Guild Wars 2

Norn-human relationships aren’t unknown, there’s a quest line in GW1 EotN where a norn wants to marry you (male or female to be opposite of your character’s sex) and you have to go out and kill a big beast so that your legend is greater than theirs and it would ‘shame’ you to marry them, thus you get out of it.

Yeah, Kryta’s always under attack from undead, it’s kinda rediculous. But there’s no question that Prophecies was the beginning of humanity’s end in Tyria, but our actions then made it so that humanity at least survived this long. If it wasn’t for us Rurik would have gotten killed somewhere in Surmia, meaning that there would have been no ascalonian refugees to get through the shiverpeaks. Not to mention Kryta still being under the control of the Mursaat (saying that they did not just kill off humanity through sacrificial cullings)

True, and it most likely has a similar situation as the Temple of Ages, which stood over a swamp for centuries and is suddenly now underneith.

I definitely see what you mean by the possible eye reference (Janthir). So, if this were the case, it really does not matter which direction Saul went, because their civilization would not be located in Tyria, but somewhere beyond. This leads to many questions about perhaps how the Titans wouldn’t have been able to gain access to the Mursaat through other means, but then again we have really little understanding of how the Mists work in general. It could be that getting from the foundry of failed creations to the Mursaat “homeland” would be as difficult as swimming across an ocean, whereas if there was a portal connecting their realm to Tyria, the invasion of Tyria would be similar to crossing a bridge, rather than swimming across. Interestingly enough, when we think about it, the Titans didn’t honestly care a bit about the mursaat, their only standing orders from Abaddon was to destroy Arah, in which they succeeded. The only reason that they attacked the mursaat was because of being controlled by Khilbron, and being ordered to hunt down their remnants. Course I also wonder what made it so that the Titans were so easily able to trample over the mursaat, while the humans were able to hold off attacks from the titans, including an invasion of the original Lion’s Arch.

Any evidence of dwarves existing outside of Tyria was found within areas where there had been no dwarves for centuries or more.

I would also like to point out that as far as we know Zhaitan, from concept art, is the only dragon so far to be made of flesh and bone. All the other dragons seem to be made of much tougher stuff, with the exception of bubbles because of the lack of knowledge as to his actual form.

Well, based on general anatomy, the bony structure seems to represent more of a spine or possible neck than, say, his belly, or his leg (lord if that is just a leg we’re in for trouble) this being said there is nothing stating that this is his back. Though it would make sense that in general most creatures, when sleeping, sleep with their back to the air because this is their least vulnerable part. Also, perhaps it is just the coloration of my computer screen, but I honestly do not see anything of blue when I look at the image, or the object in game.

Or perhaps Ogden underwent the ritual, but was able to cast some sort of enchantment, allowing him to keep his mind unchanged, but also allowing him to last through the years and eventually help the races against the greater threat of the Elder dragons.

No, but the city itself was quite a bit lower than the land outside. I remember specifically walking up out of the city and off north many times to farm War in Kryta bounties for Oppressor’s Weapons. It seems that a good part of these cliffs can be explained as merely sediment being washed into the area over 250 years, and also perhaps backwash from when the tsunami waters receeded. They more than likely washed away sediment from the nearby hills and settled it down around the foundations of the Lion’s Arch Keep, and eventually covering most of it.

Interesting thought, we have no clue what this phasing out consists of. But perhaps they were literally outside of Tyria, and they built a culture and civilization outside of Tyria that they live within. Then the question comes about as to how Saul found this civilization, and I would say that perhaps there was some sort of portal that he stumbled upon to give access. Again, pure speculation, but there is reference to them phasing out of Tyria and returning to Tyria. Although if they did get phased out entirely then why would they fear any problems from the Titans? questions, questions, questions, lol.

From what Ree Soesbee has said there are no more living normal dwarves. The ritual of the great dwarf was a trigger for the end of the dwarves. In the end all dwarves undertook the ritual in one sense or another, even the stone summit. This was described as an urge or need caused by the magic. Once they undertook the ritual they became part of the hive mind of the dwarven nation which seemed to turn them to an aggressive force against the Elder Dragons, specifically Primordius. More than likely, other than Ogden, all stone dwarves are now in the depths of Tyria fighting off the destroyers with all their strength.

http://www.talktyria.net/2011/08/11/sylvari-lore-interview-with-ree-soesbee-kristen-perry/

Near the end of this article they talk about the dwarves all partaking in the ritual.

Since these characters were seen throughout the world there is a good chance that their final resting places may not even be in the mainland Tyria.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Sorrow’s Embrace cinematic shows Kralkatorrik up close, mind you in concept art – he’s teal/light blue.

Furthermore, we see him in light blue during GW1, in the Charr Homelands.

I remember his back as being a grey/black in the charr homelands, and as far as dungeons go I have not played any because of not being able to find good groups to finish them.

Just because these beams worked against Zhaitan does not mean that they would be equally effective against the other Elder Dragons. I mean obviously Bubbles and Primordius would be difficult to deal with from an aerial perspective. Following that the make-up of Jormag and Kralkatorrik are completely different from Zhaitan, being made of differing elements. When it comes to Jormag there is the definite need to find some way to protect the minds of pact members, cause the laser would do no good if all it’s operators are turned against us merely by looking into Jormag’s eyes. Similarly with Kralkatorrik has the ability to corrupt the environment to a greater extent than Zhaitan, so there is the possibility that he could take down the laser before it can shoot him. The other issue with Kralkatorrik, was the ability of him to disappear into storms, making targeting him extremely difficult and using airships would leave one extremely exposed to his breath. In other words, there is definitely problems to deal with when it comes to each new dragon, there is very little chance that each battle will be the same.

Yeah, being a primarily underground race, until the catacombs collapsed apparently trapping them above ground, I would assume that they found some way to get back into places that they prefer. But honestly there is absolutely no reason for their disappearance as far as timeline is concerned, they disappeared somewhere between Jormag’s and Zhaitan’s awakening. The only thing on the timeline even near this year is the death of Ventari, which is hardly connected.

Well there is a personal story mission at lvl 30 that everyone goes through that gives some background as to the hate between each of the characters, also I usually just talk to everyone with a name to get any information I can. I know it can be a bit redundant, but it usually has some great gains to be made in our knowledge of the areas we are in.

Yeah, Ghosts of Ascalon and Edge of Destiny are real physical books that you can buy for more information on the game world.

Yet why should the Battle Isles re-emerge when areas such as Lion’s Arch never did? I am not saying it couldn’t, but a very large amount of land did stay underwater because of the rising of Orr.

Interesting, I had always read the Bonus Mission Pack as the Maguuma Jungle, but now that I look to the first page it merely says jungle.

The only thing that now points to the Maguuma is the whole possible anagram of Rata Sum + Riven Earth = Mursaat Thrive Near. But this is entirely speculation.

Other than that she kept a skull with her that she talked to and named Adam, I know nothing.

If you want to read about it I believe that there is a topic already on this forum about people finding locations from GW1 inside of GW2, check it out

I would like to point out that on this map, from what I can tell, there is no Isle of Janthir and also the Battle Isles are still above ground. Now on the Battle Isles it could just be assumed that they still exist by Tyrians because of the fact that no one can get there. But still this point towards the inaccuracy of the maps as well.

Yes, just remember that this was the past, and things are obviously much different now with skills being based on your weapon sets and such. Signets may still be that way, but there is no posted evidence of this.

If I remember right the problems in Fahranur happened because of Kormir, not Varesh. The only ritual stuff we know about to deal with Kournans was when Varesh’s general was stopped in Bogroot Growths.

Another option is that the fact that we have yet to find the Mursaat cities is that perhaps they have found a way to phase them and make them invisible to others as well.

Well, a being that is 1,000 feet tall has to have a massive wingspan to support the weight and keep it aloft, assuming that they use the regular laws of physics as opposed to magic to fly.

If we are going to talk about what the gods represent each I would say that instead of going through Glint’s Facets we go with the facets of the gods that we find in Kerrsh’s quests.

In these quests you kill facets of the gods to gain ciphers to better understand their part in the world, and the eternal alchemy. The Facets go as such:

Facet of Spirit – Kormir
Facet of Destruction – Balthazar
Facet of Existence – Dwayna
Facet of Death – Grenth
Facet of Illusions – Lyssa
Facet of Creation – Melandru

I want to point out here that I do not see any references to the Dragons in these descriptors, except for the weak connection to death and undeath. I mean all of the dragons are destroying creation and wiping out existence, and there are none that provide the opposite of destruction, while all of them are causing large swaths of destruction.

Also Konig, I don’t remember ever hearing the description of what color he was, only what color the dragon’s blood was. Also the golden aspect was his breath, with which he corrupted living beings.

Sadly I can’t speak to it anymore because of the fact that I have not actually fought Zhaitan.

I was gonna say the same thing. Honestly 250 years just means he hasn’t been seen between Guild Wars 1 and Guild Wars 2. I wouldn’t take things any further than that.

Honestly I would consider this map to be around as accurate as maps from the late renaissance perhaps closer to the American revolutionary era (considering certain races’ advanced technology). But honestly if you view such maps you will see Europe is extremely well defined, but the further out you get from Europe the more inaccuracies appear. I would view this Tyrian map to be similar, I mean Tyrians can only create maps from a ground perspective, we have no evidence of them having the ability to create satellites like we have today to give us the world as it truly is.

You know this kinda makes me think of the Chronicles of Narnia where you read a few books about the epic adventures in Narnia, then you learn that it is only a relatively small country on the outlying border of a larger world power. I am interested to see what has been going on with the rest of the world, if it is even an option.

There’s no doubt he’s massive, but I don’t believe that he is as large as he’s made out to be in the original concept art. I am excited to see Kralkatorrik when the battle against him commences, cause in the book he is described as a mile at least in 1 direction, can’t remember if it’s head to tail or wingspan.

I’d do that anyday

The 5 against 6 had to deal with the previous cycle of dragons, in which there were only 5 known races to fight against the dragons. These races were the dwarves, mursaat, Seer, forgotten, and jotun.

It is very obvious that there are at least 10 races probably taking part in this battle. Between the main 5, the hylek, tengu, skritt, quaggan, and I’m sure more (not counting Krait or Dredge because of their general tendency to hurt rather than help the fight against the dragons.

Not to mention the wizard’s tower in Garrenhoff has been greatly ‘renovated’ from it’s evil medieval look

Although a large amount of the art and such fits much of the Tarnished Coast area, perhaps a sign that the people of Utopia once existed on Tyria?

You know I completely forgot about that, perhaps he wasn’t the one that left Lyssa, but perhaps Lyssa left him to side with the other gods.

There is still a good portion of the globe that we have no been able to visit. I would not be surprised.

Oh, believe me I have about half of the original GW1 wiki memorized, I would literally sit some days and click the random page for hours just reading up on everything I could.

The material definitely looked similar to the roofs on the dwarven houses, but much of their architecture when it came to walls and towers used wood instead of stone or metal (whatever it may be) This makes me wonder if it wasn’t some remnant of one of the ancient races, though it doesn’t appear like jotun style, from what little we’ve seen, nor does it appear to be created by the forgotten, assuming the structures in the crystal desert were created by the forgotten.

I want to have an entire library of creature codex’s, history books, religious books, and just lore in general all inside of my little bank. Or since I’m a Magister I’m sure the Durmand Priory wouldn’t mind holding all that info for me, perhaps my own personal library space within :P. I mean I am commander of the pact…

I have honestly always loved that tower and wished to know who created, it definitely wasn’t anything Ascalonian by normal standards.

No, honestly the fact that people hate certain races means that ArenaNet is doing things right. Because not everyone is going to like everyone, so it becomes more realistic when certain races are just unbearable.

Yeah, almost right after I posted what I did the idea came to my mind that perhaps it is the same sort of situation as Jora and Svanir.

The snow troll attack itself, the troll crouches down and frost and ice gathers around it. Then the creature extends itself upwards and the ice explodes through an AoE area.

True, if an elder dragon went to sleep for 10,000 years why would it decend into the form of a seed and require to be planted and reborn. It makes no sense, especially since the other Elder Dragons stayed in their regular form it would be very weak to fight against them, should the need arise.

Blah, please no!

I don’t think tengu will be a playable race until we go to Cantha, which may be a long ways away. And I never stated that I believed that the quaggan would be a playable race, I just don’t see it, but I still love them. They were definitely my race to study back in the racial sympathy quest. I just can’t get my head around liking the skritt, they’ve just annoyed me so much in the past.

Yeah, I was kinda sad that when I got there the second gravestone wouldn’t work for me. Has anyone noticed that the dredge seem to have a tendency to name their new mines after Guild Wars 1 dwarven mines? I found Copperhammer Mines in Dredgehaunt, but this is in a location that doesn’t correlate to the Guild Wars 1 outpost. Similarly they also named an underwater mine Iron Horse mine up in Frostgorge Sound.

Also, you can find a norn settlement up in Frostgorge Sound built on top of Yak’s Bend, and the area is called Yakkington’s Toil.

1. Quaggan
2. Skritt

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And sometimes if you laughed you also died, if it made him laugh in return :P