Well this is Anet support most updated response to this issue or at least what they ‘copy/pasted’
Issues like the one you reported often are complex to resolve, and the time it takes to fix them can vary widely based on the severity and complexity of each issue. Because of this we are unable to provide a timeframe in which the issue might be resolved
I asked in support for refund on transfer, but they didn’t reply. They really should because these transfers are expensive. Basically a whole $25 gem card one way. $50 for both.
He should be refunded; being charged for transferral only to find it breaks your game isn’t acceptable.
As for this thread, I’ve just accepted now that I may as well just stick to my alt account on EU and leave my r56 on NA to rot.
Is it just me or are people just guessing when it comes to which team won. TC = TEAM CURSE = before named as team paradigm. They were not representing EU due to reasons Im not going to explain aldow they won the qualifiers against CC.
The tourney PAX was won by CAR CRASH = CC (representing EU) and they won against Sync (representing NA). The score was 3-0.
Even if they didn’t do much with spirit rangers, I’d love to see glass ele viable..
I originally did all that theorycrafting with hammer builds because I had a friend working out fresh air ele bulds. Would be great seeing that duo in the meta.
Phaeton+Kazuno: I’m going to have to disagree with you here.
See, the hammer being both heavily telepgraphed , AND slow, means that there is a low skill cap on its use, and a high skill cap to counter it.
Any half decent player who dodges wisely can literally neuter this weapon. There are only two truly dangerous skills, F1 and #5. Dodge those, and that hammer warrior is a free kill. CD for 5 is 30s, and CD for F1 is roughly 10. It can be shortened, but hammer is slow to build up adrenaline which tends to mean its actually more like 15s or so.
Basically dodge a highly telegraphed Earthshaker every 10-15s, and dodge a highly telepgraphed #5 Backbreak every 30s, and you can win without breaking a sweat. And for those times you do screw up, there are teleports, stunbreaks, stability, etc.
I’ll say it again for emphasis: There is a low skill cap on its use, and a high skill cap on its counter
Well I’ll have to put some vids up when I start up again proper. You clearly have never faced a decent hammer warrior.
I think any decent player would want a glass power meta.
Unfortunately it’s also the least forgiving for new players, so there’s the dilemma of how to attract new players that won’t QQ after being one-shotted.
This is pretty much the situation as I’m aware; it was certainly how they justified the quickness nerf to the pvp crowd.
With regards to WvW this seems like a latency issue… In tpvp there is NO NEED to buff hammer.
Hammer is VERY STRONG in the right hands as it stands, if you made it easier then anyone could run it. And the weakness is still useful (otherwise the likes of lich form would be an insta win).
You know I wouldn’t say it if I didn’t believe this.
Hammer is fine, just practise it/learn enemy frames. I’ll happily show you the ropes when I get back to playing.
I want them to give warriors the ability to quadra wield greatswords so that i can hundred blades while i whirling attack while i bladetrail while i sword rukitten
I don’t play a Warrior, but I’m considering starting one to have a heavy armor profession.
Is this build useful in PvE at all? I really like the moveset and aesthetic of the Hammer as well as the concept behind the build, but I do a lot more PvE than WvW. I’m not super concerned about mega min-max, but how far off is this build relative to more PvE-centric builds?
Although I’m far from an expert when it comes to pve, I’d imagine that many bosses are immune to the hard cc a hammer brings (I may be wrong).
Warriors have very strong weapons in pve though, you can always save the hammer for WvW (or come to the mists and pvp with the big boys)
No. It will not do anything significant on a staff ele.
Staff ele is mainly, as everyone knows a large scale weapon. Melee train always has extreme amount of condition removal, best raids are basicly immune to conditions. In combination of -40% food and melandru runes aswell.
There are so few conditions elementalist can apply that you can’t provide any shadowing stacks of other conditions, and you cannot reapply constant stream of conditions. If you have played engineer or necro the difference should be quite obvious.
And staff ele has way too few interupts anyway.
Using Shamans is close to the worst thing you could do for large scale staff.
Don’t think you quite get the nature if this thread.
Anas build is a roaming build. This one can do things that a dps roaming build can’t however, like hold a point neut vs a bunker + roamer. Like you mentioned sustain in a fight is also big plus.
I tried valks hammer before the signet buff and didn’t find it appealing too. However now if you can utilise the additional sustain/dps this can be a really effective ammy.
I dont understand how long ur stun takes but I have a pretty hard time getting an entire chain off w/o my enemy running away ;(
Having decent Internet helps a lot XD.. Also bulls charge is a great free cc if things go sour, which many other hammer builds don’t have the luxury of. It’s always better to overkill the cc if you’re uncertain about getting the hits in. This is certainly a skill cap build for hammer mace warriors though, there’s a build described below with much stronger sustain if players are getting away.
so yeah running three warrior builds right now.
1. 0/0/30/20/20 rifle/s shield for sky hammer trolling
2. Build above when my team is already stacking classes like spirit rangers and guardians and some hard roaming cleave is needed.
3. A build very similar to this https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/PvP-Build-Hammerfall/first#post2654089
But with a valks amulet and hammer mace shield. On eu it can hold up as a makeshift bunker against/with decent players, and on NA… It’s just hilarious in a team scenario.
The loss of dps to the mace/bulls charge makes it trickier to kill from a single stun lock however.
When I used to run glass GS axe I went 30/0/0/10/30 Lyssa runes, which is much more viable than 30/25/0/0/15 beyond the lowest of tiers.
In this unblockable condi training meta however it’s simply too hard to make effective IMO. So if this is spvp I’d recommend checking out that skull cracker 3.0 post for a decent GS build.
I took the plunge. It does work on shocking aura, and it seems to proc almost every fight from regular hits.
condi ele new meta..? Shame we can’t get it in spvp
Heh. Wait until you run into other condi classes running them before you say you wish they were in spvp.
Haha well aware of how broken they would be. Heard powerr say though the main reason they’re not in spvp is because the spvp team don’t develop new runes (ie have little control over them).
Yup ran this for about a month although prefer using the synergy of mace hammer (generally swapped to this spec to replace a bunker) rest was the same though except obviously the condi cleanse can be swapped up for EP depending on the comp.
And yeah remember how unsuccessful you were with that build defective, fought a few hammer warrior teams back then.. only to have someone like fivegauge demolish them ><.
It’s a different beast now though.. Glad to see you and Anas getting the right idea.
Tested out 30/10/0/0/30 (thats lyssa/healing surge) again the other day, it’s still the best if you just intend on roaming/stun locking, but isn’t as balanced and won’t lock down a team fight.
Only other thing I’ll say is try it with a valks ammy/jewel, be interested to see how you find it…
For a hammer it’s usually 0/10/30/0/30, although the build I put out last month is still viable if you’re Schmidt hot at stun locking (in spvp), and that’s 30/10/0/0/30 soldiers and mace main hand.
Defence traits are much more forgiving though
To the poster above, you’ll need 30 in discipline to properly utilise burst.
In my opinion at least, and with the other buffs the rune gives, it’s really not worth it. Sure you will get confusion on a few people in a large fight, but they will likely clense it off right away if they are a decent player or with a decent group. Other runes would give far more effective buffs that work with better builds the ele runs. If you look at it in terms of a roaming staff ele build, well… It doesn’t really matter what runes you use, you’re suicidal :P
Erm not sure about other runes giving better buffs, was more about if these runes could bring up that specific spec to be viable in WvW.
I’m no WvW expert, but in spvp this would be a huge boost to condition eles.. Would be a shame if it wasn’t useable due to condi cleanse spamming.
Well, I can see how many unknown teams will grab the chance and sign up with 5 spirit rangers.
Hope this isn’t a dig at sync dude, the players were known even if the team wasn’t.
And sorry jin the accent threw me ><
Well to be honest all I see is a meta abuse on SYNC’s behalf. When this Meta is changed, I want to see how good they will do (unless they get 2 players same class on FOTM builds again, swapping out spirit ranger)
Fair enough. These aren’t half baked ideas, but if you guys aren’t feeling them then that’s that.. As for other suggestions, after experiencing how useless the leap is on fiery greatsword (when not using the glitch >: ) is, as well as adding more mobility to an already highly mobile weapon, I’m not sure how adding another leap would work.
The HB burst skill idea was actually originally posed by J S.. I think…. But clearly people want to keep things simple and I’m cool with that.
You bring up an interesting point. I am only focusing on the trait. I think its out of place. I do not care so much about the build but the cost of having such a strong damaging enhancing skill so low in the line. If you want me to argue why or why not Mac Shield is Op I can do that elsewhere but rather not spend my time going over the particulars. In this case given how powerless critical chance is as a dps modifier I find it strange that access require so few points.
You can bring up mace shield how it wont be touched etc. However, that has nothing to do with my point.
This “Clearly moving the trait would nerf all cc warriors heavily, not just mace GS sustain builds.” How so? I wouldn’t effect the main goal of the build in anyway (that would be crowd control). Unless your trying to say a strong CC build also needs access to strong sustained DPS?
I’m not talking about mace shield. But that’s beside the point.
And yes I am saying unequivocally that a strong cc build needs access to strong dps. I don’t see how you can argue this point.
Sic..
Most big time TPvPers don’t seem to have a major problem with Warrior as it is currently. I only feel the need to respond to these posts because I want the Devs to see that is is just a small, vocal minority that doesn’t represent the community at large.
That may be true. However it really doesn’t matter. In terms of what the trait does and how often you have access to stuns how long they last I think the point is valid. For example Heightened Focus provides much less of a benefit and is a grandmaster trait. Right-Handed Strength provides less and is also a GM trait. I have to ask are you saying a 50% increase with this much access to stun is fine as an adept trait? If so who aren’t all the other skills that provide that type of benefit lower in other classes trees.
Also class balancing has to be looked at cross class. In this case there is no argument for why it shouldn’t be moved up besides it would cost more of an investment. That could said of any GM trait tbh. There has to be trade offs for damage. It is on of the basics.
This is the worst suggestion I have ever heard in the history of video games.
Books could be written on the ways this would ruin the warrior profession.
Months ago very few warriors ran this trait so I probably would ruin the profession.
True. But months ago axe/GS could work in the right hands. Now we have unblockable fear trains for that! I’ve made another post about this however, one that doesn’t argue points by comparing the traits of other classes…
Feel free to make sarcy comments in that, I probably deserve it.
No I have no need to. My comment was not sarcastic just factual. Your’s however was. I understand what your saying but it still does not justify a skill that good being such a small investment. I do not care about the fear train. This trait seems out of place.
Firstly heightened focus shouldn’t be a GM. For the interests of balance they effectively took this skill out of pvp usage.
I was referring to my sarcasm. And you know what, I care about warriors getting fear trained.
Because I actually play the class.
yes yes I know. I plat warrior thus i am right and your wrong. I retort I play warrior also. And we go like that. I do now care about the fear train because this simply has nothing to do with it. If you want fear nerfed go bother necros. Unsuspecting foe is too good for an adept trait. What does that have to do with fear. Ohh that right your DPS vs a necro, except the fact is you’ll still be able to stun lock one to death, have one of the strongest access to stability in the game, and fill all your utility slots with defensive traits. So no I do not care bout the fear train it’s off topic.
Unless you plan to discuss why a 50% critical hit chance trait is adept then I do not see why you bother replying?
I only mentioned it because you stated that warriors didn’t used to run the trait. Well that’s why we started. I started shortly before the necro patch and posted a stun lock build in the forums shortly after. Many other warriors have since seen the benefits of cc, something arenanet have said In interview to be a specific goal for warrior meta.
What frustrates me about this thread is you seem to be discussing the trait and not the builds its used in. Clearly moving the trait would nerf all cc warriors heavily, not just mace GS sustain builds.
And as I pointed out mace GS would if anything be nerfed the least by this change.
Sic..
Most big time TPvPers don’t seem to have a major problem with Warrior as it is currently. I only feel the need to respond to these posts because I want the Devs to see that is is just a small, vocal minority that doesn’t represent the community at large.
That may be true. However it really doesn’t matter. In terms of what the trait does and how often you have access to stuns how long they last I think the point is valid. For example Heightened Focus provides much less of a benefit and is a grandmaster trait. Right-Handed Strength provides less and is also a GM trait. I have to ask are you saying a 50% increase with this much access to stun is fine as an adept trait? If so who aren’t all the other skills that provide that type of benefit lower in other classes trees.
Also class balancing has to be looked at cross class. In this case there is no argument for why it shouldn’t be moved up besides it would cost more of an investment. That could said of any GM trait tbh. There has to be trade offs for damage. It is on of the basics.
This is the worst suggestion I have ever heard in the history of video games.
Books could be written on the ways this would ruin the warrior profession.
Months ago very few warriors ran this trait so I probably would ruin the profession.
True. But months ago axe/GS could work in the right hands. Now we have unblockable fear trains for that! I’ve made another post about this however, one that doesn’t argue points by comparing the traits of other classes…
Feel free to make sarcy comments in that, I probably deserve it.
No I have no need to. My comment was not sarcastic just factual. Your’s however was. I understand what your saying but it still does not justify a skill that good being such a small investment. I do not care about the fear train. This trait seems out of place.
Firstly heightened focus shouldn’t be a GM. For the interests of balance they effectively took this skill out of pvp usage.
I was referring to my sarcasm. And you know what, I care about warriors getting fear trained.
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