being a healing oriented class : nothing wrong.
Being an only burst healing class : boooorrriinggg……You bring me a druid with more group support applications other than exclusively healfrom 1 to 0 and hard CC like is already present in the glyphs and i will believe unicorns exists.
Enough damage application to keep tagging when in Avatar state also so heal does not became a punishment or a burden for the druid.Players here are complaining about the Druid being only heal when ranger lacks in any kind of support. Also heal from 1 to 9 is boring and does not fit with the average ranger player used to play with weapons where every skill is different and has purpose other than smash.
Also the shout wannabe mechanic for the glyphs does not convince because it seems too lacklustre in range and not offering any situational control. We already have shouts for what it matter.Mainly heal is good, only heal is bad
Druid generate energy from damage and heals. So you dont even have to use Staff to get some major heals from the new form, while dishing out heavy damage.
This defeats the unknown reason they nerfed them in the first place.
I can really deal with all of the Druid changes and additions…
What needs to be adjusted are the pet attack mechanics (stopping before connecting with an attack) and Event Contribution through healing, rezzing, and defending.
Irenio states that the Zerk Meta will not be compliant going forward, but as it stands now the Zerk Meta is the only way to guarantee getting event credit.
If i want to heal my fellow adventurers and really be serious about it, i would have to concentrate on healing as my primary consideration. Why would i do this with the way anything is calculated in the current game ? Does not matter which game type is played PvP, WvW, PvE, damage is the only way to guarantee the maximum chance to get full credit.
Other players who will come in here and say it is all ok, more then likely have not Main healed in other games, most of those other games are structured to give a main healer credit for doing just that. GW2 is sorely lacking in this category.
This needs to be addressed quickly if you really want me and others to embrace the idea of what your vision of the Druid should be. If i know that i will get the same credit as a Zerk Meta player will, i will champion this class change 100%. Otherwise this is a skill i will ignore and go back to waiting for my Ranger to get fixed…. again.
I believe people are forgetting that Druid is still a Ranger. They have pets that still tag mobs for credit. Also you still have off weapons for attacking and generating celestrial energy to pump out some quick heals.
Hey rangers, after the Druid reveal, the Balance Patch details, and the New pets,
how do you all feel now?
Axe/Horn + Staff
for great support and healing, while also AoEing down trash.
So what effect did Druid have, that called for Spirits to be nerfed?
Now that we have ROLES and harder content in HoT. We need to open up more to the playerbase. Why should every class focus on DPS? That Boring and so not creative in terms of gameplay.
Druid offers a unique approach to gameplay during raids. See it as something new, breaking the old. jesus you ppl whine and complain about stupid kitten
Remind me what’s unique about the Green Bar / Red Bar playstyle again ?
From what i can recall it’s been in every game since well….pong.Not a very unique playstyle.
Opening up the game to more people i have no problem with, so long as they stop shifting the goalpost on what this game was designed to be.
This game was not designed to be a traditional trinity system….and so far we are coming ever closer to it. For what purpose ? Hard content, Incorporating more players ? Take your pick its as good as anyone else. However if it truly is the later, then these people need to do the proper research into a product before expecting it to be yet another Traditional MMO clone.
See, this is the thing. Guild Wars 2 wanted to get rid of the TRINITY, which resulted in the BIRTH of the super boring, uninspiring, BESERKER META. Which imo is less exciting than the age old TRINITY SYSTEM. There is a huge reason why ANET said that ELITE SPECS, are going to offer unique roles to combat in GW2. If they were fine, and the player base was fine with the ZERK META, then I believe these class changes would not be happening.
But clearly ANET and many others realize they missed their mark on letting the trinity go and incorporating something NEW. Iam not saying you need a TRINITY, but you need to offer something more than just DPS DPS DPS, STACK STACK STACK.
With the elite specs including druid’s healing role, it adds more variety to many unique players who dont want to be forced into ZERK GEAR ONLY PLS.
There was already plenty of variety to begin with.
Tell me how adding a trope of a spec is adding more ? I must surely be missing it.
Also, per forcing players into “Zerk Meta” im sorry, but no one has ever forced you to do anything of the sort. That choice is solely in the hands of players. It was your choice as a person to either conform or reject said meta. Unfortunately too many players are blind to the fact that the “Zerk Meta” is only relevant in speed clearing content and thus adopted it without understanding or knowing why its done.
So sure you may find the current “Zerk Meta” boring, but who are you to force your ideal onto others ? This is the underlying problem with the whole concept of this change. Not once was i asked if i found the Green Bar/Red Bar meta or traditional trinity boring … do i not get an equal voice ?
The thing that everyone misses is that ANET wasn’t intending to fully abandon the Trinity it intended to make a game where you don’t have to wait for a healer or tank or DPS player to be around for you to do missions. Thus in Dungeons any team of 5 can work with either a team with a Trinity style build, a pure Zerker team or an imaginative new team dynamic. Letting players change their roles with the same characters gave them flexibility. The Trinity was supposed to still happen in a way but organically not forced.
They did intend to fully abandon the trinity. Just because they say all that now as if they never said otherwise, well the internet still exist.
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/17973-getting-rid-of-holy-trinity-my-thoughts-on-it/
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/23473-why-will-gw2-combat-be-different-trinity-discussion/
I get the one with this skin all the time http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cabalist_Hood_%28skin%29
I never get that or anything better.
thatst he point. From all the bags, from EoTM train, to SPvP, etc, I never get that for some reason. seem strange.
I have noticed that after countless chest and bag consumables I never get masterwork or better Cloth Head armor from loot bags/chest.
Am I the only person this happens to?
perhaps this a bug in the RNG?
Some good ideas here
I also need help here as well.
i am stuck between Human and Norn. I only have 1 human out of my serious alts(aka non bag space alts)
But i fell in love with my norn warrior.
problem is Norn dont have many options for young smooth male faces. There is only 2 smooth faces. Preferred not to have my Revenant and my Warrior look the same. So this was a blower when I found this out that Norn doesnt have many smooth young faces.
not sure what i should do.
What they mean by the potion change?
What they mean by all wings after HoT?
full set= 1 weapon, what this trying to say?
I was thinking about getting guild wars 1 and all its campaigns to play through. Along with that, the rewards would be nice to have. I’m wondering is if it is worth it to buy it, my main reason would be to get the rewards for guild wars 2. At this point, does guild wars 1 hold up and is it still worth playing?
No its not. Its not a MMO. Also it hard to grind for GW2 rewards solo, which could also be boring.
its a CORPG, this is just a fancy way of saying “Single player rpg with optional grouping with other players” aka Diablo.
if you like that Diablo solo gameplay then maybe you may like it. Its made by the same people after all as Diablo 2.
I cant recommend you invest in it. GW2 is far superior and is an actual mmorpg.
Will vanilla pve ever get updated to HoT to make Berserker not the meta there as well?
We only got one uw weapon because they removing that style of play
What Rev need is energy cost of tablet buff. Need to upgrade to Ipad Air. Just saying. Longer energy in battery. ..
Ventari has a 20s projectile block.
Yeah, and druid turns projectiles into healing.
10/10………. you won
Also I believe we should have a trait that increase toughness while in Shroud, and provides more life force steal on third strike and Skill 4.
We have a trait that increases toughness in shroud (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Armored_Shroud)…
Excuse me, was talking about Reaper.
A simple increase of healing outsourcing from Med Kit 1 could make this far more interesting to use.
The axe change is nice but doesnt fix the issues. Axe 2 still easy to interrupt in pvp due to the capture point design of close combat
Even though they said zerker won’t be meta. I still have doubts. Can probably get away with zerker druid and still do enough heals.
In HoT stats will scale differently then they do now. Some stats are being made more useful and required in pve as development states many times.
druid wont be built around vanilla content but new HoT content.
I say dont play it if you dont like it. I wont be playing tempest and Daredevil for this very reason. I love this elite specialization idea. Requested this long time ago. I like playing support and healer. So this seem like a plus in my book.
You’re a ranger main and you think that pets have an F5 skill?
Are you sure you’re a ranger main?
Perhaps the OP keybines the stow and passive of pets and assumes that will get replaced by the new form.
Dragon Hunter is meant to be a tank role for PvE. Druid is meant to be healer role in pve. Thats why they different.
Dragon Hunter will make great off tanks in the group. Traps work great for mob control for AoE trash tanking. The virtues are great for movement and defending the group and main tank. Focus and new shield is great for AoE tanking hits from multiple sources at once.
lets not forget longbow adds symbol for energy and CC knockback as well as a a way to defend group from projectiles.
best raid off tank is Dragon Hunter imo.
This is one of the main problems with the extreme tunnel vision of this spec. Why are you going to bring in a druid who is spamming out heals when your party will will include plenty of classes providing multiple kinds of support.
You could have a Guardian thorwing out some passive heals while applying aegis, blinds, reflects and condi cleanse and stab while doing decent damage, a Chrono who can spam MoP and shatters with the heal traits and their aoe heal well while also providing reflects, condi cleanse party wide cooldown reduction and quickness as well as a rev who can sit in ventari for when the healing is needed then swap to Shiro or Glint for better damage and other types of support.
Those 3 will provide more then enough group healing that a druid will be pointless and all 3 will be providing other things to the group as well.
because none of them not specced into Healing will heal as well as a single Druid.
Healing stats will be made important in HoT.
Also part of the raid will have tank members. Only 10 slots.
likely 2 tanks and 2 healers, and all else berserker DPS and other forms of hybrids.
Got an infraction. But I still stand by what I said. You dont like healer Druid, dont play it. I will play and enjoy it. Your loss.
Anet can you reveal the Hero Point system
in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns
Posted by: Knighthonor.4061
Anet can you fully reveal the Hero Point system?
How many points needed for Elite Specs?
What other ways to get Hero Points in HoT?
give us full reveal.. because current Hero Point grind is boring.
Nope, they have not.
When they have, it is very likely that there will be threads about it here and on Reddit.
well it was said that it was going to be at the event today. so how much longer the event last?
They reveal Balance patch details yet?
I hope someone can enlighten me, I really do, because this game mode is coming and I might not be able to choose not to play it.
I feel like this map could become as Alterac Valley became in wow ,where both teams pass each other up and basically do a PVE race. In many games I play in stronghold, there are players i don’t even see on the other team because they are literally just pushing minions and attacking NPC’s.
I can see this being a completely different game mode with good communication and would love to watch those games, but i enjoy soloQ, a world where there isn’t much room for typing while playing.
i dont see that as the case. Alterac Valley is more of a small scale WvW with tower holding. Stronghold does have the defensive choke points, and it works out. Just dont have the good group numbers.
but I expect the custom maps with 10 vs 10 Stronghold to be where the balance and fun will be at.
pictures got darn it,, pictures please!
OMG AWESOME!! I love the Wyvern pets!!!
You know what? a picture would be nice of these new pets…. just saying
Since there’s no taunt to make an enemy constantly attack you, there is no trinity.
Also the Healers are doing more than just Heal, they can also do Damage buff Allies or control the Enemies.
Something that is impossible in a Holy Trinity Setting
huh?
Those are all still trinity roles, and can be done in the trinity.
Rift is a trinity game. Tanks can tank with 2hander, and healers can DPS to heal. No idea where you been. Thats still a trinity.
I am excited for this change.
But we should have all saw healers coming.
1) the Pro-Trinity article from Anet interview- especially when pre-release Anet was very anti-Trinity.
2)Changes to Engineer Med Kit to better outpool healing vs its original design. Now that Druid is revealed and Healers revealed, the numbers on Med Kit will likely be adjusted.
3)Revenant’s tablet should have been the wake up call really if none of the above opened your eyes.
4)Ele Tempest full outsource heal shouts
Ranger main now because of Healing Druid. Been wanting that for a while now
Any chance of getting new PvP Amulets in the future?
Add Combat stances as an option for Item preview.
Also add option to hide certain pieces of gear that may block items you want to look at.
Everyone in this sub forum understands the hardships of playing a ranger in any content type except solo pve and as a result we’ve been screaming for changes that are necessary and long overdue! The problem is… I don’t wanna be over-tuned!
I think I’ve play ranger for so long BECAUSE we were the underdogs and it felt sooooooooooo good to prove people wrong with your skill at out playing them or just surprising people with the fact that having a ranger instead of an engi or one ele in your meta group that knows what he’s doing isn’t going to impact your clear time as much as you think it would if at all.
That aside, I know changes are coming. This is truth. Whether they’re good or bad will remain to be seen. But here’s hope that we don’t get the ele treatment and become FotM because I already see too many kitten people playing ranger just cause people like bows and a dog following them around. (I know it’s selfish I don’t care what you think get off my lawn!! ^.^)
Cheers folks.
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INB4 OPDRUIDTAUNTMESS
I hate this logic. I played World of Warcraft as a Paladin for years before they became good and competitive,
and this was the main excuse used to justify why the class shouldnt have been buffed.
its crazy talk.
Let’s talk about HOPE, people!
What are we all wishing for from the Druid, ideally to get us back in the metagame?
Wouldn’t it be awesome if we had a trait that reduced party damage from greenery, or increased damage towards greenery?
I want major healing output. Rev/Tempest level or higher. I like healing in PvP.
Also want Forms. Simple as that. Forms we change into which change skills.
In Forest of Niflhel is it an exploit for somebody to jump up the wall at Henge?
Hey I want to know you all’s opinion on Chilling Nova and some of the other traits in the Reaper specialization regarding chills.
1) Chilling Nova explodes Chills when you crit a target effected by Chill. it spreads chill for 3 seconds to nearby enemies as well.
But with current Chill Duration in the game, and how it also rely on RNG for crit to proc this, how effective is this?
2)Shivers of Dread causes fear to also chill for 3 seconds. This may be good for fearing targets and keeping them close. But isnt this counterproductive to the next minor trait, which is Cold Shoulder? Since they running away from you, the 15% damage reduction for the duration of the chill is not being used on the feared targets on defense.
3)Chilling Force, allows Reapers to generate might when attacking a foe with chill on them. This could be good if you are using Great Sword auto which apply chill to enemies. Also RS’s #5 skill is great for applying chill to the area for AoE. Same for Staff and Focus. Seem like a good trait. Any thoughts on this trait?
4)Cold Shoulder increases Chill duration by 20%, which doesnt seem like a lot with the number of smaller durations in the game. Also this increase damage reduction by 15%. That 15% damage reduction seems a bit small for GS spamming Reaper. Perhaps its meant more for RS. But does RS have damage reduction baseline at all? If it was intentionally meant for keeping the out of shroud GS Reapers alive, perhaps the damage reduction values should be separated between RS and Outside RS Reaper, similar to how Relentless Pursuit trait works in the Reaper Specialization.
5)Deadly Chill makes it so chill does damage now. How does this damage calculated? thats whats confusing to me. Can anybody explain?
6)Executioner’s Scythe is RS#5 skill and apply an AoE chill in melee range radius. But it has a short duration on chill. Shorter than a lot of animation delays in the game. So how effective is this chill for Chilling Force, and Cold Shoulder?
7)Death Charge which replaces Dark Path as RS #2 no longer chills for the longer duration chill. Long Duration Chills are better for Cold Shoulder’s duration increase. But I guess this meant to make Curses seem better for Chilling Darkness.
8)Chilling Scythe is GS third auto attack, with 2 second chill. Which is slightly longer duration than the auto attack. Not sure about after cast delay.
9)Grasping Darkness is GS 5. Has 4 second Chill which is pretty good. I still believe the Single Target range on this should be increased, while keeping the AoE element range of this the same.
Well spiritually, real life Druids use the Animal skin to become one with the animals.
this is where fantasy rpg get the concept of Druids shapeshifting into Animals. Because thats what the Druid priest would do, spiritually using the animal’s skin and wearing it over their body like a cloak.
I think the popularity of rangers is increasing. Even in ESL they are not as rare anymore (meaning there are a few now as opposed to absolutely 0 some months ago). I’m afraid that what is carrying them is mostly the weird behavior of taunt (is it supposed to be unavoidable?). If this is fixed (assuming it is not intended) then rangers may go down a bit.
Before taunt what was wrong with them though?
I see a lot of complaints about Ranger in SPvP.
But what exactly is bad about Rangers in SPvP?
Because i seen some really good Longbow rangers in SPvP.
Nobody going to be as good as Ele but Ele. So nobody expects them to be on that level right? So whats been the problem?
Immobile anything doesnt work in a game that is all about action combat and cleaves. This isnt WoW totem Shaman. Thats the problem. They were badly designed for this game from the start.
I doubt the shapeshift thing will happen I do think the control your pets might happen if you watch wooden potatoes theories it is quite interesting and very possible. The thing is guild wars 2 is not trying to be like wow or everquest 1 or 2 so their druid will need to be different.
If Anet is trying to go for the high fantasy Druid like WP was suggesting, then we will get shapeshifting since that has ALWAYS been a key point of Druids in fantasy. It all depends on whether or not Anet is going full on spell casting or if we are going to totally embrace high fantasy Druid.
And judging by how close GW2 ranger is to DnD ranger/Druid, I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if our elite glyph was a shape shifting skill.
Your only dreaming at this point, the point was mmorpgs try not to copy each other in classes as little as possible when it comes to western mmorpgs, and this isnt dnd and if you want to be technical dnd druids had far more then just shapeshifting they could control some of the elements, and even shapeshift into some them, regardless of druid origins of dnd it does not mean shapeshifting is likely, guild wars 2 tries to make the classes more unique then other mmos anyways so shapeshifting is not likely.
Yes, because Warrior, Guardian, Ranger, Thief, engineerand Necromancer are so much more unique than your stereotypical Warrior, Paladin, Ranger/Hunter, rogue, engineer/tinker and stereotypical dark magic user.
The only prof in the game that is even doing something different from the stereotypical RPG classes is Mesmer, who is using the enchanter/illusionist thing which is almost NEVER seen in anything, and ele who is not only capable of using earth and air magic (very rare for most MMOs), but they also use ALL the elements instead of just specializing in one.
Anet isn’t reinventing the wheel, and they’re not even remotely pretending to, they’re just taking the same wheel and putting their own fancy decal onto it. Just because they’re trying their own thing doesn’t mean Druid won’t shapeshift, or that it won’t use magic (it’s already been established they will), they’ll probably end up shapeshifting into nature spirit type of things instead of animals, and use a mix of martial with magic. They won’t stray too far from the established theme or else they risk angering people who want to play that archetype, but that won’t stop them from tweaking it a little.
Mesmer is also not unique to GW2. The Mesmer class is based on the Mesmerizer class from Everquest.
Elite Glyphs that change forms based on which Aspect you use the elite glyph with
/sigh
Anyone have the dead horse gif?
“Its only beta!”
Man you dont know how long, in MMO years, I waited to say that
Does Chill Reduce Endurance regen rate?
just noticed that while fighting somebody in WvW.