120 radius. 1 2 0 and you have problems with the knockback? Come on
ok. I bet you already knows it: To win this matchup you have to clear condis and to pressure the thief. The thief wins over time vs you because you can’t remove all the condis.
If you have EG + Backback Regenerator you have a lot of more time to deal with the thief and you have better condi removal. If you play your own build that’s ok. But maybe this thiefs are the counter for your build. Maybe the sigil of generosity is the answer. In this case you can put the stack of bleeding back to them
Wow. Thanks for posting this. Was very intresting
I am P/P with Grenades/Tool Kit/Elixir S. I run mostly Rabid with some Dire.
I probably could have done better at avoiding his CnD attempts, but I was so worried about long row of conditions on me. I felt like a Necro had just used their Signet of Spite on me and then some.
you play HGH with 1 Elixir? Or do you use Elixir H? Conditions are our weakness. Go full HGH or remove Elixir and HGH by EG and move useful traits
engineer is totally useless in this meta. Can’t team fight, gets destroyed by condi warrior, have to play perfect to survive a hambow or a mesmer in 1v1, gets destroyed by necro 1v1 , really hard to beat eles also, only easy matchup is 1v1 vs thiefs but in 2v2s gets destroyed by thiefs lol.
Yes, condi classes eat engis souls.
@discussion:
ostricheggs tells the truth. Trust him.
What is the rest of your build? p/p for condis or rifle for power? Grenades or Tool kit?
Check the map. If you see the opponents on close and mid so that far is free. Move over to far. Cap (or just decap ) it and move back where the action is.
Force the opponent team to lose their homepoint or to be outnumbered in team fights because they can not move as fast as you can.. A good thief is pain in the kitten of your opponents.
I think a big problem for GW2 is that twich has problems with streams set to source and most GW2 streams (ostricheggs, sizer, xerrex, cc, GF …) are set to source instead of high/medium/low. So you can’t watch GW2 streams from many mobil phones or tabs.
I watched a lot of GW2 streams before twitch got the problems with such streams
I checked it yesterday. If you play Sigil of Purity the turrents remove a condition from you. I tested it vs the NPCs so I am not 100% sure but I guess I am right
Could you explain to a non thief how going into stealth is bad and kills you?
I am rank 322 at the moment and I played yesterday (I was around rank 400) 3 games at EU prime time (9 p.m.). In 2 of this games the matchmaking system gave me the possibility to play with or against Sizer. Sizer is rank 2.
Maybe the player pool is very small. Maybe the system has a problem.
haha had this too yesterday and i was on 97%
one match i even had Collero and Forsaker in Enemy team and noone in my team was ranked and one guy was even 40%
this matchmaking is not fun it even is ANTIfun and make me hating this game more and more
oh and /skyhammer
It is really annoying if you see you play against very good people and you have to play with obvious bad people. Same days ago we had a match against Terron and in our team a mesmer joined with standard gear and he asked us if someone knows a good build for a mesmer. Then he told us this is his 3rd pvp match ever. He died 3 times in a row and left the match.
Terron is top 10 in EU and we had someone like this. That’s no fun. Before the feature patch I had a lot of very good games. But after this patch many games are like 500 : 2xx
I am rank 322 at the moment and I played yesterday (I was around rank 400) 3 games at EU prime time (9 p.m.). In 2 of this games the matchmaking system gave me the possibility to play with or against Sizer. Sizer is rank 2.
Maybe the player pool is very small. Maybe the system has a problem.
I’d say evic damage needs a nerf but after playing thief and engy for a couple months I feel really squishy on my warrior due to lack of mobility, evades, healing, prot and stealth.
Engies can heal for ~1000 health per second using the current celestial build math for non believers:
184 regen tick + 139 kit regen + (5474 turret heal + 4200 blast heal + 3344 elixer gun)/20 seconds = 184 + 139 + 650 = 973 health per second
Accounting for player skill management we can say an attentive player will probably have around 900-940 health per second while playing the build.
Anyway, warriors feel pretty naked in comparison to all that sustain and I never have trouble killing them with my engy/thief/ele because of how obvious the telegraphs are so I dont think it warrants concern until people get better at the game.
The heal is nice on many classes. But an Engi dies in 4-5 sec in focus fire in team fights. The lack of good stunbreaker/condi removal and no stability no gap closer/teleport are main reasons. Warrior with the perfect AE CC and a lot of stability is way harder to kill. Base HP/Armor not included. Check the team fights in ToL. Team fights baby
ahh ok, done.
Thread can be closed
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elixir_C
The Notes are wrong for Elixir C. Elixir C has a cast time and is not a stunbreaker. It is impossible to convert fear into stability. This should be removed from the notes.
Even if nobody is using elixir c at the moment
Lol you can play without runes or amulets and still win as an engi so why does it matter?
A necro eats engis soul without hitting more as 3 buttons. And you guess engi is strong?
I also tested this yesterday. And with celestial amulet the damage was bigger. I guess this is a bug or something because the damage was the same with rabid and zerker
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpErtbxkLseNCbBNqxI6OWlN+5DEgkC-TJRHwAFeAAc2fAwFA4YZAA
It’s survivable, but hybrid. Played like a power Engi, with Rifle.
Edit: My hybrid tournament build
and now please stream again. Have to see you in action
Play the Vee Wee build and do not use grenade #2 or #5. With power damage and CC possiblities it is possible to beat condition necros.
yes this is correct. He is using the trait that elixir removes 1 condition and this works also for the elixir R field.
nice build. But I would like to see some videos.
Looks like i will record after all. Expect some footage soon-ish, as well as guide edit regarding 1v1 vs every class explained.
I will watch it for sure.
Rifle is for power and pistol for condi.
Rifle gives you good cc possiblities and pistol gives you with poisen and blind good utilty/defense abilities.
I like pistol/pistol more because of the style. At the moment we all play Vee Wees Rifle build because it is awesome and Vee Wee is Engi #1
The ToL showed us. in PvP is bunker/power now the meta. In the finals was no condi build and in the semifinal was also no condi build.
Try his builds and you will know why he is #1.
After the people watched Tol the engi meta is over. Had a lot of warrior and eles yesterday in soloQ. Way more as engis.
The Ele build is crazy, so tanky it looks unkillable in 1vs1.
If Vee Wee tells you to run or to die. So run or die. Trust Vee Wee he/she is #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!
@Vee Wee I like you rifle power build is really good. I was suprised.
one question how you handle condi necros with your build. I mean you die like all of us in the fear after you got your condis back from him.
nice build. But I would like to see some videos.
Watch the Ostricheggs stream. He is one of the best Engineers and he often plays Engi in his stream (sometimes ele, thief or warrior).
Chainth does not stream anymore and teldo is also not playing at the moment. So I guess Ostricheggs stream is the best choice.
Even if normal players are not able to get his skill it is very useful to watch the stream and learn how to react.
Top teams are not using engis for a good reason. Watch ToL.
Engis are fine but far away from unkillable.
I’d like to know what that good reason is.
I guess because Engi is killable and other classes bring more on the table.
I find them highly unkilable when they put all of their stuff down… They do TONS of damage, and besides that, the amount of heal that he can do + invulnerability is just sick…
I guess you are a thief, right?
Top teams are not using engis for a good reason. Watch ToL.
Engis are fine but far away from unkillable.
I also watched it and it was great. Thx to ANet and all the people around ToL
I love Chaiths stream and builds so I hope GF will make it
yes, warrior is with the new pin down fine. Wild bill thiefs are also ok but harder as normal 222222 or 33333 thiefs for me.
Necros are unbeatable. With HGH power or with the Chaith Power build it looks better
I not sure if HGH is the answer at the moment.
Condi engi is fine against all but condi builds. But I need a secondary build if I see in soloQ I play against 2 necros + 1 condi warrior + 1 wild bill thief.
I can’t kill a condi necro with condis and against warrior is also not so easy. So I think about going for chill or for HGH
I used to run a build with Grenth runes too, works pretty well. Keeping ppl in a movement and skill recharge lockdown is a key to defeat 90% of the builds out there.
Even condi spamming necros.Too bad AR was hit s badly, i cant really use that build anymore. Now its back to basic boring HGH spammer build, since i find that about the only grandmaster trait still any good. And Granadier. I wonder when they will get nerfed.
Could you post a build that is good to beat condi necros?
Is HGH + Chill possible?
bad 4 you /15 chars
WvW:
Grenth (Chill is sooo much fun)
Krait
Balthazar (same as Grenth but this time it is getting the extra burning tick)PvP
Water (We have great “on heal” abilities)For Sigils:
Wvw Really liking Fire/Air for condi. It is just so much extra damage.Pvp
Water for bunker
WvW:
— do not play
PvP
Balthazar
For Sigils:
Wvw :
—- do not play
Pvp
Battle/Energy
Minion Necro is the only spec here which can literally stand in place and not touch anything while still dealing significant damage to an opponent.
Now, Minion Necro could be a spec involving skilled gameplay if the passive damage was removed from the minions and minions had more utility. For example, if Shadow Fiend was an AoE blind and short chill. If Bone Minions exploded into a cloud of weakness and poison. If Bone Fiend’s immobilize had a reasonable cast time.
Right now the only truly well designed minion is probably Flesh Wurm, where it offers reasonable utility and damages only if the enemy is within range and chooses not to kill it.
As for spirit Ranger, I would actually prefer Spirits to work like this:
Instead of having passive abilities, spirits passive are combined into their current passives, for example, Sun Spirit would look like:
20 second cooldown, your sun spirit blinds all enemies nearby, you and allie’s next attacks do 4 seconds of burning. This ‘burning attack’ would appear on the rangers bar as the current sun spirit passive icon.
This preserves the sun spirit’s basic function, without even a percentage nerf, but adds a LOT of counterplay and skillful play. Say my team has an enemy down, I hit my sun spirit, blinding the enemy team and applying lots of burning to my team’s cleave.
The other spirits could be reworked in exactly the same way, although there might need to be some rebalancing done to cooldowns and such.
Frost Spirit might look like this:
20 second CD, your frost spirit chills nearby enemies for 5 seconds (pulsing), you and your teammates next attack does 50% more damage
Suddenly frost spirit is actually viable for burst comps and again, the former passive is made into something cool, and noticeable. Imagine a zerker ranger/thief frost spirit duo
—————————————————-As for PU mesmers, the solution is pretty simple: summoning a phantasm from stealth should cause reveal, as it is an attack which does damage. Problem SOLVED
pu memser in spvp is pretty useless
because they kill the guy on far / close in 1on1 situations ? Or because the phantasm makes 7k AOE damage in a team fight?
Hello frands! Vee Wee here #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!
I hoped that help! Wahoo Bye frands!
Hello Engi #1. I have a question regarding sPvP. Because you are the best Engi NA and maybe worldwide. Maybe you know how to help me
I play at the moment:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqalUUpkrlYx+KseNCbBNqxI6N2xq85DEgkC-TJhIwAQ2fAwDAYwJAgYZAA
This is a condi build with sigil of purity.
With this build I am
fine against power warrior and thiefs. I rock hard against ranger. I am not able to kill a very good guardian alone ( a bunker one). I have a hard time vs ele or mesmer but win 50% of the fights (mesmer warlock is at the moment pretty hard)
but
me <<< necro. (vs condi necros I have no chance)
I have also a hard time vs other condi classes like a condi thief (lol) or a condi warrior. But against a necro I have literally 0 chance.
Could you help me? Do you know a build with grenades (because they are so much fun) that dominate fights against a necro? Maybe you have a gameplay video for me?
I talk about sPvP only. I do not care about WvW or PvE not one bit.
1vs1 at far yesterday. 8k hit by warlock on my 17k hp rabid engi :/
what ? AR is nerfed. Go for a condi class and kill the engi in no time.
I which my engineer would get stun break at elixir C or something else to have a chance against a condi necro. Condi Necros are unbeatable from a condi engi point of view :/
I would go for runes of Hoelbrak. You have already nice burning and with Hoelbrak you have longer might in fight. Anyway nice build