Guild Wars 2

Gamgee.8612:

I wouldn’t roll a Warrior today. People will say that you are OP as an excuse for literally anything.

this too, theres days i was running old school free kill tier zerker build.
and people were like " oh i can’t wait to see you nerfed, op wars"
i was like what?!!!!

In roaming? don’t listen to them, they are badies.

in zerg train yes, but thief was never a train class.

in roaming, best classes are thief engi and mesmer, and i don’t think they play wvw, because there’s pretty much close to no warrior roamer, but thieves, mesmers and some engis, in either tier 1,2,5,8. necros could be god if they actually had some mobility.

Don’t listen to noobs saying warriors are the best dungeon class, no its not,
every class can be good, perhaps better then, if you put your time in it, my friends a necro with legendary and hes a beast in dungeon so is my ele friend(best dps). warriors are only the best pug class, since all it can do is pretty much put out ok damage while being more tough, easy and simple, no much support or other mechanics, so its the best class to avoid noobs who will screw up your team. if you don’t get what i mean, a party with a noob pug warrior has less chance of getting wiped then with a noob other classes like mesmer ele thief necro, but if these guys are good players then the situation will be equal or the other way around.

second thing, WvW roamer gods are condition thieves and PU mesmer or engineer, no other wise, don’t listen to those noobs.

but most of all play what you like

mini.6018:

Glass mesmer got outplayed by glass warrior. L2p issue since glass war is the easiest proffesion to kill besides pve mobs.Common knowledge a mesmer should not die to warrior regardless of spec for the matter.Loving the tears.

redslion.9675:

Soul.5947:

I play a mesmer and just got hit by a war with 13 k eviscerate. I don’t mind the fact that it’s hard to avoid and it hits like a truck, what i do mind though is that it’s a class with more hp and more defence then me doing this damage. That’s a class with more condi removal and good mobility and what’s even more upsetting is that’s not even skillful playing. I don’t know how many of you play a mesmer but i can tell you that for a mesmer to output 13 k dps we have to go through a lot of trouble, while war has to switch to axe and press f1. I don’t even think any other class can have such a big burst.
I wish we had some dps meters to see just how pathetic all the other classes are compared to warriors. And if it’s not burst they do they have sustain like nobody else. Anyone managed to avoid longbow F1 so far while trying to defend a point ? The fact that the difference in power between classes is absurd and to the people saying if you think warriors are so strong why don’t you just play one i will say that i don’t want to play a game with only warriors and spirit rangers. 1 year and counting and balance is still nowhere to be found in gw2. I thought any class could do everything other classes can, but nothing can compare to warriors in any aspect of the game.

You got killed by a glass warrior.

Yes, he has a bit more hp and a bit more armor than you, but probably won’t have much defense on his own. No point on defense traitline, Endure Pain at most.

Glass warrior are still one of the hardest things to play because have almost no room for defense and still have to take damage to their teeth.

Before the buff warrior used to deal even higher damage. And they were the laughing stock of GW2 pvp

And no, Hambow isn’t glass at all.

listen to these men, and question yourself : why i’m bad yet complaining.
you can probably do 15k when warriors were free kill tier.

Couldn’t agree more, 2x AA is easier to land then final thrust. The hit-box is extremely bad, enemy avoid it by simply walking left and right in front of your face
there’s pretty much no point of using above 50% health, and really little point using it below 50%.

it feels like it takes more time to cast then healing surge, even tho it says 3/4

and 15 CD for a skill like this is too long.

Lol longbow is what makes warrior OP?

here’s a fun fact, it’s been there since free kill tier.

no devs will take your thread seriously. how embarrassing.

good day.

Pay to win free to play korean MMOs are for you.

Because, HS doesnt work any better then healing surge when you have none healing power and toughness/ zerker

any none cc build zerker take HS basically asking to get killed right away.

….the new timing is just so off…the animation is so invisible for the player himself…before i can see my character swinging..now i can’t see it, its vertical…

STRanger.5120:

Lighter.5631:

i have a war and a ele
let’s say RTL can not be affected by conditions, while rush move like a snail with condition on, like 300~ range with chill and cripple if my memory is correct.

according to devs, ele used to rtl away and water heal up and quick engage again. they made it so that you can quick engage and disengage, but wont be able to quick engage again after it.

again if you are comparing about pure range, game is not balanced on how far you can run off fight in open world…

and for everyone saying that rush bc sword2 out run anyone, i have a thief too, i must say no one..no one can out run a thief in terms of off fight map running..just…too.. fast

According to what I’ve heard and tried with my Warrior and Thief (yeah I have those characters also, strange, right? ) Thief is faster on shorter distances (his speed is more bursty because no CD on #5 shortbow), but Warrior is faster on longer distances, quite a bit…
And Ele is screwed in both scenarios, period.

idk but my thief ran way faster then warrior when opening maps. i think it was sword, signet of shadowstep and endurance, withdraw, sb, initiative on signet use and shadowstep, remember to use steal too ofc

sword2 and signet can both be used on monsters of any range(thats two sb5 with close to no ini use), signet also grants initiative on use so more sb5, dodge swiftness and stuff

pretent to be dps? get two sets of armor with the same look, one tanky set one zerker, just pin the zerker and wear the tanky

i have a war and a ele
let’s say RTL can not be affected by conditions, while rush move like a snail with condition on, like 300~ range with chill and cripple if my memory is correct.

according to devs, ele used to rtl away and water heal up and quick engage again. they made it so that you can quick engage and disengage, but wont be able to quick engage again after it.

again if you are comparing about pure range, game is not balanced on how far you can run off fight in open world…

and for everyone saying that rush bc sword2 out run anyone, i have a thief too, i must say no one..no one can out run a thief in terms of off fight map running..just…too.. fast

because thieves are a lot squishier and cant afford to become a slow moving target

getting flamed by people of your own class is embarrassing.

Lux.7169:

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

Lux.7169:

Can you source where they said they would put PvP legendaries on hold? I have been watching that info like a hawk and recall no such statement.

It was not adressed in pvp forums, but in game discussion. All crafting of precursors and legendary weapons in different aspects of the game has not meet it’s time lines and will occur later on now.

Thanks for clarifying. I do recall reading about a delay on crafting precursors and new legendaries but I missed anything that suggested a delay to PvP legendaries. I wish there were more clear methods used to communicate information like that to the player base.

I believe that pvp legendaries are already in the game, because we can preview it with codes, but not releasing any time soon yet.

codes like these
[&AgEgwAAA][&AgEhwAAA][&AgEiwAAA][&AgEjwAAA][&AgEkwAAA][&AgElwAAA][&AgEmwAAA][&AgEnwAAA][&AgEowAAA][&AgEpwAAA][&AgEqwAAA][&AgErwAAA][&AgEswAAA][&AgEtwAAA][&AgEuwAAA][&AgEvwAAA][&AgEwwAAA][&AgExwAAA][&AgEywAAA][&AgEzwAAA][&AgE0wAAA]

only bad warriors complained about that term, thieves are one of the easier class for free kill tier warrior=full damage warrior=only build working warrior. engi ranger mesmer were the real pain in the a. even i used to flame other warriors for saying thieves are op during free kill tier war.

now i repeat “only bad warriors complained about that term”. and it’s happening again, just on other classes. if you get it.

ens.9854:

Lighter.5631:

personally i’ve been top 500+, played zerker only on ele thief and warrior, after so many 4v5 in a role, teams full of zerker and low ranks running all around the place leaving points uncapped, i just play bunker now…

Most of my pvp only friends stopped qing and only do hotjoins now, that’s probably what i’ll do as well.

but that’s probably because of the finals season.

and i’ve notice the ridiculously increased amount of a thieves too..there’s atleast 4 thieves per match the last time when i played pvp…i hate to say this, because i play thief too, but i hate seeing any other thief beside myself with another zerker class in a team, i can bare with 2 thieves and 3 tanky but this.. mostly because their inability of play…base on the past experience, i find myself hardly trusting any thief, only if i know them…

Strange, I have the opposite problem. Playing bunker is a recipe for a good headache as I watch my team struggle to down a single player. Everybody is using durable “meta” builds and nobody has any dps.

I’d much rather play burst in the blind because at least you can pull some clutch plays instead of reviving a player that’s going to be downed right away again, or worse being left in a 1vX forever, losing your point, and not being able to get it back cause you’re a bunker and your team can’t do squat. Too many times I’ve helped my team struggle to cap middle in foefire (basically winning the match) only for them to all run to far point for some 4v2 and lose mid a minute later tossing the game.

i thought about it too, but thing is, if they struggle downing anyone in zerg, it would be a pain for them to guard any point too. so i choose bunker, but thats just imo.

I think it would be nice to make it so that when in stealth, monsters attack misses you.
Or if its too op, you can give it a percentage, like with a 50% 66% 75% chance of missing you. i think this would greatly increase the value of stealth build in pve

Or maybe this is just my inability of playing stealth build in a pve environment.

any thoughts?

Thief kill warrior?
DP> blind spam> ?>winning.
berserker stance?> stealth> dodge the cc(easy)>shadowstep>?>profit
SD>dodge, dodge, CCed? sword 2>?>profit
Longbow> steal>whirling axe>?>profit
Whirling axe in smoke field is useful too
AA>apply poison>steal>poison>?>profit.
that’s how i fight warriors on my thief, clearly way easier then fighting some condition aoe spamming class…

personally i’ve been top 500+, played zerker only on ele thief and warrior, after so many 4v5 in a role, teams full of zerker and low ranks running all around the place leaving points uncapped, i just play bunker now…

Most of my pvp only friends stopped qing and only do hotjoins now, that’s probably what i’ll do as well.

but that’s probably because of the finals season.

and i’ve notice the ridiculously increased amount of a thieves too..there’s atleast 4 thieves per match the last time when i played pvp…i hate to say this, because i play thief too, but i hate seeing any other thief beside myself with another zerker class in a team, i can bare with 2 thieves and 3 tanky but this.. mostly because their inability of play…base on the past experience, i find myself hardly trusting any thief, only if i know them…

Sirendor.1394:

Crovax.7854:

Zelyhn.8069:

The truth is that warriors have the highest armor, hp and close to the best personal defensive abilities (more dodges and blocks).

no

yes…
Warrior has endure pain and a block-everything shield block. Guardian has 3 blocks on focus, renewed focus. I don’t see why guardian has so much less hp.

That’s why warrior is the best pug class because it can protect itself while dealing damage.

Guardian on the other hand is team player, a lot of access to protection too, it can block projectile for your team and aoe pull, make fights and stacking so much easier, you would always want a guardian over warrior in dungeons.

let’s not mention that, guardian can outdamage warrior in a team scenario.

PvE wise
Best dungeon class = guardian
best dps class = ele
best pug class = warrior

any question?

wait what, so many people getting skins from 10+?……

Excalibur.9748:

Click to dodge is utlra hard mode, it aquire insane amount of accuracy of aiming.

“Click to dodge is utlra hard mode, it aquire insane amount of accuracy of aiming.” – Lighter

Thanks for the new signature noob.

Try it , i bet you can’t dodge a kitten with it. wanna bet? oh wait, you can’t even dodge anything by pressing buttons.

you want signatures? there’s a tons epic ones come from your own. want me to find them for ya?

Excalibur.9748:

it’s hard to beat healing signet but this could be it guys! a heal that’s stronger than healing signet.

wait what, a wvw thief complaining about wvw warrior? how cute.

Excalibur.9748:

jmatb.6307:

Thief is gonna be fine. All the doom and gloom predictions are pretty hilarious, considering how heavily people have been leaning on the S/D crutch.

there is literally 0 interest for S/D set anymore amongst thieves., including its founder – jumper the S/D2 acrobat. it’s a dead set if i ever seen one.

Lol, i can’t believe you just say that, just go back to your cave.

Excalibur.9748:

clicking skills is nothing, some warriors click to dodge. that’s the ultimate show of skill right there.

Click to dodge is utlra hard mode, it aquire insane amount of accuracy of aiming.
bet a little noob like you who only knows how to qq and doesnt even know his own class can’t do it

warriors doesn’t have enough evades, that’s why i always use signet stamina on boss fight.
you need to take the small hits and dodge the big ones

gesho.9468:

Lighter.5631:

i think people misunderstood him, hes saying that engi as a class has access to too many things. not as a player how hard or easy it is to play…

it has average access to many abilities, but is surpassed in every aspect by one class or another. every game has such class and every game has an opinion that jack of all trades is good at everything in hands of good player and master of nothing at hands of poor player. imo, this is fair.

what about ele.

i think people misunderstood him, hes saying that engi as a class has access to too many things. not as a player how hard or easy it is to play…

messiah.1908:

but we already got venom leech trait

so they want to push us to be more aggressive while giving us no defense tools

and where you got all of this info

pls link

have to admit, most of the new healing skills are offensive skills, guess they want to push bursting to counter the condi bunker meta now.

ronpierce.2760:

Inc ranger Healing spirit.

BobbyT.7192:

venom heal?

people are so smart!

Deathspike.1870:

Lighter.5631:

please teach me how to get perm fury with meta hammer build

Depends on the ‘meta’ you are referring to. I use FGJ

i stopped here, really cool story bro.

Deathspike.1870:

You’re seriously suggesting you don’t run with at least 30% critical chance in your build?
+ Permanent Fury (20%)
+ Unsuspecting Foe (50%)
I always hit 100% if I run a cheese build with Unsuspecting Foe.

please teach me how to get perm fury with meta hammer build

it only works for stun, so personally after update, i would rather just go 0 0 30 10 30

- – don’t listen to the guy above, you don’t even get 100% crit chance with zerker amulet and lyssa runes, only plus fury. for 2 seconds. if your position didn’t bug because of earth shake you can land 2 aa on your enemy.

Straegen.2938:

warriorjrd.8695:

Theives wear medium armour, try again. Thus making eles the squishiest going by base stats

Hate to take this off topic again but a D/D ele is one of the tankier classes in the game. In solo fights, the D/D ele may be the strongest bunker.

Farther more prove wrong all those BS people have being throwing everywhere about how warrior are op because its heavy armor too much toughness too much hp!.

berserker from fate zero – - lol

sakurals.7143:

My god, the full Grenth armor looks awesome O_O
I hope they release it someday

with each part being 500 gem

Justin ODell.9517:

risenlord.2035:

Upcoming changes to the reward system is an excellent idea. Gold in place of glory another excellent idea. Your implementation of the new system though doesn’t seem right to me.

We haven’t released any details about the new reward system. The rewards going in December 10th are more of a way of rewarding players for the glory they have earned before we retire it.

We have talked about various ways to handle retiring glory, and we’re still open to those discussions.

would be nice if we can trade it for gold or rare skins.

or t6 boxes like with lauren.

i got a ascended box and a spear skin for playing 1 30 daily every day, sometimes with 20 daily. since the update ofc.

MrRuin.9740:

Swagger.1459:

I hate to ruin (pun intended) your day, but you seem out of the loop to what is coming and we are not in cosmetic Kansas anymore.

-all legendary gear will have ascended stats and you will be able to change those stats out of combat.

-you are and will be able to continue to buy all higher stat legendaries on the market.

-the devs are in the process of making it easier to obtain precursors and legendaries, so it will lower the prices on the market and make purchasing bis gear a more attractive option than grinding for them.

-eventually you will see players just buying the best gear when they hit max level. so yes, you will be able to dump huge amounts of real money into this game to instantly have better stats than most players. yes, this is intentional. yes, they want your money. yes, there will be a pay 2 have the highest stats option because it generates profit for anet.

-there will be level increases and higher stat gear introduced in the future so this money making cycle will continue.

Doesn’t ruin my day. Because you’re still wrong. You obviously don’t understand a P2W system and have never played one, because this is truly grasping to label GW2 as P2W for whatever reason or motive.
If you buy a legendary now and I farm ascended…what do you have that I don’t? A flashy skin and a convenience of stat swapping. Thats it. And you cut a little bit of time off the actual aquisition of it. You haven’t paid to win. You have paid for convenience. That legendary isn’t going to outperform anything I can farm in game at a substantially less cost. It isn’t going to turn the tide on any fight or win you anything more.
You don’t understand the concept of a truly cashshop dependant gearing system. You would be right if Legendary offered lets say a 100%+ boost in all stats and dmg over ascended and there was no way to farm an equivalent in game. But it doesn’t. Legendary gives you nothing game changing over anything farmable in game. Its gives you flashiness and convenience. Also known as fluff.
Try playing a P2W game and trying to compete in it, then see how you feel about Anets cashshop.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Not actually true:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Strength_Booster
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Armor_Booster
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Speed_Booster

You can most certainly use the gemstore to gain a 10% armor boost, a 5% damage boost and a 15% run speed boost over other players who don’t use the gem store.

Pay money -> get boosters -> go to WvW -> beat players without boosters -> win

P2W, no semantics needed, just money and crushing your opponents. sPvP does remain free of P2W however.

And this, well I hope you were joking. Cause if you’re reaching this far into trying to label GW2 as P2W, I have no idea what your motives of blindly wanting to label it as such would even be.

your logic is flawed, “what do you have that I don’t? A flashy skin and a convenience of stat swapping”

in other p2w game, "what do you have that I don’t? " higher number, that’s it.

you are confused don’t you, this game is a skin game, people do exactly the same, pay with real money, farm, grind, but for skins instead of stats. tell me how having a super expensive skins in this skin heavy game is different from a super good stat gear in another stats heavy game.

Ecole.2349:

Somehow you’ve confused buying skins.. for winning ? I…can’t even begin to comprehend how you arrived at that conclusion. Unless these skins have some hidden “I win” button that lets you win at everything you do. If “winning” for you is how your character looks, maybe go play some ragnarok online or maple story.

i used to play maplestory, and i say this game is p2w too. just in a different concept instead of stats. i think you are the one whos confused about “winning”

Banjal.7328:

So I can get a full Arah set by just PvPing and never have to step foot in Arah?That is going to make alot of PvE people mad if that is true.

i was thinking about that too, but for arah set you need tpvp rewards which comes from winning tpvp, a match is like 10mins+ you only get like 3 equips from it then you have to salvage it with a chance of getting a tpvp token then you can RNG it in mystic toilet in hope you can get a arah part

it sums up, arah from pvp might not be any easier then arah.

lvis.3824:

@OP , if you want to understand why Anet nerfs this you need to go and play a different profession in sPvP and fight against these kind of warriors.

Then you will understand.

i play thief and ele and i find ranger necro and engis more annoying then a warrior with their aoes condi spamming.

Ethics.4519:

Lighter.5631:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Ethics.4519:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Lighter.5631:

There’s no reason not to do it tbh.

It could cause issues on the already transmuted ones.

How?

It’s an entirely different piece now.

No, it’s not. Old Fractal weapons are still weapons and as such, they need a transmutation crystal to be fused with another weapon’s stat. There are thousands of old Fractal weapons in use these days. If you were to change the item type from Weapon to Skin, it is extremely likely that it will mess up every pre-patch Fractal weapon.
Remember that they don’t just become a new item while transmuted, otherwise things like the Transmutation Splitter would not be possible in their current state..

what, your post doesn’t make any sense.

Are you talking about the old unused ones or the old used ones.

If old used ones, again, it’s an entirely different item now.

If you’re talking about old unused ones, we should be allowed to take them to a merchant and get the new skin version. Exactly the same as they did with soulbound to account gathering tools.

And technically be compensated for gems spent on crystals (just like they did for the tools), but that’s an entirely different story.

yes i’m talking about the old unused untransmuted no-stats ones thats being sitting in my bank forever

just got my 1st precursor today with 2 rare weapons and 2 rare equipments

and its the colossu the hammer one. guess i can finally see a light of me holding one legendary after 1 year.

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Ethics.4519:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Lighter.5631:

There’s no reason not to do it tbh.

It could cause issues on the already transmuted ones.

How?

It’s an entirely different piece now.

No, it’s not. Old Fractal weapons are still weapons and as such, they need a transmutation crystal to be fused with another weapon’s stat. There are thousands of old Fractal weapons in use these days. If you were to change the item type from Weapon to Skin, it is extremely likely that it will mess up every pre-patch Fractal weapon.
Remember that they don’t just become a new item while transmuted, otherwise things like the Transmutation Splitter would not be possible in their current state..

what, your post doesn’t make any sense.

- – thief is rather easy as other classes
ranger is just a no brain pve open world leveler.

this is ridiculous, a hat for 500 gem, and you can’t even dye the face part
lame