Guild Wars 2

Honestly, I support the idea, at least about separate Q for 1-15 ranks.

Dredd Spirit Caller.4082:

engy decapper miss on stability
knock, launch, push, stun when he/she try to heal and u can kill him/her

Yes, you just need to have a class with a lot of knockbacks on short CD. Oh wait…

Vuh.1328:

Rename it
Allow for duo/trios(dno about trios but whatever) to queue up, make the match making try to put equal amount of duo/trio on each team.
Also rename all points to ABC
>_>
And remove Hot Join!

Duos/trios WILL ruin soloQ balance (“match making try to put equal amount” is NOT enough), so no. If you want to play as team, go to teamQ.

Well, it’s up to you to decide, but imo this is wrong approach.

But you are trying to ban meta and allowing eternal metaspec to participate isn’t best way to do it.

Are you playing guardian?

Yasha.5963:

We have had at least two polls about skyhammer and both showed an overwhelming majority hated it

And how much votes was in your poll? For me it’s more like “vocal minority”.

Main problem with WoW ArP in pvp was not bunker-busting (bunkers will be pretty fine), but ability to explode low-armor targets. Low-armor target + ArP = crazy burst. It will promote bunkering even more.

Lupanic.6502:

I love skyhammer. Many people love skyhammer

This.

emikochan.8504:

The double cooldown on a miss that we eles have to deal with (ride the lightning), should be universal for all mobility skills.

(and give half cooldown on lightning flash if used to engage a target)

Ok, then replace all teleport skills with leaps/charges and give them same double-CD mechanic. We want to be equal, right?

I don’t care about professions, but I LOVE killing asuras. Scream of dying asura for me is best sound in PvP ever.

Apply this to only 1 most damaging condition (so we not obliterating someone with multiple conditions) with damage >200 per tick (so it’s not some random single bleed) and it will be pretty good idea.

eleshazar.6902:

As to who runs greatsword on a Warrior? I have to assume you are either being sarcastic, or you have never logged into the game. In WvW there isn’t a single warrior that doesn’t have a greatsword on unless they are a hambow warrior which is pretty rare. And don’t get me started on GS on warrior in pve.

Pls, tell me your server with 100% GS warriors, I love free bags.

Any good dueling spec. Hambow is more team-oriented build, with huge hammer telegraphs and his damage was nerfed already.

Lemongrass – ~30s. Koi cake – ~2s. Not sure if -40% condition food need any nerfs.

xsquared.1926:

Rednik.3809:

Flash news: Warriors are already inferior to guardians in bunkering. And rifle build… lol.

Adren healing + Regen banners + Heal sig makes warriors a great bunker, i consider them on par with guardians when it comes to bunkering. Not to mention that warrior banners are AoE and pump out support to nearby allies, something which a guardian can’t do.

Guardian are much more superior in defensive team support (aoe stability+protection+aegis >>> banner+might+fury) and have better point control tools (hammer/shield/staff/sanctuary).

Flash news: Warriors are already inferior to guardians in bunkering. And rifle build… lol.

Marcos.3690:

Skyhammer and skill in the same post?

Whats happening to gw2 forums…

Being aware about your surroundings and being able to creatively use them for your advantage – considered as very skillful play in competitive pvp games.

New players trying tpvp – bad.
New players playing hotjoin – bad.
New players trying fotm specs – bad.
New players trying non-fotm specs – bad.
…
<insert something> – bad.

sPvP forums in a nutshell.

Give every class analog of Cleansing Ire in the power trait line. It will help to balance meta and make more power builds valuable.

Deniara Devious.3948:

Summary: Warrior has the best land speed and too much mobility.

Arguments “if he flees, you won” are moot for WvWvW. You don’t get any loot bags if the enemy managed to flee. Sending him/her back to the spawn area is the only counter, especially when you want to counter the enemy sniping your dolyaks or flipping your supply camps.

Warrior land speed comes mainly from these sources:
- permanent swiftness (warhorn + quick breathing trait +20% boon duration, signet of rage also gives swiftness)
- sword #2, 600 leap, 8 s cooldown
- greatsword #3, 450 whirl, 10 s cooldown
- greatsword #5, 1200, 20 s cooldown

Forceful greatsword, which is already a very powerful trait, granting might on critical hit with spear and greatsword, also reduces the cooldown by 20%. This means we have a 1200 range mobility skill on 16 second cooldown. And that is a problem.

Elementalist’s ride the lightning has 40 s cooldown if it is misses target. Thus is cannot used that well repeatedly for fleeing (unless you manage to his some rabbit in the forest ). Engineer’s rocket boots has 900 range, 20 s cooldown.

I know rush has pathing issues to hit a target, but as a mobility skill with mere 16 s (trained cooldown), that is way too good to remain as it is and to make matters more imbalanced warrior has 2 mobility skills on greatsword, mobile strikes trait (removes immobilize on movement skill), and fast weapon swapping with fast hands, allowing quick swaps between GS and S.

I have spent couple of hundreds hour more time playing on my warrior than on my thief. My warrior is better equipped than my thief, so I don’t think I am partial here. But I really think the mobility crown should belong to the medium armor professions, not to warrior. Warrior needs mobility to close in to targets, but to be like Usain Bolt.

Rush should have range should be changed to 900 and CD increased to 25 s. Sword #2 and GS #3 should also be looked upon.

Traited warhorn is very powerful in zergs, converting conditions to boons. And warhorn #4, charge, also removes immobilize, cripple and chill and grants switness up to 9 allies. I think that is too much. In solo roaming this is okay, but in zerg setting this is way too much happening for a skill with so low cooldown.

You are talking about roaming or zergs? Because in zergs no one uses GS (except pugs, but pugs are nothing but bags anyway) and traited warhorn is only secondary source of condi cleanse, main cleansing are coming from shout guardians and warriors.
And I will tell this again – if someone manages to die from GS – it’s best for him to go to spvp and learn at least basics.

Btw, I have idea.
Rework HS to use adrenaline system (or add new healing skill).
Signet of Adrenal Health
Passive: 350-500 hps (to be decided, because we actually decreasing heal from Adrenal Health while passive is on, also passive makes pretty hard to land F1 skill with full effect from 3 bars of adrenaline), consuming 1 strike of adrenaline per second.
Active (25s): Consume all adrenaline with same health per adrenaline as passive.

teg.1340:

Agree. Plus there should be some kind of counter play to warriors adrenaline mechanics. Its way to easy to gain adrenaline in the current state of the game. Adrenaline management should be comparable to thieves initiative. Currently its just some kind of “spam burst skills every 8-10s no matter what”…

Because warriors don’t have ANY ways to spend adrenaline except for F1. I remember tons of suggestions about more special skills to spend adrenalin on, but anet ignored them all.

I don’t think so, Anet refused to do such thing minimum twice for WvW rewards (introducing of wxp and wxp rate boosts).

Honestly, rank grind after r40 becoming quite ridiculous, especially if you’re not playing teamQ constantly. I beginning to understand all those Skyhammer farmers.

jportell.2197:

Does everyone that has argued against you need to post links to several of your forum posts that are completely biased and bigoted while only based off playing casual sPvP hot join only 20 solo ques and no team ques?

I remember when the devs used to have SOTG discussions with high end players from both EU and NA. These players provided constructive criticism on proposed changes even if the change buffed their own class.

You do no such thing.
I have played several tPvP games across all classes and right now I can honestly say that a warrior can do the job to fit every role with in tPvP better than those classes which were originally supposed to supposedly fit certain roles.

This game doesn’t have the holy trinity like other games. However it still has roles.
At the most basic level the roles are:
-You have your home point capper
-Mid point bunker
-Roamer
-Far Point assaulter

No class can successfully fill all these roles except one. Warrior.

Mesmer used to be able to fill the role of home point capper… Then the condi meta hit and pushed mesmers out.

Eles used to be able to be the far point assulters… RTL and cantrip nerf stopped that (and yet warriors are still griping that they need their movement to get around)

Thieves were once the gods of roaming as they should be…. Not anymore… A single hambow warrior will keep the thief from doing anything… Yet the thief requires two or three burst combos to kill a warrior wearing the same amulet…

Guardians used to be great home point and mid bunkers. But a warrior can fulfill the role so much better because guess what… a bunker warrior can OUTHEAL a bunker guardian…. With much less effort.

Should every class be able to fill more than one role with in the tournament environment? Yes.

Should one class fill all roles with little to no effort… Not one bit.

How much exactly your “several tPvP games” was? Because this post is pure brilliant.

Thedenofsin.7340:

Elementalists can out-damage warriors only in large AoE situations.
Aside from that, Warriors do more dps than thieves, Mesmers and Guardians, with far less effort.

Looks like you never even tried zerker staff ele. Ele can outdamage EVERYTHING, any class and any spec, and this is on top of crazy bursting potential with frostbow+FGS and ridiculous might+fury stacking.

Beldin.5498:

Really .. if you hate waiting 2 hours for pseudo-raids in an open world for the hardcore raider crowd .. just ignore it .. don’t even try it, else ANet again thinks its a “big successs” and weget even more of that stuff.

If you don’t like that stuff all we can do is to show them the numbers that only a minority of players enjoy that kind of stuff, and the only way to do that is to totally ignore that stuff.

I’m doing it only because of daily for meta. And I’m 150% sure that wurm event will be dead and obsolete in 1-2 months (and marionette, if anet will decide to leave it in game). Same failure design as as Teq 2.0.

Dynnen.6405:

Hmm, don’t get regen on those other two either…and they are both master trait…

Hmm, engi have Self-Regulating Defenses as adept trait with full 100% evade against everything, instead of mere physical damage for warrior grandmaster trait…

Dynnen.6405:

Tell me how many ele or engies you’ve seen with melandru runes, I’ve never heard of it.

If you are choosing to pick offensive runeset instead of defensive one – you have no right to complain about lack of defense.

Oh right, now we changing topics.

Ross Biddle.2367:

…Yeah, I agree it is. Any competent warrior would use his landspeed to go around for the next target. Or lead defenders off, turn, close the gap, burst the doly down, and move on.

I mean come on guys, how many instances are there on these forums of warriors laughing, and players explaining their frustration at warriors ability to take off unhindered from a fight when their health drops low. I guess I have to agree with the other guy, we are playing a different game, and talking about those different games on these forums.

Oh, ofc I never seen it. That was someone else who played wvw on my account every day from first BWE until this day.

Dynnen.6405:

Other classes don’t have Dogged March, lol

O’rly?
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Leg_Mods
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Geomancer's_Freedom

Oozo.7856:

Dogged march with melandru and lemongrass on the warrior. Two sources of stability.

Shh, I gonna tell you one thing, secret thing, almost nobody knows it yet.
It’s hard to believe, but… you can use melandru runes and lemongrass on other classes. I was literally shocked when someone told me about that.

Ross Biddle.2367:

WvW is about more than duels. I’ve encountered solo roaming, high landspeed warriors who’re running the supply lines eliminating doly’s. The counter to this is to send them back to their waypoint. However, due to warrior Landspeed on top of their standard class features, they can easily outdistance any chaser, kill their target quickly, and continue moving to the next one without concern for anyone chasing/attacking them. Towers and keeps require supply to upgrade, and upgrades in order to properly defend, especially against the zerging meta. So your argument “looser fleeing from winner” falls terribly flat. Due to a Landspeed inbalance, warriors are single handedly controlling victory conditions of weekly WvW matchups.

Landspeed is an issue, and needs to be properly balanced.

Looks like you playing some another game. Majority of supply line harassers are either roaming thieves or specialized groups.
Btw, I never seen any solo doly harasser who was able to escape from competent group of doly defenders and slay doly. This is 100% l2p issue.

Redball.7236:

Well, I don’t even know what to say to this.

Who cares, there is at least 3 more spots in the room.

BTW, about animations – asura ban (standard player model checkbox) when?

CI is product of condition bunker meta, so we need alternative.
1. Every class without reliable power based damage-dealing spec should get buffs to power-crit talent trees and weapons.
2. Condition-removal buffs for everyone. You must be able to live against condition bunkers as power-based spec without being roflstomped by 100500 conditions.
3. Switch majority of CC abilities to knockback/fears instead of immobilize/stuns. “Stay here while I’m kicking your kitten ” is cheap concept.
4. More boon removal across all classes (with compensation like more HP for guardian and reverting nerfs for ele).
This will switch meta closer to balanced state.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

dear killahmayne,

as a casual warrior player myself, yes i agree hammer and long bow are best weapons to benefit from cleansing ire.

as for the other weapons, ugh.

i think cleansing ire is fine as it is though.

No he have a very good point. Currently, CI is mandatory in EVERY competitive pvp build. You simply cannot do anything without it against opponents with meta builds (ofc you can find someone terrible, rely on teammate support, or simply be lucky few times, but this is exceptions).
This is clear sign about something very wrong happening with pvp meta.

Dynnen.6405:

Now here is a great example of how NOT to do balancing, just check the warrior section of the update: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-June-25th-2013/first#post2339673

Huge buffs, massive changes, no scaling in ‘balancing’ what-so-ever. This was the patch where warriors went from having to have a brain to be good to the emergence of hammer trains in wvw, hambow, and various other builds.

Oh wow. Right now, go to sPvP forums, find tier-list topic, read posts for pre-25 June patch, and try to understand why ALL serious PvP-ers put warrior in lowest power tier possible. Or you can PM to them all and call them “people without brain”, lol.

CrazyCanuck.4265:

None of those weapons have been nerfed in any noticeable way. Axe auto rotation is by far the highest in the game. Mace is still very strong in small man or solo roaming. Hammer still puts out 8k earthshakers in cavalier gear. Longbow has never been nerfed.

Wtf I’m reading. Axe AA chain was nerfed by moving 50% of damage to last hit (now you need to land third hit to actually do damage with axe), mace is now bunker-only, hammer damage is good only in zerkers or with inflated wvw stats (and even those stats are nerfed with crit damage nerf), LB F1 was nerfed and nerf to LB 5 incoming.
I recommend you to go and read some pathnotes first before making such statements.

Do OP understand that leap skills have travel time and affected by slow effects, thats why they are don’t have targeting? Targeting requirement = teleport skills in GW2.
Also, killing whole class of skills just for sake of few wvw roamers, lol, this is beyond ridiculous.

LelouchViBritannia.3607:

Also, reduce duration of immobilize, chilled and crippled by 33% + melandru runes (25% reduction) + food (40% reduction) = warrior ignoring any and all slowing conditions.

So you assume that warrior traited and geared for condi duration reduction, but ignoring a fact that opponent can trait and gear for increased condi duration. Try again.

Distaste.4801:

Hint: You don’t need to be PvT to be not only mobile but also tanky and high damage. You can easily hit 3.4k attack, 40% crit(60% with fury), 80% crit damage, 3.2k armor, 22k hp, which also comes with healing signet, cleansing ire, Adrenal health, dogged march, and 25% run speed. Maybe 2k per auto-attack is a tickle to you, but for most other classes it adds up quickly. Oh and if you have a bow in your bag you easily do 5k crits so you can compete in ranged zerg battles

Your “high damage” is laughable easy to evade by anyone with half of brain, because sw+wh+gs is godawful for pvp damage. Also – LB is not valuable in zerg battles at all.

LordByron.8369:

I have a great idea…

Why don t simply reduce the range and double the cooldown on miss?
Can be done with initiative cost also…should cost double and give half back on hit ….

I m sure it would work perfectly leaving untouched the gap closing ability…

You mean “just double cooldown”? Because all warrior gap closers are non-teleports with literally non-existent chance to hit against any opponent who able to press movement button.

Ross Biddle.2367:

The distinction has already been made, there’s more than just “best mobility”, there’s also best landspeed. Warriors are the undisputed kings of [strike]GW2[/strike] landspeed. The question needs to be asked, has Landspeed been considered for balance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh8wtucvZJs

This gameplay is outside the pale and warrior exclusive. It needs to be brought back in line with the rest of the game.

Oh, I was waiting when someone finally will copypaste this funny topic from WvW forums.
Hint: mobility PVT build is absolutely harmless, he can only run and tickle someone with GS before run away again. Even trololol CnD permastealth thief build is more dangerous.

Arganthium.5638:

Ele- don’t even start that crap with me. Ether Renewal is an absolutely godawful source of condi removal, if only because of the fact that it is so easily interruptible.

If you are constantly interrupted – this is your personal l2p issue.

Engineer- that “large” part isn’t really that large, and relies on your allies being at least somewhat close to you

What is on-point fighting. Also, lol’d at “heavy armor” argument.

Arganthium.5638:

Guardian- if you can’t wait until Shelter is finished to burst an opponent, you shouldn’t play a burst build.

Everybody will suddenly stop unloading abilities bunker at first sight of shelter. In imaginary world, I presume.

Arganthium.5638:

Necro- necros don’t have that many ways to get rid of condis already

We talking about healing skills, and you are trying to switch topic.

Arganthium.5638:

Ranger- not many other condi clears in the first place outside of Empathic Bond (which is getting nerfed/debugged anyways). Rangers also have very, very few ways to actually utilize the water field by themselves

Ranger have blast and leaps, and ofc you again trying to slip away by “forgetting” about teammates who can utilize this field even more. Also -“heavy armor” argument again, lol.

Arganthium.5638:

Thief- you can easily get gap creators with weapons like Sword and Greatsword. The condition clear only applies to very specific condis, and honestly neither of those are enough to justify not getting 392/360 HPS with no cast time whatsoever.

Aka you again trying to switch from skill discussion to class discussion.

Arganthium.5638:

Warrior- so we’ve finally gotten here… Do you still really believe that Healing Signet is weaker than or on average with other healing skills in the game? It has no cast time (meaning no lost damage potential, no lost defensive potential, and no lost healing potential), is less counterable by poison (you have to maintain constant poison uptime in order to get the full reduction from poison), and, when combined with warrior’s other amazing defensive options, is downright OP. Cleansing Ire and Zerker Stance get rid of most of the problems with conditions that warriors ever have. Meanwhile, warrior still has the highest base health in the game except for necro, which doesn’t have the 14% damage reduction from heavy armor anyways.

And that’s why we see so much warrior bunkers in tPvP instead of guardians. Oh wait, we don’t.
Also, you always forgetting to point at little thing about your “heavy armor” arguments. 14% between heavy and light armor is in 0-0-0-0-0 build without any bonuses and stats, aka glassiest glass. Any defensive stats are decreasing this % rapidly.

Now we need Sacrx Sound Panel v 2.0

No, problem is Archaon-s imaginary world with 30-30-30-30-30 warriors constantly spawncamping him, 6k soloQ matches in row. Evil, evil warriors.