Guild Wars 2

When you look at the real dollar value it would take to outright purchase a legendary, it starts to become clear that Anet is dropping the ball in a bad way on delivering a product that holds any sort of value. It doesn’t matter if you used a credit card or spent hours grinding in CoF, or just spent your days in world, if you have a legendary, there is a value assigned to it that is equivalent to hundreds of dollars in US currency, and Anet needs to start treating legendaries like it.

OP, the reason they will never do this is in your own data.

26,250g is approximately $14,500US (using current data from gw2spidy on gold → US$ value of $0.55 per gold)

Legendaries are a cash cow for Anet, and they won’t give up that significant source of income.

sirsquishy.8531:

The entire player blocking system needs revamped.

There are several security holes with it. Such as if you block them, they can still see you online.

its going to be an ongoing issue until NCSoft takes this seriously.

They won’t take it seriously until it affects revenues.

First, I like the idea, though it has some issues.
Second, the part about opening up new areas is going to happen likely sometime just after the sun burns out, so your primary changes need to be reworked a bit to focus on the few zones we have now.

I think there are many reasons that people don’t do DE’s. One of them is loot, or in this case, lack-of. The reward for finishing an event is not remotely close enough to get people who are after loot to want to do them. Heck, there is more profit in failing several events right now as it is.

Anet created a massive drought on loot from the start, thinking they could force people to their cash shop by making it next to impossible to obtain things in world. Now someone has woken up and made changes, unfortunately they’ve gone too far in one tiny direction, and the result is chaos.

I like your idea though, don’t get me wrong. It would be great to see some better reward tied into DE.

I’d like to see some consistency with skills. Such and 3 and 4 on a Warrior being block and pull, while on a thief it is pull and block. I don’t know what idiot thought it would be cute to do that, but it makes no sense.

The last thing we need is for Anet to have a one click method of saying “see! we read your stuff!”.

No. They need to either make the effort to actually interact with the user-base, or they can suffer the consequences of looking like they couldn’t possibly care less what the users think of their game (which is just about where they are right now).

Expect to have to visit the Chantry of Secrets a second time when you are done. Map completion is buggy and often times you have to revisit that one in order to get the POI there. Also, for me anyway, I had to leave the instance in order to get the map completion after entering the chantry to get the POI.

Numerous mobs can add an interesting mechanic in that they count towards the limitation of targets for AoE. They become something of an annoyance because you have to clear them out in order to have the highest effective dps against the primary targets.

ErionHashimoto.3015:

Neural.1824:

ErionHashimoto.3015:

… not to mention it’s very expensive.

This one quote from your comments is the single reason you will never see legendary weapons changed from soul-bound. Anet makes too much money off of them.

I meant in-game gold. You’re assuming enough people to count buy gems with real currency and convert them into gold.

Every time you buy something on the TP, whether it’s gold made in game or via gems, gold is removed from the in game economy, which affects the economy overall. As I’ve said in comments elsewhere recently, the numbers touted by Anet a week or so ago show that roughly $1.2mil dollars worth of gold was removed from the economy in game in just repair fees due to deaths caused by one mob type.
I’m all for people making gold in game and using it to purchase things. It hurts Anets RL wallet every time, but you can’t escape the taxes they charge.
On top of that there are simply a huge number of people who pay real cash for their shinies (if this wasn’t true, things would change rapidly until this was fact, it’s how their model works).

A lot of the trouble with champion zergs, Scarlet invasions, the Crown Pavillion, etc. is based on the absolute drought of loot that has been experienced over the past year. First we had Farming Punishment thrown on us, then the problems with drops in Nov/Dec/Jan timeframe that were supposedly “bugs”, then the introduction of highly desireable items, along with the growth of the userbase. When the champ loot changes and Queen’s Jubilee hit, there’s no wonder why people went overboard with their play time and so on. Someone at Anet must really get off on watching people scramble for table scraps. Probably some monetization megalomaniacal mindset, but I digress.
What Anet can’t seem to get right is balance. We don’t need everything for no effort, and we certainly don’t need it within two hours, but we also don’t need to be calculating up a 4 year time frame of playing an hour or so a day just to achieve the goal of crafting something. It’s not just legendaries. I was looking up Mjolnir earlier. 350 Charged Lodestones. At the rate those drop for me, I’ve had around 4 since October of last year, and to build Mjolnir, you need 350 of them. They simply don’t drop.
It’s alright for something to not drop as much, but when you get to the level of some T6 mats and such, it’s so out of proportion it’s easy to question the mental capacity of the person behind the design. Sure, there’s a supply of things like lodestones, but it’s not the demand that is driving the prices up, it’s the discrepancy between drop types.
Add to this the ridiculous fact it’s far simpler to just farm champs or run scarlet invasions to make the gold to flat out buy the items, but at that point, why bother crafting at all? Just save the gold and buy the kitten ed thing outright. Everything on the TP has a max of some infinitesimal profit over material and tax costs anyway, so it’s not like you’re saving money by buying the components.
Bottom line on it all is that Anet needs to pull their head out of their kitten and wake up to the balance issues which are creating most of the problems they are facing right now in the first place. That or they should just remove crafting completely, because they obviously don’t “get it”.

Zahld.4956:

I wish GW2 was Eve Online

Fixed.

ErionHashimoto.3015:

… not to mention it’s very expensive.

This one quote from your comments is the single reason you will never see legendary weapons changed from soul-bound. Anet makes too much money off of them.

Mjolnir with Legendary stats is something that I’d find attractive enough to go for. Better than the lamp-post.

That’s how I feel anyway. Like I am nothing more than some lowly peon to be ignored and loathed. While I’ve thought it in the past, I’m not the first to post on these forums the thought that Anet’s attitude is “shut up and give us your money”.

I’d like to suggest that Anet break the typical game-company mold and require their employees to spend 15minutes a day reading the forums or in game interacting with players.

Stop treating players like we are some sort of repulsive infection. Maybe some of the attitudes would change around here if the players actually felt like Anet employees know who provides the money for their paychecks.

Fergus: I understand where you are coming from there, but what I’m getting at is the removal of mechanics that can be documented as a simple “this is how you fight x boss”.

I’d like to see a list of multiple attacks for each boss, and have the boss randomly choose 3 to 5 of those on spawn. Having additional mobs as part of the mechanic is great, but I see one of the main issues with boredom being that everything can be written down in a short paragraph on how to fight something.

Even veterans should have an attack set. This is something that adds spice to the game without driving up the development cost of the AI. Yes, there is a lot of work involved in creating the attacks, but in the long run it creates more replay value.

Unfortunately, game companies and their investors aren’t interested in innovation, they are interested in profit. As a result, we get the same garbage to choose from when looking for a game. No-one wants to create quality anymore, Anet included. They just want to push out garbage that is “acceptable” as fast as possible.

You won’t get much support for this. The same people that tea-bag you are the ones who will scream against it the most.

Stat-play should be for legendaries only.

I’ve not cared for making a legendary greatsword, but that would be something worth going after.

It’s sad that, as another user stated, Anet doesn’t know this sub-forum exists.

Actually, just increasing the stack limit to 500 on all stuff would be nice

One of the biggest issues I see in the MMO’s I’ve played, including GW2, is that unless you go in blind, a boss fight, heck even normal mobs, is predictable.
You learn the patterns, you learn the attacks, the weaknesses, etc.

This also results in players narrowing down the best set-ups for each situation. Thus we have “go zerk or go home”.

All that could be thrown for a loop if the players had to be ready for more than just a few encounter types. It could result in longer (or sometimes shorter) boss fights as well.

What needs to be done is some randomization of the attacks.

Using dungeons as an example, let’s consider Kohler on AC Path 3.

Kohler has a neat attack where he pulls you in and then plays blender. That’s fine. Cost me a few silver, but I learned how to avoid it and what to watch for. You can see what’s going to happen, and even prepare ahead of time for the fight if needed. Choose utilities, weapons, etc.

I’d like to see Anet make bosses a lot more complex. Give someone like Kohler a pool of 30 attacks and defenses, then for each instance/event, have him choose 3. Make them different enough that people actually have to figure out what they are, and form a strategy to get past it with the setups they have.

This would require a reduction in damage on some of the “one-shot” attacks that Anet is so fond of, but Anet is going to have to wake up and realize that gimmicks and cheap-shots are the hallmark of poor design and lack of imagination.

Same would apply for open-world dynamic event bosses like Dwayna’s statue. Give Malchor a pool of 30 attacks to use, and let him choose between 3 and 5 of them when he possesses the statue. Get the players to work together and have to strategize on the spot instead of just reading about the one or two constant mechanics that the boss uses.

World boss events like Jormag could benefit from this as well. The upcoming buff to Teq may be a step in the right direction, but it won’t be long before his attacks are known, right down to the pattern.

The ease of memorization of boss attacks and such has plagued MMO’s for years. It’s time to break that mold and let the players adapt to some unexpected variety.

Vayne.8563:

If the only thing in this game to you is a legendary weapon…probably time for you to move on.

Vayne.8563:

Find a guild with like minded players, then, and play your way.

Which is it, Vayne? First you tell him that if he wants to play his way, the game isn’t for him, then you tell him to play his own way.

Da Sonic.6521:

Yes, because Anet definitely benefits from you missing out on putting more currency into the game, making the Gem:Gold ratio higher.

Right?
Right?
Right?

If it was just me, your sarcasm would make sense, but tell me, if it happens to thousands of users, then what?

By their own numbers, in their first year, just one type of mob in this game removed approximately $1.2million worth of gold from the in game economy in just the repair fees people had to pay to make up for being killed by them.
How much loot are they not distributing by allowing critical bugs to persist then? World event loot includes at least one yellow, and now T7 mats.

With all the fabrications they’ve pulled over the past year, along with the unscrupulous methods they use to part people with their in game money, it’s no stretch to see how they would ignore certain bugs for that same purpose.

Really getting tired of the client crashing when a world boss is just under 10% health, then getting shoved into overflow. I get 30fps during huge zerg fights in WvW, and it does just fine when doing the aetherblade fights in the invasions, yet somehow magically it crashes when the most loot is on the line.

CureForLiving.5360:

Plyte.8130:

What frustrates me about this is that there has been 0 communication on why they made this change and the spin put on those patch notes to make it look like a bug.

Ok so most of your post was a bit complainy. But I will agree that ANet hasn’t been very communicative, well technically since the game launched. Anet could probably prevent a lot of posts like this with a weekly blog post. And not a marketing post either, simply one of the devs sitting down and telling us what they’re considering, why they did what they did etc.

One of the best suggestions in a long time, and yet another one to add to the long list of great suggestions that will get ignored by Anet.
All they care about is their LS content now, everything else is just “when we have time” which they rarely do because of the insane amount of work going into the LS content (as evidenced by how rushed feeling and buggy it can be when they implement it).

Vol.5241:

You either have not checked Orr since the last update or you have a dead server. People actively complete these temples for Dragonite Ore.

^^^^this.

Since the introduction of T7 mats, there are almost always people on during my prime time that are running the various temples. Even Balthazar (though not as often).

Stooperdale.3560:

The MMO Vanguard tried to create a crafting system that encouraged you to make decisions while crafting. People could build their own houses and so on. Even so it was essentially repetitive and ultimately dull. Crafting in all other games has been dull from start to finish and it shouldn’t be the only way to get top line gear.

There is no skill or capability involved in getting ascended gear. It is all about sinking time into collecting money, sinking time into farming events and dungeons, and sinking time into crafting.

The issue of better-gear only through crafting is valid, especially since GW2 seems to have been marketed in the “play your way” arena. Anet would like come back and say that “Ascended weapons are also available through drops” or whatever (which, if I recall actually has not been implemented yet). They are good at twisting facts to fit their lack of effort and design thought.

Outside of that issue, crafting is simply not for everyone. Vanguard had one of the best crafting systems, in my opinion, because just like real crafting, you had a chance at failing or messing up. Risk was rewarded if successful. Or you could take moderate risk and progress slowly.

The fact is, however, crafting takes a certain mindset. Many in GW2 seem to think that rewards should only be given for fighting other players or champions. They would have gathering removed completely if not for the fact that they can make some side money by selling the materials. Crafters are often more patient, but just as goal oriented as fighters. Crafting in Vanguard and other games is what got me started on my RL hobby of jewelry-making. I’m just someone that enjoys it. I like working with my hands. Doing so virtually is fun because it doesn’t cost nearly as much (silver is not cheap these days). In the long run, I don’t think that people who enjoy crafting and people who enjoy fighting will every truly merge into one mindset.

Again, with the exception of crafting being the only method to access certain gear types, crafting itself simply is “not for everyone”, and that’s why often times it is glossed over in game development. It’s not a mainstream thing in games.

Marduh.4603:

ZilentNight.5089:

They are supposed to be a “Group event” all champs are designed to be killed by large groups of people.

Any frostforge champion easily killed by by one warrior.

Prove it.

Take your warrior and use fraps and upload a video of you solo-ing every champ in Frostgorge please.

That bug is really annoying, but as it doesn’t affect sPvP, expect Anet to jump on it and fix it sometime before the year 2120

How about increase the loot quality from a box proportionate to the amount of time the champ has been around?

10minutes: generic loot
30minutes good loot (i.e. chance at yellow)
1hour : good loot plus T7 mat
90minutes: great loot plus T7 (chance at orange)
2hours: best loot plus T7 (better chance for exotic, equivalent to how loot currently is)
1day+: same as 2hours, but increased chance for precursor.

A Sigil that increases range by 10% or otherwise allows rifles and other long range attacks to come up just shy of the standard ranger longbow attack (which of course would be even further if using the Sigil).

No, no /sarc tag on this one, I’m serious.

It would add some good versatility to the short bow, for starters. Rangers could put away the longbow and go with a SB/GS combo more effectively. Thieves would be able to hit targets further out than daggers reach. Warriors could benefit in both longbow and rifle marksmanship.

I know! They should make a sigil that allows you to choose magic find as an attribute for your weapon! They could do the same thing for runes!

I probably don’t need to add a /sarc tag, but there it is anyway for the benefit of the obtuse.

So nice to see the tears when the tables are turned. Those who are either focused on crafting or are just casual players are likely recalling when all of you l337 types were saying “then don’t do it.” and “it’s not required” and “no-one is forcing you to do it” when some of us spoke up and complained about having to do Obsidian Sanctum for the POI to get world completion. It prevented them from ever obtaining a Legendary, and you spit on them with your acidic attitude.
Now that the tables are turned, suddenly the world is collapsing because you can’t have your uber-gear. Don’t expect much sympathy from the crafting community and casual types.

My guess is OP has four or five stacks of orange name containers and is drooling over the potential profit offered by nerfing champ drops.
If they followed OP’s demands and implemented it today, the desire by players for Essence of Luck would drive up the price on greens and blues a whole lot as they’d take a hit in availability.

Define “skill”.

edit: and no, I don’t mean the group related setting you listed. What do you define individual player skill as? Joining mumble or teamspeak is not “skill”

This is a suggestion specific to the inventory window, as well as the hero armor window (and any other relevant windows).
I’d like to see a single pixel wide frame around items icons which holds the color associated with that items quality/rarity.
Blue border for fine, Green for master, Yellow for rare, etc.
It would provide a very easy visual cues to item level, instead of having to memorize the icons or mouse-over an item to see what it’s quality is.

You don’t understand, OP.

GW2 will be an “esport” at any cost. Probably even as far as losing their business entirely. Someone at Anet is obsessed with esports, that’s for sure.

Mungrul.9358:

So contrary to what they initially claimed (that Ascended was planned all along), Colin specifically states in that interview that Exotic WAS supposed to be final tier and Ascended was added because they underestimated how quickly people would get Exotic.

Ignoring the fact that people like being able to get max stat gear quickly so they then only have to worry about aesthetics, here we have proven that ArenaNet did outright LIE back in November, and that Ascended WASN’T planned prior to release.

I think the comments at glassdoor about “shady management” ring true if you look at what’s been said vs. what’s been done with this game

morrolan.9608:

This doesn’t explain why loading times into LA have increased exponentially since the game launched with the same hard drive.

I thought it was just my system. Interesting that someone else is seeing the same problem.
Most cities and locations load quite quickly, but LA keeps taking longer and longer.

Nuka Cola.8520:

The main problem i have with these T7 mats is the fact that they’re forcing me to do things i hate such as jumping puzzles and braindead dragons. That plus seeing 24h countdown after crafting only one mat is just~~~~~ Now if a new dungeon was added and every single T7 mat (excluding those that need to be refined like the ones with a countdown) i would be very happy and enjoy farming the dungeon with a goal instead of pressing Space 10 000 times per jumping puzzle. Anet doesn’t give us enough way to acquire stuff and looks like after a year they haven’t learned anything.

Ok, I see your point, but wasn’t that sort of the original idea with legendaries? That you have to run a wide variety of content (WvW, dungeons, open world, etc.) to obtain the required materials to build one? I hated WvW, especially the jumping puzzle. I’m not a PvP type person, yet it’s required for the legendary build. So I forced myself through it.
By its nature, having crafting paths for long term weapons that cover all aspects of the game is going to include things that you don’t like doing.

As for countdown timers, Eve Online is a game you should avoid, just a side note.

The problem is that Anet needed to balance between the casual player and the hardcore player. I think perhaps the time gating plus the account bound status on materials was perhaps over-the-top, but as far as taking an effort to balance casual vs. hardcore when it comes to the ability to craft something, I think they did a decent job.

And yes. Anet has come up short in providing multiple ways to obtain things, but even still, each T7 item has more than one location you can obtain it from.

Raine.1394:

That’s true and I remember statements to the effect that they were creating a ‘challenging’ level 80 area with Southsun. It’s basically empty. One would think that this would lead to thought on Anet’s part. Why is it empty? Why are certain temples closed? Why do they fail 99% of the time? Do gamers really play to fail? Is failure a desired state for humans?

Arenanet has the mindset that if they provide “challenging” content, people will open their wallets and buy gems, no loot or rewards required.
It seems only recently that they’ve started to see the financial damage they are doing to themselves by taking that attitude.

Waar Kijk Je Naar.8713:

RNG.

You could salvage 10000 exotics and not get a single Dark Matter, in theory.

What is it with you RNG acolytes? There is a storm raging on this forum about how Arenanet has, on numerous occasions, said they will do one thing, then turned around and done the opposite, yet you appear to blindly trust them to not slant drop rates in favor of their own wallet.

nmoral.3876:

it was said by a dev that quality of salvage kit didnt affect on getting essences of luck form blues/greens. Is Dark matter affected by salvage kit quality?

Have a link to that quote? I’d like to know that one. Would save a lot to use basic over something better on greens.

Nuka Cola.8520:

Siphaed.9235:

Nuka Cola.8520:

More crafting? Do these devs ever get another ideas of acquiring items? What about adding hard mode to current dungeons, collect relics (that aren’t tradable) and combine them to build a precursor? I don’t want to craft more of your kitten! All they do is release items that you craft, so what’s the point of even going outside LA… i swear these people—-

Are you ware that crafting requires materials gathered from around the game’s world and zones? That you cannot obtain those things in LA unless you purchase from the trading post (although account bound ones you cannot). But another thing to note is that in order to purchase you’ll need to obtain gold, once again requiring to leave LA in order to obtain.

Your ranting argument is baseless and more or less that you don’t like crafting. Well,….I’m sorry, but that’s how it’s going to be. Either take that, or the other two options are to go and find one from a chest in the game’s world (.5% chance?) and/or purchase from another lucky player in the game for 100’s of gold.

you can buy them on something called TP, just like 99.999% of other things in the game. And don’t even tell me its costly because if you’re going for legendary you probably have enough money, plus the over nerfed world is so nerfed that buying from TP is what you’ll do anyway. If the precursor was created with relics and there was no way to buy these relics, only then it would feel like you had a goal. It could be much more than just collecting relics in hard mode tho, relics would be one step of the three or five needed. Do anything but make me craft even more

Some of what you’ve said seems to contradict other comments you’ve made on Ascended crafting.
T7 mats are account bound, and you have different sources for them, thus there is a solid “goal” involved with getting one of those weapons. I believe it should be the same for the legendary weapons.
As for precursors, Anet’s been a whole lot of talk about scavenger hunts and crafting, but no action. I’ll believe it when I see it.
If I had to come up with 500g worth of mats that could be found or harvested in world, I’d do that in a heartbeat over paying someone an exorbitant price for a precursor.
What I want most is a reasonable path to a guaranteed result. Not slot machine gambling with the mystic toilet or drops in world, and not “solo Teq 5 times without dying” either.
Personally I think that if Anet is going to make a set path to obtaining a precursor, that path should involve T7 mats, but not be more difficult than it currently is to get a legendary. Sadly, it will likely end up being ridiculously difficult, because Anet makes more money off the TP transactions if more people just give up and purchase. Anything to drive the people to pull out their wallet.

I love the new footfalls on The Dreamer, but I’m building The Dreamer knowing that Anet will change it up at their whim. I could get the item completed, pull it out of the mystic forge and the very next day have Anet remove the unicorns from it completely. That’s how Anet operates. :shrug:

More ancient wood, but no additional Orichalcum. I noticed quite a disparity in loot with the Scarlet invasions. The scrap metal drops and such were revealing a decent increase in overall orichalcum ore intake when salvaging, but not ancient wood.

Making changes right now though is not the best idea, because the amount of ancient wood should increase with the rush to salvage every blue/green on the planet for luck essence. Unfortunately this will eventually taper off as many accounts hit 300%

I think they should consider increasing the wood nodes, but Orichalcum is acceptable as is. Salvaging exotics for Globs of Dark Matter will keep the Ori and Ancient wood value high, and the lack of supply will keep the value of exotics up.

I was kinda wondering what happened to that as well. I wanted to make my Lotus have the assassin’s stats as well.

Note that with the new patch, blue and green name items will be salvageable for a chance to get items which help improve your account level magic find. So selling them may not be your only option.

Vaypur.7465:

Does anyone know if salvaging Exos will result in :

1. Chance at Glob(s) of Dark Matter only

2. Chance at Glob(s) of Dark Matter OR Glob(s) of Ectoplasm

3. Chance at Glob(s) of Dark Matter AND/OR Glob(s) of Ectoplasm

?

4. 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of Dark Matter, and 0.00000000001% chance of Ectoplasm

Anet probably won’t rest until a single glob of ectoplasm is an average of 1gold in price. I like how they did the new crafting, but with no adjustments to drop rates of T6 mats, legendary weapons are going to push towards well over $1000US in value for outright purchase.

Arenanets clinical obsession with every last kitten copper.