Guild Wars 2

Random.4691:

Ayrilana.1396:

It’s 40 hero challenges within HoT. Even less if you currently have excess hero points. Not a big deal…

No it’s not a big deal to you, it’s a rather large deal to everyone who disagrees, which is the majority. (at least in the forum world)

Hey look, Random is making up random stats. That’s not actually random at all, and is to be entirely expected.

I absolutely do not understand why anyone in their right mind believed they would just good and done without any effort at all. Especially for Revenants who could not possibly have the benefit of world complete skill points (hero points)

Seera.5916:

Halvorn.9831:

Seera.5916:

Halvorn.9831:

Tasao.4623:

Core gameplay should NOT be gated behind a grind.

What are you even talking about? In the core game, don’t you have to level to 80 in order to go to cursed shores? So cursed shores is gated behind a grind as well, isn’kitten

Nope, you can take a low level into Cursed Shore. The boundary doesn’t require you to be level 80.

…and be one-hit by rabbits running around there. Come on, you understand, what I want to say.

There are tomes one can use to bypass leveling if you’re a vet and don’t want to grind out to level 80.

There isn’t going to be anything like that for hero points.

Actually there is. It’s in WvW.

Sylent.3165:

jubov.2037:

You can’t unlock Glint, unless you have unlocked ALL of the core specs/traits/skills.

EDIT

ColinJohanson.2394:

Unlocking your elite spec is a training line in your training panel that costs hero points. You do need to have trained all the existing training lines before you’re allowed to put hero points into your elite spec.

That is so extremely lame. I personally do not like revenant very much but loved herald. So I’m basically stuck doing an insane grind with a class I don’t like, being forced to do content on a character I don’t like, then unlock I character I do like but can’t redo hero points with a class I want to do it on

None of that made sense.
Make a Revenant. Tome it to 80. Spend points on all traits (possibly all skills too) Better if you don’t have to do the skills. But we’ll find out.

Anyway you will still have left over points, put those points into Herald. Now you’re a Herald, at least a little. Just play a Herald and earn points in HoT toward finishing Herald.

If you don’t have to spend points on skills, then you’re in an even better position.

Well, I was coming in to edit my post with that, but of course someone always beats me to it

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/elite-specializations-how-many-hero-points/page/6#post5627999

Just put in a ticket. That’s what I did. I made the case that in order to get the fire backpiece you had to have unlocked the nonfirey version first because the one quest relied on the other quest already being finished.

They gave me the green one.

Nemesis.6938:

Sidenti.6035:

I have a hard time feeling sorry for people who just don’t pay attention. “Unique” means “one of a kind”. If people have questions about what that means, logic dictates finding out before buying.

To the original poster, I suggest just sucking it up. You made a mistake, and that mistake was preventable. Learn from it and grow.

Or don’t. Whatever. I’m not your parole officer. -Sid

i think that comment is rather stupid – why would unique mean you can only equip one? unique would also indicate there exists only one or you can only buy one – your argumentation holds no water wahtsoever – besides, you can have two legendaries which doesnt make any sense either

Guess what. If there exists only one, then obviously you can only equip one, because once you have that one there are no others. If you can only buy one then you can only equip one because once you buy it you can’t ever buy another.

Therefore there is no situation in which you can use more than one of an item labeled unique.

Also, logic dictates than since there is obviously more than one, and you can apparently buy more than one, the only remaining option is that you can only use one.

If you only spend enough hero points to make your build, leaving a gap for Glint, you’ll definitely have enough to spend on Glint.

If you spend enough hero points to make a complete build regardless of Glint, you will probably still have enough left to spend on Glint.

If you buy all possible traits and skills you should not have enough left to spend on Glint.

This is all guesswork, but it’s educated guesswork

Cecilia.5179:

I’m going to expiriment with character designs and color schemes before I insta 80 my rev. Don’t want a level 80 “mistake”

Good call, that’s why I fully built my Revenant’s look months ago, and screenshotted the each page with sliders and selections so I can recreate the look as often as I want.

Level 80

I actually find that rather disappointing. I had always hoped that mini version of Silverwastes was just an artifact for the beta and that the actual silverwastes would be the intro into HoT.

Unless the map you’re actually talking about is the story instance, that happened after Silverwastes but before dropping into the HoT map, but that would be weird.

Swagger.1459:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Hero Points are intended to be a finite resource. That is specifically why all excess skill points were converted into spirit shards. If any options were provided that allows hero points to effectively be bought, by repeated activity, they would no longer be finite and that would defeat the design intent of the new system.

Yes, this “hurts” those who only care about game modes that aren’t open world PvE. Too bad. Open world PvE is what the game is designed around. So suck it up and rush through it, or don’t play an elite spec.

Are you generally late to parties?

Apparently…
As Maxwell Smart used to say, “Missed it by that much.”

Hero Points are intended to be a finite resource. That is specifically why all excess skill points were converted into spirit shards. If any options were provided that allows hero points to effectively be bought, by repeated activity, they would no longer be finite and that would defeat the design intent of the new system.

Yes, this “hurts” those who only care about game modes that aren’t open world PvE. Too bad. Open world PvE is what the game is designed around. So suck it up and rush through it, or don’t play an elite spec.

BIGHARSHNESS.3510:

Linken.6345:

And again why is it so hard for people to whisper and ask what shoulder or chest or helm or weapon someone is wearing?

This. I enjoy getting these whispers personally. I’ve whispered others as well and I’ve always got replies no problem linking the skin.

The answer is that it’s unreliable. Sometimes people will respond, sometimes they won’t. If you could inspect them it wouldn’t matter if they respond because you have the answer at your fingertips.

Answer 1) I used to camp orcs outside of Freeport, it was a lot of fun, it was also extremely dull and exclusive, not inclusive. It didn’t bring the community together, it caused short term cliques. Sure, those guys where your friends for a while, and you might hook up with them again down the line, but they’re just as likely to have nothing to do with you later, or to outpace you so significantly that you’ll never interact again.

Having special ways to get around whole controlled by specific classes and therefor only a fraction of the population is also not endearing. Not when they have free range to charge exorbitant prices for the “service.” We have this to a small degree with Mesmers, but it’s kept in check by their inability to define who can use their portal and who can’t.

Answer 2) What the community needs is more RP features. Give the ability to interact outside of combat and it will actually make a difference, even to people who don’t RP.

Answer 3) I’m content to be a solo player, so I don’t know. I’ve always been in a guild, but I’ve never needed one particularly.

Answer 4) Jumping Puzzles, Collections, Projects that take materials from all over the world and doing missions and other activities in order to complete. I loved Mawdrey. I’m working on Bioluminescence now. I’m especially looking forward to the new Legendary Masteries.

We’re getting three new legendaries at release because of how much effort it takes to put together the legendary masteries. So what about the old legendaries? I haven’t seen anything on this specifically. Do they have all of the old legendaries done or are we going to have to wait for some of them too?

My answer? Too kittening bad for them. They don’t have any more right to maze balm those ambients than you have to kill them for AP, which is what I gathered you meant you were doing.

Also, it’s completely ok to wreck a maze balm farm as long as you’re not just doing it to grief them. ANet has the metrics to see that you’ve been killing ambients for a while and are earning points toward that AP, so again, too bad for those guys. Also, report any of them that harass you, that’s not ok.

Ok, so I’m assuming right off that the answer is no. I haven’t seen any mention of it and I don’t recall it coming up in the pre-order. But, I pre-ordered the base game and very much enjoyed early access, so I’m hoping it will be a thing for HoT.

This information has been available for months. There are innumerable videos, by ANet, explaining how this will work, as well as blogs and third party videos. I don’t know why it’s not thoroughly explained in the wiki, but that’s still no excuse. If you actually want to know about something, how about you actually go out and find the information and learn about it, rather than gleaning a tiny idea of it then coming to rant about it here because you don’t understand it in the first place?

Menadena.7482:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Menadena.7482:

Kal Spiro.9745:

My ideal situation is Elite Spec Masteries, so that you can unlock them once and done. But I suspect it’s a per character thing you have to do in order to unlock them individually.

This has basically always been the case. There was never a situation where you could create a character, tome them to 80 before leaving the starter zone and just be the elite spec.

Of course there is a way to get to 80. For at least the sylvari you can access your bank in the starter zone without even going to the main city (or having the game email you a golem). Since I store my tomes in the bank …

The impression we always got from everything that was said were that we would have access to elites. Of course, people will say ‘they did not say we would not have to do xyz to get them’ to which I counter they never said the reverse. The impression was HOT would give us access to them (I forget the exact wording) and for the BWEs we had elites and revenants to play with.

You 100% missed my point. Obviously you can tome to 80, though I’m not certain why you think Sylvari have this power in a unique way. Anyone who has the delux golem banker can do it.

What I was saying is that there was no situation in which doing that would include the ability to just BE the elite spec right then and there. That was never on the table, regardless of what people deluded themselves into believing.

I think we both have misunderstandings here. I was saying without the golem or going into your racial city at least the sylvari (probably asura too, I need to check the map) have crafting stations in the same zone that you start in.

The implication has ALWAYS been we would have access to the elites on day 1. The BWEs and POIs have spent lots of time showing off the elites so there was no reason to think there would be a delay between HOT launch and elites showing up. Read the posts here from before the final countdown blog and you will see that idea being pretty widespread and nobody said ‘umm, maybe we are wrong’. Whether the unlock would be automatic or with an undetermined number of HPs was the only real question.

Yes, every race has crafting stations in the starting zone, but I was talking about the beginning tutorial zone.

That implication was never made. Anyone who thought otherwise was deluding themselves into believing it. They wouldn’t have called them Elite Specs if there wasn’t going to be something you had to do to earn them. The only question there has ever been was whether you could earn them account wide, or if you had to unlock them per character.

You will also note any of those threads having people pointing out that they would not just get to have them. Perhaps you simply dismissed them and moved on, but they’re there.

I should point out that there is not necessarily a difference between having to earn/unlock something and having access to it on day one. If you can unlock it very quickly then you can have access to it on day one. That doesn’t mean you can just create a character and have access though.

Menadena.7482:

Kal Spiro.9745:

My ideal situation is Elite Spec Masteries, so that you can unlock them once and done. But I suspect it’s a per character thing you have to do in order to unlock them individually.

This has basically always been the case. There was never a situation where you could create a character, tome them to 80 before leaving the starter zone and just be the elite spec.

Of course there is a way to get to 80. For at least the sylvari you can access your bank in the starter zone without even going to the main city (or having the game email you a golem). Since I store my tomes in the bank …

The impression we always got from everything that was said were that we would have access to elites. Of course, people will say ‘they did not say we would not have to do xyz to get them’ to which I counter they never said the reverse. The impression was HOT would give us access to them (I forget the exact wording) and for the BWEs we had elites and revenants to play with.

You 100% missed my point. Obviously you can tome to 80, though I’m not certain why you think Sylvari have this power in a unique way. Anyone who has the delux golem banker can do it.

What I was saying is that there was no situation in which doing that would include the ability to just BE the elite spec right then and there. That was never on the table, regardless of what people deluded themselves into believing.

Yes please!

What rule, exactly, do you think it’s against?

Sariel V.7024:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Sariel V.7024:

There are alternatives. I understand there’s a charr catapult that could get him going 88 mph; all we’d need is a bolt of lightning (or a few good eles), and we’re golden.

Pretty sure you want a Chronomancer

Why? Wouldn’t be nearly as entertaining.

Because it isn’t the speed, nor the power that makes time travel possible, it’s the flux capacitor. Therefore a Chronomancer is the actual key to making the experiment work.

I’m not really clear what you think ANet was ever going to do about this. It’s distasteful, but it’s not against any rules. Also, this has nothing to do with LFG nor the LFG tool.

Sariel V.7024:

Gaile Gray.6029:

Tyloric.7520:

Gaile, I miss the frog. What are your thoughts on the matter?

I miss him too. He’s the best possible traveling and combat companion. He is still working on some sort of “time travel project” with the Asura, but with the crafty Asura continually raising the price, we’ll see how that goes.

There are alternatives. I understand there’s a charr catapult that could get him going 88 mph; all we’d need is a bolt of lightning (or a few good eles), and we’re golden.

Pretty sure you want a Chronomancer

Well, I mean if those are the rules those are the rules. You signed over your soul to the guild when you joined them, so there is definitely no options to go against it.

Why 9 separate accounts? Just why?

Burtnik.5218:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Burtnik.5218:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Burtnik.5218:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Sword 5 is designed to get max damage out of sword 3, and also to eliminate sword 3s only weakness, by letting you pull your target off a wall.

One dodge and your enemy is back to team.. if it was supposed to work this way it would need 1200 range. 600 is nothing when UA has 450 radius.

It pulls them to you, so even if you were out of range of UA you’ll be in range after. It could definitely use an immobilize, though, to prevent what you’re saying.

Huh? I was talking about the fact that you can run 150 meters to teammates/pets or w/e after a pull and call it a day. Honestly this ability cost too much and if they want to keep it this way it should be unblockable at least to rupt shelters, crystal hibernation and so on – btw if it rupt these kind of attacks it doesnt even pull.

Atm outside of block sword is terrible and i considering to run shield like everyone else till they dont fix it..

Not if you’re immobilized you can’t, what is there to misunderstand?

We already have immo on wave. There is still that thing that other teammate/pet can come close scenario so even if we apply immo..it doesnt matter really.

All I’m getting out of this is, there are potential counters therefore it’s trash. Things should have counters, that’s a good thing.

I played human and I never noticed a problem with the sword animations

My ideal situation is Elite Spec Masteries, so that you can unlock them once and done. But I suspect it’s a per character thing you have to do in order to unlock them individually.

This has basically always been the case. There was never a situation where you could create a character, tome them to 80 before leaving the starter zone and just be the elite spec.

I love asymmetrical outfits, so no, I’m in favor.

Burtnik.5218:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Burtnik.5218:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Sword 5 is designed to get max damage out of sword 3, and also to eliminate sword 3s only weakness, by letting you pull your target off a wall.

One dodge and your enemy is back to team.. if it was supposed to work this way it would need 1200 range. 600 is nothing when UA has 450 radius.

It pulls them to you, so even if you were out of range of UA you’ll be in range after. It could definitely use an immobilize, though, to prevent what you’re saying.

Huh? I was talking about the fact that you can run 150 meters to teammates/pets or w/e after a pull and call it a day. Honestly this ability cost too much and if they want to keep it this way it should be unblockable at least to rupt shelters, crystal hibernation and so on – btw if it rupt these kind of attacks it doesnt even pull.

Atm outside of block sword is terrible and i considering to run shield like everyone else till they dont fix it..

Not if you’re immobilized you can’t, what is there to misunderstand?

The one to Rule.2593:

kal the fact that they are entirely different is why im asking, and to answer that, longbow on ranger is far better.

Depends on the situation. When completely surrounded in melee, the greatsword’s cleave and evade is pretty nice to have.

Which was actually my specific point. It’s situational.

Xernth.8561:

Dinks.2478:

People need to calm down, its not that hard. I have one of each class with 214 hero points, it took me like 2 weeks to get every class like that. While you’re all on the forums complaining you could easily spend the next 2 weeks preparing instead. Or you can spend the next 2 weeks complaining and have to do it at launch.

Let me know how I can get hero points for my Revenant so I can WvW with my guild with the Elite spec right now.

Thanks.

People seem to think getting hero points is an accomplishment; especially once you Tome to 80 and deck your toon out in Ascended gear to get them with. Its just a mindless grind, and not having any way to get a reasonable number of hero points in WvW is absurd.

Of course, pretty much everything about rewards and progression in WvW is absurd so its also par for the course.

Easy, level to 80. Done. Oh, one other step, don’t buy everything, only buy the traits and skills you actually need to play your build. Again, done. I should note that it’s very possible that you can’t just BE the Elite Spec because you’re an 80. You will probably have to go into HoT and specifically unlock it for that specific character.

Tricare.2946:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Take into mind that you’ll be unlocking traits and skills to get the whole experience. Personally I think it should be over 100 just for the traits.

I really feel it’s a waste if I don’t use 100% of my hero points for this.

So what you’re saying is I should have to do map completion on every single one of my characters if I want to play the new specialization I just paid $60 for?

I don’t PvE that often, I WvW. Now that gaining lvl’s once you’re 80 doesn’t give Hero Points, over 100 Hero Points is asinine.

Absolutely not, unless you used all of your hero points to unlock every trait and skill, even though you’re definitely not going to use them. I’m probably going to have to do that for two of my characters, but some should be fine, cause I only spent the points I specifically needed for my build.

Orangensaft.7139:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Orangensaft.7139:

yeh im gonna have to ignore HoT to 90% to be able to get all those epic new Halloweenskins
now IF they require farm or even worse.. RNG
i will have to farm for those skins or money for the RNG to get the skins all the time during halloween

rlly stupid to start HoT at the same time
just 1 week later would have helped a lot

Because you will obviously never be able to catch up on the lost time in HoT. The horror!

ofc i will be able to catch up and i dont think i will have any big loss on potential big profits

but the most fun is reaching stuff as the first ones and not when everything is spoiled already
also i wont be able to do it at the same time as my guildies and friends who dont all feel the need to get those skins

i just think they should have delayed HoT for 2 weeks or released 4 weeks earlier than Halloween

Spoiled? Other players really are inconsiderate, leaving their trash on the ground and tagging every spare surface with graffiti . Also giving away the ending to everything, because ultimately they’re all going to finish everything in a week and since it’s nonrepeatable…

Wait… not a single thing I just said is true. You can absolutely do everything in HoT with your guildies, even if they’ve already done it.

The simple truth is, this isn’t about you, nor me. I mean I’ve already been “spoiled” since I did the betas. This is actually for the F2Pers and people who didn’t get HoT. This is also to draw you and me, specifically, away from HoT to reduce potential strain. I don’t even care about the skins, I just want to run my Revenant through the clocktower and the “dungeon?”

I cannot recommend mouse thumb buttons enough for this “problem” It is much easier to use than a keyboard key.

You can absolutely start deleting them. There is nothing stopping you.

I have no idea what you’re talking about in the OP, but I 100% back your decision to arbitrarily delete things on your account.

Take into mind that you’ll be unlocking traits and skills to get the whole experience. Personally I think it should be over 100 just for the traits.

I really feel it’s a waste if I don’t use 100% of my hero points for this.

TheLastNobody.8319:

Muchacho.2390:

TheLastNobody.8319:

Muchacho.2390:

Gliding has a big problem… and that is that you only will be able to glide in the HoT maps…

I hope that sums up well what i think about gliding…

….you hate it and think it should be removed?

That or you think it’s a tuna.

No i am sad that we will only be able to glide in the Hot maps (i want to glide everywhere). I really liked it.

And by the way is “it is a tuna” some kind of phase? (To clearify i am not a native english speaker)

Ah no, it’s just something random I throw out to prevent any potential heated arguement a from coming up. Can never tell on the Internet. I call it defusal humor!

Defusmor

Elric Of Melnibone.4781:

Once you get used to being able to glide it will be sorely missed on all the other maps. How many cliffs will you jump off, hit space, and fall to your death?

So many!

Labjax.2465:

Lauriewonnacott.9841:

I really have no problem with people playing an MMO just for the solo content, but I still don’t understand what solo content you guys want but haven’t received. Help me to understand this for real please, because as far as I can see you’re getting more solo content than any other MMO I’m familiar with and I’m familiar with MANY. They’re adding adventures kitten – the mother of all repeatable solo content. You’ve got the Living Story, which is legitimately a solo narrative experience unlike what’s offered in almost any other MMO. It just seems like you guys are complaining that you aren’t getting enough solo content but your reasoning isn’t “here’s what we wanted but didn’t get”, but rather “here’s what they added for social play, now I’ll conveniently ignore all of the content that is solo to make it look like I’m being slighted”.

I’m pretty content with where it’s at right now, myself. The only thing that’s creeping up on me in annoyance is the thought that, to my understanding, I basically won’t be able to do guild anything anymore on my own. I didn’t do a lot as it is (mostly just collected influence and got a few upgrades) but it’s sounding like even that will be out of reach for me now. (I know I know, here comes the parade of people saying that guilds are for groups.)

I’m just being honest.

Totally understand. I have no interest in joining a guild that can do guild content, BUT I very much enjoyed being able to occasionally participate in that content anyway because a guild happened to be doing it while I was in the vicinity. Now that’s out of the question. If you’re not part of that guild, or have a specific invite to the event, you do not get to participate, at all.

Orangensaft.7139:

yeh im gonna have to ignore HoT to 90% to be able to get all those epic new Halloweenskins
now IF they require farm or even worse.. RNG
i will have to farm for those skins or money for the RNG to get the skins all the time during halloween

rlly stupid to start HoT at the same time
just 1 week later would have helped a lot

Because you will obviously never be able to catch up on the lost time in HoT. The horror!

This is like asking which is better on Ranger, Longbow or Greatsword. They are entirely different.

With one power Staff has really good mobility. Condi cleanse is always a good thing. Staff 2 is questionable. The block is good.

Hammer is a ranged weapon. Taunt is kind of cool. I forget what else it does, it’s been six months since I used it.

OBviously so that you can make a Revenant and immediately jump to the clocktower and spend the rest of the week there.

It’s actually pretty smart because it splits the community, relieving some potential strain on the servers handling HoT zones. But it also gives the people who didn’t buy HoT, and the the F2Pers something to do.

Torvic.8256:

Is it somewhat like gliding (ala Batman), as opposed to flying (ala Superman) in DC Universe Online?

Yes, amazingly gliding is like gliding.

Ghost Bear.5280:

xadine.7069:

I agree, BUT GW1 was NOT an MMO…

Yes it was. It was non traditional, but definitely a Massively Multiplayer Online game.

No, Guild Wars was an Online game with Minor Multiplayer capability and Massively Multiplayer Graphically Intense Chat Rooms.

I’ve been a solo PvE player since early access. I have never experienced a lack of content. In fact, ALL of the content seems to be made specially for me. The lack of content is for anyone how isn’t a solo PvE player.

Runiir.6425:

The largest proof of a lack of communication IS the GvG community.
What was GW1? Oh, that’s right…guild fighting each other and tournament matches.
What is GW? Oh…right…the name is GUILD WARS!
What does GW2 lack? Yup…Guild Wars.

Seriously, it can NOT be that hard to set up a proper GvG queing that checks to make sure everyone that groups up is repping the same guild before they can enter the que list. The maps would even be easy to make! The GvG community wants deathmatches with no respawning…aka the rules they self enforce now! 15v15, 20v20, and 30v30….honestly don’t even need to change the maps, just make them large enough for 30v30 play.

You do get that the name Guild Wars is referential to the lore, right? It isn’t actually what the game is specifically about, regardless of what options might have been available in the first one.

As for difficulty? Everything is hard. If you think it’s easy, you’re almost certainly wrong. That’s how programming works.

thrag.9740:

I’ll give you one right now. I don’t want to only do hero challenges. I want freedom to progress through a multitude of methods. Its a serious problem that anet should address.

Actually it isn’t. It’s only a problem for those that don’t want to do the work and play the game the way it’s being designed.

I don’t want to have to sell junk. I want it to just be converted into gold for me. That’s a serious problem, but I don’t expect ANet to do anything about it because that’s not how they designed the game.