Nah cant this map be made for custom maps with 10 player team sizes?
If so, we can have better matches in Custom. This map would be better for 10v10
I’ve been enjoying Druid a lot personally.
I like it as well. the only people that didn’t like it or the people who were running Berserker druid
learn to bring a druid!
And the revenant Ventari/Shiro will be the healers that are going to raids or PvE. Druid will not.
Ummm, Ventari/Shiro is worse at boons than druids. Shiro is a very selfish legend and only offers quickness/ personal dps. Ventari has very little boons (gets them from traits mainly, usually in Glint). If Rev’s come as healers, they’ll most likely come as Ventari/ Glint.
Anyways, as someone who is torn between maining Druid and Herald, in terms of healing Druid is 100x better. More sustain (if you can heal 90% of the time that’s sustain to me) and a hell of a lot more burst – no other profession in the game can pull off 16k burst heals (in 1s) every 20s (Guardian’s elite can do 100% heal but is on a 3min cd).
The one thing I do agree with is outside of healing, where the kitten is the dps, particularly on CA form?
What are you even on – Druid doesn’t even have boons unless you count stealth and superspeed when you get out of shroud
Anywhere where you need heals that “big” are in situations where your going to get 1 or 2 shooted anyway so it doesn’t matter .
Boons > Heal always
yeah with that logic that’s why necromancers use minion heal. Sinxe Since heals arent important. ..
you told us what? because I’ve been doing just fine in PvP
Druid is meta in pvp. In a good organized group Druid is dominant. Only when team dont know how to play team, and leave you in a 2vs1 situation or worst to guard a point by yourself will things go bad. Otherwise Druid is Meta. The burst heals are out of this world. Druid can keep Stronghold lord and Fae lord up from heals until allies get there to handle the situation.
I asked about people who played alongside the Druid not people who played the Druid. ..
Your welcome.
Thanks! Like the good news
Please make the Seed of Life skill look a little more like a “blossom” and a little less like a zit. Every time I use a glyph it’s like, “Eeeeww.”
I did lol just now
I asked about people who played alongside the Druid not people who played the Druid. ..
As a mostly solo/casual player in PvE and PvP I hate Druid. Surviving is not fun for me, I chose RANGER as a Range Burst class, for hunting down, and kiting bosses while doing GOOD DPS (not best DPS but good enough for simple casual playing ). Now I have heavy Support Elite Specialization… useless for me, staff no fun.
Its looks like arena goes for Trinity..
People already came up with good range burst druid builds. I have been playing power druid whole night and it works pretty well.
It is really yourself, like many others, limit your own horizon to that druid being a pure healing support.
Well, yah you still can have fun untill you start comparing Druid to other Elite specialization, where Druid really fall short. Druid has bad synergy with rest renger specialisations (I would say no synergy at all exept healing ), Selestial form is pretty good but compered to Death Shroud mechanics, its a joke (its very short, you can go in to it only when its full, if you get out of form all energy gone )
Druid gives the the most of any elite specialization in terms of new play style compared to the rest of the Elite specializations
Lol you lost all credit there. If you believe a Guardian can dish out as much healing as a single Druid…… yeah I wont argue with you on this much. Clearly you have not played healer in SPvP yet with Druid….. go back to your Power Ranger Druid dude…..
It’s obvious from all your posts that you’re a healing fanboy. I’m sure you did great in other MMOs with healing, but GW2 has never been about the heals. There’s other ways to keep people up rather than just healing through it all, which you will not be able to do. GW2 players have been doing it this entire time.
Learn the other classes.
well it is now! developers words laugh out loud
Druid is 100% healing and little else. Guardian provides strong group healing as well as Aegis/stability/protection.
My consensus after actually playing the druid: Guardian support is still better.
druid supply more healing than a Guardian could ever dish out..
druid also has some powerful CCs thats can be the safety of their allies. They provide bonus damage to group and again have to mention the CCs. Druid is a beast. Maybe you played with some bad Druids perhaps?
Did anybody here play alongside a Druid in SPvP?
How was your experience?
The heal is pretty much defiance stance which been in the game
Lol you lost all credit there. If you believe a Guardian can dish out as much healing as a single Druid…… yeah I wont argue with you on this much. Clearly you have not played healer in SPvP yet with Druid….. go back to your Power Ranger Druid dude…..
It’s obvious from all your posts that you’re a healing fanboy. I’m sure you did great in other MMOs with healing, but GW2 has never been about the heals. There’s other ways to keep people up rather than just healing through it all, which you will not be able to do. GW2 players have been doing it this entire time.
Learn the other classes.
well it is now! developers words laugh out loud
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Does anyone actually like the glyph elite? Seems pretty useless…it has potential though but it doesn’t seem to work half the time.
I use it. Its where i get most of my damage from. Very good tool.
Its a support/defensive weapon.. what did you all expect?
Some support and defense would be nice.
Its a support/defensive weapon.. what did you all expect?
Which is totally redundant because it charges the AF to enter CAF which is also a support/defensive form. The staff would be miles better off with less healing and more damage.
Totally disagree. Staff been great as is. I like all its tools. It has defense tools, a cc, a blast movement control, a AoE heal at target location and the AA is great. Only Wasp need buff. Thats pretty much it.
i dont play Staff Druid to be Berserker meta
No need to be overly defensive. Also no one here mentioned zerker meta… it’s about clear differentiation of roles and you’re not loosing anything basically. This is no just about staff it’s also about celestial form as well.
If I want to support my team I’d like to have all my tools available. If I have to quit my support form just to provide projectile to healing wall and vice versa, it’s not only incoveneient, I think it’s poorly thought out and just creates needless artificial complexity.
For example:
If Natural Convergence were a staff skill you’d be able to lock down enemy > pet cc > trigger Ancient Seeds. So it’d have some solo application as well instead of just being reliant on other ppl to do something during that time window.And on top of it all, let’s be frank, thematically, healing wall fits better in celestial form than staff and that single damaging skill in celestial form won’t make any difference damage wise because it’s not where it should be.
Once again I disagree because Staff 5 is also a water field to go with Staff 3, and need more uptime. Putting it on Celestrial form reduces its uptime making it a huge nerf.
Except staff 3 is terrible for blasting it because of how staff 3 behaves when using it at a spot close to you.
Its also great for quickly changing directions to get to safe location behind ally lines.
i know thats how I played it. I prefer not to play DPS meta. I like team defense and protection.
Then you’re not “lonewolf” like what he was talking about, thus not countering anything he said.
The healing is great in PvP, if people would actually stick to working together rather than it always being a every man for themselves mentality going around.
It doesn’t do anything in sPvP that a Guardian can’t do. Except a Guardian doesn’t sacrifice his DPS.
In terms of WvW, the limit of only healing 5 players per skill does nothing to counter AoE bombs. And, again, no DPS.
And as a whole, the crappy range of the Glyphs, as well as no stability or stun breaks, makes them garbage.
I’ve been experimenting with Power Ranger build with the Druid trait still selected and using Troll Ungent. Seeing as how Healing Power stat doesn’t do squat for Druid healing, there’s not much of a reason to run gear that bumps it up. This build actually doesn’t do too bad and you can still get into AF if things start to go south.
On the whole, the Druid doesn’t bring anything to the table that others can’t do and even do better.
“It doesn’t do anything in sPvP that a Guardian can’t do. "
Lol you lost all credit there. If you believe a Guardian can dish out as much healing as a single Druid…… yeah I wont argue with you on this much. Clearly you have not played healer in SPvP yet with Druid….. go back to your Power Ranger Druid dude…..
Its a support/defensive weapon.. what did you all expect?
Which is totally redundant because it charges the AF to enter CAF which is also a support/defensive form. The staff would be miles better off with less healing and more damage.
Totally disagree. Staff been great as is. I like all its tools. It has defense tools, a cc, a blast movement control, a AoE heal at target location and the AA is great. Only Wasp need buff. Thats pretty much it.
i dont play Staff Druid to be Berserker meta
No need to be overly defensive. Also no one here mentioned zerker meta… it’s about clear differentiation of roles and you’re not loosing anything basically. This is no just about staff it’s also about celestial form as well.
If I want to support my team I’d like to have all my tools available. If I have to quit my support form just to provide projectile to healing wall and vice versa, it’s not only incoveneient, I think it’s poorly thought out and just creates needless artificial complexity.
For example:
If Natural Convergence were a staff skill you’d be able to lock down enemy > pet cc > trigger Ancient Seeds. So it’d have some solo application as well instead of just being reliant on other ppl to do something during that time window.And on top of it all, let’s be frank, thematically, healing wall fits better in celestial form than staff and that single damaging skill in celestial form won’t make any difference damage wise because it’s not where it should be.
Once again I disagree because Staff 5 is also a water field to go with Staff 3, and need more uptime. Putting it on Celestrial form reduces its uptime making it a huge nerf.
Omg not this kitty again!!! Stop with this already please.
you dont like healers dont play it!!!! Stop whining about a healer specialization being good at healing and not good at damage….
You need to understand WHY people don’t like it. Is healing bad? No. Will it be bad if a druid is MANDATORY in raids? Then yes, since it defeats the whole purpose of this game.
Developers are the people that choose any “Purpose” in their game, and those chose Healer to be a needed role in Raids as well as making it a useful role in other parts of the game now.
If you are expecting druid to be the ranger upgrade then you are destined to be disappointed.
I get where you are coming from though. Ranger has never been spectacular support unless focused kitten it. There are a lot of lonewolf type rangers, i mean they do get a pet after all so its kinda natural for them to choose this class. So to all a sudden see what appears to be upgrades to other classes in the form of elite specs, this lonewolf type class gets a “healing bot”
So yeah you got trolled. From a lonewolf perspective ;-)
Not at all. Druid support staff weapon/skills been a request for Rangers for a while now.
many players play classes with Support in mind in vanilla. Problem was, it wasnt as good. Hence we had Spirit Rangers for a reason.
i know thats how I played it. I prefer not to play DPS meta. I like team defense and protection.
Well Druid and Rev been the first time those became actual roles.
people been playing this Anti-Group Support, Pro-DPSfest for so long, they forgot about all the players who over the years been playing support and wanted to be useful while doing so.
those players likely love Druid. The healing is great in PvP, if people would actually stick to working together rather than it always being a every man for themselves mentality going around.
Considering the nature of the Druid (and of rangers in general), why are glyphs close ranged?
Because its meant to best at close range. Thats why it has all the knockback and pulls. Its built to be close to “tanks”(translations: other players that can defend you and keep enemies distracted).
Your close range abilities help keep them alive as well.
First things first: Bristleback for life! I love this pet in so many ways. He just looks so cute and cuddly, til he starts flinging those shards around.
Have only played Druid in Verdant Brink and Silverwastes so far:
-Like the synergy with the three new pets that lay down fields. Direct the smokescale to do his F2 then Staff3 right into the field, and voila, area stealth, or might with fire wyv/swiftness with lightning wyv. I’ve generally found the lightning reflexes utility super useful both for traited condi-clear, but also immediately evading back out melee after dropping Staff 3.
Found the best use for Staff 1 to be standing back with bristlepet at range, and letting it roll while strafing or circling the target, depending on where the melee folk are positioned. Often just strafing back and forth brings out the green numbers like no one’s business, because you’re constantly crossing paths with the melee players. Staff 2 works nicely for this as well.
I have not tried any of the glyphs, none of them appeal to me, and frankly I like my survival skills.
Lunar Impact is amazing, for me, that’s the go-to heal when I see party members start to get low on HP. I am in agreement that Cosmic Ray has some issues. One small move by the target, and the heal is completely missed. The tiny target circle is far too fiddly for my tastes.
The manueverability and speed from Natural Stride, I feel really augments the playstyle of needing to strafe with Staff 1.
As someone who has always mained a healer in other games, I’ve got to say, Druid is the most fun I’ve had in a long time! The next three weeks are going to crawl on by, while I go back to condi… Really can’t wait for HoT now!
ETA (because it’s late and I forgot): +1 with everyone who says that Druids need SOME form of Stability. That’s one of the biggest problems with the spec at the moment for me.
Being an old MMO player, having always played a ‘healerbot’ style class—I welcome the change—while this might not be the change for all—I have enjoyed it.
Cant kill stuff—don’t mind that at all. But with proper positioning and awareness of your party—the druid has been a refreshing and similar style of play that I glad to go back to
Sorry to break your dream.
Druid is only needed in WvW and potentially raid, and nowhere else, since it has minimal to no offensive and defensive supports.
No one except bad team really need a dedicated healbot.For a party of 5, it’s too great of a sacrifice to carry a healbot who can only heal and does nothing else.
What? You must been a bad Druid, because I been rolling in SPvP, keeping allies alive and protected. Druid is a beast in Stronghold and Foe map.
Omg not this kitty again!!! Stop with this already please.
you dont like healers dont play it!!!! Stop whining about a healer specialization being good at healing and not good at damage….
your going to get a lot of bias in this poll from people who just don’t want to play a healer type at all. then you’re going to get a lot of positive bias from us old time rangers who really want a space in the meta regardless of what that space might be. Druids decent, celestial form needs some damage on skill so your not losing credit. reworking the way credits given would be a way huger undertaking than just throwing some numbers on skills.
Druid damage is good as is. If it gets a large damage increase to staff and Celestial form, that would mean a counter nerf to Healing to balance. And Druid is meant to be played as Healer. Why nerf what its good at for what it was never meant for.
people that want DPS simply dont equip Druid or Staff.
there are other options for that. Dont get Druid nerfed simply because in some people mind, healing isnt a Role in GW2 and everything is about 1v1 DPS.
i like Druid being all about CC and Heals. Best Elite Specialization in the game.
I feel like playing staff druid with a classic pure healing mindset is not going to work. The specialization traitline is incredible for supplementary the current non-druid builds though.
what? You people have lost your mind! only you people with the DPS DPS DPS mindset are not good with Druid.
i been playing it with healer first mindset and been successful in PvP. I go into every fight with main priority to protect my allies. and I’ve been major successful at it.
What if Elite Specialization for Ranger had a unique pet to also choose from?
Currently i am kind of mad at the current pets, but that is mostly due to how buggy they been on offense, and cant use my tank pet in SPVP.
I would on the other hand, like a support pet.
i got the idea from Druid from Rift. They had a Faerie pet that would put HoT on allies and some other effects.
Something similar like a SpiritWasp Pet that puts Regen on nearby allies and channels a damage attack that heals nearby allies at target location. Also puts Slow on enemies and heals allies nearby with active. Some thing cool like that.
Pets are currently bugged in beta.
I been running Cleric in SPVP with staff. I been dominant force in SPvP. My heals make me a great source of defense as well as offense. If teams dont adjust to my presence, its over for them.
DRUID IS META…. staff is bombing. Need buff to Wasp and thats it.
would like a immobilization removal on Staff 3. But not needed.
Its a support/defensive weapon.. what did you all expect?
Which is totally redundant because it charges the AF to enter CAF which is also a support/defensive form. The staff would be miles better off with less healing and more damage.
Totally disagree. Staff been great as is. I like all its tools. It has defense tools, a cc, a blast movement control, a AoE heal at target location and the AA is great. Only Wasp need buff. Thats pretty much it.
i dont play Staff Druid to be Berserker meta
Its a support/defensive weapon.. what did you all expect?
So, after making multiple bug reports after the latest patch as well as asking mapchat if anyone else has ran into this problem with their Ranger, I’ve pretty much given up trying to get my ranger’s pet to actually “appear”.
Literally, my pet doesn’t exist. The “activate pet” button does absolutely nothing. I’ve tried every which way to try and fix the issue after the latest patch and everytime I’ve mentioned it in mapchat all I get are snide remarks say “my pet must have ran away” and so on.
I would like to have this situation solved since I enjoy playing my ranger in the PvP the most. If anyone has ran into this issue before, please let me know if and how it was resolved. I’m really bummed that I can’t play the class I want to in PvP.
Thanks!
Yes this happens to me as well in the beta…
Pet just chilling there like this is vacation or something, while enemies beat on me,
I am loving it. some issues and bugs. but man this been fun.
cant wait to try this in WvW.
Man my pet just stands there from time to time in combat.
reminds me of Necro Minion bug.
this recent to beta or pre-beta?
why reduce the healing of staff? thats the main element.
Give it time and you guys will realize that druid, while an improvement over ranger, is not even close to the other elite specs in PvP. Scrapper has ridiculous tankiness and sustain, way above our level. The aoe that tempest craps out with the overloads is insane. The gravity well from chrono cannot be stun broken so you will just insta die. The damage from dragon hunter is absolutely OP as kitten.
this has been the case for me as well. now imagine a DRUID healing all those guys and locking people down. also if played well, youre virtually unkillable.
Druid is Meta……
:-)
Meta for what? Being useless and badly designed? Sure.
again I dont know what Druids you all been playing with. But I can lock down any cap point from 5 people with decent tanks. my team won a match outnumbered 4 to 5.
Druid is far from useless.
Play it right and it pays off.
I dont go into each fight trying to Medi-Guardian my way through enemies.. no. I play my role. And I been successful.
What makes you think the druid has anything to do with healing?
ummmm, maybe because almost every skill and utility using the staff (because it’s completely wasted with any other weapon using the spec) on druid has healing, to yourself or others. just sayin……
You’re “correcting” a post made 8 months ago, when Druid was nothing but speculation.
Given the way GW2 was made there is no place for a healer or a tank in a group.
Oh my… didn’t we cry for weeks now ????
Get over it, there will be haler and tanks and that is a step into the right direction
especially when they announced that they change toughness.I love these changes
You, too. look at the date stamps on the post you’re quoting.
Sheesh.
Druid,,, no Necro
I disagree with the OP.
dont change whats not broken.
Druid is Ranger meta. I am loving it.
I am having tons of fun!!
Just did a match and had great tanks doing what the plan was. Love Rev when they tanking for me.
Not really, until core ranger is fixed they will only fill niche roles.
I disagree. Its been very powerful. In fact, with a well coordinated team that follows the plan, a good Druid can lock down a spot.
With no stability and not great self survival they are easy to focus down/deal with.
Not if Team follow the plan…
A good druid can hold down a point with a few tanks nearby doing what they “should” be doing….
Its good, but Seed of Life need a buff to its healing. I say a proc of Stability on it would be nice as well.
Druid is only useless when teammates dont know how to play any team play..
That Anti-Trinity culture generated by the Vanilla GW2 made everybody selfish and every man for themselves.
Nobody wants to follow any plans or tactics.
Dont blame Druids for that. Blame your lame selfish play style…
Not really, until core ranger is fixed they will only fill niche roles.
I disagree. Its been very powerful. In fact, with a well coordinated team that follows the plan, a good Druid can lock down a spot.
you could be tethered by druid glyphs before you SoS meaning your own attacks are damaging you?
SoS only prevents incomming damage not Self caused damage that could be the case here.
nah cant be it. Because would need to be doing damage to get it back at self… know what I mean?
could there be a number of hits limit for this?
I like it…
its the same as Rev…
Make GoTT apply a Water field that heals allies as well with regeneration.
Wow thats terrible. I know its undertuned currently for beta weekend, but that need a buff.
Wasp sucks big time. IMO it should also apply Regen along side the heal.