Guild Wars 2

GrandHaven.1052:

Derenek.8931:

Go to gwskills.net and look up my flame juggernaut build. He can do over 60k damage in one hit. I once hit a boss for 100k.

That is not one hit……………………………………………..

Flamethrower auto is a continues hit that adds your damage up from the first hit to the last. It only resets if you stop attacking with AA for a second or 2.
If you use it on indestructible golems you can rack it up to the millions, does not mean your damage is that high.

This post hurt my brain!

GrandHaven.1052:

This post hurt my brain!

Not surprising at all.

IF you give up, you lose. If you don’t, you have a chance to do things better. Maybe you won’t win the match, but trying your hardest will often yield the best results over time.

I have a friend that likes the give up when things get sour, but just the other day I played a game where my team was losing and 1 player left. Down to 4v5, and our team turned it around and won the game. Behind 100 points, lose a player, and while the other team got lax, we got focused. Doesn’t happen often, but afking or quitting is poor attitude in group activities.

My father got to see me playing the other day for the first time, I was doing some pvp, and he was shocked how focused I was. I thought it was kind of funny, but if you decide you don’t care about your teammates, you’ve already lost half the battle.

My first set of data is as follows:

Total uses of Elixir X: 14
Tornadoes: 7
Rampage: 7

Hopefully, others can contribute. Even though, I managed to run gw2 at work in the background and only press 0 once every few minutes, I don’t have the patience for more than that. Hopefully others can bring in some data, but it looks fine to me. I actually had tornado in the lead up until the end, where rampage evened out.

This was all done sitting in hotm, without doing or pressing anything other than my elite button, so if there is a bug related to other skills, this methodology would miss it.

Yes, I noticed this right after it was brought up, got 4 tornados in a row in hotm. Following, I logged on a couple days later, and got 2 rampages in a row.

I’m not sure if something is wrong. I think, as boring as it sounds, someone needs to conduct a larger test. Maybe to save time, we could have lots of engineers deliver their data to this thread, add everything up for a larger sample size. I would exclude mine to the count, but maybe when I get home I’ll try and do something like 10 transformations, and return with the results.

Comparing the tempest footage to the reaper footage. It is very very obvious that grouch has no experience with not just reaper, but with necromancer as a whole. I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on this video.

I do enjoy the changes to allow different builds in each game-mode, but it is not the same as templates; which would switch your gear/weapons, traits and utilities, etc.

Karl is a noob with elementalist it seems, watching Grouch, he made it look awesome. Watch the video. It wasn’t OP, but it showed some of the potential of the spec. It seems to have a lot of skill play to it and I think looks to be about a middle ground in terms of cpm (clicks per minute) between offhand dagger and focus. Offers tons of support, and during one play he got quickness, and well, with him passing his buffs along with +2 seconds, it is the elementalist boon bot. Funny enough though, he didn’t bother with a single shout, which is to be expected, but his auto cc cleanse shout was traited, which I guess gave him 1 shout. Either way, looks to bring some slight changes that may have big ramifications.

Thanks for the link. Very cool looking. I’m actually getting excited for the tempest.

Bump

One of the most anticipated features for me.

Yes, this seemed like an important part of what made engineers viable in zergs. Aoe condition cleanse by using 4 →1 with mortar. But it doesn’t work. At least the chill and poison one seem to work. Please get this projectile finisher, and all projectile finishers not require an enemy target to work, since one like this is for cleansing conditions off ALLIES. Allow us to do something that was intended with the kit.

Solid Gold.9310:

I hope there’s no jumping puzzles (I hate them), but I’m guessing there will be a few.

That is a little strange to say. Can you really hate them so much you don’t want other players to be able to participate in activities they enjoy, in this instance, jumping puzzles? I mean, I hate mushrooms, but I don’t want people to stop cooking with them, I just don’t want to eat them. If what you mean is that you hate the small semi"jumping puzzles" that lead to some vista or poi, I can understand; however a real jumping puzzle has no impact on other players who do not participate in them.

I’d like to mention that jumping puzzles are a big part of why I bought this game originally. (I couldn’t stand not jumping in gw1) I love them, and hope they have quite a few hidden around the new areas.

Xillllix.3485:

Guardian video, Svanir duel, at 31:18
https://youtu.be/Ypl3N-lQsNg?t=31m18s

Elementalist video, Svanir Duel, at 39:55
https://youtu.be/sIQNnE6LyX4?t=39m55s

I mean seriously.

LOL that does make the Tempest look weak. But its a spec all around support, whereas the Dragonhunter is a solo spec.

Prisoner.2419:

A test with 30 samples gave coefficients of 0.635 (fire) and 0.823 (air). Previous coefficients were 0.85 and 1.1, so these are very close to a 25% damage reduction. I suspect the true values are probably 0.6375 and 0.825 for the exact 25% reduction.

Thanks for conducted this test. My engineer will have to re-explore his sigils. I believe this pushes 5% damage ahead in sustain for pvp. Although, I always found that sigil boring. I did notice my sd engineer was having more trouble bursting Mesmers yesterday.. I hope I can find a way to make zerker engineer work.

I really like the ability, and I don’t think it needs a buff. I trait my mortar kit in my build, and the double orbital strike when you pull it off feels nice. Maybe boost its damage if anything, but I like the slow tell and big hits. You have to set it up usually with an immobilize or knockback, but its nice.

Should probably hit as hard as elementalist pheonix to feel good (when you trait for double effect). Overall though, its a fun ability that usually helps me control mid fights a bit more.

I never like pistol, but I’ll light a candle anyway. Good night coated bullets, maybe one day engineers will once again build explosives that can smash through their enemies before exploding.

Solo roaming is not dead. I find both classes enjoyable, currently elementalist has more that it can offer that is desired. However, the engineer is not a bad class, but it is less versatile in combat, and more versatile out of combat. (easier to switch roles)

I’d say an engineer is almost like a hybrid ele/ranger without the pet. Lots of planning goes into your builds, and you have to specialize and really think about how to round off your build. With the ele, you always have access to tons, but you won’t be able to stray from that 1-2 builds.

I’ll prelude by saying I only read the thread tittle, but this has been discussed so much in the past.

Here is what score tells you in a pvp match.

How often you were involved in team fights or how many objectives you secured. It does not take many important factors into consideration in a game, but it at least is a useful tool to know how you did when playing a roaming build.

Engineer right now could use some small buffs, but I think most of their problems come from two things. (outside of overtuned mes/ele)

1) Engineer is still full of bugs since the update. (bomb radius, projectile finisher not cleansing without an enemy (mortar), weird skill queue with static discharge, pistol 1 not an explosive, automatic bomb dispenser is not currently dropping the intended bomb, just a blind that ticks twice, etc.)

2) There is still a lot of work to bring engineer traits up to speed. Previously, engineer was one of the most versatile classes, which means their traits and utilities had a lot of variability. They were one of they few successful professions with the old trait system. However, by decreasing choice, and removing a lot of options that existed previously, we have been weakened in many ways. A lot of options that existed previously, are gone. (pistol range, healing bombs, swiftness on kit without an added ability, old gadgeteer, turret damage, no F5 for racial elites, etc.)

We have a profession that is still months away from being ready for the recent changes. A lot of work has to be done to complete the update with the engineer. Bug fixes, trait adjustments, and inclusions of old traits.

I think the profession is still fun, and even viable for most things, but it feels incomplete with the recent update. It is too bad a lot of these bugs will take so long to tackle, and the adjustments I mentioned would require a similar level of dedication as when we got the trait revamp, which is unlikely.

Ya Mantras would be cool.

I’d like it to be considered build time, instead of channeling a mantra.

This would mean that you would be stationary when you build your bot, but to compensate, the charge time is much shorter.

So instead of chanelling for ~3 seconds with full movement, you’d end up constructing for 1 – 1.5 seconds, but be held in place. It seems counter initiative, but the drones could maybe last for more charges, but also get destroyed when you go downed. (Except the one drone that sacrifices itself to prevent you from going downed)

We’ll a couple complaints and jokes later and things have really degraded in this discussion. My initial comment, as pointed out by other players was a pun based on the ability name, and the previous complaint listed by the player previously. I hope I don’t upset the Dev’s with such non-sense, but if they are placed in a position of discussion with players, I’m sure they’ve seen worse than a bad pun.

On Topic:
I am really enjoying the new rifle range, and even though I’ve never been the biggest fan of pistols, I can see how some players want the added range and piercing. It won’t make engineer overpowered, and would allow some players to play builds that make good use of these attributes, hence increasing build diversity.

I agree with this, they should try and avoid exceptions with the new traits and player skills. “Drop a smoke bomb” should drop a smoke bomb and benefit from all traits relevant to our smoke bomb (bomb 4).

I found this disappointing as well, but I doubt it will ever get added. I would love to see it, but we’ll have to wait until after HoT at least. All those racial elites that were ocasionally useful are now always useless. What can you do.

Celestial could work, but thieves have tons of active defense. They also happen to lack almost any passive defense (or it just sucks). So boosting your toughness and healing power at the expense of other stats hurts more than other professions. Also, very few theif weapons make good use of both condition and power damage. It is doable, and could even be viable for roaming and pve, but you’d have to put some energy into planning. I don’t have enough experience with thief since the update, but it used to be possible with p/d, d/d and shortbow. (if you go celestial, I suggest you have either your gear or trinkets more specialized. This way you will excel a little more at either power or condition damage.)

Good luck.

I logged in, and my kitten attacked me.

Turns out he was enjoying sleeping on my computer.

You are just jealous of classes like the ranger who do optimal damage by sticking to their longbow from a distance and cycling through all their skills, including point blank shot.

Oh Wait… Nvm, listen to this Templar, he seems to be on to something.

Awesome item. Wish I had known about this years ago. Use this item with a teleport to friend and now try and find your way back with your friend.

Arena Net Programming Team:

Gary: How do I adjust this mesh so that it doesn’t make the legs disappear?
Kole: Just drag the object upwards.
Gary: Like this?
Kole: Ya, looks good, you can see the thighs now. No need to spend any more time looking at the image.
Gary: By dragging the object upwards, it looks like the feet went missing…
Kole: I said NO NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME! Send the updated models out. NOW!
Gary: Yes Sir. Wow, what an honor to work here.

Edit: All characters in this are fictional, and hopefully not based on real life.

Where is the main character Heal-O-Tron? I’m not even kidding XD. Would’ve loved a cameo.

Thank you though for getting this in the game. Even though my girlfriend doesn’t care much about the story, she still is trying to finish it. We have almost finished the personal story together, and this came at a perfect time. I got to play during season 1, but I didn’t pay much attention as I was new to the game and busy exploring other elements of the game. (same reason I’ve never tried SAB, my favorite thing in this game are the jumping puzzles, so you can imagine how sab this makes me)

It was definitely a condition thief. A while ago, I used to do timed condition burst with thieves guild and venoms. That build can kill anyone who doesn’t cleanse or heal in a few seconds. It is probably even stronger now, but it was a very one trick pony build.

Warrior is still viable. Rampage has been nerfed in uptime only. Good use of the skill will still yield excellent results. The rest of the kit is unchanged. A good warrior is still a pain to fight on a point for most classes.

Agreed. D/D ele is feeling weak. (when playing without an amulet) I’d also like to see engineer bombs nerfed. You can barely stand on a point with all the aoe going around. Now I don’t want to point any fingers, but I blame the engineers.

Also, please give mesmers and thieves perma stealth when ooc. These classes are balanced around killing everyone, so they should be able to engage on their whim when they can best achieve that goal.

Oh, and can we please get a colony on the moon soon. That was being discussed years ago, still no results. Come on A-Net.

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LucasCorso.3651:

Good news – Arena increased rifle range – i hope this is beginning …

I doubt it. The best we could do is to compile a list of all engineer bugs and items missed with the recent trait changes. Then when the developers google gw2 balance to make their changes, they might find our thread, and make some good changes. Otherwise, they might google engineer balance and find an old thread about turrets, and nerf them further.

I don’t know about you guys, but Svanir is one bad kitten. I’ve only even seen hackers beat him 1v1. Tempest is fine, play it like you should, 5v1 Svanir down with support. Those boss monsters are too Stronk to fight solo.

ps: I’ve heard rumors that some people can hack well enough to solo the lord… FIX NAW.

Surprise Shot: Surprise, no extra range.

+1 for bringing courtyard into its own queue. Giving more options is always better in these situations. A player can queue for all 3 modes if he wants (stronghold, conquest, deathmatch) to speed up their queue times, or queue for the mode they want to play in and encounter players on both teams who are happy to play their desired mode. So more fun for everyone with a simple change.

Please!

Funny enough, I started to look at turret as abilities rather than turrets. Just like the healing turret, which is used, overcharged and either blown or picked up.

Flame Turret: Smoke field, fire field and blast finisher.
Rifle Turret: surprise shot is good for some builds, it gives fury for 5 seconds with trait, blast finisher
Thumper Turret: Knockback (delay), blasts!! (3 I believe, but I haven’t tested since the update)
Net Turret: Crazy amounts of immobilize. And an on demand stun, and blast finisher.

I won’t go over healing turret, but with a water field and all the blast finishers engineers have, its easy to make good use of water fields.

The turrets can no longer be placed and serve much purpose. But, they are still just as good as additions to builds to getting access to specific utilities.

I will miss what turrets were. But, A-Net hates AI builds, so I pray to the 6 that our elite spec doesn’t get minions.

Dueling would be great, but I think for rp purposes, the downstate would have to be removed from dueling. Once a player goes down, he gets back up and the duel ends. The player who won the duel can now help rez his friend in a kind of gesture of helping someone up once you beat them.

Chicho Gosho.6507:

I think the biggest reason for people leaving is being locked in the mist.

I have to agree with this. I don’t mind terribly sitting in the mists for a couple minutes (3-15), but any friends I’ve tried to get into this game can’t stand it. It seems terribly lame. Allow people to continue to play the game during queue. (especially those who think playing for an hour is long; to them, 15 minutes is a giant waste of time)

On topic,
I think that the balance is not terrible, except for some slight reduction in condition damage overall (~5%), and another 10% reduction in burning damage. Then Mesmers need to be toned down some. I think a slight decrease in stealth uptime, a decent decrease in burst (~20%), and maybe a slight tweak to how their stun mantra behaves with traits. I’m not super familiar with mesmer since the changes, but I fight them pretty fairly myself. I do find that it is sad to watch my teamates get destroyed in less than a second. While Mesmer’s don’t feel like they are overly overpowered, their style of damage pushes newer players out of the game. So lower their burst by a decent amount and try and give them some better sustain. (without stealth) Conditions feel a little too strong, another way to help with this is improve players self-condition cleansing. Just add some condition cleanse to underused skills.

I see two possibilities:

1) Our Elite Spec give us weapon swap. If this is the case, all engineers will have a ranged weapon. Luring someone in with ranged, laying down some traps and crushing them would be a different play style.

2) We get some other mechanic, and are given either signets or mantras. It might even be minions. Regardless, it will offer some passive power/defense, with burst abilities.

I’m not sure which concept I prefer. However, I’m more inclined to believe that the flying bots were not part of the hammer skill set. So I’m more inclined to believe that number 2 is what is coming. Also engineer weapons don’t go well together. So it would be hard to make p/p & rifle work, etc. So weapon swap wouldn’t work well on this class.

If the baseline range doesn’t get changed. They should at least increase the range of jump shot. That ability feels very different with the additional range. (so did the auto-attack though)

I’d like to see weapon swap available for elementalists when out of combat and on a 1 minute cooldown. Otherwise, it’s easy to change weapons, but the convenience of swapping by a button press once per minute if you can drop combat is very nice.

Hotjoin is really bad these days. But it is the training wheels for real pvp. I wouldn’t expect any achievements for practicing a lot, but rather for showing the culmination of your training.

I really like the new meta. It’s not my favorite. I preferred the meta right before it (cele meta). But I have a blast in pvp, but a few things need some adjustments. And before HoT since its taking too long. It is a little frustrating knowing that any changes they make will be rendered obsolete once HoT launches. Still, I have fun on my warrior, and elementalist. Thief is same old for the most part.

The biggest problem I have with the meta, is the abundance of mesmers. I don’t think they are super OP, but I hate fighting more than one mesmer at a time. Fighting 3 just makes me want to leave the point. Their mechanic, to produce copies of themselves becomes ridiculous when you have multiple mesmers that have made their characters look alike. I just would rather do somethign else than wack-a-mole. Luckily, 2-3 mesmers on a team is not that great, so eventually the trend will diminish. Also, once the balance changes come in, I’m sure we’ll see less mesmers.

I like fighting them 1v1 or 2v2 (1 enemy mes). Again, they don’t feel super OP, just frustrating. A few small nerfs (PU) would decrease the quantity, but not change the quality of mesmers.

Otherwise, no class feels impossible to beat, and due to the more rapid nature of fights, it often comes down to skill more than anything, which I enjoy.

Edit: Decrease burning damage by about 20%-40%.

Sad to see this move to the necromancer forums, as it is more a showcase of horrible and funny warrior gameplay than anything interesting in necro play. Moderators need a sense of humor.

This video is a mockery of warriors that play like pve npcs. Possibly players that were used in coding for Ranger Pets. In fact, you need to make another dueling video with a ranger who has his pet on passive and is using these warriors as pets instead. Make it a comparison for if the wolf pet or warrior pet is more effective. Would be too lols.

On my open world build, I always have it slotted.

lol, nice video. I really like the double jump, still wondering about it.. XD The warrior at the beginning was so bad. Funny none the less.

Hi there,

There will probably be a balance pass within a few months. If you are fine with the possibility that the balance pass will drastically nerf your character, then feel free to try some of the OP builds of certain classes. Almost no class (Mes) has gotten outright stronger, it is just that traits have been much improved, so a lot of synergy exists that is skyrocketing damage. So the classes that have builds that are strongest to weakest in the current “meta” are as follow: (in my opinion)

-Mes (actually a few builds are quite strong, so when the nerf hits it will probably affect many builds)
-Ele (mostly same old here, it is a fun classes that has great sustain with a celestial amulet)
-Warrior (Build is not OP, but it has great trait synergy, and rampage can drop someone who is caught with their pants down. It is great to seal the deal on fights, but when this is nerfed, the build could get further nerfs making warrior suck XD)
-Guard (Burning and bunker builds are both solid, guard may get its condi builds almost removed, if anet nerfs them on top of nerfing burning as a whole)
-Necro (Necromancer are a weird class, they can be pretty good at 1v1, and I’d say are the masters of hard counter. Their builds often either dominate another, or get destroyed by it. I knew my shout warrior has condi necro 1v1 for getting me to forget to scream, and drop shouts for the time being)
-Engineer/Thief (Niche currently, can be effective, but not like they used to be.
-Ranger (Has some solid roaming builds, but sucks pretty hard in pvp)

This was all in accordance with pvp and wvw. I think with things changing soon, it would be better to play around with a class you are interested in. A-Net is often heavy with nerfs, but it is not guaranteed.

Honestly, if you want to avoid frustration, you can probably avoid the thief, ranger, and engineer for the time being. The Necro only play if you like imbalanced matchups. Otherwise all classes have solid builds that allow them to feel competitive and fun.

I’m having a lot of success with a zerker stance build in pvp. Feels a bit like playing a ninja, as it all comes down to poping your skills at the right times for great effect, or no effect.

When I get home I’ll link the build, but there is a build very similar on meta battle, except instead of hammer I use rifle, which lets me win almost any 1v1, by kiting.

In WvW, I’m actually having the most success with a gs sw/sh build. Can handle quite a bit, and run when it cant. It has way more damage than the old weapon set, and I just soled a mes without taking almost any damage on this build. (Just after poping all my cooldowns on a camp) But it comes down to twitch play like a lot of gw2, so the build doesn’t give you the cookie.

Edit: Here is my pvp build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJARUnUJClhgVhAehAkighigCX9WIFsB4BCAtLi+oA-TZBFwACuAAJOEAt2foaZAAPBAA

The wvw build is a little different (2.6k armor, 20k hp) and I also used sw/sh over rifle for roaming, as the disengages really help. I also try to make great use of the mobility in combat for positioning. Surprise someone with quickness, but before they escape hit them with a quick finishing strike. You have two moves in his set that hit like trucks when the enemy falls below 50%. Once you get someone low, you should start to pull ahead. Try and play mind games with defiant stance, you deal bonus damage during (might), so go full offense and look like you have just thrown caution to the wind. Also, never pop it when you get too low, you;ll end up triggering endure pain, and take no damage, so heal for nothing. Good luck, warrior is lots of fun, and very offensive focused with these builds. It is all about pressuring your oponents to make mistakes. Better players become much harder than most fodder you’ll fight.

edit2: here is my wvw build

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR8ejMdQZIWFCehApIGICK8EehRwCgIYA0vY6nCA-TlSDwAs2fAmKIUVKc4JA8UZWClgVVS8S9DQ6GAYCCA-w

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Funny enough, I actually think ranger is more fun to play with the 23/06 update. I’m almost….almost tempted to play it over my ele/war. Which have both been super fun since the update.

I hope they fix this soon. The spring should heal you if you are damaged or have conditions on you. Yes, even if you get that way while standing on top of it. Good luck rangers.