Guild Wars 2

Dr Gonzo.6259:

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

You forgot the most important thing:

Let us play hotjoin again while waiting for a queue pop.

Hell not only that but just let us queue while outside of HotM in general, god kitten I hate HotM now, I’ve never been stuck in 1 small pointless area for longer in any MMO, but I love the pvp so I have no choice

Seriously A-net, the whole “You might get a queue pop on a loading screen” excuse is not a good enough reason, sure maybe 1-2% of the time you might have 1 guy drop out and it will suck, but the ability to do ANYTHING other than hop around HotM and smack golems while waiting vastly outweighs this issue. Add to your list OP cause this needs to change, and you’ve got some good stuff here!

If you can queue for WvW in the PvE environment you should be able to queue for PvP.

You’d think we’d get Resistance too.

The Gates Assassin.9827:

Hello guardians! Lets take a break from murdering my face with burning and talk about how you guys are liking the new traits. Feel free to either directly answer my questions or just talk about what you feel is important for the devs to know about these changes.

Questions:

1. Are you using the new elites at all? I’ve heard from a few guardians that they’re having trouble dropping Renewed Focus for the new ones because RF is just that good.
2. Any new builds besides bunker and power medi? Anyone make a spirit weapon build that’s actually good? I am well aware of your lovely burn build >_<.
3. Has anyone made a good symbols build?
4. Overall, are you happy with the build diversity that guardians have right now?

1. I love “Feel My Wrath”, a great elite that gives support to others, and helpful to a single Guardian. I’ve tried the Signet of Courage and it’s eh. It doesn’t really feel all that elite to me. If it healed me and my allies or healed allies and granted a boon(s) on some interval that would feel elite. Right now it feels like the tomes, a cute gimmick but nothing I’d ever run. In pvp I’ve been running “Feel My Wrath” and it is helpful in team fights, but I do miss RF. I figure it’s just a play style change though and I’ll get use to it.

2. In PvP I don’t feel like there are other builds that stand a chance outside of Practice or Unranked. We still get out-bunkered. Burn and Medi are the go to builds which I guess is an improvement over just Medi. As people have mentioned before we could use more amulet options.
I also feel our less than spectacular trait choices are hurting variety. Shattered Aegis is not a a grandmaster trait and putting it there really just narrows the build choices we have. Poor or underwhelming traits don’t expand build diversity, they hurt it.

3. I haven’t tried a symbol build. In pvp getting someone to stand in a symbol isn’t easy. By the way, why isn’t Smite a symbol? Make Smite a symbol and you’ll see symbol builds.

4. Burn builds aren’t laughed at any more, but we’re pretty much in the same spot we were before the patch. We’re neither the best nor the worst. Though I don’t know if that puts in a good spot or not.

Edited for clarity and grammar (probably missed some spots still though).

Had a chance to play the build a little. Went to GS because of the faster attack speed. Boons, especially elite, can change the balance of a team fight quickly in my team’s favor. Can’t take out anyone out in a 1v2, but can stall for a long enough time for help to arrive.

Thanks for the feedback.
I replaced Radiance with Valor and played around with my rune sets a little. Divinty runes provided pretty good stats, but Traveler gave my boons an increase in duration. Still a work in progress, and I’m at work so I can’t test, but here is the lastest incarnation.

Considering hammer over sword, but I’m not really sure yet.

Feedback is welcome.

http://intothemists.com/calc/index.php?build=VBBdg;1NFF40M3NGV90;9;4PnQ;0056246148;4INl3L;1sV2DsV2Da0U

Okay, so I’ve been playing around with different builds. I really like the burning builds and Mediation builds, but also feel like there has to be room for more. I put this shout build together. Feedback is welcome. It is more of a support type build, but might be able to do decent in 1v1 I have to test it.

http://www.intothemists.com/calc/index.php?build=VBg-Bd;0JFF40M3NGV90;9;4POQ;0056156048;4INl3L;1ZF18ZF18a0Q

Been using “Feel My Wrath” and loving it. It is great in team fights and I feel let’s me bring Absolute Resolution for the added cleanse. Been running (taken from another thread):
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-Bg-3d;0NFF60933GV90;9;4NOQ;0158046246;4E7ZFE;15NV05NV01j

I know I should be running torch, but I am finding the extra blocks very helpful. Maybe it’s my noobishness.

Arcaedus.7290:

I’ve only tested sigil of ice a little bit, but in my opinion, sigil of hydromancy is much more useful:

-It does damage (about 1.2k crit on a fairly offensive power based build)
-Same cooldown
-Longer chill duration.
-Controllable, happens on weapon swap, not randomly while attacking enemies.

If they buffed sigil of ice to have a 7 second cooldown, it might be worth taking.

I agree Sigil of Hydromancy is a good way to keep enemies near. It has a 100% chance to give Chill and can be a great combo if you trait for hammer to have chill.

I’ve mixed Zeker and Carrion. It’s still pve and pretty much anything works especially if you do a lot of big events or run with a group.

Though, I’ve found I like the mix in WvW too.

So HoT takes place after the death of Zhaitan. The core game’s personal story is about killing Zhaitan. If I make a new character after purchasing HoT will my Revenant, a class didn’t exist until after Zhaitan’s death, have to do the core game personal story or will HoT characters get a new personal story based on Mordremoth?

khani.4786:

Yeah guard burning might need to be toned down a little (don’t make it useless like it was though).

At Shatterer, full zerk gear, traited for burning, 25 stacks of might and I was getting 2k-2.5k burn ticks. With all of my gear being zerk, I’d expect a bit less than that. It’s good mind you and I love being able to dish out whopping amounts of damage (that’s why I played a fire aura tank in CoH…I like being godlike). Just be gentle with the toning down.

And since I don’t see it often enough. Thank you Jon (& others) for openly communicating with what’s going on and what you’re all currently thinking about.

Good pve burn from a guard makes up for a more than lack luster trait lines though.

I’m more concerned with pvp aspects. The pve issues feel simple. Increase the health pool of enemies to counteract increase in damage. PvP you can’t do that. You have to separately balance. I wouldn’t mind a slight tone down of conditions in pvp.

Some more ideas for traits lines for Guardians see here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Top-4-Things-Anet-should-change-before-Patch/first#post5185276.

My biggest concern is PvP there have been enough issue with match-making and the ladder system that I would really like to see some balance soon.

Shiki.7148:

Mysticjedi.6053:

Things I’ve seen:
New Guardian elite signet isn’t being affected by the signet traits; would be nice if Guardian was affected by the signet as well.,

In pvp, conditions are destroying small health pool classes forcing players to use condition cleansing utilities just to try to survive. This will affect build variety. Suggestion- All classes should be able to use resistance like what you did when you introduced torment .

In pvp Guardian is feeling a little “eh”. Low health pool + high condition damage = a lot of insta-deaths. A lot of the traits feel pretty useless for Guardian. Dedicating a whole line just for the meditations, but really having nothing great in there besides meditations feels like a waste.

I did notice that in pve my burning damage as guardian is high. I think the way I’m geared I do 980 burning damage per tick and every 3 attacks.

I have to say, people actually having to bring condi clears is a positive change. If you do not have to do that, that just means conditions are worse in every way than power-damage. Also in higher sPvP and in a tournament-style environment that might make players who focus on support viable. Sure it is too strong right now, but if it comes to the point that condi clears are no longer needed again, Anet failed to balance the conditions properly.

But if you’re feeling forced to equip skills that aren’t as good as others just to survive then you’re just forcing people to run sub-optimal builds.
I feel people should bring at least one condi cleanse, but feeling like you have to run more will just swing the meta into a different kind of forced play. There are always some utilities that just don’t fit certain game types, but in my mind a balanced meta is one where you don’t have to feel like if you don’t use X utility you’ll die. That’s just my opinion though.

Things I’ve seen:
New Guardian elite signet isn’t being affected by the signet traits; would be nice if Guardian was affected by the signet as well.,

In pvp, conditions are destroying small health pool classes forcing players to use condition cleansing utilities just to try to survive. This will affect build variety. Suggestion- All classes should be able to use resistance like what you did when you introduced torment .

In pvp Guardian is feeling a little “eh”. Low health pool + high condition damage = a lot of insta-deaths. A lot of the traits feel pretty useless for Guardian. Dedicating a whole line just for the meditations, but really having nothing great in there besides meditations feels like a waste.

Others like deal more damage in symbol and symbols last longer feel like they can be combined. The internal cooldown on Might of the Protector and Amplified Wrath is just annoying. Guardians are supposed to punish random attacks blocks and retaliation is how we do that and you take away the very purpose of why a Guardian would go into battle by rewarding people fighting Guardians for their ill-timed attacks.

Excited for some changes. Kind of bummed about what is going to happen to Guardians, which is really nothing much compared to other classes. I am usually very very positive about the game (fanboy status) but I’m worried about the guardian changes. Guess I’ll find out on Tuesday though.

Asmodal.6489:

If might of the Protector had 3 stacks i could live with it. Burn After block world be VERY
strong but looking at other classes. They got hefty Stuff too.

I like this idea. I would be okay with icd if we got 2-3 stacks of might or 2-3 stacks of burning. Currently 1:1 ratio just feels like a rip off because you’re not going to get much for well placed blocks.

Please remove the 1 icd on Amplified Wrath and Might of the Protector. Both currently punish skillful play.

Divide people up based on MMR and create tiers and let us play PvE while wait in the longer queues.

I never show my rank emote finisher. It either a special or the the standard spike. When I started doing that I got a lot less hate whispers. No one knows if I’m noob or a veteran based on my finisher then. It is also helpful because I have an inconsistent play style so sometimes I do play like a noob and other times I rock the field so it keeps people guessing. Those could all be reasons or it could be that I just log on during times when vicious people who take a virtual game way to seriously are playing something else.

It can mean the loss of range which can be a big down side, but I have found running Mace with 6/2/6/0/0 version can also be very good in 1v1 and has limited potential in 1v2 battles. I have run GS and Mace/Focus.

Okay, so I know the test ladder just ended, but I was wondering if devs could tell us what you learned from the season. Not what you’re planning on doing with the information, just curious about the lessons you learned from the data you gathered and some of the debates going on about PvP.

I do not want a sneak peak of what to come, because you don’t do that. Just a general reflection would be very interesting knowing that everything written is a reflection and not a commitment of change.

Remember leaderboard rank doesn’t equal skill. Matchmaking believes everything comes out equal with MMR which is why a high MMR can be matched with a low MMR.

Title pretty much says it all. I want to be able to pre-order a digital version of the HoT. Thank you.

Rumor I’ve heard is that necros are getting shouts. I bet the elite that gives 6 shouts is theirs.

Guardians are supposed to be the magical warriors too, I see them playing that side up. Just because Mesmers got wells doesn’t mean we can’t either, though admittedly it is less likely.
Maybe we’ll get an F4 that does something like an elementatlist attunement, just not elemental.
Interesting side note, when I searched magical bows a lot of them seem to cause fear in their enemies. Maybe we’ll work around conditions other than burning.

33 and played since beta.
Wife is 32 and has played for a little over a year.
A 30 year old cousin plays.
My brother is 27 and has played for 6 months.
I have some nieces and nephews that play too.
Both my daughters have characters that they play around with.

Not only do older people play, but the game brings families together. Nothing like a Friday night dungeon raid with good ol’uncle Karm.

Anyone else experiencing massive lag spikes tonight? It got so bad, I just logged off. Normally, I run really smooth so it was kind of surprising.

Nanashi.6297:

sry for hijacking this thread but I’m at a similar point.

I can’t win more than 1 of 5 games for my life…

I just want to get back to even w/l and stop playing my ele but I kittening CANT >.< every time I get lucky I remove like 3 losses and then I just lose 6 games in a row and I’m even further away from my target than before (today I started with 9 more losses. now I’m at 18 more losses :< I even fought myself back from -14 to -9 before I went on that losing rampage >.<)

I dont really want to play in a team because that will make it just harder considering the chances to play against a team are higher when you queue as a team >.> or is that really my only chance?

I really kittening hate having a negative win rate. even is just fine but I’ll never achieve that as it seems. Man I’m just an average player but I refuse to believe that I’m actually that bad that I cant even get a 0.5 win ratio

edit: also please be a bit more accurate than “L2P”. I already know that much.

edit2: might anybody know good guides for strategies on each map? everything I find with google is most likely outdated (all articles read like they were written shortly after release talking about tournaments, tickets for said tournaments etc). I have a basic idea of each map but I’m still struggling figuring out when to go for certain objectives like creatures on forest(some people go for it after getting keep, some don’t go for them at all >.> really not easy to get a good conclusion by just playing).

I am in the same boat as you. I quit playing pvp about a week ago and gone to PvE boss battles, dungeons, and the occasional WvW. It isn’t the same, but I actually enjoy playing the game again. I suggest taking a small break.

This twisted ordeal of a test season will be over soon, and I’m hoping some kind of fix will be implemented that will make pvp enjoyable. I don’t expect to win every game, but do expect good games (ones that are even and where skill matters and not just who has the most turrent engineers or is a premade).

Edit: I’ve gone through a lot of the guides and it still didn’t make a huge difference. QQ More is a good source, but reading up on strategy, while important, won’t fix the imbalance in team comps, team numbers, or being set against the whole spectrum of skill range.

Drennon.7190:

I found that using a highly offensive build was more successful at defending than a bunker/cleric build. I could burst door breaks down and then the enemy team simply could not enter our base. Going bunker style allows them into the base and then you’re trying to support NPCs against other players/mobs. Healing in GW2 is just not strong enough to make going bunker a valuable choice in stronghold.

I found the same thing to be true. A strong offensive build just did better on defense. I did see some more bunkish guards do a nice job when it came to defending the lord though.

My wife has actually suggested I stop pvp because she has watched my matches and has said people are just stupid. I think it is one thing to be frustrated when you play. It is another when someone else watching sees the really poor match ups.

Silverwastes here I come. I will check back in a few weeks to see if things have gotten better or hope stronghold will be better than conquest.

My experience tonight:
Game 1: I was on a five man PUG guardian team, it didn’t end well
Game 2: Against 3 turret Engineers and players over extended
Game 3: player dc’d
Game 4: players over extended even when we had lost home.

I’m not that great of a player, but I’ve still enjoyed pvp up until this latest test season. I know Anet needs data, but these match-ups are just too aggravating. Sorry Anet, but I’m going to take a little break from pvp.

Some are talking about queue times. If your queue goes over 5 minutes I would abandon because that match won’t be good. Just some advice.

I agree we need a build saver and we need leagues. I don’t do many dungeons, so I have not comment.

Looking forward to this beta.

Turrent Engineers, imo, won’t be a problem.

I could see not being put on the same team as a blocked person, but that shouldn’t stop the matchmaking from setting you up against them.

Would be nice if pvp had set up a system like WvW where you can’t talk to your opponents, at least through map chat. Whispers or Say seems reasonable though. Probably impossible, but limit verbal abuse from other team. Then again haters goin’ to hate.

Will specializations give us new weapon skills with “old” weapons along with new utilities and elites?

I would like to see an improvement on this system, so I know better how I have contributed or hurt my team.

Even if you played with me in a game and you were wondering what hell I was thinking and have advice for what you think I should have done. I will take it.

Any high level players/ pros holding training time for pvp players? I can’t buy a win right now. There might be 4 other people, but I know I’m to blame too, and I’m not seeing my mistakes. If any plan on holding training/ advice sessions please post here. I would love to know what I’m doing wrong.

Combat. I love the combat system. It is the only thing that keeps me going. If I start thinking about matchmaking or leaderboards I just too upset, so I really only think about them on the forums in the hopes a dev will hear that this test needs new “questions”.

@GoogleBrandon: My better half tried pvp and just didn’t like it. That is why she is the better half she is smart enough to realize a broken system and enjoy combat in pve. I’m just not that smart.

I’ve been whispered some pretty nasty stuff usually involving cancer and me not getting along. I’ve tried to respond to ask why anyone would want to say something like that, but found I was blocked. I would be lying if I said it didn’t bug me. I like your idea.

Right now my solution is to report. If it happens twice, I log off for the day. I’ve only once run into the same abusive person twice. I will occasionally run into players who get really annoyed, but I can let that slide because I’ve seen them enough in pvp that I know they are annoyed or just really frustrated and it isn’t about me, or at least I use to before the changes. Now I hardly ever get paired with regular people. Good for variety, but sometimes not as fun.

Overall, it is never about the person being insulted it’s about people putting too much personal self worth in a game or people not knowing where to vent their frustration. I don’t feel these people would say any of these things to another’s face, but through chat it is, for some reason, okay.

After a really bad loss it is easy for me to think this too. I have found a few things to be true about matchmaking that might help. If you’re in queue for more than 3 minutes abandon all hope of getting a good match. If your queue pops in under 3 minutes the likelihood of having a good match is much much higher. Those are the nights you want to play as many matches as you can. The other nights WvW or PvE because PvP is going to be awful. Right now 2 out of 7 nights are usually awful for me.

My experience though means I still have to play a huge amount of games to be on the leaderboard. I might have a 60% win percentage (I don’t right now, but I’ve had one before), but because I only play 3-5 games a day I’m never going to get higher than the person who plays 10- 20 games because they will play enough to get more points in the end. The leaderboard sorts amount of time spent and not skill. Even if the OP’s idea put everyone at 50% it would be better than the current system. Just my opinion.

hackks.3687:

1. Stop using Match Making as a fix-all for a compete lack of infrastructure
2. Protect the player experience and improve player retention. Give us hard filters in the form of brackets or tiers to keep new players and veterans from playing together. Barriers to entry are not always a bad thing.
3. Fix the scoring and rewards so that they actually promote playing the game correctly, and then reward players for doing so with actual PvP rewards and not just PvE garbage.

^ these, especially #2.

Block and move on is the only thing that makes sense to do. Engaging people like that generally believe they are right and amazing players. Just hope you don’t get placed with them.

Nyx.7342:

Since the leaderboard change my matches have been getting worse..

^ this is pretty much how I feel. I’m consistently inconsistent, but have really liked the matches I’ve been put in until this last patch. It is very frustrating. I know it is test, but it is frustrating test especially since the path notes from the 20th aren’t available to be viewed. I would feel better if I knew more about what was done, because I really don’t like the state of this testing patch.

Looking at the leader board there are still people with under 50% win percentage. I thought percentage was going to be weighted into the rankings? Seems to me it should look at points and percentage. If you have a lot of points, but under 50% win percentage you shouldn’t be top 100 otherwise it is just the same old grind boards.

Not about the game, I love the game.

Just bought some shadow dyes from the gem store. The first time I’ve ever bought dyes. I thought I was going to get some cool shadow dyes. I got 4 commons and an uncommon and I had all but one of them already. I’m don’t mind range for things that are in the game, and black lion chests which are an advertised crap shoot, but I thought I was going to get shadow dyes not ones I already owned.

Oh well, lesson learned. At least I bought the gems with gold and not real life money. I would be seriously kittened off then.

Okay, I’m rather upset about this last update. I have two account on two different computers. One account will load the game, but then will freeze in windowed view make the entire cpu unresponsive (Anthlon 64×2). The other (i7) is completely spazzing out right now stuck at 1% and saying connection problems detected.

What is the deal?

I know neither issue is with my computer, so when will this be fixed?

No single class decides a match. The player’s ability to rotate or read a mini-map to see where they are most useful does.