Guild Wars 2

There’s a difference between Hardcore and Grinder. Hardcore plays a lot. Grinder grinds a lot…

I do play a lot. I’m doing daily achievements, a lot of WvW for karma, and well… gathering things for legendaries, you know.

If you really want to grind to improve stuff, well Diablo 3, Path of Exile, Titan Quest, etc… are way more fun for that.

Here’s a nice article on the feedback from The Lost Shores and the upcoming content.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/chris-whiteside-on-the-lost-shores-and-beyond/

What do you think? I’m a bit disappointed because it doesn’t answer our complaints about new gears but I’m excited for the future content. I just hope that they’ll do an event like Shadow of the Mad King for Christmas!

One-Time Events are nice but they should not be so one-time ;
First, it creates lag because we gotta all be there at the same minute to participate. Then, a lot of people can’t participate, so the event should maybe repeat all over a week so that those people can’t really have an excuse.

Congrats, we got the proof we needed to nerf thiefs :P

Nice survey, I felt that I had the possibility to say what I had to say, for once. And to be heard.

To resume my choices,
I’m 100% for the concept of one-time event,
I’m 100% for them to be replayable a few hours/days,
I’m 0% for them if they keep the current lag/bugs problems.
and I will never invite a single friend during trials if there’s 0 reward for me.

Wonder the same thing here. They said they have a team working on it.

Is that so hard to identify us and mail us items or a chest?

JemL.3501:

do i apply for this too? because if i didnt dced i woudlve finished it, and iam being serious with this question, or only those who dced when were about to pick the stuff from the chest.

Two possibilities: Or they identify the players who went disconnected during the event and you don’t apply, or they indentify those who have participed in the event (probably easier) but did NOT open the chest, and then you might apply (you might also not, if they only select players from the BOSS event)

Yea, they have posted this on facebook.

I’d probably have voted for GW2,
a weekend ago…

Difficult = Annoying, to me. At least in those zones.

Queensdale is so much more friendly! Soloting Centaurs, 2shoting mobs, I really feel like a hero. In Orr, I just feel like a dumb guy with an arrow in the knee 90% of the time…

This is all conspiracy.

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/146133mike.png

Tshamblin.9278:

Why would you ruin everything and post this here?

More Plinx for him!

Deadly Spirit Guy.4769:

(little off-topic now lol)

Well, I was about to talk about Baye’s formula… but, yea, my reminder about random is kinda enough

Deadly Spirit Guy.4769:

So what you’re saying is some of us are inherently kittened from the beginning of time? haha, believable

Exactly If there’s no random in human mind, then your destiny and your choices are all written.

First, I think that you’re talking about gems.

Every time you trade gems for gold or gold for gems, a percent of the money (gold or gems) you give is wasted, like when you pay a few silver to post something on an Auction House.

First, there’s a difference between “Random” (the real random, a dimension that we can’t use or access) and “Random created by humans” (using complicate formulas to simulate random). So the random that you see in videogames is never really random.

I’m not going to start a philosophy or physic lesson, but the only “real random” of this universe happened during its “potential” creation. Then atoms and physics laws did all the rest. With that, for example, you can already predict all loots you’ll get during your life, before you are even born. Then, you are not directly “lucky” but your luckiness happened during the creation of the universe… well, see what I mean, lol? It’s just logic.

Short version is, a bad particule position at time 0 and you get no loot all your life. If you have 1/2 chances to get something, well, that’s wrong, you have chance 1/unknown chances that the creation of the universe was proper to you getting this something.

Well, my theory is considering our minds are all-made of atoms so I may be wrong.
That was my philosophy moment.

Complete tour here!

http://gw2screenshoots.blogspot.fr/2012/11/the-lost-shores.html

One Time Events is an idea that they had already for a long time before release – just read the collector conception book, there’s a little passage about this.

Well I think that it was a very nice idea, but it encountered severals problems.
- Lag (massive amounts of players gathered on one place).
- Crashs, probably same reasons (didn’t get my reward because of crash on Ancient Karka)
- Rushed content (no map completion in Southsun Cove? why so small? but graphictly beautiful, I have to say it).

Even considering these problems, I’m 100% for those events, but if they could boost a bit servers during them, that would avoid suchs crashes. Well, let’s consider it was a test, they got datas now.

I feel that the game economy is built on gold sinks to encourage us buying gold from them.

I mean, let’s say Bobby wants to buy an AWESOME item that costs 100 gold. He started playing at release, total he has lost 10 gold from waypoints, 10 gold from repairs and 10 from trading fees of the Trading Post.

Results, instead of having 100 gold, he has only 70 gold. He needs 30 more gold, so he needs to grind/buy 30 gold to grab his item.

That seems to be a very precise case here, but in the game that applies everywhere for everything and it must really increase gems sales. But keep in mind than that’s only my own theory on the matter, I see no other reasons to make such gold sinks.

Haha, reinforcement waves, we were all crying NOOOOO when the second started.

I think that it was a bad effect of upscaling. 5 karka per player x 200 players, adding champions, that’s annoying :P

An opinion is growing across this forum and across the game: we do not want Ascended Stuff. We do not need it, we do not want it.

The fact is, that you have built a community that doesn’t need gear progression. That, actually, generally hates it. And now, – in an attempt to get more players? -, you introduced those new, powerful items that are requiring intensive grind to get. And I think that you will actually lose faithful players (F-A-N-S).

Mike O’Brien:

“Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games.”
-Mike O’Brien, President of Arenanet

Myself, I’ve been waiting this game for so long, I’ve been playing everyday since release, and today, I’m losing taste. Because I’m losing faith in this game, because I’m losing trust in YOU, Arenanet. You promised a game that does not need those pathetic attempts to grab players – so far you have made it, until 2 days ago.

This is NOT too late. There are actually only 4-5 Ascended Items in this game, and only a few players owning them. You can still make ONE STEP BACK, refund those players, change Fractals rewards.

Colin Johanson:

“We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills”
-Colin Johanson, Lead Game Designer.

Fractals could actually be very fun with any other rewards. You can give achievements, exclusive skins, titles, 20-slots bag, gold… there are tons of stuff that can justify playing it everyday as an end-game feature, but not Ascended Gears.

When some of us were complaining about end-game, that’s probably not what they were expecting. Give us more content, zones, personnal story, expansions! That’s the spirit of GW!

So, to get our faith back, you have to make something extraordinary, you have to change your mind, you have to listen general opinion, you have to make
ONE STEP BACK.

Now, players, discuss and /sign !

Just wanna post a little message to say “YAY!” to your improvements on dungeons.

I just did Twilight Arbor after patch and each boss now loots 10 silver and sometimes a little bag with 3 bonus tokens, 600 karma and 3-4 silver + the items from the chest (sometimes some rares). And the 1800 karma + 26 silver + 60 tokens in the end of the dungeon.

Total earned, almost 1 gold earned in one dungeon. And tokens! And karma!

Well, it was just great, I’m motived again to do dungeons! and my whole team had the same feeling!

I need a lemon, just in case :P

Bump!

Are you all happy with the gear grinding? End of the debate?
If you don’t give HoM a strong voice, it will never happen. 3 guyz asking this across a few random threads is not enough.

Also all end-game ideas are welcome here. More content? Dungeons? Improvement of WvW?

EDIT: This merge function is just horrible.

I would like too know too

I’ve only bought the Gift of Battle and the Bloodstone Shard since I prefer to be careful with all these patchs…

I’ve already got the Gift of Exploration, some 400k karma and a lot of gold. Precursor is the only thing that can stop me!

I am a “loyal player”, I have waited GW2 five years like others and I have played everyday (expect 3 days) since release and hell yea, I want my legendary.

As I did not open this thread without something in mind, I am gonna start by my own answer to this question.

To me, end-game should have three letters: HoM. Hall of Monuments was simply GREAT in Guild Wars, first owner of the name. It was an unique and awesome place to collect skins and achievements. It was using the feeling of completion, like gears, but it was even better and nobody could whine about it.

So, why not? I’m saying “why not” because this idea has been proposed multiple times and we still ended-up with gears instead. I see no problem with the lore ; it could be somewhere in the Mists. I see no problem with the powerful gears ; it can work with too.

EDIT: This merge function is just horrible.

As you may have noticed recently, Arenanet has started releasing more “end-game” after many complaints… and we are going to have new, more powerful gears, called Ascended Gears – but, don’t take me wrong, this thread is not about that, it’s about general end-game.

So, my little finger (and many threads) are telling me that it wasn’t really what people were expecting, so, I’m asking to you, what should end-game be ?

EDIT: This merge function is just horrible.

This is what you get, when you complain about end-game. (:

I feel that item rarity was a bad idea… oh wait

Why not level 300? I just love leveling

And I feel alone by reading you guys

There was a similar creature in GW Factions.

(Don’t remember the name, can’t find wiki page :/ )

I don’t see why there wouldn’t be a level cap raising.

With downscaling, cannot make any problems with dungeons, WvW, etc… for example, in Twilight Arbor we are downscaled to level 55. If the level cap was raised to 100 for example, we would be downscaled to level 80 in Arah.

I’ve always loved leveling, tired of being forced to do rerolls to have a new leveling challenge. :P I wish a MMO could have like 1000 levels. A real nerds MMO.

Hello, I have 2 questions,

1. If my friend plays during trial and then decides to buy the game a month later – will his characters be still there?

2. Is there any reward for inviting friends? With me, you know, it’s deal-deal, or nothing-nothing.

Well, ask him, each time I attack him he stealth and he got +20% of his life back :P

Yes, thief is cheated and yes, I am raging, because I simply can nothing against it.

As a ranger, I use a shortbow and traps to make a lot of damage. The problem with thief is STEALTH.

Here’s a classic fight against a thief:

I shot ‘em 3 times, they stealth, they heal, they attack me.
I put traps, they walk inside, they stealth, they heal, they attack me.
I shot ’em 3 times, they stealth, they heal, they attack me.
I put traps, they walk inside, they stealth, they heal, they attack me.
My health is low, I use my heal skill.
I shot ’em 3 times, they stealth, they heal, they attack me.
I put traps, they walk inside, they stealth, they heal, they attack me.
I shot ’em 3 times, they stealth, they heal, they attack me.
I put traps, they walk inside, they stealth, they heal, they attack me.
My health is low, I fall.
Hopefully, I have a skill to interrupt the achieving skill – that will let me more time to lower his health – but, where the hell is he?
I’m achieved and dead – he was invisible!

And now he’s proud because he probably think he is skilled.

Stealth, Stealth, Stealth, I HATE TO RAGE THAT WAY, so please, fix this

Yea but is that exactly 24 hours after you’ve done it or does that reset at X time of the day? (let’s take the one in Eternal Battlegrounds as example)

Been wondering too’

NoOneShotU.3479:

Does this mean coins put in and coins taken out, because I have more $$ in my vault than ever now and the accumulated coins seem higher than whats in my bank.

if thats the case what’s to keep me from getting this title by putting 5g in and taking 5g out 40x ?

It’s 200g at the same time. So, no, it won’t work.

Karma → Legendary weapon. You need around a million karma.

Karma → Gold is not possible, there were a few solutions, all nerfed.

Well it would kinda break the proof that you really own the item :P

Anyone could link a legendary weapon without having it.

Another idea would be to upgrade it in Mystic Forge step by step, that would kinda be epic. Here’s an example.

First, you find a broken sword in the end of a very hard Jumping Puzzle (like Eternal Battlegrounds one).

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Broken Izor’s Sword (Gray Quality – Cannot be sold)
“This sword needs to be repaired”

Step 1 – Put in the Mystic Forge:
1 Broken Izor’s Sword
50 orichalchum ingot
250 mithril ingot
10 mystic coins

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Weak Izor’s Sword (White Quality)
“This sword is weak. It has no magic.”

Step 2 – Put in the Mystic Forge:
1 Weak Izor’s Sword
1 Eldritch Scroll
1 Eldritch Scroll
1 Eldritch Scroll

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Eager Izor’s Sword (Blue Quality)
“This sword is asking you battle, glory, death.”

Step 3 – Put in the Mystic Forge:
1 Eager Izor’s Sword
1 Gift of Battle (500 badges of honor)
1 Gift of Hero (60 tokens of each dungeon)
10 Dragon Scales (from Tequalt, the Shaterrer… -> Your idea)

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Greedy Izor’s Sword (Green Quality)
“The sword is asking you wealth, gold.”

Step 4 – Put in the Mystic Forge:
1 Greedy Izor’s Sword
1 Gift of Cupidity (50 gold).
100 mystic coins.
10 elonian wine.

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Contented Izor’s Sword (Rare Quality)
“Your soul and the sword need to make one.”

Step 5 – Put in the Mystic Forge:
1 Contented Izor’s Sword
1 Iron of Explorer (forged with 1 Gift of Exploration + 50 Iron Ingot).
1 Iron of Soul (forged with 250 obsidian shards + 50 Iron Ingot).
1 Iron of Heroism (forged with 1 Pact Victory token + 50 Iron Ingot).

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Mighty Izor’s Sword (Exotic Quality)
“The sword is ready. Throw it in a volcano.”

Step 6 – Throw it inside the volcano of Mount Maelstrom:

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And then there’s an epic cinematic and then the legendary sword is yours.

Robotsonik.4935:

The name is not a reference towards any game mechanic, but instead a reference to the Guild Wars that rocked the world of Tyria long ago and are a part of its history.

This.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Guild_Wars

I can easily imagine your little brother saying “Hey, Mario, jump!” while playing Gameboy.

And then your character falls off a cliff. (:

No, definitly, desinstall this^^

Vigil.3408:

Qelris.6901:

I don’t think a single person has them all. There’s an achievement for legendary weapons.. and I doubt anyone has more than 2 or 3 legendaries.

Qelris.6901:

3 legendaries.

?_?

I’ve seen a French guy on my server already starting his second… So don’t see why an American crazy guy couldn’t have 3

1. WvW achievements are impossible, I’d be surprised if someone has managed to get a single one (example: capture 100.000 times Stonemist Castle).

2. Survivor title is bugged (stuck at 0) since release.

Guys, I think that you shouldn’t get your hopes up yet…

1. We know nothing about what they are going to do.
2. This seems to be only about precursors, so forget the epic journey to craft your legendary weapon.
3. The guy talking about that (John Smith) is the economist of the team. Proves they are concerned by the huge amount of money being exchanged (potentially by gold sellers) more than by your legendary weapon.

Considering 5 char slots = the price of the game,
and considering the game gives 5 char slots,

Or, we paid only for char slots and nothing else.
Or, we paid for char slots and content and char slots are not worth this price.

Considering the first option is wrong, well, char slots are not worth the current price… 10 bucks is what NCsoft wants for it, not the right price.

The “right” price would be like 1$ since it costs them almost nothing to store a character in their database.

But I think that it won’t change since NCsoft has paid X price to create the game and wants X + Y bucks in return. They’ll never get anything in return if they sell such things for a very low price.

Before I start, let me tell that WvW was a very good idea from developpers. In all videogames I’ve played, I’ve never really enjoyed PvP. In WoW for example, I was really bad at 1v1 situations simply because I wasn’t a stuff farmer. In GW2, it’s different. I can show the ennemy that I am smart, not just stuffed like hell.

Well… Even if it’s great sometimes, WvW is lacking things, everyone seems to agree with this. For example, sometimes, you just end up thinking, “Hey, why am I doing this for?”. Achievements? Fun? Ephemere victory? And then, none of these reasons seems to satisfy you…

So, let’s talk about several points and ideas.

• WvW : A Battle in The Mists

WvW is standing in the Mists, described as a “huge and mysterious” battlefield. I think that, WvW is lacking the “huge and mysterious” part. When you enter this portal, you’ll always know where you are going. The same battlefield, everyday, maybe a different side though.

My point is that the developpers could exploit that idea of “battlefield where you never know where you are going”. Every battle could have different battlefields, landscapes. That implies deleting vistas, point of interests, etc. well, map completion from WvW and make battles last a month, to let developpers the time to developp new maps.

• WvW : A Battle where YOU Build

In WvW, you can capture keeps, upgrade them, repair walls, doors, etc.. and that’s great! but these keeps are always on the same spots ; you’ll never build them yourself, you’ll never choose between several architectures.

My point is that, you could put “spots” for players to build on. For example, a huge square on the floor would tell players: “Here you can build a keep. Or another supply camp, since there are ressources around. CHOOSE.”, “Okay, so most players voted keep. Do you want a keep like this, or like that?”… “Now, bring supply and start building! Build the walls, the door, the tower, etc..”.

And then ennemy could try to stop this. And then players would try to protect it. It’s their keep! They have chosen to build it! They want to save it!

That would create a huge map which, when the first player arrives, nothing is built on, and they would have to do everything themselves.

• WvW : Rewards & Glory

We arrive to the main point. Objectives, rewards, glory! This is what should be WvW, when you arrive in the Mists. A place to collect ressources for your server, to build an empire on!

My first idea would be about ranking players. You could give them points for killing ennemies, building, conquering! And then the best players would be given the possibility to command, to have a blue icon with their name on the map, and not a guy who paid 100 gold!

Others would also be given karma, gold, insignas, skins as rewards! Do you see my point? Players would have tons of reasons to help their server!

Then we get to an another point: Server Rewards. Currently, you have to fight for a score, and the more points you get, the more your server has good bonuses. Generally, the good bonuses are there in the end of the week, and then, the next week, everything is erazed. A bit sad, that why I think it could be better. Different.

First, I think the score should be a tool to compare your progression on the map to others servers, but it should not be the main reason you fight for. You fight for ressources, to gather bonuses for your world ; and your ennemies want the same thing, so you are fighting harder. For example, the reason you would want to control a big mine would be “getting ore to increase the power of your homeworld by creating more weapons and armors”. And if you fight enough, in the end of the month, you’ll get like +1-2% of power against monsters, something like this.
Those bonuses should be slow, so that the maximum is really loooong to reach. So that the battle for ressources never ends.

• WvW : Unexpected Events

Imagine a huge dragon like Tequatl attacking a castle that you’ve built ; that’s the kind of unexpected things I’d love to see in WvW. That could be a good solution for several things ; the dragon could attack the winning server, because he’s powning everyone else, and he could give good reo fwards (precursors, lot of karma) to encourage servers to win against others servers to have a chance to face this dragon.

Of course, it doesn’t need to be huge scaled all the time ; Hyleks attacking your camp, a Demon Portal opening in your keep, etc…

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Well, I think that I have said everything I had in my head. My brain needs to rest, now I hope that some ideas interested you (and sorry for bad english, I’m French) and I’m curious to see the reactions of others players so, post a comment!

This is definitly not a Tyrian armor. Maybe should that be in Elona later?

I’ve also found a lot of references to the Arenanet team.

A kid in Queensdale was talking about Destiny Edge and the book written by “Joffan Grubbe”.
There’s also Foreman Flannum.
And there’s also a norn called Kolijn Johansson, walking in Hoelbrak. He says that he’s very busy and he talks about his job.

Probably more, but that’s all I remember. Those details are pretty awesome when you know Arenanet devs

Omega Mayhem.7163:

You’re assuming, very likely wrongly, that the last tier is 1,000,000. It’s more likely to be 250,000-300k.

I was thinking the same thing about Tier 4… “Noooo, it can’t be 100.000! ha! why would it be so…” so now I’m tired of hoping and I’m just using logic. Sad logic…

I wish a dev could just answer this but they are probably gonna hide or not even read, as always when we are complaining.

Omega Mayhem.7163:

And I hope you go into chat on your server and apologize to everyone for wasting supplies just so you can forward your achievement.

You should get an achievement and title for extreme selfishness.

Hey, repairing walls & doors is not always a bad thing^^ When I used 2k supplies at SC, it kept the ennemies away for a while. And nobody tried to destroy that stupid trebuchet destroying our walls.
Though I wish I could get a special title after all these hours throwing a hammer on these things :P

Alex Sanchez.6792:

lol i can’t believe this is seriously being discussed. Just play WvW and you’ll get it event, not that big a deal.

Dude, did you read the part about using 1.000 supply every day for 3 years? That’s not an exageration, that’s simple mathematic. And that implies that you WANT to use those supplies, because you can play WvW all day and use only 50-60 supply. Then you’d need to play all day for 50 years.

But, you know, we’re not all rich, so we must go to work/school, and we can’t afford to play all day everyday during 50 years.

Especially… for a single title?

So, yea, this is crazy and this has to be discussed.