Guild Wars 2

Just from personal experience here (take some salt grains here), but I’ve seen some Guardians that main a scepter that could embarrass anyone using any other weapon.

It’s a good build. It should serve you well. I see a lot of Zerker gear in there so you just need to be really good at dodging.

A mix between #2 and #6. And sometimes #1.

Wow, that was a terrible suggestion Daecollo.

How about changing the Wrath signet to a boon signet? Either maybe a flat % bonus to all boons on the guardian in general or a bonus to duration. Active could be boon rip.

Yeah, there will be a trickling effect from these ppl, but it still shouldn’t be a huge ecto supply increase.

marnick.4305:

ThePedroKid.2580:

I have personally known three people in game, through a guild I was in at the time, who have been banned or ‘temporarily banned’ for, and I quote, “Market Manipulation”.

These players were all legit. They all earned their gold through luck/farming/TP legit, or, through large gem purchases (one of them blew a very significant amount on buying gems to sell is my understanding). Regardless, they came into significant amounts of gold allowing them to buy large quantities of items on the TP.

In the case of the ‘high roller’, he did it explicitly out of frustration with mat pricing. So, he bought enough gold, legitimately through the gem store, to buy every single one of a certain item on the TP and jack up the price five fold.

Again, all in game interaction through legitimate means, yet, banned for “Market Manipulation”.

So, please, explain to everyone here how you can advise this individual that it’s okay when, in fact, it appears not to be.

Thank you.

Furthermore, screenshots or it didn’t happen. I don’t judge by forum hearsay.

This ^

What build do you run CR?

Puandro.3245:

Xsorus.2507:

Sube Dai.8496:

Puandro.3245:

If the guardian is giving you problems with your build its prob because they are tanky and their onky weakness is condis. If your trap spec you can win otherwise its impossible if they are any good.

Well that’s what I was starting to think. So a good guard can be almost impossible to kill?

If you’re condition based, either Trap or BM Bunker, you’ll eat them alive.

Power Based, its going to be almost impossible

What this bro said.

Not sure about the BM Bunker though (however, I’m newbish to the build so I maybe wrong there). If the Guardian is smart, he’ll take out your pet and there went half your damage.

However, as people have stated, your two best weapons against a bunker Guardian is conditions and poison. Even then, a lot of Guardians will run with condition removal. Luckily for you though, a lot of those go on CD.

I main a Guardian btw. I have about 3 condition removals available to me. Two of them are on demand, which one removes 3 conditions at once, and one that is a passive timer based.

Kharel Arhew.1437:

Agreed with Danson—Giver’s armor provides absolutely horrible boon duration per stat point compared to other options. 6% boon duration does very little productive for you. I’d prefer a boon duration food and PVT armor, if it came to that.

I wish they’d come out with a boon duration food that doesn’t have the magic find boost and something else in the stats instead.

Vol.5241:

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

I paid 32g for one of the F&F dyes before the event ended. It currently sits at 44g.

Now the problem I personally have: I want to use it for myself, but dang what a profit loss if I do!

You can always make money through other methods, so I’d use it.

B-b-b-b-ut… that’s a lot of money to burn!!

I’m also not as good at generating money like you :*(

I bought a few boosts back when gem/gold ratio was a LOT lower. Probably will never buy any of those again.

In addition, I’ve bought the total makeover kit twice now and will probably buy it a third time.

I paid 32g for one of the F&F dyes before the event ended. It currently sits at 44g.

Now the problem I personally have: I want to use it for myself, but dang what a profit loss if I do!

Obtena.7952:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Obtena.7952:

It is meant to be hard to get.

Hard to get = rare. Thanks for agreeing with me!

That’s not agreeing with you. Yes, it’s meant to be hard to get; that’s clear from the stuff you need to make it. No, it’s not meant to be rare; it’s an goal open to every player in the game. Clearly, Anet make the methods to get the mats available to everyone to create it. It’s presence in the game is only limited by people’s willingness to make one. If everyone wanted it, then there is no reason that everyone can’t eventually get it on equal grounds.

I don’t believe there needs to be a mechanic ingame to increase the difficulty of getting one. The premise that one is needed to make current owners feel ‘special’ and maintain it’s rarity is rather stupid.

+1

He’s just entitled to troll his selfishness on everyone.

darkace.8925:

The moment a darker Legendary staff is added every Necromancer who busted his or her butt to get Bifrost is going to want to follow in Malchor’s footsteps.

I dunno about you, but I don’t see many necros with Bifrost, at least on my server.

Puandro.3245:

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Puandro.3245:

If your pet is producing the heal then the heal will be increased unless its bugged like carnivorous appetite.

So that means the ranger produced heals and regen buffs don’t utilize Compassion Training.

Exactly that.

Wow, that just stinks!

Smooth Penguin.5294:

I don’t understand how playing for hours on end to farm T6 mats is considered “easy mode”. Asking for free Precursors and more T6 drops seems to fit the description better.

O.O

It’s still unfathomable at how you can’t understand the irony in what you’re asking for.

/foreheadslap

Puandro.3245:

If your pet is producing the heal then the heal will be increased unless its bugged like carnivorous appetite.

So that means the ranger produced heals and regen buffs don’t utilize Compassion Training.

Not really news, but thanks for the info nonetheless.

Nice name btw

Astral Projections.7320:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Obtena.7952:

It is meant to be hard to get.

Hard to get = rare. Thanks for agreeing with me!

He didn’t agree with you. He said that they were rare and meant to be so. Not that they should become rarer, so that people who already have a Legendary and who want to be special snowflakes can be selfish and ask to exclude others from game rewards.

Troll thread from a troll.

But Smooth Penguin is entitled to have his weapon that was gotten on “easy mode” to feel special and rare!

Seriously OP, if you want to even be considered less of a troll for this crappy proposal, delete your Legendary.

I’m going to assume this works for the pet with the ranger heals (F6) though and any regen buff the pet recieves?

Some pretty interesting stats for your server Weindrasi.

I think I know why a lot of people are choosing the skinny build. It’s because of clipping. The clipping isn’t so bad on them whereas it’s pretty bad on anything heavier/muscluar looking. Personally, I don’t think it’s a big deal, but that’s me. /shrug

Amins.3710:

Clearly we need our signets to increase boon duration /grin

Actually, I’m all for that.

I still don’t understand why people are giving/arguing about builds with a concentration on right hand. The OP wanted a GS build…..

Working or not, #2 and #5 both look ineffecient in combat momentum. Actually, the #4 is the only one that doesn’t look terribad. When used correctly, spin movement works quite effectively, and it still looks good. Charr Guardian spin movement doesn’t on either front.

LeX.8607:

That pic is before f&f content, so its most likely a midnight fire or a midnight gold dye..

By george, I think you’re right.

Ermm…… that would be 2 sets, unless you mean the types of armor, which in that case would be 6 sets of armor (2 x Light, Medium, Heavy).

LameFox.6349:

Maybe one of the F+F ones, or a ‘midnight -’ dye. The midnight ones can look pretty weird on shinier metallic armours.

I’d say thats one of the F&F dye. Fire side in particular. The “midnight” stuff does have that shiny look, but its’ still not with that much sharpness.

If the dye has that similiar look to Juggernaut quicksilver effect, then it’s the F&F dye, and that picture looks like it.

Best advice I can give you is to go into an overflow server (LA) and check out all the charr you see. BUT, pay close attention to their horns. That’s the biggest variability you’re gonna see. If you want uniqueness, go for horns and length of them that aren’t often chosen. For example, I saw one charr that chose the horns that look cut off and then he had them at the shortest length possible. I’ve never seen another individual like that since.

Pick a fur color and pattern that’s not common. No whites, no blacks. As far as the armor goes, your tail will at least show it and some armors show some of your fur.

Hair color will also make a difference. I’ve seen someone recently with an almost neon blue color. Unfortunately, I think that comes with the 350 gem character redo item of the BLT, but that was very unusual.

Next I would’ve suggested going the short, skinny build, but I’ve seen a bunch of those lately so just go with what you like there.

That’s all I can think of off the top of my head.

I believe off hand sigils work on the main hand weapon.

I run a male Charr guardian and rather like my staff animations. Now, GS on a male charr on the other hand…. UGH! Don’t get me started on that. >:(

Boomslang.4352:

Diak Atoli.2085:

Signet of the Wild + Quickening Zephyr, anyone?

This.

For PvE, I’m not sure if there’s a ranger burst that can compare to a trait-ed SoW+QZ on a shortbow ranger with zerk stuff on. I actually run this most of the time along with the piercing arrows trait and a fire sigil.

It’s like a Ranger on drugs with AoE.

For WvWvW, I just change the zerk stuff to cleric’s+knight’s and get a good enough crit chance (around 45%). Target the guy at the back of the zerg and make sure your arrows hit as many guys as possible. Watch how a group who tries to flank will back away from a small asura ranger.

What about SoW +Sic ‘Em + QZ + Rampage as One? Add in a Hilt Bash if you run GS. That’s a nice burst, no?

I think its more of a “if I’m going to lose this fight, I can quickly escape if I want to.” Guardians have been complaining about how a lot of the classes can just escape the fight if they want while Guardians are left in the dust watching them flee. A thief can commit to the fight and then leave if needed. Guardians don’t have this luxury. We have to commit or not commit. Win the fight or die.

For your first paragraph, that makes me think the new boon steal is even more OP than it should be, especially if its as easy as you make it sound.

Yep, I agree completely. I made a simliar post about it titled “Graceless Combat Moves”. I don’t understand why nearly all the other races get some nice looking combat moves with their guardians but charr gets clunky, awkward ones. Even #2 and #5 moves look bad!

Danicco.3568:

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

I’m trying not to be sarcastic about this, but the guy asks for a Max DPS GS build and you two give him a Right Hand build instead? Why?

I was just “fixing” the build posted.

Also, this might come in handy in the future when the OP notices the risk of playing a glass cannon in melee are not worth it, and maybe switch to the overpowered (but boring) Scepter DpS builds.

Ah, well that is a good point.

Danicco.3568:

Blazin Blunt.6908:

This is the maximum DPS build there is to find;
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.0|b.1g.h2.d.1g.h1|1.1g.h2|1g.71j.1g.71j.1g.71j.1g.71j.1g.71j.1g.71j|2s.d19.2s.d19.3s.d19.2s.d19.3s.d19.2s.d19|f2.u00b.0.p00.0|0.0|0.0.0.0.0|e

Good luck with that

Fixed for you: http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.0|b.1g.h2.d.1g.h1|1.1g.h2|1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e|2s.d19.2s.d19.3s.d19.2s.d19.3s.d19.2s.d19|k29.u00b.0.a2.a1|0.0|0.0.0.0.0|e

It’s not GS though, but it’s probably one of the top if not the top DpS in the game (even the dev said Scepter is so).

I’m trying not to be sarcastic about this, but the guy asks for a Max DPS GS build and you two give him a Right Hand build instead? Why?

I don’t want to see 100 poo. I see enough of that when I flush the toilet already.

And jeter? Is that what the kid’s are calling it nowadays?

I use them to boost my pet’s damage, but I also run BM and am a newb…. so take that with salt grains.

ocgreg.3910:

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

VidGhost.3215:

You can buy Karma Armor from the temples for 42k Karma each and toss them in the forge..

Used to be able to salvage them for the runes and ecto’s but NOT anymore! Anet fixed that… but Mystic forging them still works fine.. 168k Karma for a chance at a exotic armor worth 2-5 Gold inst an issue for Anet. Probably better off with Orien boxes

If what Ryuujin had posted is true, wouldn’t this be considered and exploit?

The armor that VidGhost and Ryuujin are talking about are two different things. WvW karma armor and temple karma armor are apparently treated differently. If it was considered an exploit then Anet would have fixed them all at the same time IMO.

Unless its something they just overlooked. I’ve seen it done before in other games. I’d just hate to be banned for doing this if it was considered exploitive.

It’d be nice to get an offical answer on that and the rest of this thread, but you know how that goes.

RashanDale.3609:

Orkfaeller.7931:

GrizzlyTank.3145:

RashanDale.3609:

Automaton.4926:

Thats the Flame Legion’s flamethrower.

eehh… no? it’s not.

Necro btw <.<

But yes that is the flame legion flamethrower. Notice the small spikes that come from the shoulders, usually a result of whatever dark magics and self mutilation the flame legion are using.

Pretty much all the Charr on the (earlier) Artworks have spikes,

propably just a design-relic from the GW1 days
http://huntersinsight.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/charrgunner1.jpg

This. And furthermore, the thing in the artwork actually looks like a normal flamethrower. Not like the flamethrower-mutation of flame-legion-dudes.

So even if this type of flamethrower was used by the flame legion, since it’s rather a normal flamethrower than a mutation, lorewise there’s no real reason against that skin.
(We already have Flame Legion (CoF)-Armour too)

edit: and what does that have to do with necro?

I dunno, that artwork looks very flame legion-ish. The holding case for the “fuel” even looks flame legion with that open look. The fuel isn’t even fuel either, its more of a bunch of contained fire, thus giving it a magical nature, ie flame legion fire magic.

He meant a necropost with the necro comment. In other words, this thread was old (being two months stale) without a post and has been resurrected again, ala “necro”.

Type in /cry and watch the charr sob like a baby!

VidGhost.3215:

You can buy Karma Armor from the temples for 42k Karma each and toss them in the forge..

Used to be able to salvage them for the runes and ecto’s but NOT anymore! Anet fixed that… but Mystic forging them still works fine.. 168k Karma for a chance at a exotic armor worth 2-5 Gold inst an issue for Anet. Probably better off with Orien boxes

If what Ryuujin had posted is true, wouldn’t this be considered an exploit?

Almost looks like a lion mane in that picture. I didn’t pay much attention to that guy, maybe I need to take a closer look again.

Sil.4560:

As far as being condescending, I just plain don’t like the class at this point.

And this goes back to my question. Why then do you exactly post in the Guardian thread? You aren’t really contributing anything to the forum.

I don’t particularly like boon stripping on any class, but I definately want a pet Skale!!!

Teamkiller.4315:

I trust you’ve seen our 200% boon duration build that offers permanent retaliation and almost permanent uptime on almost all other boons in the game?

Erm, how is 200% boon duration pulled off? Or did you mean 100%?

@Sil, as an apparent Warrior advocate, why exactly do you post in the Guardian forums? Also, a lot of your comments are condescending as well. Dish it out but can’t take it much?

Well that’s true in all senses. I just can’t get behind nerfs though to my favorite class

Yeah, saw that Scepter is about to get a boost. I have a very bad feeling we’re gonna pay for it though. And if that pans out to be true, I’d rather have my failed Scepter AA.

Bakitten291:

Potentially coming back after a break, This has to be some of the best news I have read so far for changes. I always warned Christos they were going to nerf it :P

So you appreciate an even more build restrictive class since Christos’ build depended on retal? I suppose you felt the same way when you build was nerfed with the Vigor change as well?

“_125/500(5) Limited Time 7 Days left_
Flame Dye Kit

125/500(5) Gems Limited Time 7 Days Left
Frost Dye Kit "

Great, that means their TP prices are going to skyrocket. So much for getting that blue color I wanted.

Bakitten291:

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Shelter when running into the zerg block.

Signet for everything else.

I do have to argue that a well time shelter during a multi hit burst skill will completely change a 1v1/1v2 fight when you have at least 25 points in valor. Blocking a full WW from a guardian would often change the fight alone due to the might stacks you get from it. (assuming around 10 hits, its 350 added power and condition damage, which adds another 87.5 damage per tick to burning. for 15 seconds ) Its also great popping it during a 100b.

Oh yeah, I completely agree. I probably should have stated in my earlier post that is what I prefer.

I used to run with strictly Shelter on everything, but I like Signet better for my current build for the condition removal and for the higher burst heal.

Vennyhedgie.5369:

They already have a trait to increase damage based on how many boons they have. But having like a gandmaster trait to share all your boons would be pretty awesome

Not all boons are offensive oriented. Also, Power of the Virtuous has nothing to do with increasing the potency of boons, just your dps. Also, that trait isn’t that great to begin with. It isn’t worth specing into 25 Virtues just for that.

Awesome or not, sharing that many is still overpowered.

@Kami

Save Yourselves! is intended as a defensive spell.

And you’re getting this info from….?