There’s no reason not to do it tbh.
atleast 1500+ runs, like 10+ skins. which is avg luck like most people i know
you are probably just a extremely unlucky exception.
Well, i think this is more related to pve, since the new fotm skins you can already convert them to pvp weapons
but the old ones are still weapons, people also asked for it to become skins so they won’t need to buy transmutation stone.
Im actually interested in how you are going to remove PvP and PvE gear difference
mind explain more in this category?
Hello devs, do you get gold at the end of the match or you get it from chests?
Please make a way to do it.
it would be lovely if i can get some of the unused untransmuted fotm weapons in to pvp
don’t listen to Arganthium.5638 troll non sense noob who doesn’t know any thing other then thief and his build is kitten bad.
anyway, warrior rifle is not viable in competitive matches
but if you want some thing kills people from far and goes down like tissue if you catch him, probably war rifle (wvw only). in tpvp rifle rarely kill anyone tbh.
oh btw, you should try staff ele, i play it from time to time, huge aoe that does insane damage, 4.5k damage on light armor classes per number 1 skill with fast cast time and 1200 range, and you break like a tissue , but if you are good at it you can basically burst some one to death in an instant before he can touch you.
Yes, S/D w/ SB and the 10/0/0/30/30 trait line has been refuted and is a terrible build. On the other hand, staff ele is OP and Rifle sucks.
did i ever say staff ele is op? i mentioned it because it mets the most his demands, and rifle sucks , try it. now go away.
some times i just keep asking myself, why do i keep bothering myself with some one like you who can’t obviously read over and over again in all these threads. this will be my last reply to you, troll on my friend, troll on
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don’t listen to Arganthium.5638 troll non sense noob who doesn’t know any thing other then thief and his build is kitten bad.
anyway, warrior rifle is not viable in competitive matches
but if you want some thing kills people from far and goes down like tissue if you catch him, probably war rifle (wvw only). in tpvp rifle rarely kill anyone tbh.
oh btw, you should try staff ele, i play it from time to time, huge aoe that does insane damage, 4.5k damage on light armor classes per number 1 skill with fast cast time and 1200 range, and you break like a tissue , but if you are good at it you can basically burst some one to death in an instant before he can touch you.
If 1200 range is unnecessary, then why do most other professions have it? Shouldn’t they be nerfed down to 900 range as well?
Exactly. If 1200 isn’t necessary why would warrior or guard have 1200? And I’m not saying to take it away from them, but give thief a similar option. I want to kill the tentacles in fractals and hit the freaking oil in charr fractal, i want to be able to attack a tower without compromising my behind with bad camera angles. Omg I want heat seeking back!
sorry my friend, tentacles can be killed without 1200 range, in fact 900 range is enough to not be hit and hit it, oh and i melee only those things on my thief, just saying.
what are you talking about oil, i never had a problem hitting oil with my sb, plus its aoe that bounces on multiple targets make it even easier to take out 3 of them on main gate. really?
complain about having bad camera angles when attacking a tower? its like other classes saying why can’t they walk through enemy zerg like its nothing.
also your argument make no sense, engis doesnt have signets, “if it isn’t necessary why everyone else have” and warrior doesn’t have skills that summon AIs/NPCs, “if it isn’t necessary why everyone else have”.
i hope i can finally be able to get my asura characters to 80, pve leveling is super boring..
I think alot of people here said it best. No stealth, no AI, no perma-vigor, no protection, average overall healing, low evasiveness, easily telegraphed skills.
Really? Your argument is that warriors can’t stealth (why would a heavy armored character stealth?), can’t use vigor (the whole point of the class is to be able to take the hits, no need to dodge them), average healing (tell that to a mesmer, thief, or necro), and easily telegraphed skills? (of course they should be telegraphed if they stun for 3 seconds and do 5k+ damage)
yes, i would totally have all those skills+in fight mobility that prevent me from being damaged and have a low cd healing skill with nice utility that heals me for 50% in case if i get hit.
warrior will be op on a whole new level, just saying.
hey actually, you totally make sense, 18k hp+heavy+alot of healing=op, no wonder warriors used to be free kill tier and gets destroyed by mesmers even now, you are smart.
man, you must be the best player with tons of knowledge, i’m impressed.
buy gem>turn it in to gold>buy precursor>?>profit
i don’t think any avg player would ever have the gold to purchase any gs dagger sword precursor.
1200 range is necessary in all game modes if only because it helps you do what flanking is meant to do: get you away from melee enemies while still dealing some degree of damage, and possibly causing your enemy to overextend or flee.
1200 range is very unnecessary in pve, im all for forcing everyone to have a max of 600 range in pve
Run all fractals @ level 40 without using ranged weapons and color me impressed.
Until then ranged weapons are a mandatory element of PvE many encounters.
You can argue about what’s necessary and what’s not since most of the stuff in this game is either easy or doesn’t punish you for failure.
But still a Thief loses quite a bit of his DPS due to his 900 range limitation. And I just don’t see any justification for it.
my thief with only 30ar used to run old fotm48 70%+ melee and never died once(only switch to my main for maw)
oh and i love melee bosses.
range attacks is required, but 1200 is not required. tell me why 900 range limit its dps? i don’t remember any fight i have to get out of 900 range, and i’ve done hundreds and hundreds of fotm.
that made so many sense, so many
I’m sort about Backstab’s coefficient of 2.4. You must have difficulty defeating thieves with your Rifle’s Kill Shot’s coefficient of 3.75. :c
Oh god, please never pretend Kill Shot is a reliable/good skill. I don’t play warrior and even I know that move is an absolute joke… >_>:
If you’re talking about the cast time, then I could always mention that you first have to, y’know, see your enemy coming, and then you have to react extremely quickly; not burning all of your evades is probably going to be necessary, because the effects of being 1-shotted are disastrous otherwise.
Either way, that’s over 150% of BS’s damage; of course it should have some weaknesses.
i wonder why rifle was never a viable weapon in tpvp.
I just used it in sPvP. Created a warrior 20 mins ago, was too lazy to find a good build online. I just created a GC rifle build and it worked extremely well compared to other BS’d builds I’ve made in the past.
and i run my thief naked in spvp, real cool story.
1200 range is necessary in all game modes if only because it helps you do what flanking is meant to do: get you away from melee enemies while still dealing some degree of damage, and possibly causing your enemy to overextend or flee.
1200 range is very unnecessary in pve, im all for forcing everyone to have a max of 600 range in pve
Run all fractals @ level 40 without using ranged weapons and color me impressed.
Until then ranged weapons are a mandatory element of PvE many encounters.
You can argue about what’s necessary and what’s not since most of the stuff in this game is either easy or doesn’t punish you for failure.
But still a Thief loses quite a bit of his DPS due to his 900 range limitation. And I just don’t see any justification for it.
my thief with only 30ar used to run old fotm48 70%+ melee and never died once(only switch to my main for maw)
oh and i love melee bosses.
range attacks is required, but 1200 is not required. tell me why 900 range limit its dps? i don’t remember any fight i have to get out of 900 range, and i’ve done hundreds and hundreds of fotm.
I’m sort about Backstab’s coefficient of 2.4. You must have difficulty defeating thieves with your Rifle’s Kill Shot’s coefficient of 3.75. :c
Oh god, please never pretend Kill Shot is a reliable/good skill. I don’t play warrior and even I know that move is an absolute joke… >_>:
If you’re talking about the cast time, then I could always mention that you first have to, y’know, see your enemy coming, and then you have to react extremely quickly; not burning all of your evades is probably going to be necessary, because the effects of being 1-shotted are disastrous otherwise.
Either way, that’s over 150% of BS’s damage; of course it should have some weaknesses.
i wonder why rifle was never a viable weapon in tpvp.
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wow that is not what I expected to read when clicking on this post…
when I think of how broken thief is it tends to be of how garbage they are, not so much how op they are, but whatever back to my 1v4 warrior !
hmmm, no, back to my 1v10 thief. oh wait, wvw uplevels that way>>. bro.
You surely don’t know how this games work don’t you? mesmer have been warrior killer since the beginning. even now. go make one, and my friends mesmer will faceroll you, or actually go ask better players and question your own skill, before qqing like a little kitten.
Nope, I know absolutely nothing about the game. I am completely ignorant and this is only one of my first posts ever on these forums. Furthermore, even within my own community, I have contributed virtually nothing to the betterment of this game. I have not made any builds worth looking at, and I thus have no credibility whatsoever to these very important and deep debates.
Sorry, but knowing thief doesn’t make you any more credible on the subject between mesmer and warrior. nice try.
Neither does knowing that the formula for the marginal benefit per point of precision is equivalent to…
1+((((1-(1/21*0.01+Critical Chance)((1/21*0.01Critical Chance)))/(1-Critical Chance+((Critical Chance)(Total Critical Damage)))-1)Defensive Amplification+1)-1)Additional Offensive Amplification
…I suppose, then. But it’s okay guys; Lighter has all of the facts and mountains of evidence supporting him. Every word he says must be regarded as true, for he is the brilliant prodigy seeking to end world hunger and to colonize other planets light years away.
Yea, Ctrl C+V unrelated formulas like this won’t help you in anyway other then showing your incapacity of continue arguing on the correct subject. good day.
You surely don’t know how this games work don’t you? mesmer have been warrior killer since the beginning. even now. go make one, and my friends mesmer will faceroll you, or actually go ask better players and question your own skill, before qqing like a little kitten.
Nope, I know absolutely nothing about the game. I am completely ignorant and this is only one of my first posts ever on these forums. Furthermore, even within my own community, I have contributed virtually nothing to the betterment of this game. I have not made any builds worth looking at, and I thus have no credibility whatsoever to these very important and deep debates.
Sorry, but knowing thief doesn’t make you any more credible on the subject between mesmer and warrior. nice try.
What makes you think that there’s only heal in this game. the amount of healing you get from your number 6 doesn’t give you more sustain, why warrior used to be free kill tier, when healing surge heal for like 10k on zerker.
Healing signet is not OP, no one ever actually proved it OP. if it has the best healing, then possibly explain why it’s low tier bunker? and healing signet does not work in zerker, only if your enemy is a ultra bunker that does no damage.
if you keep “balancing” the game just around the amount of health a healing skill brings, then balance will not exist in this game.
No, nobody proved it. My post explaining how the heal is higher than every other profession’s heal by a significant margin certainly didn’t prove anything. That has nothing to do with the subject. Absolutely nothing at all.
Can you read or not, i bet you can’t, read it again, oh you still can’t? keep balancing the game with only one skill, one day you will find out how clueless you were. Hey, let me be clear, what did you prove by stating that healing signet heals more? that warrior has the best sustain through being the best bunker? lol no, like you said you proved “Absolutely nothing at all.”
If you’re worried about these classes kiting you, you’re probably just a bad warrior. Most of the time classes have to get right up in your face and try to take you out in a toe-to-toe duel since warriors regen health at one of the most ridiculously OP rates in the game, have heavy armor, and amazing base stats, among other things… Melee tends to be the only way to deal with that kind of defense, and in melee, warriors tend to excel compared to other classes.
that isn’t necessarily so. And warrior’s regen isn’t ridiculously OP. Good mesmers will give any warrior trouble because of their stealth, random procs on aegis, blurred frenzy, teleports and overall ways to mitigate damage. They can easily kite full melee warriors to death quite simply because they have as many get out of jail free cards as the warriors have stuns. All the while the mesmers are putting a lot of conditions on you and the clones/illusions attacking you. They have more than enough DPS to take a warrior down from range.
If a mesmer can’t kite a full melee warrior and let them run a muck on you melee they are a bad mesmer. I have a feeling you just face a lot of baddies.
While it is true that the warrior has among the best melee in the game, I would also argue that Necros are very deadly if you aren’t careful, good thieves can pick you apart in melee although I don’t think they are a huge issue. A warrior has a lot of healing and toughness and are tanky themselves, but very possible to take down, even from range. You just have to force warriors to blow their shield cooldown, they aren’t very evasive at all in melee combat, at least compared to mesmers, rangers, thieves, d/d eles. And if warriors use hammers, they are that much easier to kite. It isn’t difficult to dodge their stuns/knockdowns whatsoever. And a hammer is useless if one can’t land any of them. Fighting a warrior, all you really need to do is save your dodges for some of the most telegraphed animations in the game.
If warriors have a longbow, then it is a little different, but when they use longbow you can take advantage of warriors in melee because they have low combat evasiveness. Only thing u really need to worry about is the amount of pulses of burning you have. A longbow is only good until most of the major cooldowns are blown, because the autoattacks are slow.
~400 health per second, just from a passive signet? That’s pretty good. I’d have to be hitting you at least 4 times per second in order to get that kind of healing as a thief, and an ele would have to cast, on average, ~2.5 spells per second, which is fairly demanding.
As for mesmers, mesmers have no way to reduce your heals via poison (which the majority of the professional thief community agrees is one of the, if not the best way to counter warriors). Furthermore, if you’ve ever played a mesmer, you have to realize that all of that DPS and condition damage is hardly possible unless the mesmer is running very high DPS gear, in which case you can probably take out the mesmer fairly quickly anyways. Y’all also have some very good condition removal/dampening.
Necros are only deadly, if anything, because of a single short-CD signet which is, in large fights, often the equivalent of an insta-kill. Still, warrs hardly need to worry about that because of skills like Zerker Stance and traits like Cleansing Ire, which, paired with insanely high adrenaline regen, makes condition play very difficult against warriors.
As for hammer- if the enemy kites, you can just kite back, or close the gap quickly with GS. At melee, you can’t evade every telegraphed animation; warrs just need to spam them enough, and eventually they’ll hit one of their attacks and you’ll have to burn a stun break; eventually, you’ll just get killed because of a lack of stun breakers or whatnot. Either way, it’s extremely dangerous to face a hammer at melee range.
You surely don’t know how this games work don’t you? mesmer have been warrior killer since the beginning. even now. go make one, and my friends mesmer will faceroll you, or actually go ask better players and question your own skill, before qqing like a little kitten.
What makes you think that there’s only heal in this game. the amount of healing you get from your number 6 doesn’t give you more sustain, why warrior used to be free kill tier, when healing surge heal for like 10k on zerker.
Healing signet is not OP, no one ever actually proved it OP. if it has the best healing, then possibly explain why it’s low tier bunker? and healing signet does not work in zerker, only if your enemy is a ultra bunker that does no damage.
if you keep “balancing” the game just around the amount of health a healing skill brings, then balance will not exist in this game.
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They may want to look into doing this for all the leap attks in this game. These attks are more made for closing gaps not for running away. Such as the War class is made for staying on there target not being able to run away from there target (very un-war like). I think this is true for the thf class (daggers leap) and gurd class (GS leap) this is all i can think of.
yes, warrior should get target teleport…all wars gap closers are slow and affect by conditions, that’s why they run away.
Hey, how about making ride the lighting affected by chill and cripple and run for like 200 range.
i have both warrior and ele, your thread is just stupid.
i would pay a lot for a race change
this is lovely, my sword won’t drop its value.
yes, my friends went to wvw, pseudo quit, pretty bad.
He said virtue of resolve… How are you still comparing all these classes heals to guardian’s SECOND heal? o.O Virtue of resolve is the F2 button…
I’m comparing them to show how guardian heal skills are arguably worse than those with similar functionalities from other classes, so passive virtue of resolve is not as powerful as it may seem at first glance.
It doesn’t matter at all if it’s a second heal or not. Exaggerating, if a class has access to a couple of 2k heals while others have just a 4k single one, the healing output is the same.So you are trying to say that guardian should get way better regen or what. make a point
Of course. Warrior should never out regen guardian.
i think this thread can end here with this awesome constructive post that has insane amount of reasoning, thinking and ideas behind.
/thread
You must play a warrior.
Please complain how guardian need more survibility buff else where, and i play thief warrior and ele, now go away, you are embarrassing yourself.
You’ve been pretty much speaking for me. I say you must play warrior then you write about how I’m complaining about survivability. Something I didn’t even mention up, you actually did. Applying what you think I’m doing to yourself would do you a great service.
Aside from that, if you are comparing survivability. Are you comparing it with a zerker thief and warrior vs a cleric guardian? Then of course guardian would have higher survivability. A zerker thief/warrior vs zerker guardian, then both thief and warrior have much greater survivability.
Oh my god, eff the logic right. buff regen =/= buff survibility, so much mind blown.
tell me how zerker guardian have less survivibility then zerker warrior and zerker thief, and how bunker guardian have less survibility then bunker war, i bet you play non of those, too much bs, just too much bs.
not going to waste time with your biased bs anymore, ill wait for other people to bother themselves with you.
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He said virtue of resolve… How are you still comparing all these classes heals to guardian’s SECOND heal? o.O Virtue of resolve is the F2 button…
I’m comparing them to show how guardian heal skills are arguably worse than those with similar functionalities from other classes, so passive virtue of resolve is not as powerful as it may seem at first glance.
It doesn’t matter at all if it’s a second heal or not. Exaggerating, if a class has access to a couple of 2k heals while others have just a 4k single one, the healing output is the same.So you are trying to say that guardian should get way better regen or what. make a point
Of course. Warrior should never out regen guardian.
i think this thread can end here with this awesome constructive post that has insane amount of reasoning, thinking and ideas behind.
/thread
You must play a warrior.
Please complain how guardian need more survibility buff else where, and i play thief warrior and ele, now go away, you are embarrassing yourself.
He said virtue of resolve… How are you still comparing all these classes heals to guardian’s SECOND heal? o.O Virtue of resolve is the F2 button…
I’m comparing them to show how guardian heal skills are arguably worse than those with similar functionalities from other classes, so passive virtue of resolve is not as powerful as it may seem at first glance.
It doesn’t matter at all if it’s a second heal or not. Exaggerating, if a class has access to a couple of 2k heals while others have just a 4k single one, the healing output is the same.So you are trying to say that guardian should get way better regen or what. make a point
Of course. Warrior should never out regen guardian.
i think this thread can end here with this awesome constructive post that has insane amount of reasoning, thinking and ideas behind.
/thread
He said virtue of resolve… How are you still comparing all these classes heals to guardian’s SECOND heal? o.O Virtue of resolve is the F2 button…
I’m comparing them to show how guardian heal skills are arguably worse than those with similar functionalities from other classes, so passive virtue of resolve is not as powerful as it may seem at first glance.
It doesn’t matter at all if it’s a second heal or not. Exaggerating, if a class has access to a couple of 2k heals while others have just a 4k single one, the healing output is the same.
So you are trying to say that guardian should get way better regen or what. make a point
the better possible solution is keep the ones that are already bought and remove it from TP.
And make a super-exclusive-extra-shiny-mega-limited-ultra-rare discontinued version of the most popular light cultural armor and suddenly make some accounts worth $1000s if sold illegally?
That’s more damaging than actually keeping the armor available.
so i guess my super sexy exclusive extra shiny megae limited braham’s shield and other stuff already made my account $10000 worth
Not at all. This armor is ridiculously popular and a reason SO many make Human light characters. Having an “upgraded” version of this is what would make an account illegally worth a small fortune.
But in time, yes, discontinued items can, infact, make accounts worth a bunch illegally, talking GW2, Ghastly Grinning Shield for one could illegally be sold for $100s. If we talk other games, I will use RuneScape as an example as I’m sure many have played that, a few years ago there we items that made accounts worth $10,000s. That could spiral into the same, just from things being discontinued.
But now this is getting sketchy and I’ve had far too many infractions recently.
many people are jealous of my braham shield tho, and other limited stuff.
the better possible solution is keep the ones that are already bought and remove it from TP.
And make a super-exclusive-extra-shiny-mega-limited-ultra-rare discontinued version of the most popular light cultural armor and suddenly make some accounts worth $1000s if sold illegally?
That’s more damaging than actually keeping the armor available.
so i guess my super sexy exclusive extra shiny megae limited braham’s shield and other stuff already made my account $10000 worth
the better possible solution is keep the ones that are already bought and remove it from TP.
but people will still qq about it, yea, man this is effed up.
i wouldnt spend that $10 if it was not that skin.
It’s Dessa. But yes..even that weird happening with Dessa at the end was more interesting than anything that happened in the Thaumanova Fractal.
Yea, Dessa, couldnt remember her name lol.
Thaumanova reactor was not interesting
But the story of Kesse the asura, girl on in the entrance of fotm, which was linked with Thaumanova reactor is interesting. if you see what happened at the end of the story mode. kesse said that she couldnt leave the place even if she want to.
Kesse seems like to be stack in some kind of time loop or maybe the fotm entrance itself is a fotm, kesse, her crew and the island might have been an event in the past and that they are already died long ago, that explain why when kesse leave the place, she teleported back to it and have her memory reset.
story after this might be something interesting.
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3/10 most recycle stuff, best thing was that final boss on new asura fractal.
no pvp legendary, no balance, no new skins, no pvp rewards, no asceneded gear, no revamped precursor, fotm was just some slight tweaks with recycle event dungeons and bosses.
well, tons of people bought that t3 light armor and love it and paid less and get them on other races… soooo idk man…
How is that Anet’s fault? Please explain further..
they can simply make it so that the match does not start without everyone clicking ready.
and if everyone is not ready in a period of time, everyone gets kick out, simple as that.
i got non infused ring too but not like i care, only skins are worthy now.
2 4v5 on my side, why? anet why?
it was awesome, more bosses should be like this, thanks anet.
no kidding.
haha my sylvari is getting that t3 for only 50g with flame effect!!!
yea i know, this one is specially late for some reason, i thought i could experience it before i gtg but guess not.
Kiel is like Trahearne, someone who benefited from our hard work in slaying the bad guys.
Evon is like a Saint, someone who single handedly saved Lion’s Arch without piggybacking off of another hero’s work.
The choice was obvious. Evon should have won on merit alone.
Umm what? Evon went to LA to extort the people there. Then he had a change of heart and killed his captain and then ran the Black Lion Trading company himself. He has done nothing to be considered a “Saint”.
Ellen on the other hand is part of the Lionguard and helped defend LA from the Risen. She also led the investigation and counterattack against the Karka, and helped defeat the Queen, and then stayed on the Island to aid the refugees. She even destroyed the contracts that the Consortium were using to make the refugees slaves. She is also the one who opened the investigation with Marjory against the Aetherblades and even located their base, where they captured the leader of the Aetherblades.
So sorry, but Evon has done nothing compared to Ellen. Ellen is a hero, while Evon is just a simple trader.
So you think that go against his own brothers, saving tons of innocent people in Lion arch is nothing. interesting
Oh, btw, Kield did nothing, We players did it all, she just take rewards at the end which should have been ours.
It’s funny how everyone cries about could have beens and other possibilities that didn’t come to occur.
If Evon had won, and his content failed to meet players’ expectations, there would also be a wave of Kiel supporters spamming ‘I told you so’ threads.Arguing about could and might have beens is not productive, because there’s no way to prove anything. It’s like watching atheists arguing with creatonists all over again.
Nop, there wouldnt be a wave of kield supporters spamming i told you so, because they don’t care about fractal, they voted for Kield because of WP costs, Every one of us who actually cared about fractal voted for Evon. if abbandon didnt meet peoples expectation, then reactor will simply not either.
s/p and you are god.
Who cares about story when playing fractals? Stories down there are tiny, insignificant snippets with a few fights thrown in.
Since it is content meant to play more than once, quality of the gaming experience is the only thing I care about. And because I couldn’t (and still can’t) see the future, I didn’t know which fractal would turn out the best.
So I voted based on the only criterion that did affect me: WP cost vs. cheaper keys. I do use WPs, yet I never have bought nor do I ever intend to buy keys. The simple fact is, a handful of silver saved on WPs did me more good than cheaper keys I wasn’t going to buy.
In hindsight, all the teeth gnashing by the losing side’s supporters has also been rather amusing, and now I get to occasionally play an asura without having to really play one. What’s to hate? I stand by my choice.
i know right who cares about story.
all i care is that if i can fight a god or its servants in an epic battleground, or just blow another reactor.
but what could it be? I mean, you already have the physical fighter (warrior) and the magical fighter (guardian), any idea for this 3rd heavy class?
speed fighter? that would be great.
sounds like a thief
yea, but with warrior like weapon skills, can use greatsword, hammer, etc. no stealth. also 10k base hp
but what could it be? I mean, you already have the physical fighter (warrior) and the magical fighter (guardian), any idea for this 3rd heavy class?
speed fighter? that would be great.
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