Yes average pve hero who is almost rank 49 without farming hotjoin
You’re so cute….r65 with 4.5k+ tournaments and playing only pvp since beta here…so? Going tpvp while lagging and knowing you can dc and leave your mates 4v5 just for stupid achievements should be punished..probably dishonor is not even enough for ppl like you…if you want to farm achivements pve and wvw are there for you. Even if since 2 months i only go pug in tpvp i always play for win no matter if my team is bad or not even if we get terrible matchmaking vs premades…if ppl want a competitive game they should always play for their team and for win otherwise they could delete tpvp already…no wonder why competitive side in this game is almost dead..
Not my fault anet added these dailies.
And I think my 1.5k tourneys are above average, too.
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I support Awe’s proposition. A total cap of 20-25k daily points would not be reached by anyone but the most dedicated completionists (who do the permanent stuff as well), it wouldn’t punish anyone’s playstyle and it would improve the achievement point system, making the leaderboard more competitive (except for the living story achievement problem) + making playing the game like completionists do more relaxed.
If anet is worried that these completionists would stop logging in daily after reaching this cap, I feel there still is enough incentive to get your chest every day, aka laurels.
Why exactly do you wish to punish the most dedicated completionists again by capping their access to APs? Why is their style of play so ‘not good enough’ that you feel the need to put a cap on it?
You don’t understand that completionists are the ones actually requesting that kind of change, because it will improve our playstyle.
Every completionist is asking for this, or only the few that see this as a means to try and cement their positions on the leader board by denying others access to APs?
A hardcap doesnt deny AP to people low on the leaderboards. It will affect the top 1000 much much faster than anyone trying to catch up. And I dont know any top 100 person who enjoys having to do so many dailies.
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It’s pretty obvious what your motives are. The changes you want to happen give you a direct advantage on the leaderboard, where as the suggestions I make simply give everyone a fair shot.
I disagree.
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Not really, commanders have few badges because they buy sieges for it.
ive got 5k badges rotting cuz i buy sieges on the tp
love this idea
gold spammers dont have badges cuz badges are earned… pve commanders dont have badges to waste on this cuz they need all theirs for their legendaries… and it gives wvw players a way to get people from maps not named lions arch.
wouldnt be any worse than those silly scarlet notifications once people get over it and use all their badges in the first week its available.
I rarely have over 500, but then again I buy most of my siege with badge, as well as liquid wxp (bought 110 levels with badges/laurels so far).
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I doubt anyone will care about a leaderboard exclusively made for who plays most hours per day. To me it looks like you are upset that you cant be competing in the current leaderboard soon, so you want to make a new one fitting your own needs.
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While I won’t comment on whether or not I think this is P2W, do people really feel entitled to a refund for their previous purchases and if so why?
I bought a TV one time that was HD and large…now they have new ones that are thinner with a better picture for cheaper than what I paid originally for my TV in the past but I don’t feel entitled for a refund or an updated TV. I bought the original iPhone for $400 bucks but then soon after they released a new version for $200 and it had 3g and more features so should I be entitled for a full refund or an upgraded version for free?
Using the examples, why do so many people feel they deserve a refund or an update to their existing pick? Please no trolling or flaming, I am just curious on the communities thought on that.
There is no difference between your example and what is going on with the picks. I’d love to see the look on a Best Buy employee’s face if someone went into the store and demanded that their TV be upgraded because a newer one came out a month after they bought it.
There is. A new and better TV takes a lot of money to develop. This pick is just a virtual item which probably took less than 1000 USD to make. And they can make better picks ad infinitivum without it becoming more pricy or being limited by physics.
I seriously doubt you know the costs involved in manufacturing a Projection style TV versus an LCD Flat screen(if you do more power to you) but truth be told, the example I used covered people wanting returns on an older item they purchased after they are unhappy with it once a newer one comes out, even if it has an extra feature(s). This was countered very well by a poster already.
But using my iPhone example, did the new one cost $200 less dollars to make 2 months of when I purchased mine? Original iPhone cost $400…my point is that I bought an item when it came out or when I found one I liked and just because a newer one or better one or upgraded version of one comes out doesn’t mean I deserve an upgrade for free.
Honestly, my post wasn’t about the cost of these items, it was about the entitled who feel they deserve a full refund and/or an upgrade to their existing purchases.
By your logic, if this new item did take an hour extra to create versus the old one because of the new ability it has, you’d be okay paying for it and paying extra?
As I said earlier, I’d prefer to see this addition go away myself. I don’t like how they’ve gone about doing it but that’s a different topic to me.
I was not talking about the manufacturing costs, I was talking about the development of said TV.
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While I won’t comment on whether or not I think this is P2W, do people really feel entitled to a refund for their previous purchases and if so why?
I bought a TV one time that was HD and large…now they have new ones that are thinner with a better picture for cheaper than what I paid originally for my TV in the past but I don’t feel entitled for a refund or an updated TV. I bought the original iPhone for $400 bucks but then soon after they released a new version for $200 and it had 3g and more features so should I be entitled for a full refund or an upgraded version for free?
Using the examples, why do so many people feel they deserve a refund or an update to their existing pick? Please no trolling or flaming, I am just curious on the communities thought on that.
There is no difference between your example and what is going on with the picks. I’d love to see the look on a Best Buy employee’s face if someone went into the store and demanded that their TV be upgraded because a newer one came out a month after they bought it.
There is. A new and better TV takes a lot of money to develop. This pick is just a virtual item which probably took less than 1000 USD to make. And they can make better picks ad infinitivum without it becoming more pricy or being limited by physics.
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This behavior happens to me often when I am playing PvP while doing something else at the same time. It doesnt have to be a bot. Try to talk to the person in question next time.
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I dont think the Karma is a problem. I earned over 5mil karma ever since the nerf. Bought for all my karma obsidian shards like a week before the update. I suggest to play more WvW.
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At this point I would rather have a subscription based MMO than this stupid gem shop.
You’d rather have to pay a mandatory monthly fee to access a game you already paid for instead of a cash shop full of optional fluff that won’t cut off access to the game you paid for if you choose not to use it?
Yes. I want the whole game available without being nickle and dimed for every skin or miniature I like. As it is now I pay more per month in Gem Shop than I would pay for a subscription.
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Some people either need to look up the definition for what pay to win is since this clearly is not. People are either misinformed or just trolling and using this as another opportunity to attack the game and/or Anet.
There is no offical definition of pay to win. For some people its winning to save time. For some its winning to look good. For some its winning to have a statistical advantage. For some its winning if you level faster, especially if its world ranks.
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Just make it a total cap of retired, daily, monthly and living story points. 25k would seem fair. So people can even get max AP if they started playing 3 years after release.
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if there is a cap its possible to catch up, you logic is wrong
So you’re quite happy to penalize people that currently get numbers that may exceed a hypothesized cap because you disagree with how they play the game?
Indeed, I am happy to do so. There are already so many “penalizing mechanics” (eye of the beholder) in this game, one more wont hurt.
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Yes, over a year and they haven’t changed a – to a + in the description of a potion to make it accurate. The lack of polish in this game is getting embarrassing as the months go by. This is the kind of quality you should expect when you play an MMO without a monthly subscription.
The sad thing is, the gemshop is making anet more money than subscription. I heared they earned 175millions with gemshop last year.
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I like having a lot of daily points available. I couldn’t play for a year so it helps me catch up to people who have been playing all that time but only do the 5 a day.
I dont see how a hardcap on dailies/montlies/living story would change this
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If Player A is ranked 100 on the leaderboard and is willing to spend 18 hours a day doing dailies and other achievements to move up, should he not be allowed to because Player B can’t handle the mental pressure of not doing all the dailies, but also is unwilling to devote the same amount of time and effort?
He shouldnt be allowed too. Game companies should take some responsibility and not add stuff which encourage playing an unhealthy amount per day. There are diminshing returns on all kind of PvE stuff so its not worth doing anymore after a few hours, so I dont see how there shouldnt be something to discourage people from playing 18h a day to do dailies. The 4-6 hours a day are already beyond unacceptable. If nothing changes by release of TESO there is a good chance I will leave because the achievement system looks to be much better.
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If a commander abuses it people could use the block feature. But sure its still an inconvenience if many commanders start using it to server wide chat or something.
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It never resets because it doesnt make sense to reset, since achievement points are something permanent which dont degrade over time. Your suggestion makes all permanent achievements meaningless.
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If you primarly play WvW its unlikely you would reach the cap anyway. Lets say the cap would be 10000 AP it would take 2000 days @ 5AP per day, over 5 years. At 20k cap it would already be over 10 years.
Making dailies give AP was a horrible idea from the start to say the least. Now that the damage is done anet can only limit the damage.
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Killing 1000 oozes happens naturally as you play, for example ascalon catacombs. I think I had that one month after release already without specifically hunting them.
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I think you should reread the thread, because you obviously did not understand the suggestions. As it is now we have the immense advantage as long as we keep playing. Adding a hardcap on temporary AP points would allow people who started later to catch up as time goes on.
Next time read more closely before posting.
I am annoyed by having to reexplain everything every few posts because people either dont bother reading the whole thread or want to get this thread closed with strawman arguments.
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If there wouldn’t be less choice, then there would be the same amount (if not more) Achievement points and their related tasks offered each day. Great! We are on the same page. =)
Choice is always a good thing!
I didn’t want it sending the wrong message, and obviously it was.
So the laurels, exp and chance for black lion items like the salvage kit is not good enough for doing some dailies?
If they were, you wouldn’t be doing more than 5 a day, would you?
If a hard cap were introduced I would absolutely be able to slow down, as any points I miss or would miss could be “made up” in a sense. Surely even new players would appreciate that, right? I probably would just do 5 on some days, and after I hit the cap, I would do 5 for the item rewards.
There’s nothing stopping you from doing that even without a hard cap, except, you know, people might start catching up to you on the leaderboard, which is what you’re trying to avoid.
Really though, the leaderboard in it’s current incarnation is worthless, a metric not of any player’s proficiency in the game, but rather, of how long they’ve been playing. What’s the point of a leaderboard where incumbency is by far the biggest predictor of placement?
If anything, the leaderboard should be reset at set time intervals, should include only temporary achievements (living story, daily, monthly). Daily and Monthly achievements should have more options than any player can reasonably complete, with a good number of fast, easy achievements (kill 30 ambients), as well as a number of long, difficult achievements (Complete a level 40+ Fractal run), all of course weighted by the difficulty of attaining the daily achievement (30 ambients = 1AP, 40+ Fractal Run = 10).
And of course, with a more dynamic leaderboard, there’s greater room for rewards for placing in the top 100, 1000, etc on the leaderboard. In its current incarnation, such a reward system would be impossible, as it would just be a giant screw-you to everyone who wasn’t here from the start.
Your system would reward people who spend most hours per day instead of veterancy or skillful play. I dont see any improvement. Yes, you can optimize your time to get more dailies done per day, must most achievement hunters already perfected it.
So you’re saying it rewards dedication to the task. I’m not seeing a problem. I’m really not sure why you think you deserve more just because you play a lot or longer than others.
You contradict yourself. First you say it rewards dedication to the task and in next sentence you say people dont deserve more for playing longer.
But its like that already 5 dailies in 15minutes or 20 AP in 4-6 hours. So playing more per day gives more AP.
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If there wouldn’t be less choice, then there would be the same amount (if not more) Achievement points and their related tasks offered each day. Great! We are on the same page. =)
Choice is always a good thing!
I didn’t want it sending the wrong message, and obviously it was.
So the laurels, exp and chance for black lion items like the salvage kit is not good enough for doing some dailies?
If they were, you wouldn’t be doing more than 5 a day, would you?
If a hard cap were introduced I would absolutely be able to slow down, as any points I miss or would miss could be “made up” in a sense. Surely even new players would appreciate that, right? I probably would just do 5 on some days, and after I hit the cap, I would do 5 for the item rewards.
There’s nothing stopping you from doing that even without a hard cap, except, you know, people might start catching up to you on the leaderboard, which is what you’re trying to avoid.
Really though, the leaderboard in it’s current incarnation is worthless, a metric not of any player’s proficiency in the game, but rather, of how long they’ve been playing. What’s the point of a leaderboard where incumbency is by far the biggest predictor of placement?
If anything, the leaderboard should be reset at set time intervals, should include only temporary achievements (living story, daily, monthly). Daily and Monthly achievements should have more options than any player can reasonably complete, with a good number of fast, easy achievements (kill 30 ambients), as well as a number of long, difficult achievements (Complete a level 40+ Fractal run), all of course weighted by the difficulty of attaining the daily achievement (30 ambients = 1AP, 40+ Fractal Run = 10).
And of course, with a more dynamic leaderboard, there’s greater room for rewards for placing in the top 100, 1000, etc on the leaderboard. In its current incarnation, such a reward system would be impossible, as it would just be a giant screw-you to everyone who wasn’t here from the start.
Your system would reward people who spend most hours per day instead of veterancy or skillful play. I dont see any improvement. Yes, you can optimize your time to get more dailies done per day, must most achievement hunters already perfected it.
I love how you quoted my post and then responded as if you hadn’t read it. I’ll respond to each point in yours, with a simple explanation derived from the the text you quoted, just to prove this point.
Malediktus
Your system would reward people who spend most hours per day instead of veterancy or skillful play.
Subdue
Really though, the leaderboard in it’s current incarnation is worthless, a metric not of any player’s proficiency in the game, but rather, of how long they’ve been playing.
Subdue
as well as a number of long, difficult achievements (Complete a level 40+ Fractal run), all of course weighted by the difficulty of attaining the daily achievement (30 ambients = 1AP, 40+ Fractal Run = 10).
Malediktus
Yes, you can optimize your time to get more dailies done per day, must most achievement hunters already perfected it.
Subdue
Daily and Monthly achievements should have more options than any player can reasonably complete
And there you have it. Everything in your response to my post, already addressed in my post, which you were supposed to have been responding to. Post-ception.
Reasonably complete stops at 4 hours per day for me. Everything more is unreasonable, even if you want to compete in leaderboards. What about the people who can play 10h+ a day? You want to add as many temp achieves so not even them can do everything? Even if you add more than you can complete in 24 hours I dont see the sense of this.
The current system is terrible enough and yours would be even worse.
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If you get killed early due to the bug where you can kill people in preround you get no chest at the end and no progress to the games played achievement. Reported this weeks ago but its still not fixed.
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