Its more a case of once again Anet does things kitten backwards, almost every game has Diminishing Returns on CC, the players have asked in the past for DR on CC and what do we get ? Stacking CC … theres no need for CC to stack, if they wanted CC to last longer they should have upped the duration of CC instead of allowing stacking.
The stat difference is so little between gear, its not a case of people thinking gear=skill. I have 8 80’s each with at least two set of gear some with up to 5 sets, I don’t consider my gear skill but I do think the time and money I spent on gear matters more than those people that are to lazy to get the gear. People asking for SPvP gear just want an easy free setup they don’t have to work for. If you think your losing fights because others have better gear I have some bad news for you.
8 80’s with multiple sets of gear, no thnx I’ve spent far to much time and money gearing my characters. I have zero interest in PvE so all that gear would just be a waste this would be a deal breaker for me. Not to mention the amount of time spent on crafting to get geared.
Play SPvP if you want this, and for the food being banned … its available to everyone.
Have to agree, just get rid of it all together, players did fine before they could stack it and they will do fine after its gone. If your class can not make use of its immobilize within the intended duration then that is a player problem not a game issue.
3. Don’t announce how the servers will be split up before the start of the season.
Announcing how the servers would be split resulted in player movement to/from servers.
ArenaNet could have simply said, “There would be WvW Season One and servers will be split into leagues where servers are matched with competitive servers.”
Yeah I wish we didn’t know what the split was going to be. I know we all would of loved being in a 2 league NA, 1-12 and 13-24.
/sarcasm.
I don’t understand what you are attempting to convey. I said as two separate points that they shouldn’t have announced how the leagues would be split up. Players claim that it caused a massive migration to 3 servers. ArenaNet has the data to determine whether this is correct or not, but from the outside this is how it appears.
Furthermore, the point that I made immediately before point #3 would indicate that 4 leagues would have been better than 2… Currently the bottom of each league couldn’t compete with the top of the league they were paired with. However the top of bronze fighting the bottom of silver (as an example) would have been a better match up.
I’m not understanding what you mean when you say “Don’t tell us what the split will be”, if I’m reading it right your suggesting they don’t tell us what servers will be in which league. They wouldn’t need to tell us because it would be sheer stupidity on their part to not break out the servers in order. Top 3 ranks would be diamond, the following 6 would be gold and so on and so forth. Maybe I’m just not understanding what you are trying to say.
This is the norm for all games that have an world PvP map, its been happening for years. Once players figure out a meta that allows for them to fight and win against overwhelming odds it quickly spreads. Its the rush of going up against overwhelming odds and coming out on top, they usually work at this and have rotations and a playstyle that allows for them to achieve this. All it takes is for 1 pug to throw down the wrong field ontop of the Guilds field and things can go sideways very fast. Or as others have pointed out some GC pugs following and becoming rally bait for the opposition. I see nothing wrong with a guild wanting to do their own thing, I will say there is no need for them to be rude about it but sometimes people just don’t listen and follow anyways.
If they don’t want you to follow them I don’t see the issue, just don’t follow them.
No, the CD thread was just a distraction, they never really intended to do anything. Lets face it our Dev is probably the most stubborn of all of them, time and again he has shown if its not his idea he just doesn’t care. Not very good for business, I’m sure Anet will wise up one day.
you pver’s have been keeping me from even stepping foot into wvw these last few weeks, the que times where horrible.
future advice for gamers of any game:
DO WHAT YOU LOVE IN A GAME, NOT WHAT GIVES FAT LOOT
I dont blame the PvE folks for coming out to get the Achievement or the loot, we even managed to retain some as, full time WvW players now, but I don’t think you have to worry about them falling for it again. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.
It seems a lot of you people are defending the season rewards because “we expected it to be bad”. To expect something to be bad is no reasons to defend bad decisions. It would have taken them less than a day of work to implement a unique backpack skin, or something, and that would have made me happy.
Anet can, and should have, done this better.
I personally I am defending the rewards, they suck and ould have been achieved with 5 minutes of PvE. What I have been defending is the fact that no one seems to learn, when was the last time you received a decent reward from WvW ? Now what made you think that Anet would suddenly change and shower you with gold and fortunes ?
I’ve said it before, Anet is notorious for terrible rewards in WvW, how many towers, keeps, camps, castles have we all taken and constantly received green or blue items ? If your lucky once a week you might get a yellow and an exo maybe once a month, and yet people are shocked that the rewards sucked ?
Its mind boggling thb, you want rewards ? Go run fractals and dungeons 24/7 because your not going to get them in WvW.
I’m more surprised that people are shocked by the rewards. There’s not anything in game to date is really worth while for the rewards. Run dungeons/fractals or get garbage, blues, greens, even yellows … these are not rewards and never have been they are more or less vendor junk.
Its pretty funny that people really thought they were going to get anything worthwhile.
kinda odd here, looks like fighting in gold isnt very healthy. early numbers have the silver top 3 beating the 4,5,6 in gold. But, maybe its just a reset thing.
I think its more of a case of 7 weeks fighting uphill peeps are just taking small breaks and not taking things to seriously atm. I could be wrong but I know I only played a couple hours then called it a night. FA has seemed to get much bigger, not a complaint or insult so much as an observation.
yeah, FA is riding high, but we ll see how that balances out. Also its still just the weekend. Interesting though
Indeed, this week will just be relaxing and fun for me at least. Those were a brutal 7 weeks, alot of fun at times but still brutal. I think many deserve a much needed blob break.
Now we just have to sort out these gold league burnouts.
I love these statements. Mag was never a T2 server in the first place, nothing at all to do with burnout. You silver league hero’s that didn’t bother fighting for your spot in gold, can have your ranks back now that it is safe.
kinda odd here, looks like fighting in gold isnt very healthy. early numbers have the silver top 3 beating the 4,5,6 in gold. But, maybe its just a reset thing.
I think its more of a case of 7 weeks fighting uphill peeps are just taking small breaks and not taking things to seriously atm. I could be wrong but I know I only played a couple hours then called it a night. FA has seemed to get much bigger, not a complaint or insult so much as an observation.
The only thing I can really think of that a ranger would be good for is the AoE root, thats it. They have a water field I guess thats something.
That is plenty. AoE roots when used correctly are amazing. Enemy are using stability? Root them, boon strip them and destroy them. Enemy are zerging? Drop your AoE roots and bust up their stack. They also have plenty of survivability if built for it, and one of the best water fields in the game.
Rangers are seriously underrated imo.
Your right it is amazing but, when every other class has 4-5 (just throwing out random numbers) utility skills and they have 1 … its not as important as the ones with 4-5. I love my ranger, its alot of fun to roam with but I feel pretty useless in a zerg situation aside from entangle which lets not forget is an elite so its CD is not that of a regular utility skill, not that I’m suggesting it should be.
Anything a ranger can do for a zerg another class can do better, they simply do not have enough utility. The only thing I can really think of that a ranger would be good for is the AoE root, thats it. They have a water field I guess thats something.
If this game went to 1 vs 1 for server I would quit, might as well play WoW or Rift or one of the other 100 1 team vs 1 team games out there. Even ESO has the common sense to see why the three team system works better. Look at DAoC, its a dinosaur but people are still paying to play it, let me assure you its not for the PvE.
No I don’t plan on playing ESO, I was just using it as an example.
No, having a 3rd realm/server/faction/whatever is what helps to create balance. Granted GW2 has some serious balance issues as far as populations ect but, having the tri battle aspect is at least imo a much better system and has always trumped the dual system in every game I’ve played.
Now if Ebay could please just step it up a notch and close that gap it would be great ! Don’t let SBI fool you with all this fight honorable crap, they would double team you in a heartbeat if the opportunity was there.
Servers that have had people transferring to preform things like building all kinds of siege, waisting supply, to give their server and advantage should be van from any kind of reward since they didn’t play by the rules.
This makes perfect sense, punish an entire server for the actions of a few. This is a very well thought out suggestion ……
explain to me how its not cheating? 35 Yaks Bend escorting 15 E-bay for a cap.
Sigh, in order for it to be cheating, it must be against the rules. It is not against the rules for two server to double team one therefore it is not cheating. I made it simple so you will understand.
Its not cheating, stop whining. I’m sure SBI is full of honorable soles that would never double team a server … not even when trying to push themselves into gold league …
The seasons were setup wrong, those servers that come first didn’t really have to work for it all that much. Gold had BG who from what I understand only really had to worry about JQ and I’m not even sure if JQ was an issue for them.
There’s a lot of us on BG that would disagree with that first part. A lot of us put in significant hours every day/night to secure the win. You could argue that if we hadn’t there might have been someone else in queue to take our spot but that doesn’t take away from the effort we put in. And as for BG having nothing to worry about, please go back and check the forums the week prior to season start. You’ll find most posts assumed JQ had it in the bag, with SOR being a likely second.
….The current situation has parallels to the pre-Draft NFL. ….
Most obvious way of doing that is spreading loot in such a way that it encourages players to move to reinforce servers with inferior performance. I’m not convinced that this is the best way, but it would at least be fairly easy to do. There are other ways of doing it, including the (I think) ineffectual approach Anet is taking of relying on queue wait time boredom to convince the players to move (which Edge of the Mists will eliminate).
You bring up a valid point. However, unlike the NFL, players are free to switch teams at anytime, even mid-season. If there was a draft where servers picked guilds or players and they were locked into that server, it would work. But at the end of the day, some will value winning over all else. They would rather sit in queue for hours and “win” than play the game they paid for. I don’t agree that rewarding “inferior performance” is the right way to go. Rewarding a team for losing just goes against the concept of competition. You may balance some servers a bit but I think you’d lose a lot of folks from WvW in general.
All that aside, I think most of, if not all, of the WvW leadership on BG want better balance. Despite what you may read here, as a community we don’t like lopsided match ups either. The BG war council have asked guilds looking to join BG to consider other servers. We are looking to rebalance at the end of seasons. How successful that will be remains to be seen.
I may have worded it wrong, I’m not suggesting you didn’t put in time/effort, I’m trying to say you only really had 1 server to worry about. I don’t play on BG so I’m not sure how much effort was needed to beat JQ, but the other servers SoR included didn’t pose much of a threat. It wasn’t meant as an insult, I was trying to point out how the schedule didn’t really match servers against servers that would equate to more even matches. SoS, Mag, FA, SBI, TC, YB would have been a better league setup then splitting the 6 into 2 different leagues.
Edit: As for reading the forums before Leagues, what does that have to do with how the Leagues actually played out ? The fact is BG had 1 server to worry about which was JQ, all the posts in the world will not change this. As I said it wasn’t meant as an insult, its the simple truth.
I don’t think you will hear many WvW players argue, its a pretty basic concept, if we want to PvE they have a number of maps we can go to in order to do so. I still think if they continue on this route they should open the flood gates for us (WvW) people to go into PvE and start ganking, the tears would be endless and maybe just maybe it might sink into the heads of Anet.
The issue I have Ascended gear is Laurels, there is far to many currencies in GW2. I hate that I’m forced to do Dailies/Monthlies in order to get Laurels which are needed to gear up, I just want to WvW without feeling like I have to complete some random crap I have no interest in doing.
Badges of Honor are the WvW currency and have been from day 1, why does Anet feel we need to earn more types of currencies for the aspect of the game that we enjoy ? Make Acsended cost a repulsive amount of Badges for all I care just get rid of the Laurel cost.
OP could have transfered off BG once the League started to avoid Queue’s while still recieving BG’s rewards. No its not the ideal option because it requires transfering which requires gold or money but it is an option.
I don’t understand this thread ? There will be 3 winners, one for each League. There is little to predict, it’s kinda of like saying I predict tomorrow will be Friday ….
The seasons were setup wrong, those servers that come first didn’t really have to work for it all that much. Gold had BG who from what I understand only really had to worry about JQ and I’m not even sure if JQ was an issue for them. Silver had FA who only really had to worry about SBI which again I don’t think was to much of an issue for them. Bronze Had HoD and I could be wrong but I don’t think they really had any competition ?
The League could been setup alot better than it was, Your always going to have a problem with the top 3 servers depending on who stacks the most but the other 21 servers could have definately been setup better than they were.
Anet has rewarded blobing/Zerging more than any other aspect of WvW so that is how most people play, because that it how most people play survivability is an enormous factor. Warrior and Guardian have the best survivability when it comes to large scale fights so it makes sense that they will be the most played. This won’t change until Anet stops making Blobs the only worth while playstyle as far as rewards and what not.
I’m not against people blobbing, its part of the game but it shouldn’t be the only viable part and lets face it aside from survivability, Guards/Warrs just bring alot more to the table then (most) other classes in terms of all around viability. For a game that tried so hard to avoid the holy trinity they really missed the mark as far as not “needing” certain classes.
One would think it would be easy to implement, one would also think setting up a Queue properly would be easy but they can’t manage that either so I wouldn’t hold your breath.
It could also be the obvious, SBI has won and doesn’t need to fight hard today so they are resting up for reset, there is really no need for SBI to show up today after looking at millenium. It seems DB took advantage of this before BP.
The answer is no, first I’ll point out that the WvW community is not the enitre player base, second I’ll point out that the forum posters are not the entire player base.
Without complaints you cannot fix something you may have missed, Dev’s are human and yes they do miss things. I’ll agree that alot of the complaints are silly but that does not mean they should all be ignored. To put on your blinders and turn your cheek to some of the glaring issues being complained about is more of a problem then the complaints themselves.
I see so much stealth hate. I don’t know how people survived in wow where thieves were permanently stealth. I think it’s an l2p issue. Thieves are easy to kill as long as you don’t panic and don’t suck.
I think its more the unlimited vanish availability, perma stealth allows for opening followed by a vanish and another opener, when a class can vanish numerous times such as the GW2 thief its just bad design imo.
I would welcome perma stealth vs unlimited vanish/small kitten nal of battle reseting abilities, that they currently have. Theres just not enough risk/reward surrounding the thief class, its all reward with almost no risk. In the end it doesn’t matter to me all that much, I just ignore thieves when possible because I naturally assume that its a bad player.
You need to be specific in what you ask for, random matchups in Anet’s definition could mean Rank 1 server vs. Rank 24 followed by them telling us this is what we asked for and no need to thank them.
