Guild Wars 2

Amaimon.7823:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

• Not all individuals are trained to fight or use magic, though all can innately use magic.
• NPCs are not bound by mechanics of armor and weapon restrictions. NPCs can use whatever they want.

As such, I would argue Caudecus simply doesn’t have a profession. He isn’t the kind of person to fight himself, but to use others to fight his battle. He doesn’t seem to be trained in magic – if he was, he would have used it against us in Episode 1 rather than just ordering others around. And he more than likely isn’t trained in any but the most basic of swordplay (the kind of swordplay you’d see in official noble dueling – in other words, a mockery of actual combat; kids play).

So his profession? IMO: “None.”

fair enough, he propably carries a sword and gun to kill people as he runs away.
but I do think he would be a better duellist than Faren

I don’t know, with all of his a jungle experience, Lord Faren might be a better dueling ????

Thank you. I could of sworn it was from an official source, but I could not find it on any of the wikis. I would say that whether or not it came directly from Kralkatorrik, there is a pretty strong chance that it was Tyrian magic, not some magic channeled from the Mists.

I hate to prod, but Daniel seems to state that the Searing was an act of Mists magic and not Tyrian magic, but isn’t it widely believed that the magic from the Searing was caused by Elder Dragon magic, specifically Kralkatorrik’s? This article seems to suggest it, though I do not know the exact source.

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Cauldron_of_Cataclysm

DR is by far my favorite racial capital, followed second by Hoelbrak, then The Grove, Rata Sum and The Black Citadel last.

It is always possible that Taimi is only partially right. That this new line of thinking leads her to the proper conclusions, but that the first conclusion was not 100% accurate. Like any scientific hypothesis, you must put it through testing. I mean, if all magic was Dragon magic, and death and plant magic cancel each other out, would they not cancel each other out when they meet in the open world? Then, we would not have a magic over abundance, because the magic could just all cancel itself out. There has to be more to magic, some sort of understanding dealing with perhaps the Dragon domains. Who knows. I doubt we’ll gain much info on it from this update, but perhaps the next.

Sock.2785:

Narcemus.1348

I know that this doesn’t mean anything, but the woman who is leading the genocide, her voice sounded very similar to Minister Estelle from Party Politics.

Good catch, that definitely seems to be her; this could imply that Minister Estelle might attempt to murder the Queen as soon as the siege starts (she’s been tasked with regicide, not genocide).

Ha yes. Fairly certain I typed regicide. Perhaps autocorrect, or perhaps my mind was distracted as I typed.

I know that this doesn’t mean anything, but the woman who is leading the genocide, her voice sounded very similar to Minister Estelle from Party Politics. At least if my memory serves me right.

All we know is that Livia was alive at the time of the founding of Lion’s Arch, and looking extremely young for her age. We also know that Anise is likely older than she looks based on a discussion between her and Canach at the World Summit. These two things could come together to mean that they are the same person, or it could mean something else entirely. I do want to note that I believe that while she was mentioned in the Sea of Sorrow’s book, the Scepter was not.

Sadly there is little to no hard lore about what has occurred to the currency in the game. We know that platinum does exist in the game, both in books and in game, but it seems to only exist among the richest of individuals. My favorite theory about the change of currency revolves around Lion’s Arch. When humans moved out and multiracial pirates and Zaishen moved in, the Pirates likely brought their own currency into the area, which consisted on gold, silver and copper coins in Guild Wars 1. Eventually as Lion’s Arch traded with all races and became a trade empire, it made the most sense to adopt their currency in order to ease trade.

Again, though, this is all just a series of guesses and such. So take it all with a grain of salt.

trianglecubed.3750:

Vayne.8563:

trianglecubed.3750:

Ah, thanks for the reminders Vayne.

I had totally forgotten about all that. Guess I didn’t think they were important enough to remember at the time.

And I only just realized I had no idea where they came from or how I knew them until today when I realized that I was traipsing around with these randos instead of Pact Soldiers.. which would only make sense.

Like you’d think I’d have the A-Team of the Pact.. but then, on that note… Why does it seem like the Pact doesn’t actually have any soldiers that know what they’re doing?

Like… How did we even kill Zhaitan?

I know, I know.. Airships.

Yet, on that note, why was our strategy for defeating Mortie to just.. FIRE RANDOMLY INTO THE JUNGLE?

Like.. who seriously thought that would work and why wasn’t I briefed on this strategy so I could tell them “Yeah, that’s not gonna work?”

I mean.. we’re not in the Federation here, we don’t have phasers and quantum torpedoes.. we have cannons.. and there were massive massive trees in the way of this dragon whom was known to be under the ground.

I feel like if I had been teamed up with Pact people and had taken a more proactive role in the pact instead of just being thought of as “the emergency stuff doer” that things would have gone.. a lot less… bad.

I legitimately feel like me joining up with these random people is actively hindering my ability to be anything other than the “hero of the hour.” That it actively hurts my reputation with the Pact soldiers and their morale, since I apparently would rather group up with a bunch of non-soldier civilians than with my own soldiers.

About that. Said civilians all feel very…

Special for the sake of being special, especially the super smart crippled kid that is allowed to go on mega-dangerous adventures.

Zhaitan was different than Mordremoth. First of all, for Zhaitan, we had already starved him, partially blinded him, and taken away his ability to make more undead in the story. And Trahearne was an expert on Orr. No one knew anything about Mordremoth. It was a complete unknown.

The other part of the Zhaitan equation isn’t airships. It was one very specific weapon, an anti-dragon magic ray developed by Professor Gor. If you don’t do that specific Asuran story you might not know about it (actually there are two stories with Gor) but we spent 10 levels of the personal story just weakening Zhaitan before we ever faced it, and then we had the technology made by Gor.

But Mordremoth controlled the jungle and the fleet never got near him.

There are smart people in the pact, but even smart people try to repeat stuff that worked the first time.

You mention doing what worked last time.

Why didn’t we?

You say it yourself, we did a ton of stuff before confronting Zhaitan. So why didn’t we do a ton of stuff before going after Mortie? Surely we should have actively tried to do the same things we did with Zhaitan, starve it, blind it, etc, etc. Why did we just go in cannons blazing and expect something to happen in our favor?

It doesn’t make sense. We had made virtually no preparations. I mean we had one dragon already awake and were able to do everything we did to it.. so surely having another one wake up wasn’t a huge deal if we could just go through and cripple it all over again.

The only thing we did is make a weak foothold and do our best to push in, darn the consequences, as if we were some nervous teen guy after prom.

So little sense. Why did any of the military professionals agree with this course of action considering what it took to actually take down Zhaitan?

I think that the big difference was that he just awoke. Because of this, he is going into minion making like crazy, and they hoped to weaken him early by destroying the blighting trees, his minion making factories.Trahearn mentions this in one story at least, if my memory serves me right. Plus they had no reason to believe that a plant elder Dragon could take out a fleet of air ships, or that 1/5 (roughly) of their troops would turn on them.

Amaimon.7823:

Narcemus.1348:

azureai.9764:

Tiefsee.3647:

Place the seed of the pale tree in orr….

Neat idea, but it’s somewhat impossible. Orr didn’t rise from the sea until 1219 AE. Ventari died near the fledgling Pale Tree in 1180 AE.
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This actually leads me to an interesting AU that I was banding about. What if Ventari didn’t die near the Pale Tree and didn’t leave the tablet?

The Pale Tree would have become Mordremoth’s minion, and started pumping out Sylvari much more like the Mordrem. Rata Sum and the humans would have had EVEN MORE dragon minions on their doorstep. In the case of the humans, I think that would spell Kryta’s doom.

The Pact, which was formed under the auspices of the Sylvari, would never have formed without someone the three Orders all came to trust. And without Trahearne, would anyone have noticed the oncoming invasion of Claw Island and Lion’s Arch?

Orr wasn’t completely sunken, just mostly, Livia went there to find the scepter of Orr to my understanding. Although the area was likely still full of Orrian undead making it an unlikely place for a bunch of passivists to go.

I find it incredibly unlikely that Ventari and his tablet is what kept the pale tree from becoming a blighting tree. Her freedom had to have come from elsewhere, otherwise we could reason with Dragon minions, but this is not the case. Though the Tablet likely had a huge impact on the Pale Tree’s outlook on the world and It would be interesting to know if she might have been more violent without Ventari’s influence.

Didnt we find the scepter of orr already in gw1? And then it got lost with the Lich kn the Ember Island chain. I did hear livia git it now, but i dont think it ever found its way back to orr, hardly considering it sank i doubt anyone would go there

We found the scepter in Kryta, gave it to the Khilbron and it was lost after we killed Khilbron in the Ring of Fire, but the cut scene specifically showed it being teleported away before the volcano erupted. In the epilogue of Eye of the North we see Livia finding it, and I thought I remembered reading that she found it in Orr, but I do not have a source on that.

azureai.9764:

Tiefsee.3647:

Place the seed of the pale tree in orr….

Neat idea, but it’s somewhat impossible. Orr didn’t rise from the sea until 1219 AE. Ventari died near the fledgling Pale Tree in 1180 AE.
_

This actually leads me to an interesting AU that I was banding about. What if Ventari didn’t die near the Pale Tree and didn’t leave the tablet?

The Pale Tree would have become Mordremoth’s minion, and started pumping out Sylvari much more like the Mordrem. Rata Sum and the humans would have had EVEN MORE dragon minions on their doorstep. In the case of the humans, I think that would spell Kryta’s doom.

The Pact, which was formed under the auspices of the Sylvari, would never have formed without someone the three Orders all came to trust. And without Trahearne, would anyone have noticed the oncoming invasion of Claw Island and Lion’s Arch?

Orr wasn’t completely sunken, just mostly, Livia went there to find the scepter of Orr to my understanding. Although the area was likely still full of Orrian undead making it an unlikely place for a bunch of passivists to go.

I find it incredibly unlikely that Ventari and his tablet is what kept the pale tree from becoming a blighting tree. Her freedom had to have come from elsewhere, otherwise we could reason with Dragon minions, but this is not the case. Though the Tablet likely had a huge impact on the Pale Tree’s outlook on the world and It would be interesting to know if she might have been more violent without Ventari’s influence.

Grover.8753:

Narcemus.1348:

The problem with this theory that the rightful heir is a charr is that the artifact that caused the Searing is human bound in nature, being made by the gods. It seems highly unlikely that a prophecy about a human used artifact would be about a charr. Not impossible, of course, just unlikely. Plus, you have to think about the fact that that the Charr took Ascalon. We don’t know who from, but their history speaks of spreading from North and West of the Blazeridge Mountains and moving into Ascalon, see Ecology of the Chart. So they weren’t the first rulers of Ascalon, and hold as much claim as humanity did.

Actually, the Searing was cause by magic from the Titans, which are created in the Realm of Torment and controlled by Abaddon (fallen god). I’m sure you meant the Foefire. Also, the Charr were in those territories long before humans arrived making any kind of claim by Humans irrelevant. If any the Forgotten would have laid claim but their history is too shrouded to say whether or not they were inhabiting the area at the time. They fought against the Charr at Blazeridge Mountain prior to humans arrival but other history says they arrived by the Gods before the humans. The Forgotten are originally from the mists so their place in Tyria is “out of place”. Giants and Jotuns… rock friend! They lack the intelligence and social structure.

We should also consider the Mursaat, dwarves, and the Seers. With Lazarus return to power though brings up other possibilities.

Apologies, you are correct. I had meant the Foefire, not the Searing.

The problem with this theory that the rightful heir is a charr is that the artifact that caused the Searing is human bound in nature, being made by the gods. It seems highly unlikely that a prophecy about a human used artifact would be about a charr. Not impossible, of course, just unlikely. Plus, you have to think about the fact that that the Charr took Ascalon. We don’t know who from, but their history speaks of spreading from North and West of the Blazeridge Mountains and moving into Ascalon, see Ecology of the Chart. So they weren’t the first rulers of Ascalon, and hold as much claim as humanity did.

There is no mention of the PC from Guild Wars 1, at least from the perspective of their final fate. I have to hope that it is intentional, allowing players to have their own personal stories.

Even though Guild Wars doesn’t always feel that way, there has been a lot of loss, war, and death. It isn’t hard to believe that the names of these places are named to reflect the sorrow that comes with that.

The dream of dreams may be a fact, but we know of no proof that states that the dream can prevent or reverse corruption. It is just as much of a far flung theory as any of the others, especially if the Sylvari are Dragon minions like most lore seems to state.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Narcemus.1348:

The thing is, as far as we can tell, Mordremoth never corrupted Sylvari that we see, he merely spoke into their minds and tried to influence their actions. We believe this because Dragon minions cannot escape the will of their master, but we see one Mordrem Guard that reverts after being far enough away that he cannot hear the call anymore. I personally believe that Sylvari incorruptability comes from some other currently unknown source, likely whatever freed a the Pale Tree from Mordremoth’s grasp.

Sylvari are not Corrupted and cannot be corrupted, they are Dragon Minions as stated in game and by Devs, they were created as Dragon Minions so there is nothing to corrupt. As stated in This Link

Just because one is corrupted doesn’t mean that another corruption cannot be laid on you, as is seen in CoE. We can fight all night long about whether that is proof that dragon minions can be corrupted multiple times or not, but what we cannot deny is that a being can have multiple layers of Dragon corruption on it without dying, this is not true with the Sylvari. This is why I believe that there is something more to the Pale Tree’s freedom from Mordremoth and the Sylvari’s capability to fight his call. Whether you believe it’s the Dream, or a Forgotten Cleansing Ritual, or something beyond all that, who knows.

The thing is, as far as we can tell, Mordremoth never corrupted Sylvari that we see, he merely spoke into their minds and tried to influence their actions. We believe this because Dragon minions cannot escape the will of their master, but we see one Mordrem Guard that reverts after being far enough away that he cannot hear the call anymore. I personally believe that Sylvari incorruptability comes from some other currently unknown source, likely whatever freed a the Pale Tree from Mordremoth’s grasp.

I didn’t recall “plant” being a descriptor originally, but I don’t have a source to prove me right, and the wiki says plant so I’ll just leave it for now.

I am curious where it was stated that the Seed that formed the Pale Tree was guarded by Mordrem. According to my memory, it was only stated that there were guardians, with no descriptors whatsoever. For all we know they could have been Forgotten enchanted weapons or armor. This is why, in my opinion, it seems most likely that they were seeds of lighting trees that were cleansed by forgotten, but my thoughts are just as speculative as any other.

Well, speaking as a person with a nearly full HoM in GW1, my HoM in GW2 is just as empty. Seeing that was pretty stinking disappointing.

Yeah, the problem is that these big epic world events were created to last for only 2 week periods of time and then the story would move on. It created frustration for people who weren’t able to get on and play the content, or when the content was difficult enough that if you didn’t get the right group you would constantly fail. It’s always been a bit of a nag to me that I never caught Mai Trin. They tried to create huge map events in this style in HoT, but the repeatability of it naturally makes it seem less epic, because the first time I played Dragon Stand it was a hugely epic struggle to build up your forces to try to kill an Elder Dragon, but the 20th time there just wasn’t much about it that was epic at all, it was just a repeat. So there is something to be said about making repeatable content within the game, but there is also something to be said about the epicness of limited stories. I’m sure that there is a compromise within there somewhere, ArenaNet just hasn’t made it yet.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Of course, we’re not even sure how or why Primordus can take in plant and death magic now when there was no death magic in any other dragon minion prior, and, most importantly, without knowing why or how the Elder Dragons cannot/do not simply “hijack” another Elder Dragon’s sphere of influence if they can usurp them after the Elder Dragon dies.

That is to say: why didn’t Primordus try to take death, crystal, and plant before Zhaitan, Kralkatorrik, and Mordremoth even woke up as they were last to wake and there were 100+ years between Primordus and Zhaitan alone (and 200+ between Primordus and both Kralkatorrik and Mordremoth)?

Same for the DSD.

I think the answer has to lie in the domains that are within The All. They must somehow reflect why and how only certain dragons hold certain magics and with the deaths of Zhaitan and Mordremoth the scales have been tipped. I firmly believe that the goal will someday be to reestablish those domains with new masters (Aurene, The Pale Tree, etc…) so as to bring balance back to Tyria. Obviously this must be done before another Dragon does, because I don’t know that Tyria could handle another dragon’s death.

I do not recall there being any sort of court system in Lion’s Arch, though the Captain’s Council fills that position when disputes need judged. I want to say that plays out in Sea of Sorrows, but I’m not 100% on that. The way that the jail scenario seems to work, though is that based on your crime you receive a billet or basically a debt to society that you need to pay off, or that someone could buy. In Edge of Destiny they are able to fight and take the winnings to pay off their billet, with Canach his billet was bought by Anise and he is now basically a slave to her until he has fulfilled his debt to her. There may be more information than this, but I’m at work and don’t have it on hand, I hope it helps though.

I have to say, it was an interesting thought to me that After Mordremoth died, the Mordrem Guard might be freed from the call and have to come to terms with what they have done. Perhaps offer to assault a Dragon as penance for their failure to hold off Mordremoth’s call. I had the awesome idea of coming upon a battle with dozen of the copies of Diarmid and Hareth in an all out war with another dragon’s minions. Sadly, with Rox’s statement that the remaining Mordrem Guard are more riled up than ever leaves me to believe that it is more of a case of Mordremoth leaving parts of his mind in their heads, though it could also be a case of, again, trying to cope with what they have done.

And here’s the thing. What the Mursaat see as a betrayal isn’t really a betrayal, it was a difference of opinion. I mean, the other races didn’t promise to come and fail to show up. They refused to join outright, and the Mursaat went through with it anyways and failed. That’s not a betrayal, it was making a bad choice.

Erukk.1408:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

They also seemingly retconned much of the Mursaat lore with those tablets in Ember’s Bay. Basically the Mursaat are the missunderstood good guys all of a sudden.

X. The Forgotten allied with Glint and ignored the now to focus on the future. We mursaat… we returned and built a base among the Fire Islands, as strong as ever. The world will one day be ours.

Yep. Totally misunderstood good guys…. >.>

They’re still a villainous race. Anet just tried to give them more reasosn on why a whole race might want to kill/enslave/rule everything. In there mind, they were the one’s betrayed. This is just their extended self-preservation/revenge scheme now.

Yet strangely enough they take their revenge on young races that were not even involved in the Dragon rise… seeing as after their return the only ancient race they attacked was the dwarves…

I’m surprised that this discussion is happening now, so long after the creation of Guild Wars 2. I mean all of this information about the Seers and the Elder Dragons changed Guild Wars’ Lore years ago. Why is this piece of information suddenly such a huge problem?

DuskyInsanePoet.4218:

-History is written by the winners.

In this case, history was written by the survivors. No one won during the last dragon rise…

I think, personally, that it’s far more likely that the cave full of seeds that Ronan found had somehow been purified already, before it was taken and brought to it’s current location.

I doubt the magic here is directly feeding Primordus, at least not intentionally. I think this volcano is just a natural confluence of key energy, which seems to be proven with the “rock face’s” description. Seeing as he seems to describe this magic as having been a problem with the volcano long before Primordus came to the region.

See, I find it personally more likely that the reason for the failure of the barrier was the inclusion of Mordremoth magic within the baby Dragon. I mean, we can see the effect of the magic in it’s appearance, it likely changed enough about the baby that the barrier no longer considered it the Legacy. It is likely that they hadn’t planned for an elder Dragon to have died before the egg hatched and grew, seeing as the Exalted hadn’t been prepared for Mordremoth.

We’ll, in all likelihood it must have existed in Guild Wars 1. I mean the island may not exist on the maps, but there is a Mursaat fortress there predating Guild Wars 1. I would chalk this island up to something along the lines of Southsun Cove. Something just recently discovered.

Perhaps Tyria and Earth are just not the same when it comes to seismic activity and volcanic activity? Most of the Volcanic activity we see in the world (the ring of fire islands) is located in a very magically active area, so perhaps it has more to do with magic than magma?

Well, it has already been theorized that the Gods were the Elder Dragons of the world that they came from. Perhaps they are a glimpse of what benevolent ED’s can look like, although it is worth mentioning that they abandoned that world… bringing humanity to Tyria and creating (or conquering, who knows) their own realms within the Mists.

I would disagree slightly since the charr are not a unified race. It would be more like refusing orders from a US ally that you are an emissary to. And if he is failing to do his job within the Iron Legion, it could well have been Brangar’s decision to revoke his title.

Originally when I heard this I was somewhat confused. I didn’t understand why it is that each Dragon only gets their own type of magic. I mean, Primordus was awake decades before the others, who what kept him from absorbing all of the magic. And obviously Zhaitan didn’t have all death magic inside of him when we fought him. I mean he was still collecting magic and he was starved by us during the campaign. This is when I started thinking about the All, and the spheres. I started to wonder if maybe what the spheres represented was a domain of magic, and it then showed the Dragon that held dominion over it. This would explain why Primordus didn’t consume death magic before Zhaitan awoke, because even though he wasn’t awake, he still held dominion over it and the other dragons could not touch it. But, when Zhaitan was killed, the magic domain was released and was masterless, thus it became free game to whoever wanted to claim some of it. This is actually kind of worrying, but it gives some hope. Perhaps, If the dragons claimed that domain in the past, we can find a way to transfer that dominion over to another creature, such as glint’s baby or possibly the Pale Tree. I have to wonder if that might not be Lazarus’ game. Getting us to kill Primordus while he is there and then claim Primordus’ domain of magic for himself…

I killed them all when vanquishing the island, sorry!

My sylvari necromancer was the Hero of Tyria, I mean he killed his evil creator (Mordremoth) what could be more heroic than that?

It has been stated, I believe, that mesmers do have the capability to alter reality to a degree, I mean it was outright stated that the Twisted Castle wkittentered by a mesmer juiced up on Bloodstone magic. That said, they do also do a vast majority of their work with minds. Like speeding up time is a very easy thing to do, you merely have to use mesmer magic to slow down your opponent’s perception of time, which makes it appear that you are moving faster than possible.

Daniel Handler.4816:

Narcemus.1348:

Daniel Handler.4816:

This seems like a weird idea. But would all Revenants already be considered ascended through Shiro?

I wouldn’t see how. Shiro was never Weh Su Noh that I know of, and definitely had no connection to ascension. Plus being able to tap into the power of an echo of someone’s last doesn’t necessarily give you access to all of their capabilities. I mean the Revenants using Glint’s or Mallyx’s powers are nowhere near as strong as the beings that they channel.

If all Emperors ascended to be Chosen, then wouldn’t Shiro gain that ability upon absorbing energy from the slain Emperor?

What Shiro absorbed from the emperor was a magical blessing from Dwayna to be bestowed upon Cantha, you know, better harvest, stuff like that. This was corrupted within him and became the Jade Wind upon his death. It had nothing to do with ascension or Weh Su Noh.

Daniel Handler.4816:

This seems like a weird idea. But would all Revenants already be considered ascended through Shiro?

I wouldn’t see how. Shiro was never Weh Su Noh that I know of, and definitely had no connection to ascension. Plus being able to tap into the power of an echo of someone’s last doesn’t necessarily give you access to all of their capabilities. I mean the Revenants using Glint’s or Mallyx’s powers are nowhere near as strong as the beings that they channel.

Sadly, though there are a few locations that study the stars and such, very little is actually given to us in the way of research, unless someone comes around and proves me wrong.

Randulf.7614:

They were going to do something during the original development, bu scrapped it at the last minute due to resources not being available to complete it and keep it going if memory serves me.

Doesn’t mean it’s not worth continuing to ask for!

I wish I had the bookshelf just so I can spend days scouring Tyria for all kinds of different books like I did in Skyrim…

That is an extremely big reason…

Interesting. I always saw it as an ingot, but I never looked at it that closely. Thanks for looking it up for me. I was away from my books at the time.

If I recall correctly, in the book Ghosts of Ascalon there was an actual reference to ingots of platinum in the treasures he looted from the vault, but it has been a long time, and that doesn’t necessarily mean that it was the minted currency of platinum and not just a material. But he did truly seem to regret dropping it to climb up out of the hole.

We talked about this rather early on in a topic that I brought up, and one good explanation we found is as follows.

WarriorOfAsgard.3705:

I figured that’s what you meant. Seems like a reasonable explanation, though it could also be that it was simply phased out and replaced with a newer, and possibly better alternative monetary system that we see today. I suspect the ex-pirates of Lion’s Arch may have had a major part to play considering the pirates and corsairs on Cantha and Elona each carried gold, silver, and copper coins, as did the Zaishen Order in exchange for the daily quests.

The theory is that the pirates and Zaishen took over Lion’s Arch for the most part after the Rise of Zhaitan, which lead to a simultaneous cut off from both Kamadan and Kaineng, which were the two other major trade capitals for Humanity. Because of this, as the new Lion’s Arch started becoming a trading hub for all races and nations, it would make sense that the natural currency of both the Zaishen and Pirates (which were a system of copper, silver, and gold coins) would slowly subvert all others eventually. Having Lion’s Arch backing the currency likely gave worth to the currency as they became more and more prominent (though in all reality, the destruction of Lion’s Arch would likely have done a lot to subvert the value of said currency).