Guild Wars 2

Um… equip dragon legend:P

Tbh there is no problem at all with tablet. Just needs practice.

Also numbers don’t matter in all. What matters is whether dmg kills or not and heals saves from death or not.

Rym.1469:

Been watching stats at the end of each Stronghold match. From game to game my healing to allies seem to increase by 20-30k, with currently best score of over 700k healing to allies. If I included myself, it’d be over 1kk.

And still 300k damage done on Clerics with Monk runes. With incredible uptime on Protection and permanent swiftness, might, fury and regen healing better than HealSig. All AoE.

Glint/Ventari…That’s like the most beautiful support I have ever played :_;

It is indeed! Enjoyed it a whole lot more than I thought I would. Now if I could get easy monk runes without going to dungeons :P

PS

Change Rune of Monk to Rune of Altruism. Fury and 3 stacks of Might to allies every 10s is nice

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_Altruism

Since Ventari’s Will counts as heal and has 2s cd and rune has 10s ICD

Format your text. Wall of unformatted text crits killyox for 99999

Elite specs can only be placed in the bottom line.

Herald + ventari ftw

VH heal vs many monsters it’s insanely good even for berserk rev. Due to speed and # if targets it heals really fast. Lots of targets + hammers + sword 3 for evade and watch your health speed up ????

Wtb Condi reflect on it so only stuff like daze stun etc work

Needs to be bigger for sure. I lost half of it from mob soft cc

Sully.9453:

Killyox.3950:

You can use skills instantly after leg swap before skills load on bar.

Except impossible odds. I’ve found it won’t activate till a couple seconds after swap even though i’ve got the 50% energy

Actually it works for me. Might be a glint, facet thing since io takes 10 pips itself.

So if you had any upkeep there might be slight delay although switching from vengeful hammers to IO worked fine.

You can use skills instantly after leg swap before skills load on bar.

It’s a l2p issue. The problem is people try to use everything at once all the time. That is not how rev plays. All of it ale. It’s AOE too. So yeah. Switching legend is not mandatory if benefits don’t exceed what you can do without switching.

It’s about having a choice and using what you need and when you do. Energy management part is about predicting and not being energy starved when you need it.

Today I was playing herald ventari support. While running I would stack fury swiftness and regen. In combat I would overload facet of nature and switch to ventari and use shield 4 and ventari’s will and natural harmony. So I provided boons, very long regeneration, fury and swiftness then I backed people with huge amounts of healing and overloaded facet of nature on CD while in ventari. I didn’t switch legends on CD because having on demand burst heals that put personal heals to shame was more valuable. I would let my energy build up during less intense periods to have a lot of it to burst heal when needed.

It’s similar for other builds. Decisions. Sure you can get 50% end on swap but that doesn’t mean it’s the best decision to make because that depends on circumstances.

Believe it or not I saved a lot of people’s rears. Because if someone gets a heal for 3300 3500 2000 and regeneration still ticks for 425 then that’s the health he was missing and a lot more than he would’ve healed with personal CD.

Just wanted to say it’s great!

With Shield #4 + ventari and Runes of Monk this is insane.

With Natural Harmony I can constantly do 3,5k heals in aoe.

Shield #4 does 3,3k outgoing healing for me

Ventari’s Will besides giving protection (dunno from where:P) heals for 2k on passing through

Regeneration heals 425 per sec.

All in all I tried it vs some legendary drake on the new map and I felt like it did have an impact on peoples survival.

Basically all that healing + protection on allies + vengeful hammer from trait (does weakness and is awesome) felt really cool.

What I am trying to say is I am pleasantly surprised. Until today I was pretty much “meh” about ventari and not interested but now liking it.

My gear was Apothecary+ runes of monk +Mace/Shield // Mace/Axe combo. Gonna try staff too.

I liked them. I feel cheated they removed them from kits… . Was part reason why I rolled engie.

They should make it a toggle option to have it like it used to be for those of us who want it.

They way they did it is screw one group of people to satisfy another group.

On the other hand it’s more useful in spvp to move people from points.

Auto attacks even if interrupted don’t get +cd. So if someone spams headsot you can AA him to deaht ;p

Also blinds, dodges, baits etc.

it’s more of a mobility skill that’s quick I guess. Balance?

Kocoff.7582:

So this is what it mean?

It grants 10 Endurance, when you first activate it for the time in combat?
So if the fights lasts 2 minutes, and you are still in combat, it won’t give 10 endurance anymore?

No no, like you have fist flurry > palm strike

When you activate Fist Flurry you get 10 Endurance, when you use palm strike you don;t get endu. It goes then on CD and next time you use Fist Flurry even if still in combat it will give 10 endurance.

And it’s like that for each pysical skill.

No. They have said many of these would be OP so you get endurance only when you activate physical skill for the first time before it is put on CD.

I found sword + shield really good in PvE. Along with traits focused on slowing and different effects on interrupts.

Then you have us, engineers, with lots of fields and lots of finishers

Jayce.5632:

You guys are lucky. If they were serious when setting you on fire, you wouldn’t last very long. Below is what 13k-16k ticks looks like. Dead in almost 3 seconds. Had I’d gone the distance and survived for 9 seconds, they would have been on pace for dealing 111k-144k burn damage.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/List-of-OP-traits-skills/first#post5216329

48510 : 14 = 3465 on average. Where do you see 13-16k tcks there?

I don’t think 13-16k is even possible in pvp. Surely not in spvp.

Roy Cronacher.1576:

Killyox.3950:

Roy Cronacher.1576:

NapTooN.6283:

Think of the Legends as Utility Categories like with the others Professions.

Shiro is Traps, Jalis is Survival, Ventari is Shouts. if you only spent a few points into Shiro, you only get 1 or 2 Skills in the Legend. If you want the whole legend, you have to spent the points for every skill like with the other Professions.

Basically this explains it pretty well.

So basically all or nothing because you can’t have cross legend skills and the more you put in the more expensive skills are meaning you will unlock less skills than another class.

You will unlock everything besides elite spec by level 80, just like any other profession. The order you choose to unlock them is up to you. You can mix two legends early on to be able to equip two legends and use a few skills of each on each. Such as unlocking the heal and first utility skill on two legends, then switching back and forth between those two legends.

Thanks for clarification. Haven’t leveled new char in the new system at all

A bit of a side question but @level 80 do Tomes of Knowledge give xp towards mastery?

Redeeming Protection is 10x better than eye for an eye. 5s ICD with 3s prot on disables is a lot of uptime and pretty consistent dmg reduction.

Eye for an eye has kitten ICD and and its usability is really kitten low.

Venom enhancement is indeed terrible. Maybe they made it with Mallyx elite in mind and copying? Who knows.

tbh in a fight with more people pain absorption is insane. I also like Mallyx elite with blind on myself. AoE blind every 1 sec around me ?! HELL YEAH! Same with chills, immobilizes and other conditions that you resist but apply to others. Do want.

They don’t have to be alive. They don’t have to be the same.

Mists are the beginning of all creation. The past, present and the future as well as all realities at once.

Think of legends as “imprint” of the fabric of creation. Even if they died their imprint is left there. ANet at one point said that technically there could be legends from the future because of this (that we do not know) but that they decided to use past legends.

So shiro can be dead but his imprint was left in the mists forever after.

Samhayn.2385:

Yeah for now, then when most of those super hardcore players can’t complete it with in the first week you’ll have the forums full of people saying. “I know I’m good and if I can’t do it, it must be too hard pls nerf”

Pretty much this haha.

I bet that 90% of people who wanted hard content will QQ if difficulty exceeds their skill and they blame it on million different things but not themselves.

tl;dr this thread is ridiculous

Why Raids shouldn’t be expansion only? That’s logic fail tbh.

People got what they paid for with Core Guild Wars 2. They weren’t cheated. Where does all this entitlement to free stuff gets from?

This is an EXPANSION that costs a lot of cash to make. It provides new content and if you want it you buy it, so do your friends, If they want raids they buy it. If not they don’t buy it. Simple really. They got to decide what’s more important to them.

They alread have access to everything they paid for before. There is absoltuely no reason why HOT content should be free for core players. What would be the purpose behind making an expansion or even buying it if it was free?

Tell your friends to drink less beer, eat less pizza, don’t go to cinema or w/e. Adults need to have priorities. If they don’t have money for it because they rather buy different thing that’s ok but don’t expect that other things will be handed for free.

I just thought of Grasping Wall. Combination of Spectral Wall + Spectral grasp. Pulling people to the wall and chilling them while giving allies walking through it a protection :P

Zefrost.3425:

Glad someone is using their brain. It should obviously be a fear. We have a daze… why?

Maybe because it’s not technically a condition and cannot be cleansed? Who knows :P

This is such a good thread. Lets make balance changes before actually playing the thing!

Staff 1 is 0,5s, how much faster do you want it to be?

Your prop for Skill 4 is pretty OP especially with Pulmonary Strike trait.

Bryzy.2719:

GW2 has been out for 3 years and people still haven’t learned that an MMO can’t function without even a small level of trinity.

Guardians and warriors are tankiest
Elementalists, Guardians (and close second, Rangers) are the best healers
Thieves and warriors are the best DPS
Necros are the best at applying conditions (aka best debuffers)

Except you are wrong :P Condi engineer with sinister gear on 14th second outdpses everything in the game atm.

Necros are far from best condi applicants, Ele and Engie make them jelly in that regard.

How do you measure tankiness? Sure warriors got armor and HP but many classes got invuls and lots of blinds too and necros have Death Shroud.

“my elite group” yeah… . Ping gear? How is that a problem to ping fake gear:P

I also don’t see players crying out for this. I see most people here bashing the idea actually.

I wouldn’t want dps meters in GW2 even though in wow on raids i am constantly #1 in guild. Diff kind of experience here.

You can also easily tell if someone messes up or not.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Killyox.3950:

People think that dps is the only metric that is important. What if someone doesn’t get downed, avoids all dmg and performs fight mechanically very good but does 30% less dmg than a dude that needs to be constantly revived and messes up mechanics making fight all around harder because NUMBERZ!

Anybody remembers tanks in wow standing in aoe to ramp up vengeance? to dps moar ?:P

So the other guy that constantly died still did 30% more damage than the guy that was alive the whole time?

That is exactly the reason we need a dps meter. The fight was dragging on so long because the second guy did 30% less dps than a dead guy.

We definitely need some metrics to tell us why we can’t complete a fight. If you can’t figure out what is wrong then you can’t fix it. damage meters are a minimum barrier of entry for raids.

Raids will fail as content if we can not accurately determine who/what needs to improve.

No, you fail to see what I said. Dude did more dps but failed at mechanics, mechanics that could kill other people or make boss heal himself or not do something else that ended up messing the fight because he was tunnel vision dpsing.

If I switch to Ventari to have that anti projectile bubble to keep raids kitten safe it costs me dps but people live. If someone else does not do it because he wants NUMBAZ! then you die for example.

in spvp afaik everyone has access to every elite

Tbh I find perma fury + perma protection a lot more valuable from grp perspective On demand as well.

Roy Cronacher.1576:

NapTooN.6283:

Think of the Legends as Utility Categories like with the others Professions.

Shiro is Traps, Jalis is Survival, Ventari is Shouts. if you only spent a few points into Shiro, you only get 1 or 2 Skills in the Legend. If you want the whole legend, you have to spent the points for every skill like with the other Professions.

Basically this explains it pretty well.

So basically all or nothing because you can’t have cross legend skills and the more you put in the more expensive skills are meaning you will unlock less skills than another class.

Hard to say. Reserved 23rd and 26th from work because friend wanted me to so we could play. As such I will most likely start with my engineer + elite spec and when we are not playing together will TOK rev to 80, set his egar up and then maybe switch. Depends on engie elite spec too. I will probably have 2 mains at this point with possible focus on Rev later on due to being all new shiny.

That + been playing engie ever since first GW2 Closed Beta :P

Azure.8670:

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Roy Cronacher.1576:

I play everything, but I’ll definitely be focusing on Revenant for HoT launch.

I’d certainly hope so! :p

I was about to scoff at the “everything” comment, but then I thought, that’s actually a good idea for balancing.

Doesn’t everyone play every clas?

Nope. I find most of them boring due to playing engineer. :P

The engineer is a micro-heavy class. Even autoattacks in some cases. Think it through whether you want such class. It’s very fun and interesting but you need to switch in and out of kits a lot and feel cooldowns and skills.

Myxam.2790:

I did want rifle, but that’s not what its about. They could have given thieves a Warhorn if it’d been balanced. This ain’t.

And you know this how? Do you come from future where meta already shaped up with all the new specs and changes or what?

Mrrrr Distracting Daggers + Pulmonary Impact upon interrupt. Very like, much excite

“your heart will explode”

People think that dps is the only metric that is important. What if someone doesn’t get downed, avoids all dmg and performs fight mechanically very good but does 30% less dmg than a dude that needs to be constantly revived and messes up mechanics making fight all around harder because NUMBERZ!

Anybody remembers tanks in wow standing in aoe to ramp up vengeance? to dps moar ?:P

…when they come for you. (that follows “what you gonna do”)

Rev/herald test, Thief test.

redcomyn.4651:

So the first step to WoW-ification has occurred. I wonder how long it will take for the next “oh so reasonable” step, and exactly what that step will be.

LOL. Because taking good things and making them is bad right? Go see how many things wow took from other games. Like 90%. What you cal wowification already existed long before. Everquest had raids before wow existed. Ultima Online had open non instanced dungeons before any other mmo.

I will reserve judgement for AFTER release and having had played for some time already.

Well, Colin did say the best will be last when he was talking about engineer iirc :P

So I would say it’s probable that Druid is next in line.

I still wonder why after having all skills before change, after change i had to buy them again… . Anyways, even after that I still got enough to get it from get-go on engineer. Rev will require more work though.

This is actually something they thought about doing at the very beginning but in the end decided not to. You can dig up some years old info about it.

Glad they didn’t do it. Prefer more class identity.

There are no Elite Classes, only Elite Specializations.

So yes, you can play your guardian and have a Longbow IF and only IF you take Dragonhunter specialization as one of your 3 specs.

IndigoSundown.5419:

Killyox.3950:

I feel people nowadays want everything for free and to never actually earn anything.

It’s ok. You don’t have to have ascended gear. I don’t and I live.

Because wanting a way to get something other than the “prescribed” way is wanting something for nothing…

Logic failure…

That was a general statement in regard to an entirety of forum. That’s why “i feel people”. So who’s failing logic here? I didn’t point at anyone. Just general sentiment about what’s going around these forums for quite some time now.

Also you can want but they are not obliged to deliver that to you. Lots of people want a lot of different things. Often they contradict each other so that’s a no-go. What I said is also true. If he doesn’t like it he doesn’t need to do it. I dislike crafting so I don’t do it. It’s just that simple really. If you want more then work towards it.

CandyHearts.6025:

Killyox.3950:

I feel people nowadays want everything for free and to never actually earn anything.

It’s ok. You don’t have to have ascended gear. I don’t and I live.

You really should read an entire thread before you make assumptions about what it’s about.

Nobody here wants something for doing nothing. Its the process of the something and only purpose of that something that makes it very very awful.

Then as you read on you would see the OP wouldn’t mind earning the gear in other ways. Those ways taking a decent amount of time as well.

Some people just wanna be rude to be rude. hmph!

There’s literally nothing rude about my post. I don’t get where you get the idea that it is? I gave advice that I myself followed. I dislike crafting so I don’t do it. No sleep lost over it. Earning in other ways… see above. Many people would want to earn it in other ways as well and these ways may contradict each other. They won’t give in to wants of people for the sake of satisfying everybody because it’s impossible.

I would want a piece of ascended gear of my choice for every 7th day logged reward instead of whatever it is right now. Does it mean ANet should do it because I want to pursue it in that way ?