Guild Wars 2

I’m not reacting to the nerfs until I play them. This is a totally different matter. Bugfixes should come before any kind of nerf.
However the nerf to Glint’s heal is totally pvp related and should only be in pvp, not also in pve, where it’s a subpar heal in most situations. With Shiro/Glint you basically have to rely on shield#5 to heal, that has been nerfed too!

Seriously, no nerf to mesmer yet? come on.

Why do we still have energy if almost every single skill has a cd? Thief skills with initiative have no cd. I understand that some skills don’t have to be spammable, but then at least lower the energy cost on them.

And fix stuff please. We still waste a lot of energy on things that do not work (hammer3, sword3, and so on).

Revenant still has many problems and feels like a beta class.
Jalis is still subpar, Mallyx has no cc and weak condi application, Glint has no underwater skills, but if you activate them on land they still work underwater (lol), so why we can’t select them? We also have no underwater skill build.

Rotating hammers are still not usable in the jungle because they fall off cliffs and are instantly destroyed on diagonal ground.

Hammer skill 3 still can’t hit targets below even if the animation is done and the energy is used.

Sword 3 still does not work if target is close to a wall. Well, it still consumes the energy and goes on cd…

I don’t think this is the right time to apply 5 nerfs. Complete the class first.

Nice guide, but full berserker is not optimal since you go past 100% crit rate most of the time under permanent fury.

No, it’s not. Thread.
Here, go annoy mesmer’s forum: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer

Pompeia.5483:

It will still work underwater with whatever you had activated on land before you went underwater. My boons were maintained even though the skills all vanish.

i can confirm this, but it makes no sense thatwe can’t use glint at all from underwater. also we can’t even “save” an underwater set, so we have to select mallyx again everytime.

It makes no sense…

Simply make it 300 instead of 400. Even 350 or 15 points from every HoT challenge would be better then how it is now.
Many people don’t have the time to farm so many points, expecially on Revenant, also while doing halloween stuff, story and so on.

Davi.4920:

Most of all the majority of the expansion I am enjoying, so well done and thank you.

The only issues I have is

- Hero points with champions. Great if your with a group or one comes to help. Not so great if not. I had an hour to kill before work this morning and thought to myself that I would get some hp. Unfortunately I did not get a single one due to no one being in the areas and I could not solo them. Either raise the pop cap or please allow these to scale down better.

- Mastery system. I like it. However the progressive amount of xp needed goes against the “same xp for 20 to 80” and isn’t the reason I play this game. More xp from events is needed to feel more rewarding.

Thanks again.

Also this. Mainly the fact that many hero challenges are simply impossible to solo even if you are incredibly skilled. And many of them are hard to reach, so you have to organiza groups to farm them. That doesn’t fit at all the GW2 playstyle and playerbase

TJgalon.5012:

Kidel.2057:

Is it retroactive?
Or us veterand are going to be cut out of this because we have a higher rank harder to increase?

I may be wrong, but don’t you earn a rank every 5,000 points, for every rank?

first 5 tanke 5 times less effort.
however veteran players have many characters to farm hero points one. I hope they don’t waste the chance to give a way to farm them more easily to the people who need it most.

New players don’t have a character at lv 80 anyway. And free players can’t even access wvw until lv 60.

Rym.1469:

As I requested, Flameseeker Prophecies + Crystal Hibernation should entomb you inside actual crystal for the duration.

+1

Or #4 becomes dragon breath. It would probably be easy to implement because they already have it.

Is it retroactive?
Or us veterand are going to be cut out of this because we have a higher rank harder to increase?

I do have it but it had no special effect on revenant in the last beta. Still looks cool

Glint is jack of all trades and master of none.
She is not the best at dps, not the best at support, not the best at tanking (supposedly) and has 0 condi management.
She just fits well in any legend combination.

She is good at supporting ventari, jalis, shiro and even mallyx

Glint is not superior to others. Just a better synergic legend (aoe boons are a good combo with every other legend). Glint+Shiro > Shiro+Mallyx/Ventari/whatever.

Glint+Glint wouldn’t be so great.

Shiro is probably the best legend overall.

I agree on Jalis and Mallyx needing tweaks and Ventari too. But that does not depend on Glint. You’ll still probably never run Shiro+Ventari

Half vuln and maybe damage is a nerf.
Projectile spreading far and returning should be considered.

I almost never had any issue with that attack. It was amazing 99% of the time

Burtnik.5218:

Kidel.2057:

Burtnik.5218:

Linfang.1087:

Roy I hope you won’t vanish on us after launch!

Kidel, we will get vuln with the attack.

This. Still dissapointed to not see any changes to Jalis tho.

Kidel.2057:

No news is goof news in this case. Can you just tell us how AA is going to change? Revenant has low aoe/cleave on AA except that projectile you’re removing. It uset to “emulate” cleave very well. Are we getting some range/buff to make up for it?

It was merged into one attack. 2 stack of vul on single atk etc.

All we know is here https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Brutal-Blade/first#post5585524

Going from a midrange bouncing attack with 2 vuln stacks to a normal melee attack with 3 targets and the same vuln stacks

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Brutal-Blade/first#post5586255

http://dulfy.net/2015/07/17/gw2-revenant-shiro-legend-and-sword-skills-livestream-notes/

All along from the reveal, bb had 2 vuln for 6 seconds. This is left unchanged, so depending on the cleave it could just be a nerf.

Maybe it was 4 vuln before, since it used to hit on the way back. So even on vuln it may be a nerf

Angier.1047:

Any plans on UI adjustments for Herald F2? The positioning is atrocious, imho.

Tweeted him on that right after herald reveal stream. He said it was not final. Hope it didn’t get scrapped from the backlog

Roy Cronacher.1576:

Linfang.1087:

Roy I hope you won’t vanish on us after launch!

Kidel, we will get vuln with the attack.

Nope, no vanishing.

I would probably stalk you. Kidding of course (am I?)

Jalis and Mallix need tweaks, but no major stuff, just numbers

Burtnik.5218:

Linfang.1087:

Roy I hope you won’t vanish on us after launch!

Kidel, we will get vuln with the attack.

This. Still dissapointed to not see any changes to Jalis tho.

Kidel.2057:

No news is goof news in this case. Can you just tell us how AA is going to change? Revenant has low aoe/cleave on AA except that projectile you’re removing. It uset to “emulate” cleave very well. Are we getting some range/buff to make up for it?

It was merged into one attack. 2 stack of vul on single atk etc.

All we know is here https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Brutal-Blade/first#post5585524

Going from a midrange bouncing attack with 2 vuln stacks to a normal melee attack with 3 targets and the same vuln stacks

Linfang.1087:

Roy I hope you won’t vanish on us after launch!

Kidel, we will get vuln with the attack.

It had vuln already https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Brutal_Blade

No news is goof news in this case. Can you just tell us how AA is going to change? Revenant has low aoe/cleave on AA except that projectile you’re removing. It uset to “emulate” cleave very well. Are we getting some range/buff to make up for it?

If you use glint as boonbot then you’re managing it in the less efficient way

Herald best class in the game.

I do enough pvp to say that supporters and bunkers are useful (with cele ele and necro being even meta). And I’ve tested druid enough to say it could win teamfights without the dmg buff

With dungeon reward nerf, raid and fractal 100 = pve endgame. So druid is basically mandatory in pve.

And I’m pretty sure they’ll be wanted in pvp and wvw too.

So pve, pvp and wvw.

Plus 0 damage is not an issue if you alone are passively 15% of the total group dps, while a revenant is at best 10% actively and 0.1% while in ventari

Seigfried.5938:

I use shiro/glint with devastation, invocation and herald. The only need to use retribution is for stability, but shiro has sufficient stun breakers

This.
The only thing shiro lacks is healing, but you have shield to compensate, and even hammer and staff have ways to heal (with hammer is 4+1 combo)

As many of us suggested, the cd on celestial avatar is a step in the right direction. With this change maybe Ventari/Guardian/Ele is able to compete.
However that 15% aoe damage buff is HUGE. I hope it has at least a 8s gcd so that it can be stacked only with more then one Druid .
If it has a 4-8s gcd then it’s godly design, solving many issues at once (druid damage and druid redundance), otherwise it would just make Druid more mandatory (150 aoe precision + 15% damage buff….).

Shiren.9532:

It won’t be up 100% of the time and it requires the druid to be using Celestial form which is almost 100% healing. Unlike warrior banners, Grace of the Land requires the druid to stop attacking and start healing to provide its buff, but after eight seconds the buff begins to disappear. Warrior banners are passively maintained, Grace of the Land is actively maintained and comes at the expense of offensive actions. The trait offsets the DPS loss the party takes when the druid stops attacking to heal, but it likely won’t boost overall DPS by very much.

It’s likely druid will either be mandatory or so strong you will want one anyway, regardless of whether or not it’s strictly needed.

Lingering Light requires celestial form, that still has a 67% uptime (20s every 30s), that’s an average 10% damage buff for more then 5 people.
Also because you keep healing it’s not a problem keeping it up.
Compare it to other healers. Basically Ventari and Guardian in healing gear/build do 0 damage and do not have unique buffs (just normal boons).

As many of us suggested, the cd on celestial avatar is a step in the right direction. With this change maybe Ventari/Guardian/Ele is able to compete.

However that 15% aoe damage buff is HUGE. I hope it has at least a 8s gcd so that it can be stacked only with more then one Druid .

Even factoring the 67% Celestial avatar uptime, that’s a 10% aoe damage buff.

If it has a 4-8s gcd then it’s godly design, solving many issues at once (druid damage and druid redundance), otherwise it would just make Druid more mandatory (150 aoe precision + 15% damage buff….)

You’re welcome! Keep making this game amazing guys, -9, hold on

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

Hey all,

Since the third beta weekend there’s been a lot of great feedback – thanks!

Below are some of the more solid changes to the Druid since the beta weekend that were made to address some concerns regarding net damage loss in a raid, celestial avatar form feeling gated by staff and glyph reward scaling.

• Grace of the Land: This trait has been re-worked. Instead of its former behavior, allies affected by your celestial avatar abilities gain 3% damage and condition damage increase for 8 seconds. This buff stacks 5 times.

• Lingering Light: This trait has been re-worked. Instead of its former behavior, when you heal an ally their next outgoing attack will heal them (based upon your healing) and blind their target.

• Glyph of Unity: This skill now has a 400 initial effect radius and a 600 radius leash.

• Glyph of Empowerment: The radius for this skill has been increased to 600.

• Glyph of Alignment: Increased the weakness and cripple duration on this skill from 3s to 5s. Reduced the cast damage by 66%. This skill now applies 3 stacks of poison.

• Ancestral Grace: Is now an evade and will immediately end upon reaching your destination.

• Celestial Avatar Form: Entering this form now has a 10s CD. Charging of Astral force by healing has been reduced by 40%. Charging of Astral force by outgoing strikes has been increased by 200%. You now retain half your current astral force if you decide to break form early.

• Celestial Avatar Form: Skills that heal have had their base heals reduced by 15-25% and increased their healing coefficients from 100-145%. This should leave base heals solid while really rewarding players who elect to use healing power stats.

• (Celestial Avatar) Lunar Impact: Reduced the daze on this skill from 3s to 2s. This skill is now ground targeted and will blast finish correctly.

Well wishes,
~Irenio

Bonus: Bristleback Pet F2 is no longer the Sharpen Spines ability. The F2 is now Spike Barrage to give you more rewarding control.

All great changes except Lingering Light. If it has no icd then it’s basically a passive 15% damage increase for the group, basically making druid mandatory for meta like chronomancer. To make a conparison, this trait alone is strong as 2 warrior banners. It should be 1% per stack or have icd so that it stacks only with more druids

Moving on location misses many members. We need a second heal on landing point

Random.4691:

I’m glad that all this extensive Raid testing has shown us that the Druid is the only reliable source of healing for raids. It couldn’t possibly have been that the Raid groups were using Druids because this was the first and only weekend for them to be played before release resulting in an over abundance of players playing Druid vs. other classes.

That couldn’t possibly be a major factor it would make waaaaay to much sense.

Other healers have been tested too, as well as other condi dps.
Even WP in his stream tried to use full cleric ventari rev and could not keep up. And they had a condi necro that they had to replace with another scrapper.

And yeah, please don’t nerf engi and druid (maybe a bit on cele charging), but buff other classes in condi and heal roles, otherwise we’ll be forced on a 4engi1druid party setup

Scrimschaw.5784:

Kidel.2057:

Oh, and just to be clear, Druid was in every single group that beat the first raid boss.
That’s a fact.
It was the only healer of choice. No other healer could have done the same. If Druid is nerfed then we are screwed. So please just buff other healers and put a cd on Cele Avatar, so the class is not just immune to condi (lol) and it may really be “burst” and not “sustained burst”.

Kidel, from what I recall, at least one of these groups said that having a Druid was nice, but not necessary. Nor would I want a dedicated heavy-healer to be necessary for raids. This is why I have consistently argued for versatility in Druid, at the expense of base healing.

Additionally, some of Druid’s functionality came from bugged behaviors in the raids. Spirits and pets did not take damage from many attacks, and they counted as “players” for the lightning orb AoEs. Once these bugs are fixed, Druid’s support will be significantly reduced (as a Druid singlehandedly could spawn spirits on top of the lightning orb AoEs, recall their pet, and keep their party from wiping).

Are you denying that druid kept a group of 10 people hp full alone?
I still remember the druid in the first kill video saying “I’m just spamming heals on the boss”

Ventari Revenant has less dps then druid if you factor the same gear. Managing the tablet hinders your dps. Druid has the pet and heals while attacking. Plus stunbreaks, perma protection and regen, no energy management, area targeted bursts.

I like the suggestion that tablet should be faster and do a second heal at location after movement. That alone would fix many issues.

Right now to heal you have to move the tablet past your allues, then move it back to use other area skills.
It should be moved directly on your group and heal more.

I still remember the druid in the first kill video saying “I’m just spamming heals on the boss”.
A healer so easy to use t be so much superior to the others

Roy Cronacher.1576:

I’ve gotten lots of feedback, increasingly so with time, about this part of the sword auto-attack chain. I’ll be changing this skill so that it will no longer use a projectile attack and instead it will become a normal melee attack which applies vulnerability.

The attack, while working, was amazing and used to hit many targets. I hope it doesn’t end up to be a nerf

Aomine.5012:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

This was constructive until the booty blasted ranger started telling us that its ok for ventari to be subpar because lol dps revenant.

How about compare the heal with Cleric Ele and Cleric Guardian too?

You calling your Ventari subpar, while still perform better in healing than those 2.

Ehm, because I did? You simply don’t read anything. You quote and write random stuff.
Cleric Guardian and Ventary are not much different, and Cleric Ele may even be superior because of the water fields. Still all 3 are WAY inferior to Druid, mayly because Druid only has to spam stuff with no brain involved and bring a party from 0 to 100 with no healing power and no need to spend time to load celestial form.

Aomine.5012:

And a ranger is NOT needed if he’s not a Druid.

Do you understand that this is also a problem, right?

The same reasoning we are bringing on with Ventari and Druid can be said for Scrapper and Ranger. Condi Ranger won’t be useful in raid because condi Scrapper is too much superior. So yeah, you’ll be forced to play Druid. Does it make you happy?
It doesn’t make me happy.

I don’t want Revenant to be only a dps in raids, and I don’t want Rengers to be only a healer and the only mandatory healer, as I don’t want each raid game to have at least 4 Scrappers.

We are talking about Ventari in this thread. Teams had Revenants, of course, but none of them as healer, since Druid was mandatory.
I’m not dodging the question, I’m simply ignoring your off topic matters.
Read the title again: “How can Ventari compete with Druid?”, and now concentrate on the bold part. Can you do it?

I don’t care if dps Revenant is still useful, I care about the game, and I don’t want to play a game when I’m forced to wait and depend from 1 single spec (Druid) that is played by 1-5% of the playerbase. And I don’t even want Renger friends to play Druid because it’s what we need. They should be able to not use the elite spec and do dps Ranger.

Sarif.1827:

Calm down, take a deep breath and play the content a bit. the numbers are clearly being worked on, so there is no need to min/max kitten this early. More so, with a complete lack of access to the content in question, all of this is just speculation.

We are giving feedback, constructive feedback, as they asked. Numbers are not going to be figured out easily without it.

@Aomine
Not as dedicated healers. 100% sure. No group closed beta raid without Druid as healer (and in berserker gear, lol). No group closed beta raid with Ventari Revenant. No group closed beta raid with Water spec cleric Elementalist or cleric Mesmer. I laugh just by thinking about it.

And please stop saying that I want something i never asked for. It’s called “lying” or “trolling”. So please stop if you don’t want to be reported.

Just to be (more) clear. Yes, I want a Ventari buff, and a Cleric Guardian buff, and a Cleric Mesmer buff and a Water Ele buff. All of them to be 8/10 of what Druid is. So Druid is still better, but not 2 times better.

I don’t want Rangers to not be relevant. I’d love for us to stay in a good spot (my second oldest character is a Ranger), as for Necro.
And you may want to check it again, since condi damage is now important and Rengers have a lot of it (not in Druid spec, of course). Reaper is just awesome, so yeah, check again.

But, just to be clear, Druid was in every single group that beat the first raid boss.
That’s a fact. This is not “being relevant”, this is “being mandatory”.
It was the only healer of choice. No other healer could have done the same. If Druid is nerfed then we are screwed. So please just buff other healers and put a cd on Cele Avatar, otherwise the class is just immune to conditions (lol) and it’s “sustained burst” instead of “burst” as intended.

There is a HUGE difference between “in a good spot” and “mandatory”.

I just want a second choice when making a group.

@Daniel
It takes 2 seconds to load Celestial avatar in a group. There is footage for it. 3-4 seconds solo using pet.
Basically 87% uptime, and Druid can also heal outside Celestial Avatar and without “orbs” on ground, just by attacking.

@Aomine
Plenty of people here, me included, play Ventari. I even have a full healing power set prepped on my mule/bank and an ascended celestial Staff.

Oh, and just to be clear, Druid was in every single group that beat the first raid boss.
That’s a fact.
It was the only healer of choice. No other healer could have done the same. If Druid is nerfed then we are screwed. So please just buff other healers and put a cd on Cele Avatar, so the class is not just immune to condi (lol) and it may really be “burst” and not “sustained burst”.

Aomine.5012:

Kidel.2057:

Are you blinded by your rage or what?

I don’t care if Ranger is better then Revenant at everything, I don’t even care if it’s better then everything at something.
What bugs me is that Druid is the better healing by far then every other class.
Again, not just better, but better by far.

Druid can be the best healer. It’s an elite spec. I just don’t want it to be double as effective as any other class. The difference is just too huge.

I do not have rage toward you or Ventari.
My rage is on Druid not Revenant, because it’s such a disappointment.

Go on enjoy that best healing while it lasts.

If you think Druid is disappointing then you were either especting a dps spec (called Druid? lol, this is not WoW, go read some GW lore) or you have no idea of what a Druid can do.

No wonder Druid was in every single group that beat the first raid boss.
That’s a fact.

AgitatedFox.5287:

Swagger.1459:

The more I read about Revenant, the less excited I am about Ranger and Druid.

It’s cool to have a bow and pet for aesthetic reasons, but everything Revenant seems to be far superior from what I’m reading. Along with the option to be a better sustained healer, Revenant also other goodies to support their team. I get the feeling that Revanant will completely outshine Ranger in every aspect and game mode.

Of course Revenant will be a better sustained healer. Druid isn’t a sustained healing spec. It’s burst.

Because they said that charging Celestial avatar takes a lot. It takes 2 flat seconds in a group. So atm Druid is sustained burst.

Atm Revenant IS NOT a better sustained healer. Can average 600k total healing in a pvp match, while Druid is above 900k. So it’s better at average/sustained heal and also burst.

And can heal blindfolded. Ground targeted spam on group. Ventari is far harder to use.

Are you blinded by your rage or what?

I don’t care if Ranger is better then Revenant at everything, I don’t even care if it’s better then everything at something.
What bugs me is that Druid is the better healing by far then every other class.
Again, not just better, but better by far.

Druid can be the best healer. It’s an elite spec. I just don’t want it to be double as effective as any other class. The difference is just too huge.

Nocta.5274:

As it stands, unless balance is adressed, there’s no reason to run classes that don’t fit into this setup :

1 tank ( which can be multiple things )
Power revenant
Warrior
Chronomancer
Ele or another revenant
4 Sinister Engi
Druid

Anything else is pure handicap to the overall utility and damage of the group, which is something that definitely needs to be addressed.

Basically this.

You can’t replace Druid with an equivalent. There is no equivalent.
You can maybe replace 1 engi with 1 condi Ranger, but that’s all.

If you don’t have 3 you will need something with toughness gear to keep boss hate from Scrappers (vale guardian goes to the one with more toughness), lowering your overall dps and lowering your condi dps A LOT.

So either nerf Red Guardian raw dps immunity and lower Engi condi damage, or raise some class condi damage as well, while providing some way to keep hate on you without having Scrappers steal it.

Also please give other classes viability as healers. Ther cannot be 1 druid mandatory in any group.

Leodon.1564:

Jerus.4350:

Healing, well lets be honest, druid’s going to get nerfed, this was the first beta pass.

Agreed.

Don’t factor Druid into any of this as its too raw and unpolished at the moment. It was rushed out at 50% of where it should be so its far away from being in a state where you can accurately judge its capabilities.

I don’t thing it’s going to get nerfed, I don’t think it should be nerfed at all.
First of all they’ll just probably move a good part of the healing from base to healing power multiplier. Nomad Druid will just be as strong as zerker Druid is now, and it’s fine.
Maybe I’ll add a cd or a different charge rate to Celestial Avatar. 2-3 seconds to fully load it and nocd+13 condi cleansed with no icd is a bit too much.

What should be done is to make other healers able to compete. To say like “ok, no Druid tonight, do we have at least a Ventari Revenant with healing gear?”

And I believe this is what Colin said at Pax.
Am I wrong? Didn’t he say he didn’t want people to be forced to wait for a specific class?

Can you read?

Kidel.2057:

You can’t do condi damage on Revenant by using Ventari. You spec into Mallyx/Corruption. Same with Ranger, of course.

I’m not talking about Ranger doing condi damage with Druid spec, but about Rangers being able to be the second best condi dps in the game, 10 times better then the best condi Revenant build. And also Druid (with a different spec from condi Ranger, in case it’s not clear enough) being better then any other healer class in the entire game. With and without healing power.

And again, my point is not Druid > Ventari, but Druid = the only healer worth taking in a group.

Easier to use
Heals more
Heal is sustained AND burst

Aomine.5012:

Kidel.2057:

Aomine.5012:

Kidel.2057:

Projectile reflection does nothing in raid, and raid is everything that matters in pve.

Kinda sad way of thinking lol..
HF spamming them endlessly.

Whatever. Does it really matter when aura tempest can keep aoe magnetic aura up all time?

And By the way, currently Rangers can do like 10 times the condi dps of a Revenant. So they’re better at healing, ranged dps, condi dps.
But that doesn’t matter at all.

I don’t care if Ranger is better then Revenant at everything,* I don’t even care if it’s better then everything at something.*

What bugs me is that Druid is the better healing by far then every other class.
Again, not just better, but better by far.

At the beginning of this thread I was just worried Druid could be far better, now we just know it. We just didn’t know how ofter Celestial Avatar could be spammed.
Roy then said it was more like a burst and you had to load it up slowly.

Now, is 3 seconds with no cd “slow” to you?

10 times condition where?

Druid’s skills ha no condition at all.

Traps? You sacrifice all utilities for traps, meaning your support gets way lower.

Torch? You sacrifice warhorn and miss the group buff and blast finisher for this (and you have to hold staff constantly)

Seriously, if you really thing Druid is that good, you wouldn’t be posting here. You’d post in Druid’s forum. You will still play Revenant because you know it’s a better class.

You care because you want this Revenant to exceed everything Druid can do, on top of other things you have.

I said “Ranger”, not “Druid”.
In case you missed, Druid is not a new class, but a Ranger spec.
You can’t do condi damage on Revenant by using Ventari. You spec into Mallyx/Corruption. Same with Ranger, of course.

Condi Ranger > Condi Revenant (by far atm)
Heraler Ranger (=Druid) > Ventari Revenant (by far atm)

Is that clear enough for you now?

And what reasoning is that? I do not play “the best class”. I would be main Ele by now lol.
I play the class I like and I want the game to be balanced.
Being forced to pick 1 Druid in each Raid encounter IS NOT HEALTHY for this game.

Ald let me repeat the question:
Now, is 3 seconds with no cd “slow” to you?
Is Druid burst healing or sustained burst healing? Because I’ve seen druid videos in rain, and they are in cele form all the time.

Aomine.5012:

Kidel.2057:

Projectile reflection does nothing in raid, and raid is everything that matters in pve.

Kinda sad way of thinking lol..
HF spamming them endlessly.

Whatever. Does it really matter when aura tempest can keep aoe magnetic aura up all time?

And By the way, currently Rangers can do like 10 times the condi dps of a Revenant. So they’re better at healing, ranged dps, condi dps.
But that doesn’t matter at all.

I don’t care if Ranger is better then Revenant at everything,* I don’t even care if it’s better then everything at something.*

What bugs me is that Druid is the better healing by far then every other class.
Again, not just better, but better by far.

At the beginning of this thread I was just worried Druid could be far better, now we just know it. We just didn’t know how ofter Celestial Avatar could be spammed.
Roy then said it was more like a burst and you had to load it up slowly.

Now, is 3 seconds with no cd “slow” to you?