Guild Wars 2

eldrin.6471:

Malediktus.9250:

It is hardly a grind if you have to do each boss only once per week. Stop overusing the word grind…
4 months is completly fine for 6 legendaries, I am suprised the rest of the legendary is so cheap, too. It should have been 100 crystalline bars per armor piece and not for the whole set for example

Its not 6 legendarys its 1 and supposed to be the equivalent of 1 legendary weapon based on what anet said,And the only reason most players are going back every week is to kill these bosses for the insights.grind is repeating content over and over long past the point you would have went and done something else,if you enjoy killing them over and over for months then to you its not grind,but please understand that is not how we all feal.

It is 6 legendary items with roughly the amount of material costs as a HoT legendary. So Anet was not lieing. If it were me it would have the material costs as 6 legendaries to keep it legendary and not cheap like this.

Its capped to not devalue permanent achievement points. A lot of difficult achievements give less AP than 5minutes of dailies.
Like getting legendary in pvp season is only 5 AP (so half a daily), 250k kills in WvW only give 51 AP (5 days of dailies).
So 10 easy AP per day is way over the top already. I wish Anet would delete daily/monthly AP and rework permanent AP.

You should take 1 mesmer, 2 ele and 2 necros instead of 4 ele and 2 mesmers
and thief is kinda useless too since it can only provide damage

It is hardly a grind if you have to do each boss only once per week. Stop overusing the word grind…
4 months is completly fine for 6 legendaries, I am suprised the rest of the legendary is so cheap, too. It should have been 100 crystalline bars per armor piece and not for the whole set for example

Rising Dusk.2408:

Lendruil.9061:

Why is it too much? Any legendary item should be a longtime goal, and given that wing 3 is so easy and i think pretty soon in a puggable state, with bandit trio and valeguard this makes 5 legendary insights that are really easy to get per week for everyone who is willing to put at least a little bit of effort into the game and knows a bit more than what skill 1 on his bar does.

No legendary item thus far requires 4 months of time gated activities with no missed bosses per week. If you were to do only 5 bosses out of the 9 it would take upwards of 7 months just for this part of the legendary! I have no intention of belaboring the point beyond this one post, but the tediousness of collecting just this one element is incomparable to anything else in the game (even the PvP legendary requires at most 2 months of time-gated dailies!). I say all of this as someone already over 100 LI’s and well on my way to the 150 mark; it’s just too much.

A set of armor is 6 pieces. So its not 4 month for one item, but 2,66 weeks per legendary item.

eldrin.6471:

for players using the lfg to find people to raid 150 is a far bigger mountain to climb than it is for those in organized raiding guilds, and is way out of proportion to any other task required for any other legendary. How meany fails does the average player using only lfg have before they get one kill and one insight?

Raids were never meant to be done with LFG, the lfg category was only added because people insisted on pugging raids.

Ayrilana.1396:

Malediktus.9250:

Ayrilana.1396:

harold.3526:

Ayrilana.1396:

You’re also completely disregarding what I said. Let’s say that within the next year, Anet added another raid with 9 bosses. Now players can get 18 LI per week. That automatically cuts the time in your example in half. It further gets reduced as they add more raids.

I believe at each raid will have its own “LI” type of item.

I don’t think Anet has stated that but I guess we’ll see with the next raid.

I think it would make sense if the new raid would get a new Legendary Insight item to encourage people to play the new raid and not just make them farm a raid they already have on farm status.

Players would have to do the new raids anyway at least for the collections.

Yes, but Anet hates reusing old currencies. Karma, Badges of Honor etc are all useless now.

Ayrilana.1396:

harold.3526:

Ayrilana.1396:

You’re also completely disregarding what I said. Let’s say that within the next year, Anet added another raid with 9 bosses. Now players can get 18 LI per week. That automatically cuts the time in your example in half. It further gets reduced as they add more raids.

I believe at each raid will have its own “LI” type of item.

I don’t think Anet has stated that but I guess we’ll see with the next raid.

I think it would make sense if the new raid would get a new Legendary Insight item to encourage people to play the new raid and not just make them farm a raid they already have on farm status.

DeanBB.4268:

Anet is also working on the next expansion pack at the same time. Correct?

They do, but we are just getting from 1 content draught to the next one. Because after that expansion we will be in the next content draught unless Anet hires 150 new devs.

Rococo.8347:

Don’t you just LOVE Google translate lol

The take home from it seems to be – only 3 LS releases a year new pvp maps and they are really proud of their esports you guys!

Yes, its terrible news if true. I dont want higher quality content but more quantity of content.

Rednik.3809:

Malediktus.9250:

PvP is not a stable difficulty since it is player generated content. The players play differently all the time, get carried or bribe people to let them win. It would very hard for Anet to predict the difficulty for it.
So unless you require ESL/Pro League matches I do not see how it can be equal difficulty.

Ofc it’s not equal, because it’s harder. Fighting scripts cannot be harder than fighting alive players by definition.

That is debateable. Even in diamond I meet lots of brainless players which might as well be replaced by bots.

Rednik.3809:

Malediktus.9250:

Dont make me laugh. There is nothing comparable in difficulty to raids inm GW2, so this is not possible. Farm gold and buy raid runs if you really have to have this armor.
If you think it is possible to make it equally difficult with other content currently available in the game, I am waiting to hear your suggestions to rip them apart.

PvP. Oh, sorry, I forgot that you bought boost to legendary from you emerald pit and never seen anything competitive.

PvP is not a stable difficulty since it is player generated content. The players play differently all the time, get carried or bribe people to let them win. It would very hard for Anet to predict the difficulty for it.
So unless you require ESL/Pro League matches I do not see how it can be equal difficulty.

Evilek.5690:

Malediktus.9250:

The matchmaking is disgusting. Almost impossible matchups for low MMR players and free wins for high MMR players (see all the screenshots with 20-40+ winstreaks on these forums).

MMR dont exist in this game, only Division.

Sure it exists. I can notice the quality of people in my team going down if I loose a lot and going back up after winning a few matches in a row.

2-3 months sounds too long to me unless each update is really large with a new map and all. A sure way to make all the casuals unhappy who have been waiting so long.
Also 2-3 month wait time hardly feels like a living story/world.

The matchmaking is disgusting. Almost impossible matchups for low MMR players and free wins for high MMR players (see all the screenshots with 20-40+ winstreaks on these forums).

eldrin.6471:

As someone who cant do the raids(age,disability’s etc)i just hope the 35k gold i got from gem purchases is enough to buy 125 insights i still need and finish this armour.Was it set at 150 to make it very costly for people like me? buying runs is a long standing tradition in guild wars,and like it or not it is allowed and was going to be used by some to get this armour.

35k gold should be more than plenty
If you find a guild which accepts you as their regular buyer you can probably get 150 LI for 15000 gold or less.

Buying raid runs is a perfectly viable option to get this set of legendary armor without needing to play any raid stuff yourself. So everyone who prefers farming open world over this should farm the gold and buy the runs instead of complaining.

Ohoni.6057:

Yeah, and again nobody is asking for an easier option. It should still take time and effort (but if so I’d like to get started on that time and effort now rather than months down the road), just time and effort spent OUTSIDE of raids.

Dont make me laugh. There is nothing comparable in difficulty to raids inm GW2, so this is not possible. Farm gold and buy raid runs if you really have to have this armor.
If you think it is possible to make it equally difficult with other content currently available in the game, I am waiting to hear your suggestions to rip them apart.

150 (25 per piece) is very fine. No changes needed. After all a set of armor is 6 pieces and should take a lot of effort to get 6 legendaries.

fourpoundburrito.1698:

mazut.4296:

No, dont lower the LI, lower the insane amount of T6 mats…

Seconded!

Also disagree on this one. 100 T6 mats per legendary is not insane. It is very generous

I think the items for the envoy II collection need manual white listing, too. They dont enter your inventory so not getting into the whitelisting queue

Are you crazy? EBG is the best WvW map. If you remove it the WvW population would easily drop by another 30%.

gin.7158:

7 minutes is not long. wtf are we playing the same game?

It is long. I have 3-4min in 10-15 pips diamond div range.

Just had amber+ saphire and 2 thieves in my team, needless to say we lost. They already started rushing lords when we had like 100 points and enemies tri cap. It was utter crap, no idea why this is even allowed and why I can loose pips for it.

Give us a true soloQ again with profession based MMR, because this is quite frankly unacceptable.

It goes away if you die or downed anyway, so more duration wont help

Ah, I was under impression that at least items whitelist automatically because they often appeared when I assumed noone was working at Anet office.

perry.9645:

Malediktus.9250:

I am sad that we need to wait even longer to finish this set. Isnt waiting 3 raid wings enough wait?
And why not just auto unlock the skins for all 3 armor classes after finishing crafting the legendary armor? Isnt 17 weeks time gate for 1 set enough? 17*3=51 weeks of doing all 9 boss encounters

Well timegate is somewhat over already by next week i will reach 150 insights, unlocking all sets at once would be nice but thats kind of a stretch to unlock 18 legendary skins at once.

I would prefer if the set would be 3x as expensive (except 3x 150 insights) to make and unlock everything in one go then.

I am sad that we need to wait even longer to finish this set. Isnt waiting 3 raid wings enough wait?
And why not just auto unlock the skins for all 3 armor classes after finishing crafting the legendary armor? Isnt 17 weeks time gate for 1 set enough? 17*3=51 weeks of doing all 9 boss encounters

eldrin.6471:

Thats 4 months minimum,if your killing all 9 raid bosses a week.what sort of tinny fraction of raiders can do that? 150 insights is probably more like a year+ to MR average.
and that 150 insights will do more to put people off raids than any thing else.
And putting people off even trying raids dont do the future of raids much good.

Its not like you have to spend 150 LI at once, just build one piece at a time.

It seems like the item and achievement API stopped whitelisting new stuff 2 days ago. What is up with that?

Zoltar MacRoth.7146:

OriOri.8724:

Malediktus.9250:

Mystic Coins are fine as they are. No changes / no new sources are needed in my opinion.

Let me guess. You finished all of your legendaries years ago and don’t want newer players to catch up to you unless they fork over thousands of extra gold just for mystic coins, on top of the already high cost of making legendaries?

Actually, unless I’m mistaken, he DID finish ALL the legendaries, and quite recently. I remember a post where he showed the screenshot. It was impressive. Unless I’m thinking of someone else.

I did all the precursor collections, but I am far from building all legendaries. Most of them look too ugly to me to build until I have plenty of resources to waste on it.

150 sounds perfect to me
It should be really difficult and time consuming to get legendary items, the current legendaries are all too easy to get

Mystic Coins are fine as they are. No changes / no new sources are needed in my opinion.

Yes, please change it as soon as possible. It looks really out of place at the moment.

Rednik.3809:

Cyninja.2954:

There is no need for economic transactions to take place when looking for psychological effects of scarcity.

Scarcity Effects on Value: A Quantitative Review of the Commodity Theory Literature
- http://scholarship.sha.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1181&context=articles

Only because it’s not part of a transaction or economic exchange does not mean it has no effect on values.

Subjective value is not something worth discussing.

by your logic humans, drugs, weapons etc in RL are worthless because I am not allowed to do any kind of trade with them and thus only have a subjective value?
the whole topic is pointless anyway, Anet wont change anything about it because they have a smart economist. So unless people quit in droves because of it, there is no reason for Anet to change it

It is completly RNG.

Down with Evon Gnashblade who opresses us with his 15% sales tax. It is time to expropriate Evon and give everything to Kiel.

These orphaned achievements might explain why I have 1 more AP ingame than I can see via API. I am still wondering every day where it might come from.

No I didnt. If someone went to the same mechanics / same RNG to get the tonic, the rarity or prestige was not negatively affected. It is only is negatively affected, if the means of aquireing the item was changed to make it faster/easier/more reliable to get.
The “I want it all, I want it now” crew sure lacks basic understanding of how MMOs, rarity and prestige work together.

Rednik.3809:

Malediktus.9250:

If you put value in rare items those people who have the tonic are worse off because their item will no longer be rare. Saying noone is worse off if you make it less of a rarity is nonsense.
Items can have an intrinsic value even if they are not tradeable on the free market. There are a lot of items in real life that you are not legally allowed to sell, but that does not make them worthless.

By your “logic”, every rare item must be immediately deleted after first drop to someone, otherwise we hurting his experience of owning something rare.

Not at all.

Nero.8047:

Patience young grasshopper.

It was promised as a feature of HoT/raids. Now all 3 raid wings are released and we are only 1 collection closer to the legendary armor. Seems like an insult to me.

If you put value in rare items those people who have the tonic are worse off because their item will no longer be rare. Saying noone is worse off if you make it less of a rarity is nonsense.
Items can have an intrinsic value even if they are not tradeable on the free market. There are a lot of items in real life that you are not legally allowed to sell, but that does not make them worthless.

Legendary armor is not in it seems. At least was not data mined. Pretty disappointing that Anet splits every little thing in several pieces. We waited for legendary armor since HoT release and now this. One of the two major disappointments of the patch.

Sindex.9520:

You really find this surprising? Most people did not get upset about the immortal weapons being tied to those package bundles. So this was bound to happen. Once again the lead of the micro-store wins.

I did not get upset about immortal weapon set because they did not give a collection achievement. This privateer weapon set gives a weapon collection.

Can now confirm that the new set also gives AP like the tradeable sets. Outrageous.

This is plain ridicilous. I thought Anet learned from the first BLTC sets which started untradeable but got changed later.
Now we need to gamble real money to do achievements (pay to win!). I demand this to be changed right now.

I refuse to spend any money on gambling, even though I could afford it. And yes even if I trade gold for gems I gamble real money since someone else basically bought the gems for me in that case.

The pip system from season 1 was good. -3 to +3 per match depending on team score and win probability

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

so i need to party with ruby players to have shorter queue time ?

wont help because it uses the highest ranked player in the party. If you are legendary, your ruby player will counts as a legendary, too

Its not awful. It is just another carrot to convince you to keep doing fractals. Just like people play the lottery with a 1 in 125m chance to win.
If anything Anet should add more items of similar rarity into the game for all kind of contents. I cant think of any reason why there should not be extremly rare cosmetic items. Noone is forced to get them, but it makes people extremly happy if they manage to get one.

I have 3min average queue times in diamond, I cant complain

Lexander.4579:

Malediktus.9250:

nice, your MMR must be sky high to get carried like that
I have trouble keeping 50% winrate in diamond, even if I tryhard I cannot fix all the stupid mistakes other people do. Its suprising how many people in diamond dont have basic map awareness, run useless builds or refuse to relog to a different class if there are too many of one class (say 3 thieves for example)

i’ve won matches with people on my team who dont have map awareness, i went on huge win streaks using builds that people like you call “useless” and i’ve won matches with 3 thieves on my team and lost vs a team of 4 non-premade mesmers

so im gonna risk saying that its probably your negative attitude and lack of game knowledge holding you back rather than anyone’s mmr carrying them

Basically you can camp at close if your MMR is high enough.
Also I cant have any positive attitude about this pvp matchmaking, it is just turning me into a misanthrope when I meet all these people who waste my pips. This is definitely the worst one out of the 3 seasons and I thought it couldnt get worse after S2.

Yes, matchmaking is terribad. Just had a duoQ in team again with saphire+diamond and we had to fight against a full premade. Needless to say we lost.

Yasha.5963:

Malediktus.9250:

I love when people who got carried by their absurdly high MMR post their screenshots. If you have such high MMR you can literally go afk on close whole game and still win most of your games.

I don’t understand why a high MMR makes a difference?

If you have high MMR it tries to put you in team with other people with high MMR. If you have low MMR it tries to put you into teams with other low MMR people. So the end result is low MMR vs high MMR matches because the pvp population is too small to offer high MMR vs high MMR matches