legendary if he got a trash MMR because loosing versus top team all night, is boring.

Aether the Nob.9172:

I’m in T6 diamond. Since starting T4, I have had 30 min long queues or more (besides games where the 10 people re-queue at the same time).

The only way for me to reliably get a queue pop is to party with people who are below my division, which makes it easier for matchmaking to find the rest of the 10 players. But that obviously puts me at a disadvantage, because I have to queue with a lower ranked player, who is also not benefiting himself by helping me.

Its pretty clear this is bullkitten. Am I THAT much better than the division lower than me that I cannot be queued with Ruby players if there are not enough diamonds?

Please fix this, I have easily spent 2x my actual playtime in queues this season. Yes, I’ve tried re-queuing, and I’ve tried letting it run. There just aren’t enough players for me to queue with. I honestly have never been this frustrated at Anet, or matchmaking in general, than I am in these 1 hour+ queues.

Division system is flawed because it’s based on GRINDING wins.

They need to revert all the division and league stuff, GRINDING is bad for a skill based games.

They should do something like:

Remove PIPS from the LEAGUE.

Put back the OLd MMR 2014 skill based system.

Give Legendary to the top 1 to 200, Diamond to 201 to 400, Ruby to 401 to 600, Sapphire from 601 to 800, Emerald from 801 to 1000 and Amber are unranked.

So, you will get your BADGE and Legendary stuff REALLY for your SKILLS and not because you GRIND the SLOT MACHINE.

Anet will need to change some of the achievement because obviously people will go DOWN from one Division to the others and goes UP way more. But it was really feeling good to get WINS versus Rank 200 or less players.

That way, you will not have to wait for people to grind wins into your DIVISION.

LordCanti.7124:

Well that didn’t answer my question. ;_;

I am not sure what to answer to your question. Won’t do any good?

How can I know if you would be good with MISTCORE or if MISTCORE would be good to you?

Perhaps, since I main French as first language, I did miss the “expression cultural reference” to your question.

The amount of poisons sources is higher than in 2013.

Healing is harder since hoT.

Warrior players switch to Engi, Rev or DH for somewhat related play style.

Warrior is useless and trash and garbage (your words, I don’t play that since shoutbow nerf) because Revenant is way better on all front.

REV have better mobility, better burst, better sustain, better boons to their team (regen, protection, fury, might), good access to stability (some warrior can get it easier on that front)….

When you know when to dodge, to rotate and the strength of all meta classes, class switching is EASY when you pass from the underdog class to the overpowered one.

But please, keep whining and moaning cause without you Warriors would get forgotten.

All system that RANK you because you GRIND games are bad.

All system that RANK you because you WINS versus better players are good.

The perfect solution would be:

Remove PIPS from the LEAGUE.

Put back the OLd MMR 2014 system.

Give Legendary to the top 1 to 200, Diamond to 201 to 400, Ruby to 401 to 600, Sapphire from 601 to 800, Emerald from 801 to 1000 and Amber are unranked.

So, you will get your BADGE and Legendary stuff REALLY for your SKILLS and not because you GRIND the SLOT MACHINE.

Anet will need to change some of the achievement because obviously people will go DOWN from one Division to the others and goes UP way more. But it was really feeling good to get WINS versus Rank 200 or less players.

Pakkazull.6894:

Aktium.9506:

Jourdelune.7456:

So, you will get your BADGE and Legendary stuff REALLY for your SKILLS and not because you GRIND the SLOT MACHINE.

:)

The #1 player on the old leaderboards was a turret engi back when that was a thing with a 48% or so win percentage who got there by grinding matches though.

I don’t think the old leaderboards had anything to do with MMR though? He’s saying the top 200 MMR players would be in legendary, 201 to 400 in diamond, etc.

It was 100% based on MMR.

If you were rank 1 in the leaderboard, it means you did win versus the previous rank 1 guy.

When you did soloq into the TEAM rank queue, (it was possible) your MMR was matching with the team you did join up and the enemy team was into your MMR range.

Since 2015, ANET is giving US GRINDING GAME to RANK up that is way different than SKILL based RANK relate to your MM games.

Aktium.9506:

Jourdelune.7456:

So, you will get your BADGE and Legendary stuff REALLY for your SKILLS and not because you GRIND the SLOT MACHINE.

:)

The #1 player on the old leaderboards was a turret engi back when that was a thing with a 48% or so win percentage who got there by grinding matches though.

You are wrong. Turret engi was a thing in TEST SEASON 1 and TESt SEASON 2 grinding stuff.

Old leaderboard system, you coul be top 1 with 30 games played because you did win versus the best teams of the game.

The decay algorithm was not fast enough, so people simple sit on their rank. That was in need to get tuned up.

You know… I would prefer to do the opposite.

Remove PIPS from the LEAGUE.

Put back the OLd MMR 2014 system.

Give Legendary to the top 1 to 200, Diamond to 201 to 400, Ruby to 401 to 600, Sapphire from 601 to 800, Emerald from 801 to 1000 and Amber are unranked.

So, you will get your BADGE and Legendary stuff REALLY for your SKILLS and not because you GRIND the SLOT MACHINE.

:)

Greetings,

I want to know how people would switch to comp versus 3 necro.

I would dare to say 2 ele aurashare meta build to aoe condi removal + 1 scrapper + 1 rev (counter to necro, right?) + 1 necro.

Please, bring all theocrafting you want, with min max in mind!

Got some great new members. We are still recruiting!

supa suop.8026:

Greetings,

I should start off by saying that my goal during this PvP season is to get to Ruby rank with only the use of my thief. Now I am by no means a “Pro” PvP player I would like to think of myself as a “slightly above average” PvP player.

Toady I was trapped in what many have called the MMR hell. This hell in particular was Sapphire Tier 3, and the matches were going back in forth. I would win one match then lose two, win another three then lose four. I would always get so close to going up to the next tier then be dropped right back down to square one. But finally after this vicious cycle that lasted for 10+ hours straight(with 15 min break between every 3 matches or so) I managed to climb into Tier 4, and KITTEN did it feel good.

I know things are going to continue to get difficult, but I cant give up now! This MMR hell may anger me to no end, I may be stuck there for days, BUT IT CAN’T BREAK MY SPIRIT!!!!!

And on that note i’m going to sleep. Good luck to all other PvPers out there. May the odds be in your favor( or some kitten like that)

One day, is not HELL.

HELL is when it is constant over more than 1 week.

Foogison, here is MISTCORE.

Take time to see if it’s for you, but we seek the same requirement:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/lookingfor/MIST-CORE-LFM-CORE-or-Leader-SPVP-players/first#post6014595

In case you got those requirement, I guess we can do some matches on Ts together to see how it goes?

Vague Memory.2817:

Unfortunately if you don’t scream and shout the devs don’t take any notice. Look at how most Warrs handled getting knocked off the top spot. They flamed and abused (breaking pretty much every forum rule with no consequences) anyone who suggested they were overstating how bad warr was for months. I even had Warrs abusing me in game for daring to suggest that the class was still more than viable on the forums. What did they get. They got buffed, while Mes got nerfed into the ground because of one dumb build. This is how the devs try to balance the game. The louder and more obnoxious you are gets results, and the more civilised and more constructive you are gets nerfed. Fact.

I did main bunker guard (5k games on guard). We got nerfed over nerfed for 2 years before passing off meta.

People did complain with valid argument, solutions and anything else.

They did over nerf the build in removing the attributes points from trait lines (summer patch 2015).

Now… well.. no amount of QQ would bring back bunker guard.

We (the mesmer) did bring some concerns to the dev and Gaile. We need to wait to get something out of it…

But… I think we didn’t protect enough our beloved OP build when all the QQ was raging to nerf bunker alacrity mesmer.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

The main reason for that is that it is highly unfair to players who join and learn quickly. Their skill level will climb much faster than their MMR can, since the MMR of your opponents is factored in to your change.

At 0 (or 1) MMR, it could literally take them years to even reach an average rating.

This is really unfair for average MMR players to get new player in their team.

This means, to get average is way harder than being lower average or better than average.

This can bring any avg mmr player into MMR hell because of that thing.

They did put that avg MMR to new player, to help better than average MMR player buy a second BOX to play with people without “lowering” their high MMR status.

All top players did pay for a second and third account, to keep their inflated high MMR.

Even… everybody after rank 20, can troll ranked team with second FREE account without much problems…

New players should have 25% MMR (just enough to not get into MMR hell of the scrubs) not 50%.

We are still looking for established (500+wins in rank or team queue) or team leader pvp players.

There is no bunker meta.

1 cleric amulet into a COMP is not a bunker META.

To counter a cleric build, you need poisons + cc chain + condies.

Reaper condi meta counter ele.

Scrapper CC counter ele.

Nikola.3841:

Real problem here is probably how to differentiate between real DC and fake one

The real problem here, is person in your party or in your team but not your party have two different solutions.

If you invite a guy in your party and he left (DCed or ragequit) the party is penalized. While a random soloq will not penalized your party.

But more than often, it’s a connection issues from some server… so, it’s bad to have two differents solutions for the same collectivity problem.

Greetings everybody from North America!

MISTCORE is a core / hardcore TPVP no rep require guild created in June 2013 on NA servers.

Minimum required for this recruitment phase:

1- Having wins 500+ rank or team pvp matches.
or
2- Group leader that run mostly SPVP match with a guild/team.

Most of our players are people that have hundreds of “TEAM” games played at all level of play. (mid-tier to top-tier, with a minority of really good 1v1 players with less rotation experiences)

We like to ask people when we need a fifth for our TEAMs. MISTCORE is the place to find people who like to pug (play with new team) that can deliver success to your objectives. Better than any random choice around! (whisper people available is the way to go, they like to get asked!)

We have an alliance with ESP, Emc (Thane) and TFS (Impact) and are looking for more dedicated pvp group leader into our alliance. (I want to run one or two nights with the team to bring the leader into MISTCORE with an Ally Leader rank)

MISTCORE did host Absolute Legends, Apex, Select Few, Being OP is Hard, Team USA, Team PUMA, DnT, BKB, YOLO and many other team/pvp guilds in the past. Welcome to all team into our Alliance of pvp players.

We are recruiting other players like us, that pass more than 75% of their time, TPVPing.

Our guild passed many changes over the time but it’s still strong for that kind of “niche”. (remade the rank system with the new leaderboard (December 2014), kick some “inactive” low skills players, have a more cautious recruiting method to cater to mid-tier and up)

Trolls, Drama queen and haters (trash talkers) are usually kick from the guild. We want to win with a good competitive attitude, not a trash zone of abusive people who can’t express themselves properly. (please send screenshot to me, if you are witness of those forbidden guild behavior)

TS is required, microphone optional (but really mandatory to run serious stuff with me and many other members).

Send me a Private Message on the forum with your PVP panel stats screenshot (you can use any hosting picture website) and account_name.XXXX to give me some idea of who you are and some text to say what you want into a large (164 members – 100 active) tpvp guild.

I rarely blind recruit people up and I will not take everyone who want a place into it.

Our Established pvp players rank (and up) have 500+ wins into Team or Rank pvp games. So this is the minimum required, for this new recruiting phase.

Be ready to be ask for some unranked ride with TS mandatory (for try out) before getting a rank (other than new player, playing like a noob can give you the cold streak rank until you prove you can play good enough).

Thank you for your interest.

Tl -dr: We recruit people with 500 wins+ into team or rank spvp matches and we are looking for team leaders that are looking for more people for their team.

We are no rep required guild with hardcore or core pvp players.

Send me your pvp panel screenshot in private message with your account_name.XXXX and a text for what you are looking for into a pvp guild.

Serval.6458:

The devs chose to include stunbreaks and stability as hard counters to CC skills and you can evade/blind/block a lot of them; some games don’t have these options (or they’re much more limited than in GW2) and use diminishing returns/immunities instead.

I don’t think we need both.

Counters to CC or heavy CC team exist.

Since you have a great experiences into thousands of pvp games since 20 years, I will let you discover how to counter it by yourself.

One of the worse CC meta was the 3 turret engi team. In MISTCORE, we did found many compositions to neutralize all that CC.

More than half the classes bring strong AOE counter to CC.

Over 10 matches, I got 4 even matches. 3 versus premade with my trio queue. I finished the night with 8w – 2l.

There is two thing to consider.

High MMR player uselly are good and play a lot… so they raise divisions a lot.
No life players that grind and grind are not usually good and don’t have a good MMR.

So, if you are grinding and your MMR is not good, you will be FOOD for high MMR team players.

Mostly, at ruby grinders will stop progressing. So ruby will get you a lot of low mmr player (if you are low as well). So your grinding dream will stop.

It’s at diamond or more that we will be able to wish for better MMR players… but even that, will not cut it through high MMR one. Mid tier players will still be FOOD for high MMR farmers.

There is no perfect system.

Come back next week, you will have a 50% win rate.

Last Season the best Meta bunker build was bunker mesmer. It was a blast to play and way more awesome than our beloved bunker guard build.

This season, the df aurashare build play like bunker guard but with more CC and Pressure. It’s a bit harder to play right compare to bunker guard, but it’s the best bunker build right now.

I did played 3k games at mid to high level of play with bunker guard and I missed the build a lot. But… well, since META change… I did prosper with shoutbow before it was meta in 2014 to replace bunk guard, played healing bomb decap engi in 2015 before june, than mesmer bunker before HoT (and after it). now… my old beloved 2012 Aura share ele build is back with some great HoT twist..

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Conquest

After reading all threads, Mesmer got a nice F5 meaning the rune of Lyssa or the rune of Leadership can be interesting to remove more conditions.

I’ve seen some people running the mirror heal with the rune of revenant (give resistances on heals)

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Rune_of_the_Revenant

Well of eternity + Null field are great one after the other.

StickerHappy.8052:

Mesmer Inspiration Line

This is such a required traitline for condition removal (with the state of conditions in the game). Mender’s Purity and Restorative Illusions. Yes you can take null field or Cleanse Mantra but we gotta remember, Any decent mesmer MUST run portal. So 2 slots left. 1 Will be left for a Stun Breaker. and the other should be a condition removal. Cleanse Mantra is Very Clunky to use, Null field is such a long CD and the condition Removal is not instant. You can still get condi bombed.

Solution: Make condition removal be located on weapon sets like Ele Earth Focus 4 or Thief Sword so You are not pigeonholed into running Inspiration

It’s why condi builds play best with Torch.

Can we have PVE itemisation please?

ANET simply have to balanced diminishing return, weapon coefficient, healing power coefficient and other stats with soft caps or hard cap.

ANET do it for PVE, why not doing it for PVP?

ANET are removing builds options since 2015. The game was above average on build customization for sPvP before that… now, it’s really “blend”.

Please ANET, STOP creating the META. In all great game, META is made by players who build versus it. Magic the Gathering let people create DECK to BEAT the META. Gw2 spvp competitive players, builds to get the best optimum build not the build to beat meta… because with all the cut on customize you do… we CAN’T adjust to META anymore.

So, ANET you are creating the META while all Esport community create their own.

…

I want PVE itemisation into SPVP.

MadRabbit.3179:

It’s still apples to oranges to some extent.

I don’t think the success of MOBAs is necessarily linked to their business model, though I am sure it has something to do with it.

The combat mechanics in games like DOTA 2 and LoL are very different and I think overall just lead to a more skill intensive game.

While that’s debatable, I don’t think it’s debatable that the combat is substantially slower and easier for viewers to track. I think this is a huge factor into why it’s succesfull.

A lot of the top games with huge competitive scenes have this in common.

Hearthstone is a stragetic card game where you can easily track every player as a viewer. The game is arguably not competitve, because of all the RNG, but that’s why it has such a high number of viewers. Matches are unpredictable and the RNG mechanics interact in ways that create one in a million type events. You can watch a game of Hearthstone and you’ll never see that same game again.

Starcraft is real time stragety game with a huge ESL scene. There is a channel on twitch that does nothing, but stream Starcraft tournament runs 24/7. It’s a very hard, skill intensive game that requires a lot of APM, but the overall game is still slow enough for viewers to understand the plays.

The same applies to LoL and DoTA 2. Just slower paced combat that’s also more skill intensive.

GW2 doesn’t have any of that. The fact paced second to second combat is an intensive playing experience, but god awful to watch. It’s a blue of particle effects that make seperating out the individual skills being used by players nearly impossible. Even as a player who has played for 3 years and understands the game, watching it is incredibly boring since half of the time I don’t know what is going on in a match as a whole and less so in individual fights where I have to stare at an action bar and track cooldown usage to try and get an idea of what skills they just used.

It’s even worse given that a lot of people playing the game don’t understand basic stragetic tactics being used in maps like “rotating” and the lack of availability of that information makes it incredibly difficult for a potential viewer to learn and understand just what is going on or why certain things are significant and deserve a “ooo” or a “awwww”

Even player roles in matches like “bunker” are player defined terms and not actual roles built explicitly into the game mechanics itself.

These games in question have streamers that average 20k viewers and the viewership on tournaments on single streams average into the 40-50k. At any given time, a GW2 streamer exceeding triple digits is rare and the tournaments rarely go heavily into the thousands.

You break it off into it’s own game using a model like MOBAs do and it will never achieve the critical mass needed to support itself, because it’s not an interesting eSport to watch.

Your arguments seems good. But the objective here is not to have more streamers. Like you said, it’s not great to watch.

The objective is to capitalize on accessibility, because this is the major factor to have a strong PLAYER BASE.

Let’s say that the Heart of the Mist stand alone game, bring 400 000k players right of the bat. Let’s say the retention rate is 10%. Well, the 40k player base would be actually 10 times bigger than now.

This would put ANET into another mindset about how to invest into the game. Actually, spvp seems “lack luster” in DEV ressources… well… with 4k players… what else they could do?

With my 400k estimated, I am way way way lower than LOL or DOTA or other MOBA out there…

It’s probably more into the 4 millions you could get.

MMORPG are something. Nice Gw2 is a MMORPG. But they put a MOBA into it. And they didn’t market for it. It’s why we have a low population into it.

SPVP should be sold has a MOBA, whatever it’s F2P or B2P. It need to get a small download footprint and some accessibility to the F2P crowd on Earth.

Gaile Gray.6029:

A message from the PvP Team:

The Vigilant and Crusader amulet were removed today. We had intended to remove these amulets with yesterday’s kick off to Season 2 but a bug prevented that change from going through. Here is what we previously stated, which still holds true:

“We removed several PvP amulets from rotation because they pushed gameplay in a direction that we weren’t happy with. These amulets were then replaced with four new four-stat amulets, none of which has either Toughness or Vitality as a primary stat.”

We currently have no plans for any additional changes to amulets for Season 2 (including removals or additions), but we will continue to monitor amulet use in relation to the state of PvP throughout this season and may make other changes to amulets for future seasons as needed.

Can we have PVE itemisation please?

You simply have to balanced diminishing return, weapon coefficient, healing power coefficient and other stats with soft caps or hard cap.

You do it for PVE, why not doing it for PVP?

You are removing builds options since 2015. The game was above average on build customization for sPvP before that… now, it’s really “blend”.

Please, STOP creating the META. In all great game, META is made by players who build versus it. Magic the Gathering let people create DECK to BEAT the META. Gw2 spvp competitive players, builds to get the best optimum build not the build to beat meta… because with all the cut on customize you do… we CAN’T adjust to META anymore.

So, ANET you are creating the META while all Esport community create their own.

…

I want PVE itemisation into SPVP.

The only problem with having MMR only for your team and not the opposing team is:

“New Ranked Player have a fixed Average MMR, this bring true average MMR players to get way more lose than it should”

Anet need to give lower than average MMR, I would say 25% of top MMR, not 50%.

It seems that I am not in that category, got 8 wins and 2 loses versus renown top players.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Wolfric.9380:

Clear

1 You start at average MMR. Get the three newbies that are set to average by default.
2 You lose.
3 MMR goes down as the newbie MMR also does.
4 System pairs you according MMR again. (Within same ranking)
5 Woot more subpar players.
6 you loose
7 Goto 3

So as long as you don´t win and get pip´s you are going down…

8. MMR goes to low enough value that your team can defeat the enemy. At this point, players well above your skill level are outside of your pip search range.

9. win match and MMR goes up some.

10. Player wins some more and eventually gets to level in which they cannot win guaranteed.

11. lose match and MMR drops some.

12. Wins or lose next few matches, MMR is stable. You are at your intended rank equal to your skill level.

13. System is working as intended. return to step 10.

False for your step 8.

Now, your enemy team got more MMR than you. So you are still losing.

The new system find random on your MMR but the enemy team is random.

Actually, giving medium MMR to new player is destroying MMR of average players.

Because average players MMR will lose games with NOOBS on their team.

Anet need to quickly fix that HOLE to their new system.

Till then, please TEAM Queue in amber/emerald division.

Quoting:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/The-reason-we-are-Mad-We-re-Average/first#post6003207

Clearly, another smurf tactics but… its made by ANET. So better than average MMR say thank you ANET we are riding win streak because of your error.

Dal

p.s. I didn’t play any games, yet.

UmbraNoctis.1907:

I don’t think, MMR calculation has changed. If you get matched against higher MMR, you are expected to lose and your MMR won’t be affected (it is still independent from division/pips).

It’s way more complicated than that.

Last season, the pips wins even if you lost a game… was some reflection about how you can gain MMR even if you lose versus some teams.

For Season 2, Anet did stop using MMR to find match versus other team, this is supposed to give better queue time…. but, at the end, it will destroy the sPVP casual population.

Odd since Anet cater to casuals since launch.

Swagger.1459:

Jourdelune.7456:

Thank you all for your +1. Keep them coming on OP post.

For all balanced issues, please… stay on topic. This is a thread about offering sPVP to the MOBA market. Nothing more, nothing less.

Here is your moba from ncsoft… Even has GW2 npcs.

http://www.playmxm.com/en/

??? And you other post… I don’t care about NCSoft or MOBA.

I care about sPVP being a choice for MOBA players.

Everybody else:

Keep the +1 on OP post going, please. Make that thread live for months.

Dal

Malediktus.9250:

Aomine.5012:

Season 1 is MUCH rougher.

Season 2 so far is a breeze.

Aside from Reaper, classes are pretty balanced atm too.
There’s no unkillable spec currently.

You got lucky. That is all. Or not soloQing

Not lucky. He got the privilege to have a better MMR than the average joe.

Serval.6458:

The official season 2 page says:
“We’ll search for other players that fall within your pip range (which can extend outside of your division depending on where you’re currently placed) and pair you up with teammates who have a similar skill level to your own. We’ll then find you opponents within that same pip range and pair them against you, regardless of their skill level.”

Please give us back old leaderboard system of 2014. It was way better than anything you tried to stuck down our throats since then.

Or Join MISTCORE if you got enough games in you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GuildWars2PvPTeams/comments/46f8l1/na_guild_mistcore_looking_for_more_established/

Sound Like you got someone DC’ed or quit the game too fast before the end?

January 26, 2016 Balanced patch, did change a lot about the bunker quickness META.

The changes over the bruisers amulet to amulet with more dps, less sustain is great.

Now, we have a clear DPS, Bruisers and Bunker/Support trinity based on amulet.

QQ all you want, I would had love more fine tuning, but it’s way better now than it was in December 2015.

Anet will give us new specialization down the road, before the next expac… this will help to balanced more than 1 viable build per class we all want to have.

Let’s see how Season 2 turns out. And hope they can buff unused things into spvp, so we can get more viable build for our game mode.

Dal Éthernel

Fivedawgs.4267:

Might feel one sided or whatever, but it’s player responsibility to turn it into what they want. As far as reddit is concerned, I tried to stay away from it, it’s utterly negative and opposing opinions do not get to be seen/heard/read.

Somewhat I agree.

The https://www.reddit.com/r/GuildWars2PvPTeams/ don’t have much negative or opposing opinions…

It’s a list for team, guild and players looking to play competitively or league.

We can’t create sub-forum on gw2. So, the community like you said, is doing it on reddit.

Dal

Here is a great opportunity to put The Heart of the Mist on Android.

http://androidcommunity.com/soulcraft-franchise-outs-cross-platform-moba-game-20150327/

“And yet here we are once more with another addition to the SoulCraft family – this time a MOBA (multiplayer online battle arena) game called Heroes of SoulCraft – that is interesting enough to look at because of its cross-platform premise.”

Having a small download footprint or making a stand-alone spvp would help to make it available over Android.

For sPvP Android would be a blast. The games are short and can be consumed on bus ride or at the offices break or launch. Almost anyone got an Android phone or tablet… not all have a PC.

So, going for the MOBA model could open up a new opportunities to get players from other successful multiplayer online platform.

Dal

Who are you? What is your pvp experiences?

No, but I want a meta where all classes got 3 viable build for each role (DPs roamer, sustain bruisers and bunker/support).

I want more option (not less).

So, let me use the trait line, like I want. Let me customize my attributes like in PVE and WvW. Then balanced the things with pvp mind set for diminishing returns, stats caps and soft caps.

Dal

arkaxify.3258:

Valkyriez.6578:

there’s no pvp specific forum, where as the subreddit can be pvp specific.

You are… in the pvp… specific… forum…

I Guess he want to say there is no pvp recruiting forum.

We see post into the pvp forum of people looking for more for sPvP. Those post are mostly ignore and goes down to the page 2 or more super fast.

The sub reddit, give you on the first page, the last need or offer for the month.

For my old team, I had 30 try out from reddit, 2 from pvp forum. I did ask Grouch (he never answer anything) about why the sticky post to the sub-reddit is deleted.

But the gw2 forums Looking for or PvP forum are not good to “recruit” spvp players.

Dal Éther Boom

This is a meta choice and should be swap depending on your opponent team comp.

If they got a lot of resilient conditions builds, you switch to mercenary. If they are light on condi aoe classes, you take wanderer.

Wanderer burst easier but is countered by META anti-condi builds.

Look at Noscoc play. He always adjust is build on the fly.

Quick OP fix:

1- Ele Bruisers and DPS build are trash tier.
2- Ele support are tier 1.

Playing Cleric Ele is not easy. If your guyz dies around you, it’s your fault. If you think you simply have to put all your support on CD… you are bad.

Support is the hardest role to play right. All your team need your peels, heals, cleanses and support/utility at the right time. You need to play reactively. This is way more harder than playing “dd ele fire summer 2015 build” spam your spells to think you are good when you are carried by an Overpowered Build.

Support need the best communication from their team to perform at the right level. Everybody team blame their bunker when they lost a team fights… not the position of their DPS squishies overextending off points…

*Cleric Ele got a nice balanced between CC chain, Peelz and utilities. *

Now, it’s time to ask for a BRUISERS and DPS viable build, not to NERF the only working viable build you guyz got.

Fay.2357:

Honestly, I’d find a new game if I were you. Anet has literally come out and said that they don’t want bunkers in PvP. They’ve removed bunker amulets, nerfed bunker skills, and probably are going to do more to remove bunkers thoroughly in the future. If you only want to play bunkers, this is a pretty hostile game environment for you. Even if you do figure out an effective bunker, you can bet it’ll get nerfed as soon as Anet hears about it.

I don’t agree.

Anet need to remove BRUISERS (it’s what they did) that can sustain like BUNKER while doing enough DPS to kill people ine 1v1 in 30 seconds.

The balance bruisers, dps and bunkers/support is better now. I hate the quickness nerf for rez or stomp, but we still get rez and stomp options.

Actually, bunker’s with cleric are balanced. Bruisers bring nice sustain for their 1v1 and can kill something, while bunker rotate on teams fights to make the 3v3+ a breeze with heals/aoe cleanses/aoe boons/cc.

DPS roamers are better for season 2, since they transform all the bruisers OP amulet into balanced bruisers amulet. (except Mercenary, Carrion was enough)

Today, we will surely see something to help more bunkers to emerge from the different classes, not the other way around.

… so beware, when you see Dal on a team, be sure to communicate to your team that you need to split and not doing team fights.

Dal

Fivedawgs.4267:

I don’t need a team, I ll solo queue my way to legebdary. ???? . Just a thought though, wouldn’t it be better for folks to recruit on the forum instead of reddit?

There is one place. That Looking for forum is a pile trash of SPAM. Everybody and their mother bump PvX guild all dayz.

The sub reddit to find a spvp team, is great because it’s directly concern by it. So people can say what they need or offer and it’s easier for all to get a clear picture of what are the opening and how to make themselves known to the sPVP competitive community.

Dal Aï Llama

Silverthorn.8576:

Clerics and all amulets with lot of healing bonus have to go, thats all.

30% of the population that like to play support, need to go, that’s all.

So… the 30% bruisers pop could feel good not being able to kill a bunker with condis?

What??? Yeah a REAPER (Silverthorn.8576 main necro) can’t kill an ele bunker support (on boons) so he want all support build to get delete instead of corrupt just before he need to burst it’s target on fear/chills.

GGWP

Before the june 23 2015 patch, Anet said they were re-working trait lines.

We had the ability to put trait points that was “upgrading” out stats.

They said, if we are destroying a viable build, please report so we can fix our thing.

Well, they destroyed Decap Engi build, Healing Bombs build, Shoutbow Warrior Build, d/f condi ele signet build, bunker guardian build…

The new system wrekt build diversities way more than opening more options to be played. After HoT, the prowercreep did RIP the last build diversities we had…

Well… since 2012… all DEAD META build of the past to NOW should be tweak up to be balanced and viable NOW. That way, we would get way more than 4 options to play META.

But well… ANET prefer to destroy the past to reconstruct something new… so, Not sure if they will buff to viable and not nerf everything to the ground (removal of soldier, sentinel, celestial…).

-=-=-=-=-=- /rant

Now, please open up build diversities in giving sPVP the same stats system than PVE or WvW.

Please give back healing bombs to make those viable again.
Upgrade the shrapnel trait from 15% to 50% chance to condies…