Also, gladiators. Now we know why the arena in the Cursed Shore is so empty most of the time.
Only one Personal Story mission has them, they don’t appear anywhere in the open world to my knowledge.
From “Conscripting the Dead Ships”.
“Fear meee!”
“Rise my brothers!”
“Gnashblade for Council!”
Why do people want to stop the Champion farm trains? While I don’t run with them, I see no point in condemning them for playing that way if they want. I’ll just keep playing my way and leave them be.
Answer to the topic sentence: No.
I don’t care to run with champion farm trains either, but if that’s how they want to play, then I’ll just keep doing my own thing and not be bothered by it, and I will not purposely aggravate them for playing differently.
“Annoying spiders. Wait, what is tha—-Aaah! Nonononono!!”
“THE PAIN’S HERE!”
“Run away!”
“NO ESCAPE!”
After Note: It is possible to outrun him…as a warrior with sword/shield and greatsword. Other professions have to try somewhat harder to shake it off if it spawns nearby or spots you.
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On a side note: It is much easier to farm the candy corn nodes on the north and east sides of the outer paths and the northern half of the center area itself, due to the mobs up there being not of the cripple/immobilize/pull you over and over variety.
Also, the candy corn nodes grow back an hour after you mine them, so having alts sitting in the Labyrinth are pretty much a necessity if you want to accumulate the candy corn quickly via this way. Guesting/overflows can also help with this somewhat.
“This one. Kill.”
@ azurrei: Cursed Shore isn’t so bad. Southsun is. Plus, Cursed Shore (and Malchor’s Leap) have plenty of things to get while you’re there, while Southsun…I’d only go there for karka shells, passion fruits/flowers, and that’s it.
@ Ellisande: Agreed. Another thing that annoys me is that dynamic event enemies can actually be above the level cap for no good reason than just making them take longer to kill.
Anyway…more mummies!
“Death…good.”
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Remember all those other champions and legendary foes you faced out in the open world? They’re all pansies. The Viscount, Skele-Lich, and the Chainsaw Horror have them all beat. Good thing Mad King Thorn and the Bloody Prince can’t get out more than once a year (and are fighting each other), or they could conquer Tyria!
On a side note: That AoE Torment from the Horror (a.k.a. Spirit Scream) is annoyingly broken. On top of its range, it can hit through walls!
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Mummies aren’t fun either. Especially when they stack.
“How do you like stacking now, puny mortals?”
Because I want something different then more complaining. Even though it’s probably mostly justified, and this will be sorta complainy. But maybe my suffering will amuse you, at least.
On that note: Fighting a small group of Rebel Lunatics is not fun.
Well, the Gorgeous Mesmer Collective sent Kasmeer out there…maybe Jennah and Anise are members as well?
10 Candy Corn Cobs (10,000 Pieces of Candy Corn) and 10 Tyria’s Best Nougat Centers (10,000 Nougat Centers) along with 10 Piles of Crystalline Dust and 40 Bottles of Elonian Wine….for the recipe that will let me make the Gift of Souls for the Crossing.
To any developers who are reading this, but probably aren’t:
Making the recipe the hardest part to obtain in the entire process of making a rare weapon skin is utterly wrong. It’s like you people don’t even play your own game and try the get the skins the same way. Especially when I have to get this all in the next 2 weeks before I can’t anymore.
10,000 Pieces of Candy Corn? Possible…maybe. But it isn’t fun.
10,000 Nougat Centers? Without an insane amount of luck, or a lot of gold to burn in buying them off the Trade Post (ironically, buying the upgraded Nougats themselves in the long run is cheaper), there is no way to get enough by the time this event ends.
By the time I had even started playing, it was already past the first Halloween event. I’ve been punished for not being there the first time, just because I want to make The Crossing.
Guess it’s better to not have goals in the game, eh?
- Instead of the toy factory going from city to city like last year, this year it will be static and you will only be able to access it by going into wintery doors found throughout Wayfarer, Snowden, and Lornar’s Pass.
- Players will have an opening instance where they revisit the dungeon from last year, and things seem the same, but then Scarlet shows up and you have to fight Aetherblades. Again.
- Rather than being instanced, the dungeon will be open world with frequently spawning events, introducing a new type of foe: frosty clockwork minions. You will be chilled 100% of the time in this area.
- There will be special legendary frosty bosses that have one unique mechanic that is powerless against the zerg, but that have enormous hp pools so it takes 10 minutes to kill them.
- The minions will drop frozen clockworks scraps which can be turned in for minis and some useless holiday garbage that no one will really want. Maybe frosty clockwork sandwiches. It will take thousands of them for the mini.
- New skins in the gem store, but it requires a claim ticket. Impossible to get by actually playing the game.
Why do I feel like that might actually be the outcome? I die a little inside thinking of it.
After going through the story and getting the Candy Corn Node for my home instance, I thought I’d make the Crossing for my necromancer. And then I see the materials I need to make the recipe to let me make the Gift of Souls…. I’ve given up now. Even if I could farm up all the candy corn I need, there’s just no way to get the Nougat Centers fast enough without buying them off the Trading Post, and I don’t have enough gold for that, and don’t want to have to do that. I’ve given up on it now.
You know that the live-stream was yesterday, right?
Yep, sure did. Does that mean they can’t answer it here? No. I suppose this thread should be closed down now, yes?
Why are the short story and the story in-game inconsistent? The short story seems to take place when Mad King Thorn was still mortal and ruling Kryta, yet when the Bloody Prince escapes from the box in the instance, he quickly notes that he’s not in the Mad Realm, implying he knows about his father being there now. Also, when he gets sealed back in the box, he’s apparently just in the Mad Realm instead, when in the short story, the box was just implied to make Edrick go mad inside it, not be a portal to a part of the Underworld.
Also, why do the new Halloween rewards cost so ridiculously much to get? I’m getting the impression that the developers and others working on the Living Story don’t really read the forums at all, or hardly care.
I’ve stopped hoping. Whatever it is, it probably won’t be as good as we thought.
In addition to these “updated” requirements for old weapons, we got two new items as well to get: A Bloody Prince mini, and a 20 Slot Halloween Pail. The mini costs 20 Candy Corn Cobs and the 20 Slot Pail requires 15 Candy Corn Cobs.
As of right now, 250 Pieces of Candy Corn cost 1.75 gold (at 70 copper per piece), meaning enough for a single cob costs roughly 7 gold (actually a little more, since I’m not factoring in the price going up bit by bit as you buy more).
So by that, the mini would cost around 150 gold’s worth of candy corn pieces. No thanks.
The 20 Slot Pail would cost around 110 gold’s worth of pieces. When you consider that other 20 slot containers are far easier and cheaper to buy (Fractals, Glory if your PvP rank is high enough, can be bought from the Trading Post ranging from 12-15 gold, can be crafted for 10 gold per Superior Rune of Holding), this item becomes utterly nonsensical, especially since the only difference is it’s own icon/name. Seriously, what’s even the point of this item then? Do Halloween materials fill up this pail before other containers? Even then, it’d still be pointless to get.
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Okay, this part is separate because I worried it’d be too big. But just to show how bad it is, I’ll use the Crossing as an example.
The Crossing requires:
-1 Gift of Souls (its unique gift)
-Eldritch Scroll (just 50 skill points, not bad)
-100 Mystic Coins (save up from dailies/monthlies, or buy them)
-20 Superior Sigils of the Night (why 20? It can only use 1. Sigh, whatever)
A Superior Sigil of the Night requires:
-1 Orichalcum Ingot
-1 Glob of Ectoplasm
-1 Onyx/Charged/Glacial Lodestone (depending on craft profession)
-100 Pieces of Candy Corn
Gift of Souls requires:
-1 Gift of Knowledge (500 Knowledge Crystals)
-250 Orichalcum Ingots (annoying, but doable with some effort)
-20 Globs of Ectoplasm (surprisingly few compared to other crafted exotics, though the Sigils of Night will need some Ectoplasm to make, so maybe that makes up for it)
-100 Crystal Lodestones (buy Crystal Cores and Elonian Wine, cheaper than getting the Lodestones themselves)
Is that grindy? Yes. But it is mostly stuff I can get on my own in a variety of ways, and I could manage this before I can’t craft them anymore. Except for one more thing.
In order to make the Gift of Souls, you have to make the recipe to allow you to learn how to make a Gift of Souls, instead of just discovering it. This is a cheap and blatant way to make craftable upgrades harder to make, and it’s done with quite a few other items as well (mostly food trays, but there are others).
Recipe: Gift of Souls requires:
-40 Bottles of Elonian Wine (why so much wine?)
-10 Candy Corn Cobs (each Cob requiring 1,000 Pieces of Candy Corn to make, so 10,000 pieces altogether. Very grindy and annoying, but doable…if you farm the Candy Corn Nodes in the Labyrinth for the rest of the Halloween events.
10 Piles of Crystalline Dust (easy, but wait for it..)
10 Tyria’s Best Nougat Centers (made from 1,000 Nougat Centers per Best Nougat Center respectively, also requiring 10,000 in total. Unlike the Candy Corn however, there are no resource nodes for these, you either get them as rare drops off enemies or semi-rarely out of Trick or Treat Bags, meaning there is no consistent means to gather enough soon enough.)
Seriously, for all the stuff this takes, the weapon might as well be an Ascended weapon. It really should be, if it’s going to require this much!
It’s the same for the other returning Halloween weapons. (They use different Gifts/ Lodestones/Halloween items, but the quantity requirements are the same from what I recall, it’s on the wiki.)
Who decided on these requirements for the Halloween weapons? I really want to know what their rationale was behind this, because from what I’ve read, it didn’t take this much to make them when they first came out. Why up the amounts needed? At this rate, I pretty much have to rely on the Trading Post to get enough Nougats and probably the Candy Corn too, since farming it in the Labyrinth is a pain. When just making a recipe you need is the hardest thing of all to do in the entire process, something is utterly wrong!!!
So…yeah. I wanted the Crossing, only to discover that since I wasn’t here for the first time, I might not be able to make it at all. And even if I can, it’s not something I can say I had fun doing.
After-note: Superior Sigil of the Night also requires you to make a recipe, but since it is easily buy-able from the Trading Post, I didn’t include that. Also, the actual quantity of materials necessary to make it is unknown at this time, as that was messed with too.
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Warning: Wall of text, rambling, and some complaining. No T.l.d.r. way out of this.
I wasn’t here for Halloween the first time around. When this Living Story came and I was going through the story and the getting the achievements to be able to beat the Bloody Prince, I learned that the Halloween weapons could be crafted at this time. I looked at them and recalled the Crossing, which I had seen before but paid no mind to, as I couldn’t craft or buy it before. I want one for my necromancer, and I thought it would be nice to have a little goal to work towards while the Halloween festivities were going on.
But then I looked it up and see all the things I have to get and do to make it now, as well as the other weapons/items.
And…it’s ridiculous. I’ve read that these were easier to make when they first came out, so why are they this grindy now?
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Except you can only get the bonus chest once a day, as I discovered while trying to see if I could get candy corn faster from beating the Prince over and over. (Of course, alts don’t work there either.) And, even if a Confiscated Bag can drop from the chest in the room itself, it is presumably too rare a drop to make repeating the instance worthwhile. The only good solution would be to reduce the amount of materials to make the upgraded versions from 1,000 to 250, like Super Adventure Box does. But I highly doubt they’ll do that.
Same with the upgraded versions of the other Halloween items (High Quality Plastic Fangs, Gibbering Skulls, Tyria’s Best Nougat Centers) as well. In fact, even more so for them, since Corn Cobs are possible to get, just annoying and grindy, but possible. The other upgraded items are even harder, and probably won’t be possible within the allotted time without heavy reliance on the Trading Post.
I was invited to a tournament and got 7 Trick or Treat Bags instead of the match reward chest when the team I was with won. If I had gotten both the bags and a PvP chest, that’d be fine, but replacing PvP rewards with something that is unusable for PvP makes no sense. And this is coming from someone who doesn’t even care for PvP.
Oh… Apologies, I didn’t read that bug thread first. >.<
Ah, okay. I’ve had no luck with the rarer stuff. Every now and then the very occasional Plastic Fangs, Chattering Skull, or Nougat Center. At this rate, I don’t see how I’m supposed to get 10,000 of these for the recipe to make the Gift of Souls.
It’s dead here too mostly. I go there now just to farm the nodes with alts, and nothing more.
NPCs? You mean the bosses in the Labyrinth, yes?
And the bags gave to mee…
-207 Pieces of Candy Corn
-1 Chattering Skull
-6 Nougat Centers
-2 Plastic Fangs
-4 Bowls of Candy Corn Custard
-5 Strawberry Ghosts
-4 Pieces of Almond Candy Corn Brittle
-2 Glazed Pear Tarts
-2 Glazed Peach Tarts
-3 Concentrating Halloween Tonics
Meh. I was hoping for one of the rarer candies that you normally make from fusing 1000 together for.
Anyone get those rarer candies from the bags at all?
Answer to the title statement: No. Heals and regeneration being removed from the entire game just because you can’t beat people who focus on healing is an asinine and flat out selfish thing to suggest.
The only silver lining to the whole situation is that people who already knew the recipe are unaffected, so they can provide Gifts to the rest of the playerbase if they’re so inclined.
Which they might…for over 150 gold per Gift.
In a strange way, those bookahs whining about item exclusivity got their way: All the returning items are even harder to get now for anyone who didn’t get them the first time.
I am currently attempting to craft “The Crossing”… pausing for laughter… I have gathered all the necessary material for my LVL 413 artificer to craft the “Gift of Souls”. I told my guild of my idea and then I saw a response from one of my guildies. And He said “YOU actually GOT A RECIPE?” This stopped me in my tracks. I was under the assumption all you need to do was discover it, by combining the correct amount of items. When I tried last night to craft it I couldn’t, because neither the “Gift of Knowledge” nor my 100 crystal lodestones appeared in my crafting window. Anet can you confirm that you CAN or can NOT craft “The Gift of Souls” without the recipe or am I doing something wrong.
Thanks
And guess what? The recipe to make the recipe is arguably more grindy than the rest of the parts for the staff combined! Argh…
Probably. Still gotta farm the Labyrinth with alts if you want it quickly…
Did someone say the LS is grindy?
Lies… everyone knows Anet doesn’t make grindy games!
“We don’t make grindy games.”
“We make grindy patches instead!”
What about the recipes for the gifts required for the Halloween weapons? (The Crossing, Mad Moon, Arachnophobia, etc.) will those still be craftable after this Living Story patch is done?
Good: That invasive weed isn’t here.
Bad: The story is summed up as “We watch the Bloody Prince break free, we force him back, we do an achievement grind to obtain the Mini Candy-Corn elemental to defeat him, then we seal him back in for real. Oh, but he might get out again.”
It was never explained why we had to use the Mini Candy-Corn elemental and couldn’t use the many elementals that were already in the Labyrinth.
In addition to that, all of the new items for this Living Story are pretty much either in the Gem Store or Black Lion Chests, and the Halloween weapons you could craft from before now require a ridiculous amount of materials to complete, on top of only being craftable for the duration of this Living Story and not afterwards. Same with the 20 Slot Pail and the Bloody Prince mini.
3. Scarlet does something really weird and some totally ridiculous backstory for her is introduced to explain why the krait love her even though they hate every other race ever created.
You give them too much credit. They didn’t explain why the dredge and the Flame Legion joined forces (new technology isn’t believable imo). It just happened. There was no ridiculous back story to explain their alliance, it just happened.
On top of that, the one hint we get towards the person who got them together doesn’t even fit Scarlet at all (possibly someone working for her, but it’s never explored any further). And despite spending the entire final act of Flame and Frost destroying their forces and facilities, once Scarlet’s invasions come around, they’re back and in even greater numbers. So…what was the point?
Hmmm….no. The waypoints are mostly fine as is. Reducing the number of them/getting rid of them entirely is an idiotic idea. If you want to run for an hour to get to those faraway places, that’s your choice to do. However, do not attempt to force your choice onto the rest of us.
/thread.
Looks like we’ll need to get a Searing Cauldron to do some proper cleansing..
Everyone, this is clearly a troll thread. Nothing of value to see here. Move along.