Apparently placements doesnt count leavers. Had a fantastic 3v5 game from start to finish that still counted towards a loss.
The game still shows as a loss in the UI but your rating is unaffected.
I did get an extra loss on the placement UI and it did count towards the 10 games.
Right. The UI shows the game as a loss, but your rating was unaffected. Usually when a teammate leaves the match you see the 0 for your rating change after the game ends. During placements your rating isn’t visible yet so you don’t see the 0, but that same result happens.
Well if it works like that you also do your placements match over 9 games only, which will place you lower than you could have been.
The reason it works like that is because of how Elemetalist #2 is coded. Using the skill “revives” them into a vapor form that re-kill them at the end of it, so during that time they are concidered like an alive player for things like portals.
Thief #2 is just a standard teleport, we stay in the downed state the whole time.
What about engineers? Are they not effective on them?
Shield on engineer is completely useless.
I only got my engineer to like 78 but I really liked the shield. It can be used as a defense against both melee and ranged if you use the flips correctly.
The skills on the shield are decent ( CDs are way too long tho ) but the issue is that it’s just silly to use a shield because if you equip a MH pistol, not using an OH pistol is ridiculous. The only good skill on pistol is pistol 4. Even Pistol MH is bad, its just the only chocie to be able to equip an OH pistol for Blow torch.
Thief damage (including pulminary impact) needs to drop before you buff their sustain. They already have a low CD block stunbreak, seemingly spammable evades, and incredible mobility. If you play thief well, you can fight in chaotic teamfights. And if not, then you can decap because you can get to a point and back to the fight faster than any profession. Good thieves sit back and support rather than getting into the thick of it. You only go in to finish off a target or once things are less hectic.
Thieves are better against condis than people think. You’ll need to sacrifice pulminary impact (you won’t need it if you’re running staff), but removing a condi when you evade on a 1 second CD is far stronger than it sounds. You can shadowstep to remove 3 condis. You can move all movement impairing condis when you dodge. Staff, has two evading skills. Use them. The amount of dodges you have is astonishing, so you really shouldn’t be getting hit by condi bombs, and if you are, you can cleanse them. Don’t just spam vault for damage if you need those evades.
God, I’m so sick of thieves thinking they still need buffs.
I agree with your post but what Staff thief doesn’t take Staff Master ? lol
Rev is fine, even with the very limitted cleanse they currently run. Just avoid the condi and rely a bit on your teamates to help you.
It’s not like Rev can’t disengage fights that are too condi heavy and still be sueful by going roaming.
Warrior vs Rev currently work out great because they both have different strength and weaknesses as damage bruisers, and condi clear / resistance uptime is one of those thing.
My take on this is I think it’s the trait that is the problem, especially thief vs thief. I was fighting a necro and stole into him (interuptd and 3.5k dmg) then I feared him (interupt and 3.5k dmg) then I head shot him and yet another 3.5kdmg. Traits like this make no sence at all, and it’s in the daredevil line too? Would of thought this would of suited da or cs.
The power creep on this trait is what ruins thief imo.
I used to think this way as well, but then i realized something when fighting a thief running that trait.
They have zero condi clear.
If that build is beating people 1v1 it’s entirely the fault of the player losing to the thief.
Thief never needed condi clear to be viable. Nobody takes escapist Absolution if they’re serious thief players.
Oh so we just all should go play d/d core because how dare people actually play something that works vs current meta classes/builds? Who are you to tell me what to do?
Yes, impact + venom can be stupid in thief vs thief situation and promotes spamming to certain extend but you just suggest to nerf weapons we have vs other classes.
where the kitten can you read d/d in my writeing? where the kitten do you read in my writeing that “how dare you do xyz”??? I use an even more cancerous autopoc aids version of the same meta spec everyone is sticking to in 80% of my gameplay. If i suggest something that does effect my own gameplay too.
are you just assuming that i suggest nerfing thief to unviableness? are u mental? Thief is life!
I want this game to be as fun as it used to be and changing impacting and/or venom would be a step. Posibly in an update that levels the amount of passives and instants && boomspamming && condiburst etc…
Please stop thorwing stuff like these at me LOL. If i made an unclear statement then SORRY. U read forums 24/7 stuff should have meen clear for you.
Not sure you realize but Thief doesn’t have a single passive in its meta kit currently.
Actually, if your issue is boonspamming, condibursting, passives and mindless play, why the hell are you pointing thieves.
The issue I have with the Engi answers here, it’s very hard to push kills as engi. It has amazing rezzing potential but without slisck shoes, creating kills situation is often out of your control.
I think Rev is still the best soloqueue carry out there really.
Weed out people who have been abusing the stronger builds these past few seasons. No more merc’s ammy, necro and mes have been nerfed. People who got to legend riding a easy build from metabattle are going to have a much harder time this season.
Druid got hit pretty hard too. So there will be less sustain running around. Scrappers probably still hold well, though.
Scrappers have really bad killing power without slick shoes. Also their condi clear is suspect at best.
I think Ele, Druids and Scrappers are all in decent numbers as far as the support classes go currently.
Na there are so many skilless builds now. Thief, druid, mesmer… all these classes have a lower skill floor than ever before. It’s going to weed out the players that were interested in esports pvp.
Thief has a low skill floor build?
Absolutely.
Meta d/p is already pretty easy to play. Braindead evade into evade into evade staff build or evade into evade condition spam builds are just as easy as any other builds you name.
You’re overly simplify Thief. You know it and should feel bad about it.
I’m really enjoying current season so far.
Thief is in a very good place. Others classes have been nerfed enough that we have some of our 1v1 potential back. It’s totally doable to 1v1 Revenants, Mesmers and Druids with the current D/P build, but its not easy, you have to play well and doing it is a risk because of the ennemy thief who might be around.
Moa is still very strong. 10 sec moa was just way to OP.
This is a good balance change.
On 180cd.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Toss_Elixir_X
Aoe, no tell and on 96cd. Balanced.
You do realize that moa became useless to core mesmer? Last time i checked out moa wasnt chrono skill.
Its the same logic as it was with revenant and ranger.
Double stab dodge op? Nerf core rev, leave herald broken trait alone? Result? Rev is pushed into herald even more than before and what it fixed? Nothing, you can still keep up perma stab.
Druid dazes too op? Nerf a trait which increased duration by 100% that was absolutely fine in core ranger.
I have no idea who can defend that kind of crap as it has no logic whatsoever, those are just a LAZY changes HURTING build diversity. But i guess people are fine with having 1 build top per class.
You’re foolish if you think arenanet care about balancing anything that isn’t using an elite spec. That’s just how it is now.
Used to be instant before, was kinda OP since it allowed it to be used while stunned ( it was technically a stunbreak way before , that’s how OP sword used to be )
Most players probably don’t care, but this is very bad. If GW2 has no good Twitch support, the game can not grow as a “esports” game and neither as a MMO in general.
I actually believe cutting support for proleague would benefit the game in general;
The money being used for it is marketing money and audience/return from it is very low.
Use marketing money to actually market the game to people that would be interested ( there’s a lot of untapped players that would love GW2 but have no clue about it ), and without proleague, complains about meta and balance would probably lower.
I don’t know, feels like win-win in my books, and I’m an avid pvp player. ¯\(?)/¯
Arenanet would just need to get a proper marketing campaign going, and not stupid stuff like Guild cabs.
Never said anything about allocating more resources to Esports, but since they already made the decision and put the money aside, all they can now do is try to carry it out. I agree that more money for advertising is better, but then again, a popular stream wither 2k views (if Helseth were ever to reach that point) would advertise the game better than any marketing. Making more people aware of the game: twitch game streaming < == > word of mouth about the game. Besides, streaming on twitch isn’t only connected to PvP and Esports, but the game in general.
As for you mention of people complaining about balance problems? The balance right now is horrible. It needs to be fixed and the more people cry, the more Anet gets aware. (at least that is how it is suppose to be, if Anet doesn’t care then they are bad developers)
Yeah i know i went a bit off topic, just had to get it out of my chest.
And honestly, there’s a lot of negativity toward the games on helseth’s stream anyway, so i’m not sure he was the best streamers to show it off, even if he was the most consistent PvP streamer;
Most players probably don’t care, but this is very bad. If GW2 has no good Twitch support, the game can not grow as a “esports” game and neither as a MMO in general.
I actually believe cutting support for proleague would benefit the game in general;
The money being used for it is marketing money and audience/return from it is very low.
Use marketing money to actually market the game to people that would be interested ( there’s a lot of untapped players that would love GW2 but have no clue about it ), and without proleague, complains about meta and balance would probably lower.
I don’t know, feels like win-win in my books, and I’m an avid pvp player. ¯\(?)/¯
Arenanet would just need to get a proper marketing campaign going, and not stupid stuff like Guild cabs.
Unpopular opinion, but I think the revenant is one of the hardest classes to play.
Yeah yeah i know y’all scream bugged and OP skills and whatnot. Honestly though, between switching stances and weapons and managing cooldowns while having no stealth to disengage safely and on top of that micromanage an energy bar.
The difference between average revenant and top tier revenant is skyhigh and it shows in absolutely every 1v1.
You are free to watch TCG’s games from last week where Frae obliterated every other rev and see the difference.
I was going to make a post like that too actually.
rev is very easy to be decent at, but there’s a LOT of tricks and obscures things Rev can do to push the level higher.
Taking good advantage of swap sigils, using the legends swap damage/heal trait, managing energy to its maximum potential.
Doing the best damage possible as Rev in pvp is technically difficult, and it shows a LOT.
Just put a random revenant against a tempest and see how fast they can kill them. You’re going to see insane levels of difference between a good and a great rev.
Beside during serious pve, thief will literally always have it as their secondary set. It’s niche for Rangers, but for Thief it’s pretty core to the class in a majority of the game, even if it’s not a dps weaponset.
“Deathly Chill: This trait no longer causes chill to inflict damage but instead applies 8 seconds of bleeding each time you apply chill to an enemy.” let it sink in……
The thing you don’t take into account : nobody is going to run this trait anymore.
it doesn’t matter that the trait buffs necros agaisnt thieves when the trait isn’t good enough to be used anyway.
Give them time to find a build using all the new stuff. Warriors has a lot of weapons and utilities, it’s not a class where you can obviously see what to use, and can handle multiple playstyle.
i think there’s a good build hiding beneath all the enw changes.
I personally think its ugly, but then again I dont use shoutbow on either of my toons so couldn’t care less. Why would they release a legendary weapon that only thief/ranger? use.
They were working on the weapons that were joky sdkins in the first generation of legendary; We know for example they were also pretty far into the development of the new Mace.
Shortbow just happened to be the one furthest in development when MO decided to disband the legendary weapon team.
As a Thief main, I was really hyped about a more serious looking shortbow. This… is not what i was expecting.
It looks way too big and bulky, nothing about how it looks screams Legendary to me. I’m really sad. i was already farming for weeks to make it. now I’m not sure anymore.
there’s this guy that does videos with woodenpotatoes sometimes, he made a thief P/P + D/P interupt build for WvW which seemed decent last time i watched, check it if you like the idea.
You didn’t miss anything, we know nothing concrete about the patch, just random tid bits on the forums about reducing grind in pve, WvW overhauls of some kind, we have no real details and the patch is in less than one week.
It’s not about whether a thief can win a 1 v 1. It’s about whether a thief should spend time in a 1 v 1 instead of +1ing or decapping.
No.
You sir, are perhaps the most skilled interlocutor I have encountered. Your counter-argument, so full of reasoning, critical analytics, and bereft of logical fallacy, is indeed beyond reproach.
She is right tho.
Creating a competitive PvP game and effectively removing the fighting role from one class is bad design.
If ‘+1ing’ was enough for the thief to be viable we would see them in the pro leagues.
I know its dangerous to make thief viable in 1v1 since we can choose our opponents, but in response to that restricting us from that role entirely is a lazy decision from development.
Thief is barely not in proleague. Ask any proleague players, thief is not far behind at all.
Druids and necros are usually the easiest class to headshot lock.
Against necros you have to play careful when they have a lot of shrouds or when spectral armor trait procs, and against druids you have to watch out for the bristleback F2, but killing them 1v1 is doable.
Doable, but not exactly useful to do so, since it can be long. you have to understand, its not exactly that Thief rolls over dead instantly when he’s in 1v1, its just that thief and especially the D/P Dash build was not made for 1v1, and you’re wasting the build usefulness by engaging in them with no reason.
Heh, mesmers got to be the best class two seasons in a row, since ( like everyone predicted ), continium split is just way too good to be a F5 wihout losing anything.
if mesmers became warriors level for a season or two, they can’t complain.
Also id like to add that you have to play like a total kitten to even kill anyone with mesmer. Kite and teleport a dozen times while everyone else just 1,1,1 condi death.
Its not OP its just the only way to play it. Like u do more for less.
Man, this is really not the kind of complaints I would ever expect to see. Are you trying to not get Rev nerfed or something ?
It’s just so easy to survive as rev these days, despite the amount of condi. Unless i’m dueling mesmers, I never felt like condi were too much of an issue on my Rev.
Sure, you have very limitted amount of cleanse, staff 4 being the most obvious one, but Rev probably has the least vulnerable frames out of anyone but Mesmers and Thieves.
You don’t die to condis if you never get hit by them. Rev can also fight them throught their insane sustain abilities, and turn condi burst to a full glint heal.
I mean, condi bombing revs might work really well if you can get it, but that’s literally rev’s only weakness. Their ONLY one.
