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Other classes where available in the Beta Portal event. Even in my EGX experience other professions where available and played by other people, for what it is worth. Arena Net calculate their boss stats using software, this has been stated on the forums previously. This should be no different for our new class, and probably isn’t.
Lets get one thing straight. I am not trying to kittenbag Arena Net. I appreciate the work they are doing as I love the franchise. I have been here since GW1 Prophecies. I am also reading between the unspoken lines.
As I have already stated, I have experience in development and marketing. What we have been presented with isn’t worthy of a beta. Both on Arena Nets side and the players side.
To me this feels like PR from the beta backlash and the lack of information for quite some time.
Unless you can give me genuine reasons backed up with genuine facts other than ‘Useful Data’ .
I would appreciate you not white knitting my forum post. Prior to this I was the biggest of them all nearly
I feel you. Honestly I believe the build in last weekend beta isn’t in the same league as the build their insiders are using for testing.
We got a kitten Revenant for marketing. Getting a kitten DPS class in beta, would make for a great hype jump for its DPS answer to get revealed. (Shiro ) while also limiting people’s perception of the class being OP.
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Support roles get rewarded the same as DPS roles, Condition Damage Roles etc but all roles are required to do some sort of damage to at least one enemy in order to get a reward. This is for both Dynamic events & PvP.
Perhaps more context is needed in your post for me to fully understand what you mean precisely, but as a general rule, you only need one or two hits per mob or enemy player, and you get credit on their death, which equals reward whatever your role is.
He’s going under the assumption that since Revenant apparently have defined roles based on the legend used, the entire system in the game that tracks participation should be overhauled to give players who want to heal the zerg the entire fight credit for the event.
And to add onto what I said, the OP doesn’t understand the impact his suggestion would have. It would require an overhaul in the participation tracking like I mentioned but also require an overhaul in how scaling is done.
Can you actually do that? Can the revenant actually spend 100% uptime purely putting out heals without damaging anything? Or is there downtime where they have no choice but to wait and attack. Legitimately asking I didn’t play the rev more than a few minutes this weekend. Because if they can’t, then they’re going to get credit by attacking during downtime.
Yes there is.
I wrote a guide here
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3cy6yl/revenant_guide_to_healing_and_tanking/
You can heal and give stability with Dwarf/Centaur combo to group. During Jormag this is great, and for other bosses. Most energy is spent on healing skills and moving tablet for more heals to group. Current Centaur has no damage skills if you notice.
IMO, part of the problem with Rite of the Great Dwarf is not necessarily the casting time but the reward for using it. Damage reduction is fine, but especially in WvW / PvP, damage reduction alone is not enough to keep you alive. I think if the cast time is going to be long and the effect duration short (5 sec), it should really be rewarding – e.g. 50% damage reduction plus 50% reduced incoming condition duration and a few stacks of stability.
atm it’s just not an elite, it’s your.. way too pricey stunbreak
generally invul skills are instacast but also have a cooldown.
one of the problems with this skill is that it’s aoe, not only for yourself. this results in a weaker effect for yourself because it needs to be balanced for more players than just you. lore wise it also makes sense, jalis turned all of the dwarfs into stone, not only himself.
the question is, what’s more important, lore or balance.
if this skill became an invul what needs to happen is:
instacast
cooldown
reduced energy cost
remove stunbreak and add it to a different skill (the stability one because it would make sense).what needs to happen if it does not become an invul and stays the way it is:
first of all a better tooltip.. how much is the damage reduction?
shorter casting time or longer effect
reduced energy costI do like the theme that Rev utility skills are not balanced by cooldowns, and making it an instant stunbreak with cooldown would make the skill similar to other profession skills. Of course, I also understand that balance is important, and if the skill isn’t useful it doesn’t matter how unique it is.
What if, rather than a cooldown, it had a really high energy cost – e.g 75-100?
You make a good point that the cast time is probably too long for it to be useful regardless of the energy cost. Is it reasonable to have one effect for yourself and another effect for other allies? E.g. “Gain invulnerability for 1-2 seconds. Nearby allies (including yourself) gain the Rite of the Great Dwarf effect (50% damage reduction) for 5 seconds.” It can still have a cast time and stun break, it would just need to provide you with stability to cover the cast like all other non-instant stunbreaks do. This would reward you for keeping a high energy reserve while in Jalis, but it would the make the skill less useful as an emergency button.
with real high cost, it would never be used in SPvP.
Remember weapon skills cost Energy as well. so to be at 100% you are a sitting duck with no real damage reduction.