Guild Wars 2

Aside from adding some defence, it’s only useful for skills.

Agemnon.4608:

And why do humans ghosts attack me on my Asura and even other human? What beef do the Ascalon ghosts have with me when I just want to complete exploration? Attacking Charr I can understand, but maybe them being hostile to all races is just for purposes of gameplay and they aren’t plot hostile (like in WoW undead are weak vs. holy according to the plot but for the purposes of game balance don’t have that weakness)?

I just assume they’re stark raving mad by now. They don’t just attack players either, I see them fighting separatists as well. I think they just attack anyone but other ascalonian ghosts.

LOL. I’m gonna have to follow some human female warriors around now to hear this, it seems hilarious. At least, assuming it’s the same for someone else nearby as it is the user… never thought of that before.

EDIT: so it is pretty squeaky, but not as funny as I hoped. I’ve actually known people who would probably sound like that if they swung a sword.

Either way, I think they’re probably trying to avoid making it benefit from a particular class. The runes should be allowed to work though, IMO.

I use sword with precision trait line and berserker’s (mostly) gear. With the trait for extra damage to bleeding targets (25, not selectable) and the one for increased crit chance with a sword (plus fury, etc), it can actually do pretty good direct damage using bleeding sort of like a debuff and then just getting a lot of critical hits.

Are you sure it’s not just the log adding the new damage to the old number when it hits another thing? I mean if you shoot through a bunch of the same creature, do you see its health go down more for each one pierced, or does the number just climb for about the same change to the bar?

EDIT: for example the hunters in the 1st pic look to have taken roughly the same damage, assuming they’re the ones you hit.

Does anyone know what exactly the choices effect? I mean I know there’s the three bars for dignity, ferocity, and charm, but do those have effects themselves? I swear I noticed some of my characters saying different things when just randomly doing stuff out in the world, but I’ve never been entirely sure if by chance I’d just never noticed those exclamations before.

My best guess is that it would be more beneficial to warriors, trait wise. Runes, I’m not sure.

Right now I’m using a sword/warhorn + rifle with 0/30/0/30/10. FGJ & signet of rage gives me perma-fury with my sigils, shake it off + warhorn gives condition removal and speed/endurance (plus a little healing from shouts). Sword has the 10% critical chance trait, rifle recharge is in there, and both benefit from extra damage to bleeding targets. It’s not as survivable as it could be, but it’s a nice mix for me.

Of course, I don’t know if it’s the ‘best’, but it’s not awful, and the shouts/wh benefit allies.

To be fair, I did get some (PVE) use out of it as a ranged warrior. It could be handy in kiting when I come across an enemy immune to knockback, or to get out of an AoE marker.

Oh. That’s… incredibly annoying. Between that and the whole ‘switch to medkit, drop bottle, walk on it’ thing, I think I’m just going to go back to the elixir heal and use the dedicated condition removal elixir and/or trait for immunity under 25% health. What a colossal over-complication of what could have been a useful skill.

Kitty La Boom Boom.4065:

I really wish we could get our skill points reset. I regret having wasted so many on that skill.

You know you keep getting them after 80 right? Might as well unlock everything.

For some reason the ‘cleansing burst’ skill on my healing turret will happen with a random delay after I activate it, which isn’t indicated anywhere. I press the button, and sometime in the next few seconds it activates. Rarely it’s right away, sometimes in a few seconds, and sometimes longer than the conditions even lasted for, making it utterly useless.

Why? Blunderbuss is a bit ‘meh’ admittedly, being used ideally under melee range, but jump shot can be used to escape or attack the way it is now. We have a bomb kit, flamethrower, toolset with melee attacks… it’s not exactly unprecedented that we would want to go into melee range.

Yeah, safest bet is to use the off hand for stacking IMO. I’m assuming the fact that you can only stack one thing at a time is intended, although it would be nice of them to actually include that sort of information. So much info in this game is just totally absent.

And it’s ‘Lo and behold’ btw.

If you want people to read your posts, you should probably make them easier to understand.

Killed a group event champion with two people just now because it only cared about me. I just ran around a tent until it died. It was an idiot.

Honestly I think you should just be able to dodge off a turret anyway. It’s not like you’re strapped in; you just stand there.

As for the actual function, it seems interesting but almost too useful, in a way. Maybe not to be balanced, but to be implemented. It seems a bit… more than the other kits, and from what I’ve seen so far I honestly think elite skills are mostly novelty (I’d take an extra utility instead any day).

I like the idea of a direct-fire cannon though. I just don’t think it would happen.

In other news, some people still own mice without extra buttons. Although since I use the middle ‘button’ (mousewheel pressed) for this, I’m still not seeing a huge issue.

Homing grenades would ruin their functionality for me. I don’t really like them in PVE much, but for lobbing up/off walls in WvW they’re better than a bow or rifle. Even if I can’t hit someone directly I can tell it to hit near him and catch him in the explosion.

Johnson.3874:

Agreeing with OP here.

The sound they added is like a bad MIDI, playing over and over whatever the situation is. Sometimes I would just run down a hill and it would make the same sound as if I were jumping repeatedly in one place.
As someone said, I love the fact that we are covered with a real plate-looking armor (except for the “nipples showing” Norn cultural armor, what the hell is wrong with these people), but that sound is just so cheap it makes me want to cry.

Here I thought I used orichalcum to craft my armor, when it fact it was some cheap metal coming from a frying pan.

Some frying pans are coated in titanium. Maybe it’s not as cheap as you think…

Chadramar.8156:

The cattle ranching in Diessa Plateau showed another aspect of charr culture that I found rather charming and amusing. Well, aside from “Meatoberfest”. That name made me groan and roll my eyes something fierce. :p

I don’t remember where now, but passing through Diessa on my first character I swear some NPC was complaining that meatoberfest ’isn’t even a real holiday’ or something along those lines.

Strill.2591:

Right now using gear other than magic find presents the opportunity cost of all the loot I’m not getting because I didn’t use magic find. That’s a very large cost. If magic find gear did not exist, then that cost would not exist and I would be able to use whichever stats I wanted without incurring that penalty.

But it does exist right now, so efforts you make toward having it removed, if successful, would also cost you that.

Some always has iirc.

Strill.2591:

LameFox.6349:

You know, if magic find was made less effective or removed, it’d be exactly like if you just stopped using it. Are you some kind of addict?

Opportunity Cost. Economics 101.

Does getting someone else to stop you not have the opportunity cost that stopping yourself has? You’re basically saying you don’t want to use magic find gear, but you can’t stop yourself from using it unless somebody removes the incentive. If they did, and you switched to other gear, you would be getting exactly as much loot as you would right now if you just exercised self control and switched to more ‘fun’ gear.

lol, yeah, I’ve got an account bound apple of all things. I’m literally never going to use it, it just sits there worthlessly. Some other fruit too, I think.

The most annoying thing to find there is the wood for all those dowels, and it’s pretty cheap anyway.

You know, if magic find was made less effective or removed, it’d be exactly like if you just stopped using it. Are you some kind of addict?

fony.5102:

LameFox.6349:

lol. I love that you’ve rebound everything in the second row except 9.

if you put the bind on the second cloumn it won’t overwrite the original one but both functions work.

I think that’s probably what s/he’s done, but even so it sticks out being the one non-weapon skill with its original function bound in the primary column. I don’t think my brain would let me be that casually asymmetrical, so I immediately wonder if it’s that way by chance or for some obscure purpose I haven’t thought of yet.

I know every (useful) NPC in the Citadel from memory.

LockeProposal.9437:

Oh, I absolutely hate the Black Citadel. Exploring it is like exploring my basement. I hate the kitten out of it, but I NEED TO GET TO THE WASHING MACHINE.

To be fair, if you can get lost in a basement, it’s probably not the city’s fault.

Haven’t leveled engineer to 80 yet, so I’m not sure about endgame. At the moment, I find the flamethrower usable but not really worthwhile for any sake but having a flamethrower. Thumper turrets can be handy. Other turrets suck. Especially the rifle one – that thing would be pathetic even with twice the ROF it has now.

Honestly, I feel like they’re going to end up like my charzooka ‘elite’ racial on my warrior – that is, outclassed in every way by the rifle; a novelty that wastes the place signet of rage could be.

The WvW/Bandit ‘rifle’ looks like a spas-12 sort of. And the pirate one is… well, self evident. The Vigil’s rifle looks like a railgun, but it could go either way.

lol. I love that you’ve rebound everything in the second row except 9.

I’d rather the opposite really. A shorter cooldown means having to put them down all the time – better they be more effective so they’re worth the C/D.

You could bind a mouse button as the secondary for your #1 skill already. It doesn’t interfere with WASD movement that way. Or with some mice you could define a button as being 1.

Anyway: I made a macro for this and it seems semi-decent. I didn’t realize how well I could spam it normally until I discovered how little difference the macro makes.

Regarding the delay, mine is based on me pressing the key (obviously now it doesn’t vary though) because I just let it record the time. It’d be pretty sleazy of them to ban you for a super-fast macro on a skill that doesn’t go any faster because of it, though.

You’re wearing more metal than exists in your kitchen, what about this surprises you?

Knight’s armour refers to armour with toughness, precision and power. It’s a prefix, like ‘strong’ in early levels, not a specific set of armour.

@OP: I’m not sure about your weird stats, but if you’re capable of surviving well enough and aim to put out a lot of DPS, you could probably benefit from a Berserker set and just be a little more careful. Toughness only affects direct damage as it is, so being hit will hurt more but you’ll be used to that level of health when it comes to conditions already.

I was just thinking functionally, the things fire really slowly like an older heavy weapon. I can see why a gun like in BF3 would be a bad idea here since picking people off from a distance would just become the best way to get rid of them, but I don’t think any sort of high-damage long-range rifle skillset necessarily has to be imbalanced that way.

They work more like an old anti-tank rifle IMO. Something like a PTRD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PTRD

The hipshot is probably the hardest thing TO aim. The other long range rifle shot fires a net that expands, the blunderbuss is… well, a blunderbuss. Overcharge (if that’s what it’s called) relies on the blast power, and as for the launch thing, he’s aiming at the ground.

If he can aim with the hip shot, the rest is a cakewalk, so he might as well fire them all that way.

There are already sniper rifles in the game (a fixed turret type thing, and some rifle skins). I don’t think they make it much like BF3/MW3.

I support this equipment.

Maybe someday they’ll let people play ‘defected flame legion’ or something. Then they can walk around all stiff-like if they really want to.

Bobudo.7943:

It impossible for anything to look good on a bunch of slack-jawed, mouth-breathing, feral imbeciles.

So basically the problem is that you can’t get past stereotypes?

Flamethrower

The auto-attack being a burst (channel) causes it to miss an entire burst sometimes when only some should have missed. This doesn’t seem to be related to range or invul (says missmissmissmiss etc.) and is probably a bug, but it would be less problematic if the attack was simply a very small ‘puff’ of flame with a high ROF.

The burning duration should be divided up between each hit as well, so you don’t only set things on fire if you land the last part.

Party for sure. Others no. And I agree on their kit-like nature… I’d much rather they last forever. Rather than making them less effective for the sake of this, I’d also go with having only one up at a time, or one + the elite thing (which may still be timed, as it’s pretty powerful).

Sniper-warriors are fun. Not the hugest effectiveness but entertaining. Thief with two pistols is a nice ‘hyperactive’ class. Dodging all over the place and spamming bullets, yay!

Zinwrath.2049:

LameFox.6349:

I’d prefer the main attack became more shotgun-y. Thieves would be a better sniper than engineers, to me… they have the option to just expend all their points (whatever it’s called, I forget now) very quickly for a lot of damage, which would fit quite well with a sniping skillset that had mostly high damage, point-expensive attacks.

Engineers already fire the thing from the hip… making it a shotgun would be pretty fitting IMO. And it wouldn’t even need to change more than one skill, the rest are already pretty handy for mid/close range.

There is truth to this in theme. a theif does give the feeling of wanting to pick someone off with little risk to himself so i totally agree on that. But its the engineers who are wanting it. Lets assume tomorrow they put in sniper rifle for the engineer. Would you quit playing it? would you quit playing the game? Would you just never equip the sniper rifle? would you turn a 180 and realize its actually fun and say F-it and use it all the time?

I wouldn’t care either way, if it was balanced. I just don’t think it really fits in with the class the way they’ve made it so far. Most ranged attacks on the engineer besides hipshot and rifle turrets (if traited) are explosives (grenades, rocket turret, mortar). A thief would be more inherently balanced with a sniper IMO because he could be given an attack that deals very high damage, but it would be inherently costly to him. He would spend the points he uses on all his weapon skills, rather than just (for example) have a long cooldown on that particular attack.

Zinwrath.2049:

There is no harm in them having it if thats what they want as far as i’m concerned. You just need to theme it to them. Instead of their abilitys being described as long range well aimed attacks. We describe them as using a rifle that has self aiming capabilitys. What if hipshot was called ’steady shot" or “aimed shot”. The ability would remain the same but suddenly you would argue differently about whether he should have it or not.

I was referring to the animation here. The hip shot is actually fired from the hip. It just seems like it would look awesome as a shotgun attack and work well with the other skills.

Zinwrath.2049:

Often when considering a change to a game “if your a real developer” its best to weigh pro vs con….fun vs anti-fun. How would putting in this feature make the engineer less fun vs more fun. As described earlier it doesnt make it less fun for people who dont like it as they can just choose not to use it, for those who want it it makes the profession more fun. You simply balance it and adjust its abilitys to sound like something it should be doing with that weapon. The only way it would be anti-fun if it’s existance made it dreadfully hard to deal with for other classes…if that happend you would need to balance it so it doesnt, give it an obvious downside to its strengths.

My point is you can put in a sniper rifle type weapon for the engineer and just put in the tooltip an explanation of why hes able to do X attack that fits his theme and bam it works.

Keeping with a theme is also important though. The whole idea of classes is that one doesn’t do everything, else the others become redundant. A sniper on an engineer might be fun, but that doesn’t necessarily imply it belongs there. I’m not saying it doesn’t, either, if it was done properly. I just think there are more fitting classes for that function.

‘Though it is to note my rifle has a 10% chance on critical to grant Quickness, but I still dont think it’ll let me shoot like a machine gun for a short period.’

Er, yeah, that’s more or less what it does. Your skills happen faster, including your auto-attack, so you have a burst of rapid fire.

Mace off-hand has something vaguely similar (longer recharge?) to the axe thing that causes vulnerability iirc, and one surprisingly long ranged knockdown. Sword has a parry/attack and a single target ranged-ish attack (impale) that causes bleeding.

I would go with axe or mace personally. The knockdown is fun, but axe skills seem to be quicker.

OP was ripped off or bought the very VERY expensive runes/sigils.

Just keep your strengths in mind when attacking. You will not survive a long engagement, so try to hit people so hard they don’t know what happened, and flee.