Warrior, in my mind, is the best profession by far for getting the WvW achievements. Just go GS S/WH with PTV and a defensive set up and hop in a zerg. It’s the best profession for getting to the capture circle and surviving through the capture. It’s the number one profession in the game for fastest WXP when zerging as a result also.
Thief in full solder gear and with dagger/pistol+short bow will tag more and move faster for zerg tagging,and with stealth will never die if zerg get wiped :P
It’s still not going to give better WXP overall, though.
Best WXP has and always will be Karma Trains. Nothing else compares…………..
Yes exactly and warrior is the number one profession for getting WXP through karma trains hands down. Second fastest profession, 33k hp, 3.8k toughness, 6 condi removals, 3 invulnerabilities, stabilities, and 700 hp per second through heal sig + trait. This means it is the best profession for getting to the capture circle when taking defended stuff and staying alive in the cap circle.
please tell me how you get 2 sets of armor 10 utilities and have 30/30/30/30/30 on your char.
Of course you need 30/30/30/30 dont be funny
50k effective HP 1.5k HP/2s 1.5k condition dmg.
please teach me your way of getting 6 condition removal with 3 invulnerabilities while having stability and having 700 hp per second regen.
For lulz <—- Warrior forums complaining Rifle is underpowered.
To hit that hard the Warrior is running maxed out zerker (meaning dies very quickly) and you were running no/minimal toughness.
People recommend high toughness in WvW for good reason.
Sound like a fun.
Warrior without toughness and vitality traits has 18.5K HPand 2.2k armor !!! Where is your low defense ?
Warrior 21K effective HP
Thief 11.6k effective HP
Ele 10.8k effective HPWow a must say WOW. Galass cannon Warrior has 50%+ more DPS then Thief and Ele better defensive abilities and 2x more HP.
This is BALLANCE !!!!
yes, you should totally try zerker war out yourself, i bet you can’t even land one single attack before you melt like butter.
because armor and hp matter in this game. because the 10.8k hp ele wasnt the unkilleable god back then. talking about stupidity.
For lulz <—- Warrior forums complaining Rifle is underpowered.
To hit that hard the Warrior is running maxed out zerker (meaning dies very quickly) and you were running no/minimal toughness.
People recommend high toughness in WvW for good reason.
because they are talking about actual competitive pvp, and not some randomd wvw zergvzerg hiding behind and getting damage buffed by everyone else.
Warrior, in my mind, is the best profession by far for getting the WvW achievements. Just go GS S/WH with PTV and a defensive set up and hop in a zerg. It’s the best profession for getting to the capture circle and surviving through the capture. It’s the number one profession in the game for fastest WXP when zerging as a result also.
Thief in full solder gear and with dagger/pistol+short bow will tag more and move faster for zerg tagging,and with stealth will never die if zerg get wiped :P
It’s still not going to give better WXP overall, though.
Best WXP has and always will be Karma Trains. Nothing else compares…………..
Yes exactly and warrior is the number one profession for getting WXP through karma trains hands down. Second fastest profession, 33k hp, 3.8k toughness, 6 condi removals, 3 invulnerabilities, stabilities, and 700 hp per second through heal sig + trait. This means it is the best profession for getting to the capture circle when taking defended stuff and staying alive in the cap circle.
please tell me how you get 2 sets of armor 10 utilities and have 30/30/30/30/30 on your char.
yeah can’t spit anywhere w/o hitting a warrior…. soon this game will not be named “Guild Wars 2” but just “Wars 2”…. zzzzzz
the problem is that right now the class has almost no trade off
guardians sacrifice dmg for survival
thieves sacrifice survival for dmgWhat do warriors sacrifice? Nothing. No matter what build they choose they still gonna do good dmg, have good survival, moblity and CCs…-_-
The amount of noobiness in this thread is unbelievable.
not to mention those are pve mats foods
funny thing is that you can’t even open it in pvp area? lol…
The people who have actually faced this person haven’t been able to kill them yet, so what makes you think you can?
yea, no one can kill anyone if everyone just keep hiding behind 5 NPC with a bunker build lol.
yes yes bunker hiding behind 5 npcs VS 2 players and one is regen bunker ranger. i won’t even mention that ally.
any thing new?
lol, you know what…
I would be happy to duel you on my warrior when you play a thief to solve all of these problems…let’s see how long you could “perma-blind” me for before I kill you.
It is just silly that a warrior would complain about a thief when in this meta, a thief is pretty much bottom feed compared to the S-tier that is warriors.
Do you see a lot of thief players in tpvp? How is the ratio compared to warriors?
good mate.
This sums up pretty much every inexperienced player’s thoughts on warriors.
If you or anyone think that warriors get very far just spamming stuns, then you are playing at a very low tier level…thats all I gotta say.
yes, over 70% of the comments in the forums are hilariously unbelievable.
i don’t know either they are exaggerating or really believe so.
normally i don’t comment on some categories which i dont know about. but that’s not the case for a lot of people here. they just assume they know it because they countered it once or twice or just by reading random tool tips.
AA immo is removed before you swing your next attack, perm immo? come on
have some brain.
im sure trying new builds. immo build since no cd on spec leg anymore, tanky damage support with shout build etc…
with shout, you can literally burst heal your team from 1 hp to 10k+ hp in less then one sec.
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wait no, even if its true , gs damage still got shoved down because of HF BP being 30 point trait
and to stay in this meta need cleansing ire, GS LB was the best because it has the best utility and damage when every build lacks condi cleansing. not to mention the buffed necro now
but im playing it anyway just xD
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2. IF you absolutely have to use comb shot at lv1 pin the target down with 5skill
we have a smart kitten here…
how is even mace 100b strong. its just the former bullcharge frenzy 100b
without gap closer. any one who has a slight idea how it works will avoid most of it.That combo could be done once every 40 seconds. You can try the other combo once every 8 seconds. Sure no gap closer also you can use the shield to go 300 can work. Long stuns are bad game play what don’t you understand about that? You can keep some poor sap with his stun break down locked in place for six seconds if he misses a dodge or has no endurance with mace,shield, and skull crack. Thats ludicrous if it can happen one time. Its not good game play I don’t care if you can avoid it a lot of the time. If its not good then why do you care if it gets nerfed. It doesnt make sense. At least make sense trying to defend it.
ok, just say that you can’t blind can’t summon AIs can’t block can’t dodge can’t evade can’t teleport can’t stunbreak can’t stability can’t cripple can’t gain protection when disabled can’t CC because of your skill.
just tried, don’t think its much different, no utility, no stability, and 30 points in just for 3 of them. 2 soldier shake it off still won’t get you away with conditions. use other shouts for clean will just take away your damage. any other utility will make it even more useless
and i’ve seen way more warhorn warrior then shouts.
because everyone knows that Warriors lack condition removals.
where have you been? on mars? you are like 2 3 months late.
how is even mace 100b strong. its just the former bullcharge frenzy 100b
without gap closer. any one who has a slight idea how it works will avoid most of it.the build doesnt matter… i dont give a kitten about that stun/100b build.
What does > read above.i have no idea what you are trying to say tbh.
this:
Doesnt matter if the build is good or not, people complain about the 4sec stun duration from mace..
So after this they fixed the sigil… but it doesnt really matter for a 3sec stun.. its still almost +0,5sec with sigil.
What does matter that the sigil is now complete trash on a 1sec stun skill..
+15% is only nice on long stuns.. (mace) trash on other skills now.
i thought thats how the sigil meant to be, it is a bug that they gave it a whole 1 sec. they were not for low duration stun by design.
how is even mace 100b strong. its just the former bullcharge frenzy 100b
without gap closer. any one who has a slight idea how it works will avoid most of it.the build doesnt matter… i dont give a kitten about that stun/100b build.
What does > read above.
i have no idea what you are trying to say tbh.
how is even mace 100b strong. its just the former bullcharge frenzy 100b
without gap closer. any one who has a slight idea how it works will avoid most of it.
lol, i just tried lvl 1 combustive shot, man its so tiny….
yea saw that too, wondering if it was bugged like berserker power and HF which didn’t change the value even they “changed” the trait
you guys still can’t figure out why ONE sec stun increase on mace made so many “pros” QQed for months in the forum? and no, they did not start QQ right after they saw the notes
can you guys even read
The system is perfectly fine as it is. ANet want people to spread out their focus in the game and refusing to do guild missions and Fractals is your choice. It takes time but I have 6 characters with full ascended trinkets now. You clearly want everything served to you on a silver platter.
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Time should not equal power. Having a lot of free time should not give you bigger numbers. Having other interests or obligations should not result in a stat penalty. People with excessive free time have enough advantages already, such as having more time to practice and experiment with builds.
Dude what are you smoking, this is an MMO.
guardian ranger engi war bunkers are already bunkers and supports.
i don’t think mist form cap points.
healing signet and adrenal health won’t help you deal with huge damage spike in dungeons.
if elementalist is underpowered then why it took me 30min to defeat a bunker ele? we were in sPvP, map changed twice, we fought in three different maps and when the 15min line passed I became bored thinking I never ever get him down nor does he get me down. How I won him? I really didn’t, he wanted go to a gym.
I was bunkerish condition warrior.
My initial guess is you aren’t very good :/
no, bunker/bunkerish ele are the most difficult thing to kill as a warrior specially a bunkerish one
you can 1v1 one of them for more then 40 mins without result.Don’t forget I was condition warrior: dual sword + longbow and he had condition cleaning build. :P
And I still say you’re horrible for not being able to kill him. If you knew how to build a warrior the right way, he wouldn’t have even been a challenge. You’re probably using that fail meta condition build that everyone thinks is good. If you built yourself properly you’d be able to reapply those conditions faster than he could possibly cure them.
Yes, your bullcharge stomp fear me build is definitely one of the best build in the world.
if elementalist is underpowered then why it took me 30min to defeat a bunker ele? we were in sPvP, map changed twice, we fought in three different maps and when the 15min line passed I became bored thinking I never ever get him down nor does he get me down. How I won him? I really didn’t, he wanted go to a gym.
I was bunkerish condition warrior.
My initial guess is you aren’t very good :/
no, bunker/bunkerish ele are the most difficult thing to kill as a warrior specially a bunkerish one
you can 1v1 one of them for more then 40 mins without result.So many horrible warriors out there I see. Then how come I can drop them in seconds without any problem whatsoever? I have friends on other servers I usually duel with when we’re up against eachother. I know their exact build. Some of them run standard bunker build which everyone complains about being nearly impossible to kill. I’ve seen them take on 10-20 other people and not die, so they certainly aren’t bad. Yet I can drop those bunker eles in a few seconds. Like I said, most people who play warrior are idiots and you suck and have no idea how to properly (key word here being properly) build a warrior. As long as you keep using FOTM builds, of course you’re going to have trouble and keep failing like 99% of the warriors in this game who don’t know the amazing strength of the class.
because you play wvw, thats why, completely imba mode, i still don’t get till now a days why wvwers care about class balance when there’s so many imba mechanics in that mode. not to mention theres tons of noob running around. i don’t see why you wouldnt win, my friends whos pvp only pretty much, at 300 rank soloq or tpvp forgot, and i 1v1 him and win np, so i don’t think im a bad player. but the bunker ele still managed to 1v1 with me for more then 30 mins.
just because you kill some random bunkerish noob ele doesnt mean they are not hard to kill when at equal skill, and you assume that we only use meta build and being completely clueless about our job, just like every “amazing” wvw player who think too high of themselves.
it won’t be tanky as bunker guardian but it can be a pretty good support build
only if theres other support bd of other class thats being also buffed and better.
This is what happens when “insert class here” dont dodge, use stunbreakers, stand still and do nothing against “insert class here too”.
I totaly agree with your title. It was not the extreme skill of the warrior but the extreme lack of skill of the other player, he let him reach 130 range with the mace and with vigor and 2 dodges to use he just stand there. What to expect?
Just that you know MAYBE the burden of skill shouldn’t be entirely on one person. I love the whole “yeah op you didn’t pull of that insane skillshot correctly, its your fault!” defense, when the person they were fighting against required basically 0 skill to pull off their win AT ALL. Sheer deluded idiocy.
0 skill? you didn’t see that warrior was running away in the 1st place? why would a class that requires 0 skill to win run away?! i know right! mind blown!
and that warrior actually had defensive trait and stunbreaks.
thats the risk and reward right there and being outplayed for mindlessly chasing.and you know what, a defensively speced engi can take 3 full hb of a ppv war and not going lower then 70% i know, mind blown as well, war can’t touch a stunned engi, i know, so unreal! not to mention that a single blind and their stun are wasted.
lol this kid. You really have to stop what you were doing in this forum, check your history by yourself, can you realize that about 90% of your post were talking crap to others? All the things you were saying just wrong. SO WRONG. It is 0 skill indeed, especially when you see a warrior running a full cc set up, you can immediatly understand that this warrior has no skills, the only thing he can do is run a cheesy spec and make himself viable.
tell me a thing i said that is wrong. full CC set up? lol do you even know how weak that is, all of the “OP” meta warrior builds right now are not more then 60% of CC in the set up.
You should seriously start to think, just because i disagree some obviously wrong statements with legit arguments mixed with some crap talking, doesnt mean im wrong. if anyone is crap talking, you are 100%, look at your comment, pathetic. also saying kid doesnt make you any more mature then anyone, just stop.
i saw this months ago but with bunker guardian and bunker ele and bunker engi and bunker necro and bunker ranger.
are FUN or COMFORTABLE ever be in your consideration when you are playing a GAME?
if elementalist is underpowered then why it took me 30min to defeat a bunker ele? we were in sPvP, map changed twice, we fought in three different maps and when the 15min line passed I became bored thinking I never ever get him down nor does he get me down. How I won him? I really didn’t, he wanted go to a gym.
I was bunkerish condition warrior.
My initial guess is you aren’t very good :/
no, bunker/bunkerish ele are the most difficult thing to kill as a warrior specially a bunkerish one
you can 1v1 one of them for more then 40 mins without result.
This is funny. People saying that warrior beats them so hard… and then they say that they dont take stunbreakers.
Please ANet nerf direct damage on all classes because i refuse to take any sort of damage mitigation on my utilities or traits.
Please ANet nerf conditions because i refuse to take condition removal on my utlities/traits.
And buff my class because other classes can avoid my burst. Or just nerf the other classes so they cannot avoid my burst… You choose.
no this is funny
do they not hard counter alot of builds ?just yes or no
will one stunbreake save you? yes or no
will you change your build only to counter one build out of 5 in tpvp and it really isnt a “counter” par say only you not geting facerolled just rolled on.its silly sure you can run 3 stunbreakers on any class sure you can have a buld only to stop one type thing but whats the point so everyone need to fit in and evolve just for one clearly op over buff get real.
Do you need stunbreak to avoid being stunned? no
Do you have TONS of method to avoid being stunned? yes
Yes ele that can literally oneshot you in a blink of any eye without anything to dodge because all happens in a split second is surely underpowered.. no.
Ele is OP. Very OP. It’s just that the meta does not let them take over because of the condition pressure.
You just won the award for worst player of the year…
You just won the award for most stupid person of the year – GW2.
Guardian is a must have, and must have a thief or a mesmer.
the rest are just optional.
Why wont they add a ready button. Im guess the code is 2 hard for their system, or they dont have enough money, which is it?
there is a ready button
lol ele are only underpowered because of condition, they are op against everything else.
This is what happens when “insert class here” dont dodge, use stunbreakers, stand still and do nothing against “insert class here too”.
I totaly agree with your title. It was not the extreme skill of the warrior but the extreme lack of skill of the other player, he let him reach 130 range with the mace and with vigor and 2 dodges to use he just stand there. What to expect?
Just that you know MAYBE the burden of skill shouldn’t be entirely on one person. I love the whole “yeah op you didn’t pull of that insane skillshot correctly, its your fault!” defense, when the person they were fighting against required basically 0 skill to pull off their win AT ALL. Sheer deluded idiocy.
0 skill? you didn’t see that warrior was running away in the 1st place? why would a class that requires 0 skill to win run away?! i know right! mind blown!
and that warrior actually had defensive trait and stunbreaks.
thats the risk and reward right there and being outplayed for mindlessly chasing.
and you know what, a defensively speced engi can take 3 full hb of a ppv war and not going lower then 70% i know, mind blown as well, war can’t touch a stunned engi, i know, so unreal! not to mention that a single blind and their stun are wasted.
mindlessly chasing…. ok, do you even play any real time strategy game?…
oh lol.. you quoted me I assumed you were replying to me.
yea, sorry about that.
Report it as wrong subforum, please keep wvwvw discussion in wvwvw discussion forum.
should ban that guy out of PvP forums, he only does wvw and comes here just to insert his biased useless opinion about how pvp’s balance should be, with his little close to none wvw experience.
I think you may have confused me with you.
i was talking about exalibur, if it was you, i would have used you instead of that guy. if it was unclear
Report it as wrong subforum, please keep wvwvw discussion in wvwvw discussion forum.
should ban that guy out of PvP forums, he only does wvw and comes here just to insert his biased useless opinion about how pvp’s balance should be, with his little close to none wvw experience. and he doesn’t even know his own job, pathetic.
Warrior, Thief or Mesmer
Thief – terrible in ZvZ/GvG.
Mesmer – a Veil Bot for ZvZ/GvG.do you even ZvZ/GvG noob.
Yes and this is the concensus.
Lol, go on lying, just by that comment above shows that you know nothing about zvz gvg
Ask anyone.
lol, just by this answer, you have already lost this debate, thanks, good day. troll else where next time.
Warrior, Thief or Mesmer
Thief – terrible in ZvZ/GvG.
Mesmer – a Veil Bot for ZvZ/GvG.do you even ZvZ/GvG noob.
Yes and this is the concensus.
Lol, go on lying, just by that comment above shows that you know nothing about zvz gvg
and all you do on forum are just bash warrior with none sense biased arguments that only shows how you have 0 knowledge about this game. get a life, seriously
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Warrior, Thief or Mesmer
Thief – terrible in ZvZ/GvG.
Mesmer – a Veil Bot for ZvZ/GvG.
do you even ZvZ/GvG noob.
Warriors are brokenly overpowered right now, because:
- They have the best CC in the game.
- They have the best cleanse in the game.
- They have the best sustain in the game without speccing into it.
- They have the best stability uptime in the game.
- They can reach ridiculous critchances with amulets not featuring precision.
- They have the best (or second best) mobility in the game.
- They are insanely easy to play right now.
look, another 30/30/30/30/30 gs hammer lb mace shield warrior build
so epic overpowered.
It is really high skill spec. It always seems easy when you watching me play, but if you standing beside my screen and watch my plays, you will be shocked because my fingers are moving super fast.
super cool man…
The one you said spamming skills when thief is stealth is kinda wrong. If you are against a good thief, you will get kitten due to spaming and guessing where the stealth thief is.
thing is you just spammed lb f1 and 3 on yourself and spammed gs 1 around the area, how is that not spam and not guessing, im sure people know how to do that.
LB spam is totally wrong as well due to the thief’s steal skill. The Whirlwind that thief uses will reflect all the projectile. If you don’t stop and time the right timing, you will fk yourself again.
by your means, just because i stopped for reflection for a period of time, it becomes non spam automatically, even tho you 542 spammed alot outside of that time period.
Healing signet is balance in this spec. Poison counters with a low armor. High risk, none mistake required.
i never said it was not balanced in the 1st place, i said it was passive, which means you never need to click it, yet you claim it a high skill spec. and poison counter all form of healing, even healing surge so not an excuse.
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