Guild Wars 2

Mentalhead.5721:

I so agree with this one. In addition, I think that WvW achievements, dungeons, Mystic Forgesmith, personal story achievements, along with Crab Toss, Keg Brawl, and Custom Brawl should be “extra achievements” since I know many players that don’t do those in their daily routine.

But that’s exactly the reason why they are part of the dailies: to encourage players to try out new things, off their usual path.

Dailies made me try out costume brawl and keg brawl for the first time, along with other things.

I think it’s a good system.

Thanks for the link, that’s very helpful.

I’ll keep my fingers crossed for “blighted”.

I don’t expect Canach’s antics to have anything to do with dragons either (similar to the molten alliance forming wihtout any doing of Primordius, as far as we know anyway). But it is fun to think the “what ifs”. ….

Unsolicited guild invites are the equivalent of Jehova’s Witnesses uninvitedly showing up on my door step.

I can think of many logical reasons for ANet to not give me a free profession change OR a Harley but I can’t really think of a good reason why Southsun Punch wouldn’t count towards “drinks consumed”.

It’s not like people will magically get the achievement out of nowhere, Southsun Punch is still limited in supply. But it could have been an additional motivation to play Crab Toss for a little longer / a few more times.

PS: heroes’ elixir bottles are free, too.

I’ve said it in other threads.

Whether you like it or not – ANet has invested dev time in creating Crab Toss. As long as some players enjoy it, I see no reason to remove it. It is easy enough to ignore for everybody else.

What is there to gain from removing it?
- Showing players that some content is temporary and that they have to return to GW2 frequently so they don’t miss out. But we already know this because of the PvE content and achievements.

What is there to gain from leaving it in?
- More time for players to gain difficult achievements
- Better chance for players to play with their own friends/guild once fewer people play Crab Toss
- Overall larger variety of mini-games throughout Tyria – a good thing

Suppose Southsun just sinks into the ocean forever, Crab Toss would have to go, too. But I don’t see that happen. And anyway, there would be ways to retain Crab Toss in another location.

I vote for leaving it in. Whether or not I personally plan on revisiting it shouldn’t and won’t be the deciding factor. Leave it in for everyone who likes to play.

Edit: obviously, nerf the rewards a little. But that should be easy to do.

I would like to add that if they Crab Toss Daily achievement rotated through a few more different things, that would help too in making it more inclusive, and catering to more different players’ abilities and playing styles:

- Crab Toss Champion,
- crab grabs,
- crab carries,
- denies and
- evades

As for the Crab Toss Daily as such, I would be happier if it rotated between Crab Toss Champion, crab grabs, crab carries, denies and evades to give it a little more variety and cater to different players’ abilities and preferred playing styles though.

mbevangelista.2978:

Why force people to do silly stuff just to accomplish their daily anyway?

Who forces you?

I get my dailies every day without crab toss, keg brawl, costume brawl, dungeons or WvW; same as before the Southsun story.

There’s always 5 or more dailies that you can do without any of the “special” stuff, just play playing regular PvE.

For example, today:

- Daily Kill Variety
- Ascalonian Veteran Killer
- Daily Gatherer
- Group Event Completer
- Daily Feast

As a bonus
- Personal Story Completer
- Mystic Forgesmith

This is without Crab Toss, Costume Brawl, or WvW.

Frankly, I don’t see the problem.

It doesn’t really matter. You or your friend should pick a class that is fun for them to play.

I’ve played in a tag team with my boyfriend as a Thief + Engineer combo since release and we managed fine, even though some people on here will tell you that that isn’t ideal. Other times I grouped up with a friend who is a ranger, and we did really well too.

I’ve run dungeons with all sorts of class mixes, sometimes without any tank builds, no warriors or guardians, and that works, too. Sometimes this means that you can’t brute force yourself through a mob and have to play differently, i.e. pull more individual enemies instead of zerging a mob; but I enjoy that playstyle which is why I play ranged weapon characters all the time.

So, whatever, really. Pick a class/playstyle that is fun for you, then you can’t go wrong.

… that would give people an additional reason to play Crab Toss…

I experienced this occasionally, but this has gotten a lot worse for me over the course of the last week. Whether it has anything to do with the latest patch or with the fact that I upgraded to 64bit windows I don’t know.

My friends list is virtually empty sometimes; I can’t whisper people back because allegedly they’re offline; I can’t see people in my party; or sometimes I can see them in the party list (listed as offline, but still showing with their portraits) but cannot see their blue dots on the mini-map.

This makes more advances tasks (like dungeon runs / fractals) really, really hard. I rely on the information how (health bar) and where (mini-map) other group members are.

There’s also item names that contain “forbidden strings” (e.g. Maw Of The… Darned), so when you ping them, they get censored in chat (and here on the forums). (Not to mention some NPCs dialogue also containing words that are censored when players say them.)

The whole thing is a little inconsistent, even in English.

I’m fine with the OPs idea.

(I would prefer the scavenger hunt because that sounds like it could be fun, but if that’s not coming, then I’d take a precursor for AP, too.)

I agree that 3 weeks is a better duration for temporary content than 2. Or you could introduce new content after 2 weeks, but allow for an overlap wherever the story makes this possible…

GreenNekoHaunt.8527:

Necromancer + Whip:
— ?
— ?
— ?
+ Snakes Grab – Transforms the whip into a snake immobilizing and poisoning your enemies.
+ Dark Domination – Sends fear upon your enemies.

These make complete sense to me!

Yes, I would.

I love exploring the most and after map completion, what I really want to see is new areas. I would absolutely be willing to pay for them.

I would like to see some screenshots of characters that aren’t Sylvari and are using the fervid censer.

Circling Skies.1872:

Whips- Cool addition that you don’t see in many games. What would the skills be for it? Main and off hand? What classes would you like to see use the whip?

Yes, main hand and off-hand… I made a somewhat extensive thread about it here: Weapon Type – Whip (It is now in the “Suggestions” subforum.)

… because I’d like if we could keep the discussion going independently of the Southsun Living Story arc. (This forum will soon get locked.)

What the others said.

*Contra Southsun: —> If you like to solo, *this might not be the best idea
- in general, areas with hearts/vistas/POIs/WPs have more “free exp”
- Southsun is harder to survive / fighting mobs takes longer, so you fight fewer
- you may not have the levels to gather

*Pro Southsun: —> If you like to group up *or even zerg, this is a good opportunity
- it doesn’t matter where you do events as long as you do them
- new fun stuff, temporary content, now or never
- highly populated, so many people around to do group events with

And in general
- go where you have fun

Best advice ^.

At the time of Halloween, Wintersday and even Southsun, I was travelling for work a lot and had other things on my mind. I completed none (I think) of the related achievements. I did the Wintersday dungeon thing a couple of times only. I didn’t do either of the jumping puzzles.

I only got my Southsun reward chest because my boyfriend literally dragged me into the game for that event.

Later when I had to travel less for work, my schedule opened up a bit. I’ve been playing a lot more in the last 3 months. Sometimes I wish I had done the jumping puzzles, or at least gathered some of the crafting materials. But that’s not the choices I made at the time.

I do have my occasional regrets, but the decisions were my own, not ANet’s.

I also found out that the few times in my life when I missed something amazing due to circumstances I really, really couldn’t have changed (ranging from childbirth to funerals), I honestly didn’t care about amazing but trivial things anymore.

I support this.

I’m at least partly in this for the story.

I like to solve some of the mystery myself. I do really appreciate the additional information and guidance after the early chapters of F&F left so many players clueless, but any information displayed in game early should come with a spoiler warning… or at the appropriate time

kiwiburner.2186:

Since you posed your question in such a presumptive and prejudiced way, I’m sure they’ll be happy to tell you.

This ^^

We’ll know soon enough whether it is a Dung-eon or Fun-geon…
… but there was so much positive feedback on the MF, I’m sure ANet will go further in that direction.

In before Drixelpumpkin

Those “contrast outfits” look pretty amazing.

I love both back pieces, unfortunately neither of them are anything any of my characters would want to wear, but I know I’ll keep them in my bank forever – maybe a future character of mine will be more the style.

Anyway, well done ANet, love the effects on them very much, too.

Morrigan.2809:

HiddenNick.7206:

So what are they? Those two back items are all that I can look forward to?

I know about the new skins but let’s be honest… They aren’t so pretty and nearly unobtainable by regular player.

What do you mean they are unobtainable?
I really wanted the Flower back piece and I got it in two days- it only took me this long because I had very little time to play.
I am as regular as they come!

I think the OP was talking about the weapon skins. Those are… pretty much unobtainable.

lordkrall.7241:

Why do people always think that the pricing should be based on the gold to gem rate?

Okay.

I can buy a mobile crafting station and skip a loading screen for one euro.
Or I can wait through 15 seconds worth of loadings screens, craft in LA, and eat one euro worth of ice cream in real life.

In the world of micro transactions, one euro is a lot of money – I’m with the OP, I think it is too much money. You get 15 minutes worthof crafting, but essentially you only SAVE a few seconds. Since you probably won’t craft inside a dungeon or fractal, there’s simply not enough reason to spend the money.

I’d rather have ice cream.

And secondly, style! What whip skins can’t you live without?
I’ll start:

• Standard adventuring leather whip (think Indy)
• Verdant “plant” whip
• Multy strain black leather gothy whip
• Colorful circus whip (similar to Quip)

JubeiTM.5763:

Oh boy I have to continue:

• A Snake (an actual daemon snake) or a long tentacle whip (perfect for Necro)
• Metal chain Whip (related)

And for the legendary

• Flaming Whip (related)

I have the same problem – I keep telling people to give GW a try and my only option would be to let them play on my account which obviously is the worst idea ever.

Canach has destroyed at least one molten facility and buddied up with Rox and Braham…

Vick.6805:

I agree that Crab Toss is not fun, and I was tempted to request that ANet remove it from the dailies, too. However, after talking to my guildies, there are people out there love it. It’s no different from the keg brawl dailies, which some people love, and some hate.

But it IS different from the keg brawl dailies. The keg brawl dailies rotate through different achievements (Keg Brawl Scorer, Keg Brawl Stealer, Keg Brawl Fumble Forcer) while Crab Toss is the same achievement every day (win a match).

The Crab Toss dailz should be similar to the Keg Brawl one – rotate through Crab Toss Champion, crab grabs, crab runs, and even other types from the “Top Player” list such as denies or evades.

That way, Crab Toss still would be in the dailies every day of the event, gently encouraging people to play, but give them different things to aim for. This would help experienced players against boredom, and inexperienced players because they might be better at evading than carrying. I, for instance, am a lot better at denying that crab grabbing and might even be tempted to take part in Crab Toss some more for a daily achievement point if denies were on the menu.

Wait, haven’t I seen Malia in Southsun? Or are there two separate refugees by that name?

Omg A Hotpocket.7683:

Beta Sprite.4169:

I have not seen a single Southsun Cove box. Perhaps I’m not playing as long as you (only ~2 hours a day), but it seems strange that I haven’t seen one. Perhaps I’m not killing enough Veteran Karkas. =/

All Southsun mobs have an equal chance of dropping the supply crates as far as I know. I’m with OP on this one as I already explained in another thread. Stop farming karkas, go farm skelks.

Yes, they all drop them, so stop farming skelks and kill mosquitos, they’re even faster and the respawns won’t aggro you in the back (I got several crates from animals.)

The crates also drop on whatever event mobs drop, so in any defend or skirmish events you have the same chance, with ADDED karma.

I have no idea, but I’ll add it to the post! Thanks!

This is great guys! Thank you for the input.

Sylentir.8913:

Where exactly do you want your damage to come from?

I’ve got my mind set on condition damage, I think.

Sylentir.8913:

In terms of traits, pick whatever enhances your primary source of damage. While the stat buffs are nice, it’s far more important to take the traits that enhance your weapon rather than the stats that enhance your damage type.

That is very useful information. Thanks a bunch. This makes it a lot easier for me to pick out stuff.

Sylentir.8913:

With all of these, you will be using your elixirs to stack useful boons on yourself, while dealing damage and supporting with your weapon abilities. Save Elixir S for when you are getting focused and need a reprieve, and in the builds with it, save elixir U for when you can be sure that you will have a full 6 seconds to unload your damage on your target.
If none of these builds look fun, then I’ll try and come up with more.

Again, very useful. I’ve used elixir U in this way under water a lot, but never in my regular toolbar.

My regular toolbar right now is:
- Elixir H
- Elixir Gun
- Bomb Kit for PvE (love the F3, too)
- Elixir B / Elixir C alternating, depending

When I use the elixir gun, I don’t need elixir C as it comes with its own “remove condition” skill, but when I need to remove conditions a lot (certain boss fights?), I add elixir C anyway. I guess I could use elixir U in the same slot, never really thought about this for some reason…

Sylentir.8913:

None of these builds are pro builds, none are OP FoTM builds, they’re just how a random person on the internet likes to play.

I am a random person on the Internet, too, so that’s fine

galandor.1059:

This is a dungeon build solely, it runs pistol/shield for more defense to protect yourself, and the shield 4 so that you can use it to trigger the aoe heal from your tool belt 1 slot.

The bombs will heal everyone in the group so when your bunched up you will be a real cleric. The elixir gun heal as well will be great for you and your group.

This is a very interesting take. I never saw the character as a healer type, but it is good to know that an engineer could be. I will have to think some more about whether I want to play this role in dungeons but it does sound fun.

Both your replies have been very inspiring.

What I learnt:

- fun traits are more important than stat points
- I should consider trying out shields
- engineers can be healers

I will play around with this some more and when I find a configuration that I think might work post it here!

Oh really? I’ve been playing 6 hours a day since Southsun release, found a total of 9-10 supply crates.

(No minis or weapon tickets.)

I don’t think that you can make a statistical claim based on just one person’s experience (I think you were very lucky with your drop rate.)

Vol.5241:

Yeah you’re understating the # of messages. You get this message if you spam a lot and admit it, you were spamming.

I get this message after exactly TWO private messages to my boyfriend. I can send two, I cannot send 3.

There is no understatement here.

My boyfriend and I send items to each other all the time, and frequently run into this error message after as much as 2 (!) messages in total.

This also makes it impossible to send food or potions to people I dungeon with.

It is super annoying.

Any “spam protection” mechanisms should take into account whether
- I am on the other person’s contact list
- we’re in the same party
… and adjust and hard limits accordingly.

Thanks guys, I added your findings to the top post!

Also the trap in the boat by pearl islet.

People complained about not having enough time to finish some of the F&F achievements (partly because some of them were bugged for a while).

So ANet extended some deadlines.

Other people said that there should always be an overlap between events.

Now people complain that the stuff is still around.

I don’t think ANet can win this, to be honest.

Okay, so I’ve levelled my engineer and traited (and outfitted) mostly going by gut feeling; now I think I want to turn her into a legitimate build. I read all the trait descriptions but they left me very confused. There is just too much information. I feel like a total n00b. :’-(

So I want to “properly” retrait and also get new exotic gear to match.

So maybe you have some input for me as to what specifically would be a good idea for me to do.

Some info:
- I mainly do PvE, and I want to get into dungeons and fractals more.
- I do PvP and WvW only sometimes and casually, so this shouldn’t be the main focus of the build
- I want to invest in toughness so I don’t feel SUPER squishy
- Right now, I mostly use the elixir gun and occasionally bombs. Also a fan of pistols (the rifle, not so much.)
- I can live without grenades, flamethrower, tools (I rarely use them) and I’m sort of “done” with turrets, except for the elite supply kit which is awesome.
- I’ve used the healing turret for the longest time. Right now I’m trying the other healing skill for the first time and I’m not sure yet whether I like it better or not. It does seem to give me more flexibility when I have to move around a lot.

My current build is 30/30/10/0/0 with
- exploit weakness
- incendiary power
- enhance performance
- hair trigger
- precise sights
- coated bullet
- explosive descent

So I think my build is all over the place right now and there is a lot to be optimized…

If there was one line that improves toughness, condition damage (or duration) and has elixir traits, that’d be the one I’d put all my points in, but sadly they’re spread out over 4 different trait lines What to do?

I’m grateful for any hints that help me unjumble this mess!

Except for “keg toss” actually being called “keg brawl”….
I could have lived with “crab brawl”…

I’m not a fan of “rigging achievements” (including mesmer portals, but that’s another story) but with Craptacular seeming simply out of reach to many players, I can understand the frustration.

I’d rather have an achievement than an acheatment, but I cannot honestly say whether or not I would have resorted to rigging it while running out of time to get the achievement.

I managed, but only because circumstances were in my favour one night.

I think other players who feel they are hopeless (literally) at crab toss would have benefitted from 1. ascending difficulty as they progress through the mini game, 2. more varied achievements and 3. being able to play with/against friends.

Reasoning and discussion I posted here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/southsun/Learning-from-Crab-Toss-some-thoughts

I should be called Crab Roll

Thanks, I added it to the 1st post.

I don’t know if you noticed but you can get the Southsun achievement reward backpieces (2 items this time) from the first day of the story arc till the last.

Sooooo the elder dragons all seem to have their different ways of gaining control over creatures (and people). These ones are obvious to me:

Zhaitan – “Risen”
Jormag – “Icebrood” or “Corrupted”
Kralkatorrik – “Branded”
Primordus – “Destroyer”

For Jormag it says “Icebrood” on the wiki, but “corrupted” seems to be a an early stage of it.

I am confused about the other dragons. I realise that there is a chance that they don’t turn creatures into their minions. Tequatl seems to hang out with Zhaitan’s minions a lot.

But I wonder if the Jungle Dragon’s adjective could be “blighted”… as this is the only adjective that has come up in Maguuma (I’ve seen it in conjunction with the jungle worm and inside Twilight Arbor). Somehow I wish the “bloated creepers” were “blighted creepers”.

Secondly, the Deep Sea Dragon. I know that the wildlife on Southsun is probably crazed because the Consortium disturbed it or because of whatever it is that Canach is up to. But COULD “crazed” have anything to do with the Deep Sea Dragon?

My OCD wants all dragons to have an equal share of adjectives that go with them.

Regarding the Jungle and Deep Sea Dragons: What are your thoughts? I am hungry for answers, even if it is only speculation at this point. (I would also appreciate and links to older forum topics, I didn’t find any myself.)

You could wait until the end of May when the next chapter is released and with it, the additional achievements get unlocked.

(Or you could do what most players do – let a mesmer portal you up to the end of the jumping puzzle. After 2.5 hours I think it’s safe to say you made an effort!)

Mastruq.2463:

Let them make their own polls if they care for our feedback.

I wish they did!

But, I like questionnaires and I believe in statistics, so I took the 1 seconds to answer the questions. Whether or not ANet takes this into consideration in coming upgrades isn’t of top relevance to me, but I’d like to see the results myself, especially mapped against data from earlier events.

:)

Crazylegsmurphy.6430:

Anyone who has ever played any organized sport ever will tell you that serious problems can arise when players are not divided by experience level. Online games are no different.

I had much the same thought last night. Before last night, Crab Toss made me feel like I was the fat kid running after the ball and never getting a pass before collapsing in the grass and being made fun of by the other kids.

I’ve never been good at team sports / ball games and I’ve never been on a team outside PE, which I think has a lot to do with my low frustration threshold and me being so slow to learn how to go about Crab Toss tactics.

So, in my own life, PE = bad, but playing casual/friendly/no pressure basketball with the other nerdy kids after school = good, and I think this shows why it would have been a good idea to allow players to play with their own friends.