Guild Wars 2

Eternalight.4708:

This type of thing will be useful instead of typing a spiel about what you’re running Currently maining Thief/Guard so i’ll check that side of things out.

Haha glad you liked it, yea it’s a quality of life time saver especially when you have more than more class in the party!

Out with the old…in with the new! With the update a day away I wanted to make a thread to help people ease into the new system. I was inspired by a comment so I decided to do this. Below is a list of specialization names for each profession and some abbreviations I came up with and some that people were already using. Add your own if you feel like it

Elementalist:
Fire Magic: FM or Fire/F
Air Magic: AM or Air/A
Earth Magic: EM or Earth/E
Water Magic: WM or Water/W
Arcane: Arc/R

Engineer:
Explosives: EP or splosives
Firearms: FA
Inventions: Vents
Alchemy: Alch
Tools: Tools or Tls if lazy lol

Guardian:
Zeal: Zeal or Zl
Radiance: Rad
Valor: Val
Honor: Hnr
Virtues: Virts

Mesmer: (this’ll be fun XD)
Domination: Domin or Dom
Dueling: Duel
Chaos: Chaos
Inspiration: Inspir.
Illusions: Lusions

Necro:
Spite: Spite
Curses: Curse(s)
Death Magic: DM
Blood Magic: BM
Soul Reaping: SR or Reaping (not to be confused with Shadow Refuge or Reaper spec)

Ranger:
Marksmanship: Marks (not necro marks)
Skrimishing: Skrim or Mish
Wilderness Survival: WS
Nature Magic: NM
Beastmastery: BM

Thief:
Deadly Arts: DA
Critical Strikes: CS
Shadow Arts: SA
Acrobatics: Acro
Trickery: Tricks

Warrior:
Strength: Str
Arms: Arms
Defense: Def
Tactics: Tact
Discipline: Dis or Dp

For anyone that has no idea what I’m taking about this quote from Anet might clear it up. Please feel free to share any ideas even different from this. Thanks!

“I am a(n) {profession name} specializing in {Spec #1}, {Spec #2}, and {Spec #3}. i.e., I am a ranger specializing in Marksmanship, Wilderness Survival, and Beastmastery.”

Edit: My apologies to all the Eles I forgot water magic (_). Also added F/A/E/W/R.

To be honest I don’t know why people keep calling the protesters toxic or salty or whatever. Many of the opinions I’ve are quite civil and respectful.

Silhouette.5631:

So I take it none of you have ever run battle presence in full clerics gear?

Even in cleric’s, we use the active so much BP heals won’t have a huge impact anymore.

So day 5 eh…hopefully we’ll get some word from arena this week.

Please do not assume that because a few players are harassing employees that means the whole HoT protest is. The way I see it GW2 may not have a huge fanbase (compared to other MMOs) but they have a very passionate one that cares about the game and doesn’t what the company to go down the road they are heading. If Arena cared about the game half as much as the fans, we would have gotten a response by now. Either way if they respond positively (if at all), everyone benefits.

Mikau.6920:

Already was weak, now is totally useless.

Thanks for input looks like I’ll be going with courage for stability and aoe stun break. Unless they buffed the healing or running 2 guards.

Nerf or now working as intended? BP is now in virtues but goes cd whenever resolve’s active is used, is this a big deal?

Yea and only your auto attack will be used I believe.

EnderzShadow.2506:

lol he’s going to spec for all those reflects and then comes across condi ranger..lol

hahahaha

Penguin.5197:

Eat snow leopard egg

Too funny XD.

Julie Yann.5379:

The devs, forum staff, customer support staff and all the other good people working at Anet don;t deserve this. The kittenheads that came up with this pricing scheme and those responsible for the shady business practices deserve every bit of it.

This! X10 Someone posted a similar thought on reddit.

I wonder why Arena Net has not said anything concerning what’s going on. I feel that this could be dangerous especially coming out of E3. There are so many options if people are feeling unhappy about the game just to list a few like Arkham Knight, steam sales, Fallout 4 etc. All or any of these instead of buying HoT. I personally like the game they have created and supporting it through gems, they seem like a dedicated bunch of people, but the silence is ridiculous. Whatever they decided they need to respond and not treat customers like they mean nothing.

Conski Deshan.2057:

That’s a little bit of an over simplification, there are 3 separate issues.
1. The basic version does not come with a character slot which many felt it should.
2. The vanilla game bonus is completely lost to players who already own the game.
3. The price for one or more of the versions is felt to be excessive.

Accounting for all three to properly “fix” the problem as best as possible the following changes would be needed.

Basic version:
-Character slot added (P1)
-Gift for owners of the game already, Either the vanilla key or 800 gems would be considered the acceptable alternative (P2)

Deluxe:
-Second character slot added (to maintain the relative value to the basic version) (P1)
-Gift for owners of the game already, Either the vanilla key or 800 gems would be considered the acceptable alternative (P2)
-Price reduction or addition of value (P3)

Ultimate:
-Second character slot added (to maintain the relative value to the basic version) (P1)
-Gift for owners of the game already, Either the vanilla key or 800 gems would be considered the acceptable alternative (P2)
-Price reduction (I don’t actually mind the price on this one since the only benefit is the gems) (P3)

There’s also the fact that those who very recently got the game purchased it thinking it was needed for the expansion. They are offering a refund but you must delete your account I believe.

Jongi.7612:

Lyger.5429:

Jongi.7612:

Lyger.5429:

I think we need to stop replying to posts like these cause they clearly don’t see where others are coming from and just keep defending Arena and their purchase.

I see where people are coming from. And its wrong. Its not even an opinion at this point, they are saying “this certain thing is happening” when it really isnt.

Oh so this it about you being right and everyone else wrong? No wonder Anet thought they could get away with this,

If that helps you sleep at night, say whatever you want. But your just creating a scenario that doesnt exist. If im wrong prove it, me and so many other people have explained and where to go look about these things you guys keep bringing up. HoT is $50, your not getting anything more or less than a new player, and your not entitled to getting free stuff because you have been playing for 3 years.

Okay I’ll play your game, let’s say you’re right and I’m wrong. What do you lose if Anet does decide to compensate us?

Jongi.7612:

Lyger.5429:

I think we need to stop replying to posts like these cause they clearly don’t see where others are coming from and just keep defending Arena and their purchase.

I see where people are coming from. And its wrong. Its not even an opinion at this point, they are saying “this certain thing is happening” when it really isnt.

Oh so this it about you being right and everyone else wrong? No wonder Anet thought they could get away with this,

I think we need to stop replying to posts like these cause they clearly don’t see where others are coming from and just keep defending Arena and their purchase.

Gotta love this video pretty much sums up what Anet is trying to do.

Would like to know about these as well.

No idea why they won’t just make shield trait an adept or just merge it with strength in numbers. These are the kind of changes that need to be done if the devs want people to use shield.

Kill.3458:

Theirs no point arguing with White Knights, they see the issue as black and white and ultimately support ANet despite the clearly questionable actions.

For the final time the price isnt the issue, the issue resides in the value of the purchase. If ANet feels that the expansion is worth $50 id like to see what exactly makes it worth $50 before making an investment.

The second fault in value being that clearly existing players are getting the short end of the stick, not to mention that if you purchased in the days before the FAQ change on 05/16/15 you were basically lied to. No matter what way you look at it we are being FORCED to repurchase the base game without getting an extra copy of the core game (HoT has essentially replaced the core game as its the only offering of GW2 being marketed by ANet on their site).

Many of the complaints probably would have ceased to exist if:
A. Something was added to the standard edition (*cough*Char. Slot/800 gems) to make up for the fact that existing players will not be getting a second copy of the core game.

B. Releasing more info on what exactly the expansion includes, not ambiguous rumors as to what exactly we will be getting.

I for one will hold onto my money until ANet address the community on the issue. Also for the love of god, stop comparing this game to P2P models or saying the price is simply justified by the fact this is B2P…

At least some people understand

Nice post!, I’m looking forward to seeing what the devs did to the spirits.

Broom.2561:

You might want to google ‘heart of thorns presale’. Someone in the megathread linked two game store sites (around page 82 I think) where you can pre-order the expansion for way way way less… and apparently standalone.

Anet said if it’s a third party website selling it, it is most likely a scam. Only they are selling atm.

I think necros and rangers should be less humble and start demanding guardian and ele tiered buffs

sevenDEADLY.5281:

Are you under the impression that the patch coming Tuesday is only changing engineers? Every class is receiving major changes. There is no overhaul that engineers received that rangers aren’t also getting.

I don’t disagree that we won’t be getting any changes but to say that they are similar to engineers is silly. Just look at the master line in Marksmanship to the Explosives master line. All I’m saying is that ranger lacks synergy in a lot of traits. When going through the engi traitline I find it had to choose cause they are all so good, ranger however not so much.

After looking at some of the new engi traits and the awesome synergy they provide, do you think the ranger profession needs a complete overhaul too? Or are we in a good spot?

Arena Net Financial Department:
Person 1: Lets make HoT $50 with base game and character slot and have other deluxe versions if the player chooses to upgrade.

Person 2: Lets make HoT $50, no character slot and add the base game as a “gift”. This way current players will be forced to buy the deluxe or ultimate if they need a character slot to play Revenant and we’ll profit!!

Person 3 & 4: Yay for profit!

I can’t figure of why people are defending Anet’s decisions on the bundles, it’s like they want to be ripped off. I personally spend a lot on the gem store to gain items I want and in turn support the company. Since I started playing the amount I spent is probably more than a monthly sub fee. Which leads me to another question how many of these “white knights” actually support this game through gems? Cause as of how much I’ve spent on this game I have a valid reason to be upset when I know I’m being ripped off. This expac costing $50 for what they’ve shown and no character slot must be a late April Fool’s joke…

Karl McLain.5604:

Bountiful Theft has its own stealing table/order. We’re looking into the possibility of changing it to function similarly to the conversions, but there’s also a chance that we move to “first-in-last-out” in the future as well. The big thing is that we always want to assure benefit, so that you don’t steal the tail-end of swiftness for 0.5 seconds (also, it’s preferable for balance that we don’t let the trait steal minutes worth of specific boons). Here’s the order, Resistance and Slow included:

Aegis
Stability
Protection
Regeneration
Retaliation
Fury
Swiftness
Might
Resistance
Quickness
Vigor (since the trait already gives you this one)

Flanking Strikes still uses the first in last out system and won’t be random, since it’s not a conversion.

Hope this helps,
-Karl

Hey Karl thanks for the reply, could you explain what happened to ricochet?

From what I see so far NM seems more pve/group support and BM is more pvp/solo open world.

Are you using Quick Draw as Skirmishing grandmaster?

Anyone know which of these two traitlines will produce higher dps for ranger and pet in the upcoming patch?

$30:
HoT Expansion Upgrade
$50:
Character Slot
Base Game + HoT expansion
$75
Character Slot
Base Game + HoT expansion
Mini Rytlock
Rev Finisher
Guild Hall Decorations
Glider Skin
$30 worth of gems (if they are feeling generous)

Edit: Changed standalone to upgrade

Stop being greedy?….after spending over 300$ in gems in less than a year of playing & A.Net can’t even bother to bundle a slot with the basic……please OP.

Is it normal to open pre-purchases w/o a release date, just curios as I haven’t pre-ordered before.

Whoever thinks that you need to take WS traitline in PvE dungeons has probably not played ranger enough, there are many viable condi cleanses out side of WS as Sebrent pointed out. Just look the the current LB & Sw/A build.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

yes you give up like 20% vun time if you choose BM though the pets will make up for that with Zypher speed Pets have super speed+quickness kitten it..with shared boons thrown on top ,that on a bird and you’ll have your kitten dps back..

bark skin on low hp pets will not work its best so you don’t have to use bark skin.
though bark skin for bears/drakes/pigs/hounds maybe spiders depending on the hp will be worth it.

I highly doubt dropping either Marksman or Skirmish for BM will be wise. From what I see it will be an overall dps loss from a power perspective. In terms of pets, unreliable dps (due to death) is bad.

mistsim.2748:

I don’t know much about PVE, but I think im gonna go with a 0/6/0/6/6 trapper/condi/BM build. it’s really easy to stack and maintain bleeds, burns and poison now, in addition to pets hitting like trucks. you can go a/d + a/t or SB/a/d with 3 traps.

More concerned about a PvE power build

Anyone know if beast-mastery will be worth taking over nature magic in PvE, because with fortifying bond being in NM doesn’t seem like it?

BM seems more solo oriented or useful when you don’t have a PS war, but that will be very rare in the upcoming patch.

I can’t figure out why anet decided to separate these and remove the opening strike from signet. Marksman is very lackluster at the moment. If they merge these two traits then maybe we can get the opening strike trait back or get something actually useful in the traitline….

Does Empowering Might on Guardian have an ICD?

I’m really upset at the moment, I feel like PvE rangers got destroyed and warriors are complaining….

KhainPride.3987:

You decided to make our burst skills to share cooldowns, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? I can only focus on using 1 burst skill at a time, I cant do back 2 back. Whats the point of burst mastery + adren on weapon swap.

Calm down a bit..from what I understand you can still switch weapons and use back to back. The cd now applies to each adrenaline tier per weapon. I think this means you can’t use both tier 3 burst and tier one without cd on the same weapon, but you can use bow and greatsword burst right after each other. Or I could be wrong but anet needs to clarify this or we can see for ourselves next week.

How is moving Strider’s from GM a good thing? Now when running sw/x I have to choose between that or spotter.

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

We know about it and have a repro. Thanks anonymous tipster to the exploits@arena.net alias!

I hope they fix whatever’s going on because I’ve been posting all over bugs fourm and the game is still loading slow for my even in the character select screen, it all started today.

Started to experience long load times today for maps and even pvp matches and slight freezes.

When I logged into guildwars 2 today I noticed that the Grove was taking awhile to load so I lowered my settings and the map finally opened. When I started to pvp the long load times persisted and my game began to freeze and crash with no sound. One match the UI showing the held points did not load then I crashed. The other match my options menu did not load then I crashed. Can anyone help out? The only change I made to my programs was installing Overwolf, so I uninstalled it, but it’s still buggy. Any help would be much appreciated (running a virus scan atm).

Also most of my ui isn’t loading properly or loading slowly.

Here’s an idea the mists send Rytlock back in time before Zhaitan’s death, he teaches us everything he knows and he makes-up with Logan a second time. It’s a win-win! You’re welcome Anet

Or Rytlock’s journey to the Mists in the present, affected the timeline and “awakened” revenants in the past!

Nolan North? I think you mean Nathan Drake, it’s ok though I see how this can be mistaken

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Not everyone is seeing the high ping. And although your latency might have started right after a recent patch, that doesn’t mean the update is the cause.

Your best bet to get ANet to work with you on this is to create a support ticket (3rd link on top left). Customer Service will ask you to run some diagnostics and help you figure out where the latency is occurring. It could be home, your ISP, ANet’s ISP, or anywhere in between. If it’s on their end, they’ll need those details to troubleshoot and/or work with their providers. If it’s closer to your end, you’ll want those details to work with your provider.

Ok thanks for the information!