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Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

My human necromancer noble, actually dresses like a noble. I suppose you could play any of the classes with any race. Although understandably less Charr would be magic users.

So does mine, that’s not at all weird. There is a human npc dressed nicely trying to teach his son about grenth to follow in his footsteps as a necromancer in DR. :P

Flinging somebody off a cliff with a burst of wind or zapping some lightning into a pool of water is an example of terrain based effectiveness :P.

Also, if it wasn’t obvious to the players at first, whenever the ‘big reveal’ comes along, everybody would just go “Not surprising.”

Mesmers and illusions are very well known to the playerbase. Also how could you kill of Marjory in that room without having the rest of the team know about it? And then NOT send Kasmeer to mental help once a Marjory illusion starts walking around with them everywhere?

Meerak wasn’t cool. He was crazy.

Also, unless you are in the Seraph, Logan isn’t your boss. :P

Who says that line doesn’t mean anything but “He didn’t use necromancer abilities to get close without making a sound”? <_<.

When Laranthir of the Wild was in LA, he directly mentioned asking Trahearne for permission to take an airship up to LA.

Niels.5396:

Finally Events saying it’s the only way to get to a place so we have to defend it would make sense!

Events to escort a caravan make sense because those guys don’t have the pocket cash to pay for waypoints, or it’s more expensive then they care to pay :P.

Pacifist yes, but completely able to defend themselves. In the crystal race event they actually do fight the inquest IIRC, in dry-top.

Of course they’d defend themselves, but likely wouldn’t go and attack somebody. As for how, using the aspects. Like the ASpect arena showed, the sun, lightning and air can be used offensivesly, and depending on terrain, with great effect.

jheryn.8390:

Most of mine are with lore except two. I purposefully made them against type. I have a Sylvari Necro and a Charr Guardian.

I loved the thought of them being “not the norm” in their own cultures.

Sylvari neros are not that uncommon actually.

And Charr guardians, some of the random iron legion soldiers are actuall guardians.

Blurk.6231:

Personally I have a Norn Mesmer which is a little out of lore.

Raven follower. Infact there is a crazy norn you can fight to reach a skill point who is a mesmer and Raven worshipper.

As for “With lore” Pretty much any race/class combo is doable with the lore, including backstories.

Every one of my character follows the lore, though many don’t follow the personal story. (For example, one of my characters is a Seraph officer, in her actual story she never joins an order and instead stays in Kryta as a Seraph calavry leader.)

skullmount.1758:

Any entity other than Abaddon, since its been stated several times by the devs that he is dead.
(though I guess with all that flub over in the lore forum about if its not in the game its subject to change, its entirely possible for Abaddon to come back.)

Sigh, doubtful since it’s a confirmed fact of why the gods have stopped interacting much at all with humanity (abaddon being dead dead), and we killed him in GW1 so they can’t change that.

Also, the line was more of a “Take the game as top canon, then interviews.” and less of a “Anything and everything in interviews is subject to change.” as I took it.

Wait, there were tengu in Elonian? I don’t remember that :O.

But yes, it’s mainly counting the two clans from Cantha, the two clans from proph and the one clan from EoTN areas.

Kurzicks. Luxons.

I wasn’t talking about the tengu at all. :P

Hell, about ‘disabilities’… I just recently watched a video of a guy who (I think) had down syndrome, and he owns his own successful restaurant.

That’s like Taimi. She WILL reach her goals and be known. Her legs won’t slow her down and she will beat obstacles infront of her.

Because depending on the viewpoint, they can literally be described as two aspects/facets of the same person.

Or goddess ‘twins’.

Esill.3205:

Ronin.7381:

Cantha would be a perfect place for it too, introducing the Tengu and encouraging them to take back their original homeland. Once we got there we could hear murmurs of descendants to both the Kurzicks and Luxons (they were both assimilated into the Empire) creating a rebellion.

Tengu are from Tyria.
Weren’t Kurzicks and Luxons slaughtered?

No. The ones that stayed in Cantha simply were forced to join the empire.

Palador.2170:

I’d kind of hope he’s wearing Pact gear by now. It’s kind of bad if he refuses to wear the stuff his soldiers have to wear.

Sylvari grown armors are literally just as good as those.

IIRC, there is dialogue with a Sylvari in the vigil (or hanging out near them) where it is mentioned it took them a while, but they convinced the Vigil to simply let them wear their grown/plant armors and that it was just as effective.

AlphaDelilas.2873:

Second, she is not 5. She is in her teens, which you would have known if you paid attention. She has already been placed in one of the three colleges and obsesses over Scarlet because she sees beyond Scarlet’s madness and wants to write her dissertation on what Scarlet discovered.

Well, partly the reason for her obsessing over Scarlet (or the entire reason in a sense? Was that she was very interested and liked how Scarlet didn’t accept restrictions placed on her, Scarlet went and learned what she wanted when she wanted. IIRC, Taimi mentioned once that she feels like she’s in the wrong college.

Also, Like how sometimes Norn can be ‘dumber’ then humans, Asura are, by all standards, far more intelligent then humans.

Taimi seems SUPER FREAKING SMART, but she’d around humans and Norn and charr, not other Asura.

Braham… why can’t people understand the concept of THERE ARE SIMPLE, DIRECT PEOPLE OUT THERE. They aren’t all dumb either, they just go with a simple, direct course of action over a fancy, thought-out one. In terms of fantasy, instead of picking the lock of a chest, Braham will smash the lock and be done with it.

I don’t see him as being forced in or representing all males at all. People need to stop shoving political labels and agendas on EVERYTHING.

redrex.9634:

Not the one with the orange sails, the one with the scarlet sails. Its anchored to the crashed ship near a point involved in your investigation in the LS. I havent managed to get to the top of the jumping puzzle but from the ground it seems to be siting there, in tact, very comfortably.

This was the one that was glowing (check out the FotFW trailer, its featured in a fly-by).

If i remember correctly it was not with them before they came back (from Cantha is the current consensus), and the glow is similar to the glow in the backpack worn by the MoP.

I could never see the ship itself, but it looked like the sails were torn and damaged, and there is a decent hulk of wreckage directly below that point.

edit: Also, rewatching the trailer, the ship that had the weird glow? It goes get an explosion on it.

Also, if nobody has noticed it… The Vine ARE sucking magic out.

I looked closely at the vines in Fort Salma and Mirkrise (the priory camp in brisbane), and you can see a blue flow coming from the waypoint, down along the vine into the ground, causing a glow similar to that of the ley-line intersection in LA.

I find the Kodan’s… are meh.

I mean, they are neat, but it seems like (and maybe I’m colored by the personal story ones as a Norn being my early interaction with them) they are either Nice, or kittens.

They seem to either be “I’ll try to explain this to you.” or “You can’t even understand our beliefs/how things are. I won’t even try to explain it.”

UNLESS….

The Pale tree DOESN’T know about any ‘link to a dragon’. Given how it was taken from the cave of seeds, and planted with Ventari, for all we know it could be unaware of any such connection.

Just like how the fantasy tales go of a child of an evil race/evil lord gets raised among good people, never knowing just how truly evil his kind normally are.

Michael Walker.8150:

I always thought this was strange though, in a world of instant teleportation, the relaying of information should happen much faster, especially since the teleportation fee is very little, even less for lvl 1 NPCs :P

A: Ingame the Asura gates are free for players to use, while in the actual lore there is a cost for using the gate (and it gets bigger if you are shipping cargo or groups through)
B: Likely the waypoints can be a bit expensive, probably cheaper but still expensive for an out of pocket cost, which is how I took the magic.

The way it was described it sounded as if the magic involved took the coins from your coinpurse and teleported them to the safe room in Rata sum. Not from your bank or stash, but from your pocket. I could be wrong, but that’s how I took it. Either way, we know almost everybody prefers to simply hike caravans across the distances instead of waypointing, and I’d bet it relates to the money aspect.

EdwinLi.1284:

Also a interesting thing about Cantha is that it is possible that the Deep Sea Dragon maybe located near Cantha and we will fight Deep Sea Dragon there by going deep into the Jade Sea. Of course there has been speculations that the Outcasts are the Deep Sea Dragon’s minion and Kanaxai is the Deep Sea Dragon’s champion.

But those theories don’t work at all since the Deep Sea dragon is within the endless ocean or whatever it is called, and it (and/or it’s minion) emerged from the DEEPEST parts of the ocean, driving out the Krait, Quaggan, Karka, and Perhaps even the Largos from the ocean… which isn’t connected to the Jade Sea as far as I know.

Celestina.2894:

While this isn’t male, it might give you some color scheme inspiration. I’m not sure how this outfit would look on male but you can give it a shot.

The set is a mix of magnus eye patch,trickster top + bottom, AC boots, masquarade gloves and Teq staff. The dyes are enamaled jungle (SP?), icing dye and midnight ice.

http://imgur.com/a/gsYFy

Indeed, see? ‘normal’ clothes on a Sylvari and it looks good :P.

KeyLimPi.9031:

Not really possible. The reason treahearnewas the leader of the pact was because he spent his entire lifetime researching HIS Wyld hunt. He literally spent all his time in Orr which is why he understood Orr and Zhaitan. The secondary reason was due to his contacts in each of the 3 “sects”. He knows nothing of the other dragons aside from, hey, they’re dragons.

Not only that but he hasn’t completed his Wyld Hunt so I don’t think he’ll leave Orr. After all, I have yet to see him cleanse any of it.

A: Why would he be clueless about the other dragon? Sure he’d know less but there is no indication he’d look at a icebrood and go “waaat?” maybe I mistook your post in that regard.
B: He DID clenase Orr. The Source of the water. It’ll take time to flow throughout the entire Orrian land and longer for the land to fully heal and start regrowing, but his Wyld hunt is done. He tells that to us personally.

Yeah, no to the idea of Marjory dying and then becoming a mesmer illusion.

We already got enough kitten about that with Jennah and Anise tinfoil theories.

Horst Hortensie.5420:

Kalavier.1097:

Inquest* Not Inquisition…

Also, why is it so hard to think that Aerin could’ve used a knife on the Sanctum, but pulled out his grenades and bombs when we reached him?

The vendor has the same wounds. He would have switched between dagger and bombs between his kills. Further are engineers not known for dagger weapon use.

And if he was trying to NOT draw attention to himself, the dagger makes sense. Why would he have switched between dagger and bombs for his kills?

Also, Necromancers aren’t know for using an axe is straight up melee combat, yet I’ve seen Marjory melee attack with her axe. Warriors don’t use pistols, yet Rytlock does. Hell, a number of Vigil/Lionguard/other forces have medium armor people using a pistol and warhorn, a combo we don’t see usable ingame (Engineers don’t use warhorns, rangers don’t use pistols…) Plenty of npcs have used weird weapon combos.

Inquest* Not Inquisition…

Also, why is it so hard to think that Aerin could’ve used a knife on the Sanctum, but pulled out his grenades and bombs when we reached him?

wwwes.1398:

I think a lot of people who complain about the story haven’t been paying attention. But that being said, you can’t quite fault them for not remembering details of the story that they’re bored with.

The problem I have isn’t “I don’t like this.”

It’s when I see people complain about a specific thing… which if they paid some attention, would find isn’t an issue.

The original maps of Arah hold no canon standing. Yes, originally he was supposed to be in the map and dead. But the maps changed, and that’s no longer in the area.

Intent vs actuality happens a lot with visuals and such.

Also, IIRC the interview they actually didn’t make it clear one way or another.

Are they level 80?

Stooperdale.3560:

Ogden will probably have a bigger role if the story ever gets round to Primordius. You’d expect the Priory to have asked him all about dragons and their minions already, to be honest.

This. If we encounter dwarves he’ll come to play more often.

As it is, all the information he could give has likely been given, and IIRC, he does teach classes at the Priory and make lectures about things.

So outside of our characters learning details, for the Priory leadership and researchers it’s old news :P.

A: It’s facing minions yes, the dragon themselves? No. Also, the VIGIL is taking on the Shatterer, not the Pact. The Pact is really facing the Claw of Jormag only really outside of Orr. Even then, it’s nothing more then a holding the line action, hardly a campaign.
B: I understand your context, though I wouldn’t word it that way personally. I’d probably word it something more like “They’ve faced the forces of three elder dragons in decent numbers.”
C: Orr was an ENTIRE NATION Turned to Risen. Plus all the pirates who took shelter there, plus everybody the Risen has killed and turned since then, plus corpses found from shipwrecks in the deep, Plus all the native wildlife turned to risen.

That’s like attacking the USA, but instead of just fighting all the people walking around, you are fighting all the corpses buried there, and every animal in the forests and lakes. Oh, and everybody who died just off the coast.

It’s a very, very large number of risen, and they aren’t easy to kill at all. Plus artifacts and dragon champions may continue to spawn more risen even with Zhaitan’s death. It was a fierce, costly battle to reach Arah and take out Zhaitan, why would it suddenly become easy afterwards? the Risen by no means just stopped fighting and/or died. Traehearne, IIRC, stated outright that Orr wouldn’t be safe and the Risen would be a threat for a long time, though now it’s a slowly dwindling threat instead of one growing larger each day.

Frankly, if you go there, a very real concern in one camp in cursed shore is the fact the caravan guards/ the scouts or messagers HADN’T returned yet. And that for all they know, they could be shipping supplies straight to a Risen horde charging them. Zhaitan is dead and the source of Orr cleansed, but the Risen will be there until every last one of them is killed. Which will be a long time seeing as we haven’t even been through HALF of Orr.

cpg.7140:

narwhalsbend.7059:

Defhan.2389:

Don’t know if this new map is posted here but it should be.

http://i.imgur.com/2GBo51U.png
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2agwtg/we_discovered_where_the_vines_are_heading_heres/

Going to a jumping puzzle? I think it would be more likely that it’s going to the Searing Cauldron if it’s headed to that are at all. I mean, why else would you be in that area if you were looking for powerful magical artifacts?

The chaos crystal cavern is connected in terms of lore (although I can’t remember the specifics) with the Thaumanova Reactor and I suppose, therefore, dragon energy, so that’s likely the thinking behind it.

It’d filled with magic in general, as the Infinity Coil would be.

Basically it’s a thing that makes it so if you tried to AFK the fight and have somebody else do it for you, you wouldn’t get the achievement for never being hit by a bomb or such.

The aetherblade and pact airships don’t have sails.

The aetherblade airships do have red holographic style highlights on them though.

Game mechanics and player behavior is not what I’m talking about. I’m talking LORE-WISE.

The characters we play are hiking, jumping, and swimming most everywhere. We are fighting a lot, and even the casters can kinda get physical in their attacks. Realistically, they wouldn’t get fat living the standard adventurer life-style because they wouldn’t eat huge amounts, and would have enough physical activity to keep fit.

Dean Calaway.9718:

I really wished this was just a game mechanic, the idea of “I’m in the Cursed Shore and the next second Divinity’s Reach” really takes away from the travel a great distance and be very far away in a really dangerous place.

Having that said you’ve posted everything there is to know about them, what other questions do you have?

As for thoughts, I think it would be cool to have them all but major city ones disabled for 2 weeks as part of the LS2.

You see Pact forces in Cursed Shore use waypoints to reinforce a recently reclaimed/taken camp. It’s at the other end of the tunnel (camps/waypoints at either side), a bunch of guys will appear though it.

[quote=4194629;Dean Calaway.9718:][quote=4197051;Erukk.1408:]

Actually, no. His mind isn’t implied to have changed at all. He’s the last dwarf (that we know of) who is sane, and isn’t part of the ‘great dwarf’ hive mind or whatnot driven to one focus, fighting destroyers.

I never said I believe he is alive or dead.

I simply said, don’t take those shards as hard canon and proof of it. Because we get so many, and like I doubt we really collect seals of beetletun of symbols of Koda in mass…

Also, we “shot at him alot” over the spot of his death, which is a good bit away from Arah.

Mikuchan.7261:

We do have lots of pieces of his body and we constantly get more for doing Arah explorable. The Shards of Zhaitan dungeon tokens are, as the name suggests pieces of Zhaitan. They even have a lore text on them saying that they are pieces of him and that he is forever dead.

I REALLY, REALLY wouldn’t take the dungeon tokens as hard canon.

Because A: Zhaitan’s death was a good distance from Arah, in an Area we can only assume the Pact hasn’t even touched if they haven’t secured Arah ATM.
B: Who would go and carve pieces of Zhaitan out of the corpse?

Erm… the descendants of the eoTN group are not in Destiny’s Edge, only one is.

Jora’s descendant is in the vigil, we have no idea if Rytlock is linked to Pyre and Vekk we have no information on if he had kids.

thejacaluck.7346:

that humans being skinny is part of the lore? I mean, it is a fantasy rpg and they never said that humans were the same as us. Lol I dunno. Nothing to get stressed about.

Or it’s a more ‘medival’ setting which involved lots more physical activity, meaning more people are ‘fit’ compared to modern day.

And all player characters do a lot of physical activity, so they’d be at least somewhat fit/athletic and not fat.

The ship with red sails, as I last saw in drytop, was quite clearly crashed at the top of the cliffs. I’ve not noticed or seen ANY airships actually flying or intact around drytop, the red sails (which IIRC, were unique to that ship, but my youtube is fubared so I cannot confirm), are visible at the one edge of the map, entangled and grounded.

ThiBash.5634:

Calys Teneb.7015:

So, you mean like Moriarty. Suddenly a guy who is as good as Holmes who was never in any stories except the one he killed Holmes off in.

Where did I ever say I was a fan of Sherlock Holmes?

I used to play on a role-playing server in World of Warcraft. If there’d been a roleplayer that came up with a background story like Scarlet’s, he/she would have been laughed at and told to go back to google and read up on how to create a good character backstory. The people that came up with Scarlet call themselves writers, so they should know better.

What I’ve heard od WoW rping communities is they tended to scorn and laugh at ANYTHING outside the box. Half-elf? BAD CHARACTER. Troll from a clan other then the horde one or two? BAD CHARACTEr. etc.

Also, given how Sylvari wake up fully grown and WITH the knowledge of their class for the most part (basics at least)… It fits. Besides, those that only glanced at her backstory thought she learned everything. The officially backstory explicitly said she didn’t learn all that she could have with each race. Norn and Charr both had much, much more to teach her. Asura gave her ONE class of work (Or one semester, something like that). Basically, she did (going by a two semester systen like the high school I went to had…), a grand total of half the freshmen year. For each collage. Hylek we don’t really know how much she learned or what she still had to learn from them. She didn’t just magically know all this kitten after waking up, she spent something like… 16 years studying and exploring before becoming Scarlet.

Then there is the fact she got her mind slowly controlled by another being, one which is implied to ALSO been a factor in a lot of her stuff.

Scarlet Briar: Ever since I came out of Omadd’s machine, you’ve been taking credit for my ideas. They are mine! Not yours.
Scarlet Briar: Let me be clear. I’m not doing this for you; I’m doing it for me. Nobody tells me what to do. Not ever.
Scarlet Briar: It’s not true. None of it. I don’t have to listen to you. Get out of my head!

Who says a chunk of what she did as SCARLET wasn’t also because of Mordi or the other ‘voice’ in her head?

BobbyStein.2315:

lakdav.3694:

Well they did move away from most of the things they said during development (see the manifesto), it only figures that interview-lore isnt sacred either.

Unless we’ve built content around something, it’s usually considered malleable from a design and lore standpoint. Occasionally we decide to go in a different direction months or years after the first ideas are documented or even talked about externally. In some cases that means what one member of staff says in an interview can change when it comes time to building a release. It’s part of our iterative process.

In short, go by what’s in the game.

Bobby, I think you need to clear this up. People seem to be taking this statement as instead of “Go with the game as top tier canon for the most part.” as “Only the game counts, everything else is worthless.”

BobbyStein.2315:

lakdav.3694:

Well they did move away from most of the things they said during development (see the manifesto), it only figures that interview-lore isnt sacred either.

Unless we’ve built content around something, it’s usually considered malleable from a design and lore standpoint. Occasionally we decide to go in a different direction months or years after the first ideas are documented or even talked about externally. In some cases that means what one member of staff says in an interview can change when it comes time to building a release. It’s part of our iterative process.

In short, go by what’s in the game.

“Content” can mean books IMO.

And no, he didn’t say It’s not valid if it’s not in the game, he just said game is the top tier canon basically.

His statement (quoted above) says “Go with the game for the most part.”

NOT ONCE does he dismiss everything outside the game as ‘non-canon’ or worthless.

BrotherBelial.3094:

The Breach Maker cut off Mordi’s food supply. Surly he would not want his food cut off. So it could be someone who wants to stop Mordi. Even all the dragons. Just has another way to go about it. Now the vines are spreading out to keep feeding Mordi. Scarlet seems to hate the tree, so she could have done it knowing during the fall out Mordi would kill the tree.

Just think about it instead of blindly saying it’s Mordi.

Yes, because cutting off the ley-line to him is what caused the thing to GLOW BRIGHT BLUE, so bright it’s visible through the EARTH, and surge at him.

No, What the breachmaker did was either block it so it ONLY flowed to Mordi, or blocked it briefly causing it to surge outside, like plugging a river and then having the kitten break (Like LOTr two towers the ents breaking the dam in the movie :P)