Guild Wars 2

Player Character.9467:

Mist Y.5214:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Seriously? Well, I’ll confirm this once I get one of them to 60, until then it doesn’t matter.

Well you’ll be missing out on the opportunity to spend your trait points for 20 levels, but I don’t blame you for wanting to check for yourself.

No, he’ll just have 10 in everything.

Exactly. Since the traits get reset regardless, it doesn’t really matter.

Brom Malochson.9306:

Kal Spiro.9745:

In order to buy something on the TP for gems you have to click once on the tiny icon displaying the price, then you have to click that same icon a second time to confirm the choice.

It’s a small icon that you have to specifically hit twice. Is this really insufficient to stop people from buying things they don’t want? All clothing items, not only let you see what they look like on your character before you buy them, they force you to, because as soon as you click on them they preview. Anything else generally gives you a fair description of what it is while you’re moused over it.

No, I don’t think people deserve refunds for any reason, and a buyback options is silly. Too bad for them for making frivilous purchases.

Pray tell, what is one downside to this feature? Anet keeps the money the user spent, and the user can exchange a purchase for something else within a short timespan. (Can’t hoard a purchase for a month only to exchange and buy that shiny pick, for example) As for the double clicking to buy, there is a thing called lag. It happens.

If you can give me downsides to this idea, then I will actually take your post seriously.

How does lag make you more able to click a thing? It should make you less likely to succeed.

Seriously? Well, I’ll confirm this once I get one of them to 60, until then it doesn’t matter.

The community primarily seems to believe it is a bug. I tend to agree. All previous PvP achievements have counted toward their respective event bar, it makes no sense this one wouldn’t.

Scourge.4317:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Scourge.4317:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Scourge.4317:

I kinda think they would make so much more money in the long run if they just put all the kitten skins in their styles tab. People who make alts and new people who may buy the game after the RNG boxes are gone will still be able to purchase the skins. They didn’t do this with the GW1 store. Heck they actually had good skins that you could wear in combat. I love this game to death but i honestly wish they would do away with the boxes and just put the skins in the styles tab. I have 7 level 80s and i would buy weapons for all of them if they were available in their store.

How could they possibly make more money? How many people would purchase multiple skins compared to the number that will buy innumerable crates, even though there is no reason to?

More people would be willing to spend money if the skins were available in their store and not in these random boxes. Its just my opinion that after these crates are no long available via the store and world mobs they wont be making any money off of them and it would be better to just add them in their styles tab so they would always be available for purchase.

They would probably make more money, too, if they still had gear from all their previous events available there as well. They’re not, so in this instance I’ll say that’s not really important to them. Still, it’s more important that there are really only a finite number of skins they would sell compared to the infinite number of crates they can sell since each crate only has a chance to have a skin.

People are going to stop spending money all together in their store if they keep this going. Throwing a way money for a chance at a skin can only go on for so long before people say kitten it and either leave or stop supporting them through the store. So many great skins in the GW1 store that had great themes and here we just get 3 that can be used in combat and the weapon skins tied to RNG.

No, they won’t. If that were the case it would have happened. It hasn’t, and it isn’t going to. The people who come here are an insignficant sample size. The people who come here are the ones who are angry, the people who aren’t angry don’t come here. The people who understood what it was they were doing and did it anyway and lived with their decision will continue to do so as long as they see value in it.

Oh, and just an aside. Gem store sales don’t benefit ANet, nor GW2 in any way. That money goes to NCSoft to do with as they please.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Cantha was a horrible representation of the Asian culture, more specifically, the Ancient Chinese culture.

I’m not Chinese and I’m offended by it. Ancient Chinese culture is not just about over-crowding, oppressions, gangs, and other bad stuff that the Canthan expansion portrait, which 1/3 of the expansion is centered around these negative stuff. And it took a group of foreigners to liberate the country — oh my.

Yeah Anet’s creative team really did harm with that expansion and you cannot rationalize it. You can see it for yourself.

The rule of a Chinese Dynasty would not be for so long if the culture is all about the negatives like that from the Canthan expansion.

Except it doesn’t ACTUALLY have anything to do with the Chinese because it’s not China, the Chinese Dynasty, nor Asia in any way. It is Cantha with their own history and problems whose developement culturally mimics the chinese, cosmetically.

This is the problem, people get bent out of shape about stuff that isn’t actually a representation of anything, nor meant to be. It’s just a way of adding another human culture into the game world and lore, in such a way that makes sense.

Regardless. Even if it is “based” on the true story and not the “actual” story, it still presents some connection that no one can deny.

Besides, you cannot prevent anyone from being offended. What’s important is, what do you do when you offended someone. Anet’s solution is to sink the whole quarter of Divinity’s Reach.

Sure we lose out on whatever content that it would have given us, but it’s better than having problems along the way.

What story? Again, it’s not based on anything, it is a cosmetic similarity. It LOOKS similar, but other than that it’s like saying that Japanese culture or Vietnamese culture is based on the Chinese because they have similarities. They are their own cultures, and the Canthan culture is their own because they have a history completely unrelated to anything that happened in Asia, because they’re not part of Asia in any way.

ANet’s response was not due to offending someone, it was due to being told at the last minute that they couldn’t put something they put a lot of effort into in the game. They had no time to rework it, so they just tore the whole thing out.

Spectrals.4682:

Thanks for the advice, it is very helpful to find a place to start. I often get a bit to into perfectionism when it comes to my work or life so being the best player I can be bothers me. Thanks though,

Another thing to keep in mind as you play, you have to buy at least two books to unlock the trait tiers. Apprentice opens them up at level 11, then at level 40 you can get Master and at level 60 you get Grandmaster. You don’t actually have to purchase the Master level one.

The reason you might, or might not, want to is that each book resets your traits to 0. So if you make a build for one way of playing, but some time around level 30 you realize that’s not actually how you want to play when you get to 40 you can use a Master book and completely redesign your build without having to buy an extra reset.

At the same time, if you’re absolutely certain you can, rather than buying the Master book just dump your traits into each of the five lines until 60, then use the Grandmaster book to reset your traits and allow you to build toward what you actually want your build to be.

I’m doing that last one on a couple of my characters.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Cantha was a horrible representation of the Asian culture, more specifically, the Ancient Chinese culture.

I’m not Chinese and I’m offended by it. Ancient Chinese culture is not just about over-crowding, oppressions, gangs, and other bad stuff that the Canthan expansion portrait, which 1/3 of the expansion is centered around these negative stuff. And it took a group of foreigners to liberate the country — oh my.

Yeah Anet’s creative team really did harm with that expansion and you cannot rationalize it. You can see it for yourself.

The rule of a Chinese Dynasty would not be for so long if the culture is all about the negatives like that from the Canthan expansion.

Except it doesn’t ACTUALLY have anything to do with the Chinese because it’s not China, the Chinese Dynasty, nor Asia in any way. It is Cantha with their own history and problems whose developement culturally mimics the chinese, the greeks and another culture I forget, cosmetically.

This is the problem, people get bent out of shape about stuff that isn’t actually a representation of anything, nor meant to be. It’s just a way of adding another human culture into the game world and lore, in such a way that makes sense.

Scourge.4317:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Scourge.4317:

I kinda think they would make so much more money in the long run if they just put all the kitten skins in their styles tab. People who make alts and new people who may buy the game after the RNG boxes are gone will still be able to purchase the skins. They didn’t do this with the GW1 store. Heck they actually had good skins that you could wear in combat. I love this game to death but i honestly wish they would do away with the boxes and just put the skins in the styles tab. I have 7 level 80s and i would buy weapons for all of them if they were available in their store.

How could they possibly make more money? How many people would purchase multiple skins compared to the number that will buy innumerable crates, even though there is no reason to?

More people would be willing to spend money if the skins were available in their store and not in these random boxes. Its just my opinion that after these crates are no long available via the store and world mobs they wont be making any money off of them and it would be better to just add them in their styles tab so they would always be available for purchase.

They would probably make more money, too, if they still had gear from all their previous events available there as well. They’re not, so in this instance I’ll say that’s not really important to them. Still, it’s more important that there are really only a finite number of skins they would sell compared to the infinite number of crates they can sell since each crate only has a chance to have a skin.

Danikat.8537:

I don’t see how NCSoft being the publishers would prevent them adding Cantha to the game. They were the publishers for GW1 as well and that (obviously) had Cantha in it.

Just because they haven’t done it now doesn’t mean it will never happen.

Because at the time of GW1 there wasn’t an issue, and NCSoft most likely didn’t fully know what was involved, even if they didn’t care then.

Now, due to whatever, there is a problem, and being fully aware of what Cantha involves they said no. Since the Publisher controls the money the Publisher has control of the project. ANet is beholden to NCSoft, regardless of what they might want to do.

I got all the (tiny number) Obsidian Shards I have by buying those Orr Jewel Box things. It’s probaby not nearly as efficient as what you’re looking for, but it’s there. It’s not like Karma is hard to get anyway.

Scourge.4317:

I kinda think they would make so much more money in the long run if they just put all the kitten skins in their styles tab. People who make alts and new people who may buy the game after the RNG boxes are gone will still be able to purchase the skins. They didn’t do this with the GW1 store. Heck they actually had good skins that you could wear in combat. I love this game to death but i honestly wish they would do away with the boxes and just put the skins in the styles tab. I have 7 level 80s and i would buy weapons for all of them if they were available in their store.

How could they possibly make more money? How many people would purchase multiple skins compared to the number that will buy innumerable crates, even though there is no reason to?

I 100% ANets use of RNG chests. I think they’re just fine. Even more so that they sell them for Gems because I feel that anyone stupid enough to buy them with real money deserves to have their money in more responsible hands.

In order to buy something on the TP for gems you have to click once on the tiny icon displaying the price, then you have to click that same icon a second time to confirm the choice.

It’s a small icon that you have to specifically hit twice. Is this really insufficient to stop people from buying things they don’t want? All clothing items, not only let you see what they look like on your character before you buy them, they force you to, because as soon as you click on them they preview. Anything else generally gives you a fair description of what it is while you’re moused over it.

No, I don’t think people deserve refunds for any reason, and a buyback options is silly. Too bad for them for making frivilous purchases.

Entropy.4732:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Ok, so this is for everyone’s good. Don’t do holograms, that’s tedious. Don’t do pinatas, it’ll take forever.

If you want to farm candy, and you absolutely have to do it right this minute, find a series of events that involves wave after wave of mobs, and a lot of mobs at that. My preference remains the Harathi Hinterlands final four, but Southsun Steampipe Stead is a good one too.

The reason for this is that every singe mob in the game has a really good chance to drop crates. Every single crate has candy and usually a handful of them. I think I got 5 from one. So you kill a huge mass of mobs over and over until you have an absurd number of crates. Then crack them all over for the candy inside. You’re active and having fun and if you really have enough time to play you will easily amass enough candy to buy your toy. Also every crate has the chance to drop that back item, so you might not even need to collect them all.

As a bit of an example, I did the Harathi Hinterlands final four once. It takes maybe half an hour. I collected 23 crates at the end of it. I broke them open for about a hundred candies. One even chain.

Got to kill 300 holograms if you want the achievement. Need the achievement to get the shattered wings. But good point in terms of farming candy.

This is 100% false. You need 10 of the 14 achievements, just like has been true since Wintersday. Not all of them. Pinatas, fireworks, candy, fireworks event, 4 instanced events, talk to the captains. That’s 9. This leaves the holos, Moa Racing, and as long as it gets changed to apply toward the total two Dragon Ball achievements.

I managed to get my Moas so I won’t be doing Dragon Ball nor Holos, but I’ll still get my wings.

Blame everything on NCSoft. ANet can’t do anything unless NCSoft lets them. They can’t make expansions without NCSoft giving them the money and they can’t do Cantha unless someone in NCSoft reverses a previous decision. It’s not ANet’s fault.

I always support every suggestion involving persistent minis. Yes please.

Simple. Go to the last major trait in each of the five lines and see if you like the XI or XII trait. Don’t worry about what you’re building for, but decide if you like it, or more appropriately if you have to have it.

For my Warrior I decided I needed both Defence XI and Tactics XI. I wanted a Tank and buffing Vitality and Toughness also seemed like a good path.

Then look at the second major traits and see if you feel like you need any of the VII-X traits. Then look at the first major traits and see if you like any of the I-VI traits. Finally look at all the minor traits and see if you like them.

For my Necromancer I was kind of interested in one of the first major traits of Death Magic, but I absolutely could not abide the first minor trait so I didn’t put anything into it. I then determined that in two places I just liked the minor traits more than another major trait so I brought two of the lines to 15 rather than bringing either to 20.

Don’t worry about the stats that it buffs. They’re useful, but not the end all be all of the lines. Most likely you’ll end up buffing the stats you’re interested in because the trait you like will be relevant to how you want to play and the stats being buffed will also go toward that direction of play.

I also recommend working with a builder, the one I have is out of date, but whatever
http://gw2.luna-atra.fr/skills_tool/

This game isn’t as grueling as all that. You don’t have to make the perfect build to survive, just do what you want.

I agree there are too many repetative tasks. I run around all the time, and attack things, over and over. I go do a dungeon and what do I do? I attack things, repeatedly. Then I have to keep hitting F to pick up loot. Then I go to the vendor and I have to hit sell over and over, it’s nuts.

So much repetition… Oh wait, you were talking about something else, weren’t you? I must have missed it over the irony.

GuzziHero.2467:

…and then I changed character and won 3 of 4…

Don’t I feel like a chump.

Wait… so all you were complaining about was having one of your characters bankrupted?

Drama much?

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Reading the above makes me wonder whether there is just one set of race animations. So: can you tell from the position of each moa in the line-up (from left to right) who’s going to win the race?

I will observe this for a bit next time I have time to play.

I am almost certain that this is the case, I just don’t know the specific pattern yet cause they don’t stay in the line up long enough.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Do you have a favourite moa racer? If so, who is it? Or do you rotate through them? Or pick one randomly?

I’ve been placing bets on all of them, but my favourite is Mortt. I just love the colours.

My boyfriend likes to place bets on the mystery moa, but I don’t know wether he has a favourite among them.

My favorite is Mokk, the Black Moa of the three Mystery Races. This has nothing to do with my race strategy, though, I just think Black Moas are cool.

kokocabana.8153:

Moa racing runs on statistics and there’s no luck involved. You will never make a profit in the long run playing because this was made as a gold sink and the expected profit is less than the cost. If you are going for the 3 win achievement or the mini, you should try to minimize your costs. The best strategy is to simply bet on the same Moa everytime. This will maximize your odds as switching Moas can only lower your odds.

Here’s the stats:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Moa_Racing#Statisics

Actually, based on my research the best strategy is to always bet on the second place winner.

I need to study the races longer, but so far it is looking promising.

Ok, so this is for everyone’s good. Don’t do holograms, that’s tedious. Don’t do pinatas, it’ll take forever.

If you want to farm candy, and you absolutely have to do it right this minute, find a series of events that involves wave after wave of mobs, and a lot of mobs at that. My preference remains the Harathi Hinterlands final four, but Southsun Steampipe Stead is a good one too.

The reason for this is that every singe mob in the game has a really good chance to drop crates. Every single crate has candy and usually a handful of them. I think I got 5 from one. So you kill a huge mass of mobs over and over until you have an absurd number of crates. Then crack them all over for the candy inside. You’re active and having fun and if you really have enough time to play you will easily amass enough candy to buy your toy. Also every crate has the chance to drop that back item, so you might not even need to collect them all.

As a bit of an example, I did the Harathi Hinterlands final four once. It takes maybe half an hour. I collected 23 crates at the end of it. I broke them open for about a hundred candies. One even chain.

GuzziHero.2467:

5 gold on Moa races. Wins? None. Oh but I finished second one time and didn’t even get an event completed notification.

I guess I am supposed to be cheering for the racers. I am not cheering one little bit.

I am now bankrupt. Gratz, Anet.

Did ANet make you bet all your gold? Really? You chose to continue, knowing the cost. Don’t blame them for your bad judgement.

I agree that it would be nice if the bet could be less, but the game isn’t entirely random. Once people start to understand the pattern it will become the opposite of a gold sink.

Delgan.8619:

That thank you was an answer worth reading and I fully agree.

but It would (however illogical for Anet to do so) be nice if they for once put it’s players before its profit margins.

You do understand that this is a free to play game, right? How exactly do you expect them to afford to continue it if they aren’t concerned with their “profit margins” as you say?

I have to agree with those above. You don’t speak for the community, you speak for yourself and some of the community may agree with you. I, as part of the community, do not, in any way. I enjoy the content they’re creating. I could not care less if it’s a reskinned versions of previous events because I enjoyed the event the first time around. If I enjoyed the original event why would I not enjoy it with a different look? The only thing about this even that disappoints me is the lack of a jumping puzzle.

I 100% support ANet taking advantage of stupid people that are willing to spend money on something they can easily farm for free. It’s not ANet’s fault that these people believe that something you pay for should be worth more and don’t understand that when the chance per box is the same the chance of getting anything out of even a great number of them is always going to be low.

I still wish Moa Racing was less expensive.

Danikat.8537:

It’s an effigy. They made it out of wood so it’d burn.

This, sorry.

Having Centaur as a playable race would involve a peace treaty with the Centaur. While this is something that Queen Jenna is in favor of, it is something that the Centaur have primarily shunned. If it was enacted, though, it would mean the war was over and the entire face of Harathi Hinterlands, a large section of Gendarran Fields and Kessex Hills and a portion of Queensdale would have to be redesigned in order to accomodate it.

So it’s highly unlikely that we’ll see this happen any time soon.

Dustfinger.9510:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Dustfinger.9510:

No. It’s not money. It’s imaginary money. It’s the same as gambling about crossing the street and not getting hit by a car. Only it’s less of actual gambling because the “money” is only money if you decide it has real value. basically, if you decide that it does have value then you are creating the situation for yourself. A-net isn’t the one doing it for you.

Actually GW2 gold does have a direct real world value. There is a constant realtime indicator of the gold to gems value, and gems have a specific dollar value. On top of that, time equals money and there is typically a significant time expenditure per gold, presenting a value there as well.

So yes, it is gambling. It is also more gambling than crossing the street as street crossing is a game of skill while Moa Racing is 100% RNG.

It’s no more gambling than playing the game and getting coins for killing mobs. So if it is gambling then OP has been gambling the entire time.

Also untrue. You don’t spend coins for a % chance to gain coins when killing mobs. In Moa Racing you have to spend a significant amount of coins, in my opinion, for a low chance to receive a reward. That is the definition of gambling.

Midnight Gypsy.9360:

I had about 57 s when I went to the Moa race and left with 2 g. you will make money even if you don’t get first place. I got 1st place 2 times. 3rd 2 times and 2nd twice. it’s easy to walk away with gaining a little bit of money.

There is nothing better than when someone with an absurd level of luck comes in and says how lucrative RNG gambling is. Keep playing and let us know how rich you are in the end. With a high enough sample size you should average out to a lose of about 6 silver per bet.

Wyre.7458:

Kal Spiro.9745:

As for making a thread every time I’m dissatisfied, no. I occationally participate in other threads about something I’m dissatisfied with, as I’m rarely uniquely dissatisfied with any one thing. This, however, is the first time I’ve been so extensively dissatisfied with an entire event that I felt the need to start a thread about it, and as I think I said, only because no one else had done it first.

if you don’t like this update it could be worse, they could get rid of everything, and leave us with nothing except a few weapon skins and moa racing. Oh right.

Lets be honest, the only reason most of us are playing gw2 over any other mmo is because we are waiting for it to be good. it has a lot of potential to be fun, but it just isn’t quite there, and these one time event, side steps, aren’t going to help get us there.

my advice, since there are no other mmo’s that peak my interests, personally, i would stay with gw2 and eventually in 2-3 years this game will become what it was meant to be when it first came out. Hopefully.

just ignore this update, and appreciate the the cool dragon mystic forge. haha

I love this game and already think it is fun. I’m not waiting for anything. GW2 is exactly what I wanted it to be. It wasn’t a compromise and they did inumerable things right that I’ve been waiting for a game to do.

I have enjoyed the previous events. Especially the holidays, they were a ton of fun. I was hoping this one would be more like them. I don’t really enjoy how the Living World content is being presented to us. I prefered how it was done before, but apparently enough other people didn’t enjoy it that way and made a stink. I don’t have a problem with missing an event, as long as I have sufficient warning that it’s going to be a thing.

All my friends moved on to Neverwinter, and while I would love to continue playing with them, and easily could because it’s free, I have no interest in leaving GW2. You really shouldn’t assume that because you think a way everyone else must too. We obviously have wholey different views on how things should work.

Blackwolfe.9185:

So “the content has been temporarily disabled” preventing you from making it in the MF, anyone know why?

Also, shouldn’t it really be a mini holographic dragon on some kind seen as it’s the dragon bash event? o.0 … oh and I hope the shattered wings look like Kerrigan’s from starcraft 2 and not those midgety, hyper-active spyro wings.

But for the most part good-effort, it’s nice getting an event every month, keep it up!

They’re Kralkatorik’s wings. If you’re unclear what that looks like, look up the next time you’re in LA. Those are the wings.

Wyre.7458:

Sera.6539:

Wyre.7458:

Kal-Spiro-9745 You made a good point about the holograms, but mostly you have a very unique point of view and I’m not surprised that you are unsatisfied because you are obviously very picky. :P
For example, who doesn’t pvp?
I just hope you don’t make a thread every time a game makes you unsatified, eventually you could have your own forum category.

Me. I only participate in the event PvP games for the achievement points, or else the missing rows irritate the hell out of me.

Every time a new event rolls around, I sigh cause I have to play another PvP mini game for achievements.

Really? hmmm… well, i dont think any of the content they released yesterday is the problem. they just simply aren’t releasing enough content to cater to people with such specific gaming preferences.

its really hard to believe that you could go without wvw, spvp, or minigames and still have a sufficient amount of enjoyment in this game. Even skill balancing is mostly based on effectiveness in pvp. i personally take advantage of everything this game has to offer pve, and pvp. It just seems like you might be limiting yourself quite a bit by only playing one or the other, but i guess you should only have to do what you like (although there is simply not enough content).

I honestly can’t imagine how anyone can claim to play this game and say there isn’t enough content. There is more content in this game than any other MMO, in my opinion, because you never outlevel any of it. You can do everything in the game, forever, and none of it ever becomes trivial. They’ve even improved on it such that you continue to get level appropriate gear more often than not.

That’s neither here nor there, though, and not really relevant to the thread. You don’t get me, and I don’t get you. Agree to disagree.

Mimir.4690:

Kal Spiro.9745:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Actually GW2 gold does have a direct real world value. There is a constant realtime indicator of the gold to gems value, and gems have a specific dollar value.

From the EULA:

You acknowledge that Gems are digital material with no cash value…

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-user-agreement/

section 4.d.vii

Am I missing something…?

Yes, everything. I would appreciate it if you could go troll someone else now, as this has nothing at all to do with the topic, let alone the point I was making.

I think the point that you are trying to make (which many players in this thread have already pointed out) is that you feel you are being forced to participate in this event, regardless of whether or not you think it’s gambling (that’s irrelevant, because that isn’t your point, correct?).

However, you are not being forced to complete that achievement in order to receive the back piece. There are 15 achievements total, and you only need 10. If you are a completionist, then you have to understand that that is your choice and you must therefore accept what some achievements may require. You are not being forced to do anything in a game, because it is a game.

No, that isn’t my point either. I’m not the OP, I’m just someone who responded to someone else on VERY specific points, and actually I do think it’s gambling, because it is gambling. That actually was one of my points.

I’m not going to do the Moa Racing because I don’t want to waste my silver. If it was cheaper, or could be variably changed to be cheaper I might concider it. Currently it’s too expensive to get something I don’t care enough about. Especially since, as you and several others have said, I don’t need it to finish the achievement.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Actually GW2 gold does have a direct real world value. There is a constant realtime indicator of the gold to gems value, and gems have a specific dollar value.

From the EULA:

You acknowledge that Gems are digital material with no cash value…

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-user-agreement/

section 4.d.vii

Am I missing something…?

Yes, everything. I would appreciate it if you could go troll someone else now, as this has nothing at all to do with the topic, let alone the point I was making.

LilMcGinley.3890:

You are saying gems have a real value yes?

In the EULA you agree that gems do not have a real money value.

Dude… what are you talking about? You’re having an argument with yourself, or something, because it isn’t with me since nothing you’ve said has yet had anything to do with anything I’ve said. I’m not suing anyone. I’m not trying to get my money back. I’m not selling gold, and it’s impossible to sell gems. I was making a point to someone else entirely in regard to a point they were making which also had nothing to do with any of these things.

I’m pretty sure I didn’t agree to that, because that makes no sense. If Gems don’t have a real money value how can I buy them for real money? I have bought several thousand gems to a cash value of $50-70, I’m not actually sure how many I’ve purchased. Purchased, mind you. That is an indication of real money value.

skullmount.1758:

I’d say my only issues are the amount of zhaitaffy needed to get the wings (100,000 really? Thats definitely a grind, in a supposed non grinding game), the gold cost for Moa racing, and having to compete with other players to get the holoprojectors. I don’t really have a problem with the numbers needed for the achievements, since you have a whole month to do them and there’s enough pinatas and fireworks in LA to do them.

To be fair, as I understand it the non-grinding is only relevant to the game itself. There is a long standing tradition of requiring grinds, and some really nasty ones, in order to acquire a cosmetic item. Also it is possible to earn that piece as a drop, so you might not even need to spend the time.

I feel the numbers are a bit high for the achievements, but as you say there are so many nodes in LA that it shouldn’t really be a problem. I think I got into double digits % wise within the first day so that’s fine. I just don’t like how they work, currently.

Wyre.7458:

Kal-Spiro-9745 You made a good point about the holograms, but mostly you have a very unique point of view and I’m not surprised that you are unsatisfied because you are obviously very picky. :P
For example, who doesn’t pvp?
I just hope you don’t make a thread every time a game makes you unsatified, eventually you could have your own forum category.

Actually no, I don’t have a unique point of view at all. You would only need to spend a short amount of time in the suggestion forum to realize how mediocre my point of view is.

People who don’t PvP are those who don’t enjoy it, and they are legion. I’m not going to say there are more of us than there are of you because I honestly have no way of knowing that, but I can say there are plenty of us. I personally don’t enjoy it because I’m simply no good at it. I have attempted each of the PvP mini games and in every case have been unable to compete, so I’ve just given up on that account.

As for making a thread every time I’m dissatisfied, no. I occationally participate in other threads about something I’m dissatisfied with, as I’m rarely uniquely dissatisfied with any one thing. This, however, is the first time I’ve been so extensively dissatisfied with an entire event that I felt the need to start a thread about it, and as I think I said, only because no one else had done it first.

juno.1840:

Yeah it’s gambling… but there are so many other moral failures in MMOs… drinking, killing, stealing, smoking… did we mention killing?

Oh yeah, and killing.

If you object on moral grounds to the moa racing, then please also stop killing things — otherwise we’ll say you have no objection to murder.

Killing isn’t always murder. And an aversion to gambling isn’t always on moral grounds. I don’t 100% support the OP, but I do agree it’s gambling and that is also specifically why I have a problem with it and won’t play it. I don’t gamble, not because it’s “morally wrong” but because I might as well just flush the money down the toilet or eat it as gamble it for all the good it does. It is a waste and I don’t like wasting my money if I can help it. Since I don’t gain any amount of extra enjoyment watching the Moas run if I’ve put down money on one as I do if I haven’t the money I’m most likely going to lose is not doing me any good.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Dustfinger.9510:

No. It’s not money. It’s imaginary money. It’s the same as gambling about crossing the street and not getting hit by a car. Only it’s less of actual gambling because the “money” is only money if you decide it has real value. basically, if you decide that it does have value then you are creating the situation for yourself. A-net isn’t the one doing it for you.

Actually GW2 gold does have a direct real world value. There is a constant realtime indicator of the gold to gems value, and gems have a specific dollar value. On top of that, time equals money and there is typically a significant time expenditure per gold, presenting a value there as well.

You can NOT directly convert GEMS to REAL MONEY ie a “cash out”. If you convert it to gold and sell the gold, you broke ANet EULA and broke their rules. No laws are broken because you can not cash out gems to real money

But you CAN buy gems for real money, therefore gems have a specific dollar value. Since you can ALSO buy gems for gold with a real time indicator of the current market value you can make the conversion to see the real world value of gold at any given time. You need to go calm down and let out a little of that rightous indignation, it’s not good for you.

Dustfinger.9510:

No. It’s not money. It’s imaginary money. It’s the same as gambling about crossing the street and not getting hit by a car. Only it’s less of actual gambling because the “money” is only money if you decide it has real value. basically, if you decide that it does have value then you are creating the situation for yourself. A-net isn’t the one doing it for you.

Actually GW2 gold does have a direct real world value. There is a constant realtime indicator of the gold to gems value, and gems have a specific dollar value. On top of that, time equals money and there is typically a significant time expenditure per gold, presenting a value there as well.

So yes, it is gambling. It is also more gambling than crossing the street as street crossing is a game of skill while Moa Racing is 100% RNG.

It’s filler content/acheivements toward the greater prize. It’s the same as hearts. How many hearts can be completed soley by clicking on some random thing over and over? You can do this event, or this activity, or if you just want to get it out of the way, click on a bunch of stuff.

The only difference was Master Carver, which was basically just a way of giving out a free title without just saying, congratulations it’s halloween, heres a free title. You had to “work” for it.

I completely support them, I enjoy the click for reward activities, and I suspect others do too. If you don’t like it, there is always Moa Racing and Dragon Ball. Presumably there will be enough activities to get the reward without clicking on things.

Why did you make two posts rather than responding to your first post?

Uruz Six.6594:

displacedTitan.6897:

This is a month long event and you are all crying about not instantly getting the rewards on the first day. These coffers are crazy common and there will be thousands upon thousands on the TP for super cheap in a few days.

This. At this point, I’m convinced the far safer bet is to wait out coffers coming down on the TP and go for broke there, skipping the rich ones altogether. I’m not entirely sure if Anet thought their cunning plan all the way through.

Just concider how much money they made yesterday. Does it matter how much they make for the rest of the month? I think they thought it out perfectly.

Get read for more Dragon Bash bashing.

It’s day two and I think I’m already done with this one. That’s not true, of course, I will continue to suffer through it because if nothing else I “need” the acheivements. But I still have complains and this is the place for them. I’ve read a lot of threads with similar troubles, but haven’t seen a complete compelation.

So it’s day two and the real events haven’t actually started yet, but we have gotten a bit of a taste of things.

Currently we have Holograms, Pinatas, Fireworks, Crates and Moa Racing.
The main problem I have, so far, is that things are not working the way they did in previous holiday events. For Halloween when I saw a pumpkin I could go carve it. If someone got to the pumpkin and carved it a fraction of a second before I clicked on it I didn’t lose the chance to. Everyone could interact with it equally. Just like snowmen in Wintersday and Hearts everywhere else. That isn’t the case for Pinatas and Fireworks in the cities. If you’re sufficiently far away at the point of interaction you can still get in there and use it, but if you’re standing right next to it you miss out. I will accept that this might be a bug, and if it is I hope it gets fixed, but if it’s intended it just makes no sense and harbors an atmosphere of competition for trinkets rather than community and cooperation. GW2 is no supposed to be about camping.

Holograms take too long to reset and provide too little when used. During Halloween if a door was openned and it spawned mobs they came in waves, so people had time to get in on the fun. During Wintersday if someone opened a giant presant it left presants than anyone could partake of, even if they missed the skritt or toys it dispensed. Once again this event is inspiring camping, because if you don’t you risk missing out on the handful of holograms that come out and you get nothing out of it otherwise.

Now I know we have all month, which is more than enough time, or should be, but I worry that it could be the start of a trend. All trends have to start somewhere and I don’t want to see GW2 pushed into a competative jerk fest of people stepping over other people in order to get what they want because otherwise they might miss it. That’s not what this game was designed to be.

I mentioned Crates, so I’ll simply say I don’t have a problem with them. I encourage ANet to continue putting RNG boxes on the market, especially boxes that are easily acquired ingame just by playing, because anyone stupid enough to spend money on them deserves to lose it, and I’d rather it be in ANet’s hands than theirs. I generally don’t care for the skins anyway.

Finally is Moa Racing. It looks like a truly delightful game and way to waste money, but there is no way in hell I am spending 50 silver on it. That is an absolutely absurd price. Not everyone has thousands of gold. I have just over a hundred, and I only have that because I managed to get two skins from Super Adventure Box. I still would not waste it on a silly game. This is as bad as the Cattlepult in Diessa Platue. A level 15-25 zone charging 50 silver per gamble, it’s absurd. Give us the option to set a price down to a few coppers and make whatever prize there might be scale to that. As such giving us the option to go well over the 50 silver if we really wanted to.

I won’t go into Dragon Ball because I don’t participate in PvP, so I really know nothing about it. I hope the rest of the events turn out to be better and that the story is fun. I wish there was a Jumping Puzzle, I really enjoyed those during Halloween and Wintersday.

I’ve enjoyed the previous events, and especially enjoyed the previous holidays, but it’s the second day and this one is already putting a bad taste in my mouth, and I don’t think it’s Zaitaffy.

Ratty.5176:

Kal Spiro.9745:

I love the argument of WoW is successful so, whether you think it is good or bad, it should be mimiced to be successful. The reason I love this argument is that it leaves out the simple fact that every single game since WoW that has attempted to mimic WoW has been unsuccessful. From this, the only thing I can take in is that in order to be successful you have to pave your own way and ignore what WoW did because doing anything they did because they’re successful will in no way help you become successful.

I don’t agree with Mimicking WoW just because it’s successful. But I do think because WoW is what 80% of the community probably knows, missing out some base functionality (LFG, Guild Controls, GUI manipulation) does make this game feel a bit unfinished. General quality of life things should be emulated unless there is a reason not to (EG. People feeling Inspect hurts the community, whether it does or not)

That’s all fine and good, but not what the OP is asking for. The OP is asking to mimic WoW for WoW’s sake. Not because it’s an actual improvement on the game.

I love the argument of WoW is successful so, whether you think it is good or bad, it should be mimiced to be successful. The reason I love this argument is that it leaves out the simple fact that every single game since WoW that has attempted to mimic WoW has been unsuccessful. From this, the only thing I can take in is that in order to be successful you have to pave your own way and ignore what WoW did because doing anything they did because they’re successful will in no way help you become successful.

Up side, I don’t like the way they look as don’t actually want them for any of my characters anyway.

archerT.1935:

Kal Spiro.9745:

archerT.1935:

This kind of crap makes me want to find a new hobby.

I think cosmetic stuff and convenience stuff such as the mining pick and sickle are perfect cash shop items. This RNG stuff is garbage, and I bet a large portion of the player base that is actually spending significant amounts of money on them are too young to buy lottery tickets at a gas station.

WTB paid expansion for 60 dollars with real, significant upgrades and content.

So don’t buy them. No one is forcing you. I’ve been playing since the head start and I have yet to spend a single gem on one of these boxes.

I haven’t, and won’t spend any money on the boxes.

My issue is with the fact that so many of their events/“new content” is just using casino psychology to separate people from their money, with little emphasis on fresh, new, and entertaining content… for which I’d gladly open my wallet.

I’m just lamenting out loud that I’m in the minority of the market on that one. Maybe I’m just old fashioned.

/wheniwasyourageiwalkeduphilltoschoolinthesnowinbothdirections

A fool and their money are soon parted.

If anyone is dumb enough to think they can “win” at a gamble, let them. It’s their money to lose. I 100% support the exploitation of idiots where this is concerned. I also don’t see that the minor thing they happen to gain, if they do get it, is really that much effort on ANet’s part compared to everything else they do in any given event.

Glad I didn’t even concider that one. I through by colossus they meant Kralkatorrik, for some reason.