Guild Wars 2

onemantankwall.3641:

onemantankwall.3641:

Can anyone fully make out ALL of the voices? Or did no one notice them? :P
I saw it, a single mind! (couldnt catch what was said after), do not question the dream we must all plan our paths. There was also talking in the very beginning but i cant make it out

I see sonething, i saw it!!! The one mind!!!! Don’t question the dream

I caught every bit of it this time

It could also be referencing that all Pale Trees themselves act as a hive mind and at the center of it is Mord trying ensnare his way back in control, seeing as the Pale Tree(s) fell out of his influence.

One thing is for certain, no Realm of Torment references. The picture Scarlet drew was exactly that, the Eternal Alchemy.

Yeah, another thing bugging me about Season 2 is the reliance on RNG to keep people interested. I’m not too big of a fan of it.

Serophous.9085:

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

Don’t know how this is a shock to anyone. Belinda was written in to be killed.

I was expecting it, what shocked me was that it happened so soon. I was at least thinking a few more episodes, not the second one.

Agreed, I think this could have been done much better. It would have been more impacting to see this in future episodes after we have been able to learn more about her. She was only introduced at the conclusion of Season 1 which didn’t give us much time to get to know her. At this point I’m just going, “Meh.” All she ended up being was just another casualty who had family ties to Marjory, being her sister, but otherwise we hardly knew her beyond that and that she was apart of Seraph.

Dat sword doe!

Fort Trinity seems to be the hub for Pact and it’s eluded to that Mord’s forces were in Concordia because of an artifact they held that pertains to Kryta. It is likely that Jennah would be first especially with Fort Selma in ruins creating a new staging point for the denizens of the Overgrowth.

Well, we know the picture has nothing to do with the Realm of Torment. The Pale Tree isn’t at the center of Tyria seeing as we fly through it. But it’s hard to say until we know more in coming episodes.

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

Malyck’s tree has no Dream and as such this means that the Pale Tree’s dream is tied to Tyria’s spot in the Eternal Alchemy…..

I don’t think that’s necessarily true. We don’t know for certain if he has a dream of his own, we just know he’s not apart of the player’s Dream (that which The Grove supplies).

Ventari’s tablet keeps the Pale Tree and those protected by her safe from the Elder Dragon corrupted Dream of Tyria….

Here is where I’m mixed. I want to believe the tablet is nothing but stone created by Ventari, inscribed with ideas that the Pale Tree grew attached to. However, in this episode we are told of powerful artifacts that are likely being targeted specifically. Being that it’s a world of magic, it’s not hard to imagine Ventari’s tablet is magically imbued and quite possibly adding as a source of protection.

I’m not sure how it fits together myself. Perhaps the Pale Tree(s) are a hive mind and can communicate with each other while Sylvari cannot with other clans through their specific dream. However, I’m curious as to how they clear this up and whether or not Malyck will have a role to play in future episodes.

hardy.7469:

Where do the mists play in that design?

I think the Mists are the design, the framework which everything floats and meanders in. That whole fabric of space and time is the mists.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Ronin.7381:

hell no video game company on the planet, would mock tragic events like this.

. . . I would not be so sure about that.

Well, give me an example of one that would or has.

Activision for example wasn’t advocating for a group of Russian terrorists to go to their nearest airport and murder their own brothers and sisters.

There’s no correlation between what happens in the game and how it reflects on that crash in 2012 due to user error who is also in a lot of crud for making the mistakes he did. It really is grasping at straws trying to make a big deal out of nothing. Arenanet doesn’t strike me as gloating about the real life incident.

I’m still bummed that they aren’t having unique skins as rewards for the achievements. That would make trying to ensure all of Marjory’s abominations survive actually worth the attempts.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Ronin.7381:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

I’m sorry, but can someone explain what the “Costa Concordia” is? Was this a ship from GW1 lore or something?

No it was a ship in real life that hit a reef/rock due to Captain error within the Mediterranean (?). Recently they just rose the ship, which was about 3/4s submerged in the sea, up with pressured air in a raft-like contraption to sail it to a harbor in order to be broken down. The thing is practically rotting. But because of the Captain, a lot of lives were lost.

Honestly the OP is just making a big deal out of nothing.

So basically, you have a real ship that coincidentally has a similar name to something in GW2. That’s grasping at straws.

Pretty much. It’s a desperate attempt to incite responses out of one’s one insecurities. I mean I understand that it was tragic and Arenanet, hell no video game company on the planet, would mock tragic events like this. OP sounds like he just wants something to complain about.

I felt empowered playing my Asura and undertaking this…. “journey.” It’s like my character said to himself in regards to Scarlet, “Listen Doll, let me show you how it’s done.” Felt like a pro, a big deal.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

I’m sorry, but can someone explain what the “Costa Concordia” is? Was this a ship from GW1 lore or something?

No it was a ship in real life that hit a reef/rock due to Captain error within the Mediterranean (?). Recently they just rose the ship, which was about 3/4s submerged in the sea, up with pressured air in a raft-like contraption to sail it to a harbor in order to be broken down. The thing is practically rotting. But because of the Captain, a lot of lives were lost.

Honestly the OP is just making a big deal out of nothing.

DeWolfe.2174:

Someone is going to pay for this!!!!!!

Psssh, I aint even mad. Send the Quaggans back where they came from, pop-corn Quaggan for Bubbles.

EdwinLi.1284:

Vol.7601:

Walhalla.5473:

EdwinLi.1284:

mass effect..

MASS EFFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is official! Elder Dragons are REAPERS!!!

Ah yes “Reapers”

We have dismissed that notion

Funny thing…
2 weeks from now in Episode 3 of Season 2 Living World we may require us to meet each Race leaders and help them deal with their own “Reaper Problems” before they can help us with fighting Sover… I mean Mordremoth.

But Anet wouldn’t go that far…..or would they?

As enjoyable as that would be, I don’t think they could cram all of that into Season 2 by the way it’s going right now. xD

See I don’t think the order or placement has any real significance, not yet anyways.

OP needs a thicker skin.

It’s only Episode 2, of course there’s bound to be more :P

Tanith.5264:

What’s eerie is that I made exactly this prediction to my guild last night.

I don’t like being right about this.

Not to be burst your bubble but this thought had gone around for a while following the conclusion of Season 1. Mainly because originally it was leaked that Marjory was supposed to die in Season 1 and ANet changed that as a response. So the question became whether they would try to kill her again, or focus on someone else and then along came Belinda out of nowhere.

By the by, where’s my two-hander katana?!

See now, while Belinda’s death didn’t impact me, I like how they’re trying to be dark. Vines coming out of the ground, strangling, choking, and hanging people – I mean this was what made Guild Wars 1 lore so fascinating. Sure there was a lot of happy endings there was a lot of grit you had to get around to get those endings. So even walking into the next section of Dry Top, you got that ominous feeling of hopelessness. Something the personal story really lacked in my opinion.

ninja sloth.2658:

I think that what we saw is just a Sylvari’s version of the Eternal Alchemy, they’d naturally see the Pale Tree as the center of the world, with all other magical events playing out around it. Everything is connected together, but Scarlet’s frame of reference was herself (aka the Pale Tree). I think what we saw wasn’t the Eternal Alchemy from our own point of reference, but rather a record of what she saw played back to us (possibly as a result of hijacking the machine mid-playback).

It’d make sense since we’re backtracking through Scarlet’s journey in the LS. We even hear the Pale Tree and Scarlet’s voices in the background.

So everything in the cut-scene is seen through her eyes, essentially. I’d be curious what the Eternal Alchemy looks like to a Charr.

You know, that’s actually an interesting thought and interpretation. Omadd wasn’t an exception of the Asura. He too was interested in the Sylvari as a test species more than a sentient species deserving right to exist. The original campaign didn’t do a very good job at telling the tale but when the Asura first saw the Sylvari, they were so curious that they wanted to dissect them so to speak – thinking they were nothing more than wild life. The Asura way.

So the idea that the machine was designed specifically with Sylvari biology in mind, is an interesting theory.

Sylaves.8132:

fragiled it by killing Zhaitan? OR he’s not dead after all…. .

See this is where I think he (Zhaitan) is “not dead” but we’re not going to see him again. Unless if it’s Guild Wars 3-4-5 or 6. It seems like there is a balance. So far it seems like the devs will not be exploring future fights with Zhaitan, not at this given time but I am inclined to believe that the EDs act as necessary forces of destruction to basically reach a new epoch every cycle.

We know that dragons do not devour magic, they collect it through consumption and then while hibernating during their sleep it is expelled. It sounds like they’re a restart button, they all act in tandem but they don’t necessarily have an allegiance to one another – it’s more of lions, tigers, and bears sort of deal. Each one has a territory, each territory in some way follows the next in reshaping the lands.

I’m just curious about the significance in Mord reaching the center. I wonder why. When I start wondering I get crazy ideas of either the Pale Trees having a hive mind where at the center is some other unknown dragon being that of the Eternal Alchemy. Or that Mord really is the most dangerous of them all… being that he’s like Gaia which makes me hope that the fight isn’t too anticlimactic during the finale. It’s really hard to say, I’m stumped.

Personally, I just can’t wait to see the Sylvari take a back seat once Mord is out of the way.

imbalancedhero.3968:

If this order is followed it means that the bright green orb that goes into the center represents zhaitan and his death. Any more thought on this? thanks

I don’t think so. I think that’s Mordremoth and the one that represents Zhaitan is peeling back. The Dark Green goes into the center and then I guess assimilates nature and… “assumes control.” It practically looks at you and then we get the whole fade-to-black cliche where something happened so traumatic we can’t make out the details – hence we’re going to the closest thing we can guess that is connected (the Pale Tree) in order to seek an audience.

See this is why I don’t think Zhaitan is “canonologically” dead even though we likely will not fight him again. It’s almost like these are fundamental forces of chaos and order that is maintained and through the eternal alchemy we find out. But that’s neither here nor there, I don’t think there’s any specific significance other than Zhaitan represented a facet of chaos that all of the EDs share.

Now my interpretation is my own so I can’t wait to see what Episode 3 will reveal, assuming it doesn’t grow more questions :P. From what I can only infer right now is that there is a specific connection to the Pale Tree(s) and Mord and he is in some way the heart of Tyria.

Hm… it really is mind boggling. I need to rewatch some videos :P

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

So we’re the ones diving into the Pale Tree’s mind in this episode?….. Fascinating……

We follow Scarlet’s footsteps and don’t attempt to avoid the Pale Tree which would have given us actual data on the Eternal Alchemy…..

It didn’t drive us insane like it did Scarlet….. Probably because we’re not dumb enough to get a closer look at the Mordremoth corrupted Pale Tree in her mind…..

I don’t think we were falling into the Pale Tree but more so growing a fundamental understanding of the workings of the world that is Tyria. What has me curious is it seems almost like they’re playing Mord to be… like Gaia from Greek/Roman mythology in that it’s the heart of the world itself and of course the Pale Tree, being nature bound, is involved to some extent.

While I hope the Sylvari aren’t the culmination of Tyria’s defense against the Dragons, I am kind of rooting for the Sylvari being the result of Mord’s creation, the Pale Tree(s). But what has me curious is what significance the others have in the grand scheme of all things… I mean obviously they are pretty much climate change on steroids but in relation to each other, each dragon, I wonder how they fit together. We were told the Dragons don’t necessarily have allegiences with one another but I felt like the cutscene was portraying Mord to be, I guess the daddy?

Really interesting none the less. Looking forward to Episode 3 for more closure. I did get a lol though, this is totally a omage to Mass Effect.

EDIT: Just to add, it was nice seeing a fully animated real-time cutscene which is reminiscent of Guild Wars 1 in how it told its stories. The primary grueling factor of GW2 that really bummed me out was how they changed the way they tell their stories during cutscenes. But this conclusion was on par and it’s been what I had been asking for since Season 1 started, more visceral and entertaining cutscenes.

Vol.7601:

How far shall we take this?

Since when did your character learn how to wield a [insert weapon]

Maybe she was born with it….

This is the fallout of the multiple Living World Dev Teams which they ended up combining into one team entirely. Because otherwise content was all over the place, disjointed, and convoluted. In trying to maintain a cohesive narrative, they made one team dedicated entirely to the Living World. It’s unfortunate but maybe it’ll be touched upon in the future.

Shinzan.2908:

People speculated his name for ages, even before living story, one of the bosses in the asura dungeon had a skill named after him.

Yeah but our character wouldn’t know that. To be fair the name Mordremoth had the name dropped in Episode 1, I just can’t figure out how this became common knowledge. There wasn’t any dialog having to do with looking through old Dwarven archives or some such.

It is a little lazy but eh, no big deal.

Eulolia.2467:

The first bit was horrible, the dragon suddenly referred to as “Mordremoth” despite no characters expressing any knowledge of this previously. It was like a bit of cutscene where they discovered this was missing. Rest was good!

Actually Mordremoth got a name drop in Episode 1, however I’m still not sure how that name came about.

This map is much bigger than Dry Top standard. I like!

Ha, you can get to where you saw the Mysterious Strangers last episode.

Speaking of Traehearn….

I’m thinking that these Waypoints are going to take a while, across multiple episodes. So we may not see another today (7/15/2014). But I’m not sure, I think the event taking place with waypoints are acting on a separate timer than the Episodes so throughout the Season it’ll progress and then transition to the next “source”.

Wanderer.3248:

skullmount.1758:

Also, didn’t see this the first time I looked at this page. I bet its just what Zam called it, but it could be the name of that plant creature – Mordrem Lord (so new world boss maybe?)

I think we should call it Audrey.

Seymour PLEASE!

I figure what’s her face aboard one of the airships will play a role in assisting us as a mobile platform. That’d be kind of neat, traveling across the world with a travel time.

EdwinLi.1284:

Almost forgot are there any images of the new weapon’s skin

I want to make certain the new weapons are not different by name only since the new exotic Nomad armor set are just a new type of stat sets that still has the same look as any other exotic armor set.

There’s only the one screenshot of the woman charging a, what looks like to be, sandworm. It’s a greatsword and doesn’t look like any gear we have. My advice would be to watch Dulfy throughout the night tonight and into tomorrow for a comprehensive skin analysis and/or crafting instructions.

Lyanna.9875:

I think the vines are “drinking” the magic within.

There’s florescent light flowing down from the waypoints and along the vine. Pretty neat.

Wanderer.3248:

7th shot, with the toothy flower thingy looks like the Kessex Hills.

That’s what I’m thinking as well. I don’t quite recognize the layout. I assume it’s near the Seraph Camp just East of Fort Selma because those wood spikes look like what lines its walls. I blame the camera shot but very interesting.

I wonder if this means Kissex Hills would/will grow back just… differently than what it was like originally. Now, I always wanted Kissex Hills to originally return to a lush green area like it was at launch and didn’t like how the Nightmare Tower destroyed a lot of it. So if this is a sign of overgrowth taking place here, I think that would be awesome. It wouldn’t be the exact same Kissex because we have debris all over the place but vicious looking palms wrapped in vines and the barren wastland turned into a ripe-green thicket of thorns twenty if not more feet high would be awesome.

Celestina.2894:

So the ambrite weapons won’t be a gem shop thing?

Thank god.

I’m a little surprised, I thought all we were going to get were Ascended jewelry. :P Can’t wait to see what it all looks like though.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

My husband also foresaw the waypoints being disrupted / broken due to the vines. And here I thought he was nuts. Hmmmm…

Yeah, when a screen shot was taken from the trailer it shows Concordia and on closer inspection you can see something glowing with a blue hue in the mid right corner (which is where the Waypoint should be). So as soon as someone posted the What is that Vine doing to that WP. well… we kind of assumed the two were connected too much to be coincidental.

Seras.5702:

I seriously hope it doesn’t mean mounts. I agree with everything Meadfreek said. Not to mention that it trivializes travel within a zone. As it is, many people use WPs to move about but for those that do roam, it’s nice to run across other players who’ll join in on events. Mounted players will just run on by.

Not necessarily and we wouldn’t know until we actually had them. Right now people run by events sometimes or they choose to join in, it’s completely player choice and mounts… I’m not seeing that being any specific influence on their decision making. People who want to explore wont be denied the luxury. That there is my point though, if mounts were introduced nobody would be forcing you to mount up – you do so at your own pace. In those regards, I’d be completely ok with that.

Yeah, I can see that. Being that he was awoken supposedly ahead of schedule, something like an energy boost to wake up to just before going to work.

Distaste.4801:

WvW isn’t even debatable.

Edge of The Mists was created to address the long queue times for that exact reason. By creating a smaller version that supported plenty of overflows, people who wanted to PVP openly could do so without having to wait.

Lasica.5068:

Unless Xfire is a completely bullkitten source that no one in their right mind should be using as proof in an argument.

I don’t even use it.

Michael Walker.8150:

is there a symbol etched in the wp remains? (both sides) or am I seeing this wrong?

Nope, not entirely wrong – I just edited mine to add to it.

It looks like a symbol of some kind. My guess being a symbol of the Eternal Alchemy, or THE symbol itself. Doesn’t look exactly like Scarlet’s painting but similar.

Ronin.7381:

Cyan.6904:

The waypoint at Mirkrise has been smashed to pieces. It’s a sad day for all waypoints in the world.

Sure enough, smashed and being looked at.

It just doesn’t seem like it’s sapping power, it looks savaged. If it was only draining power, you’d think it would fall into two-three pieces (the body and the squares) harmlessly to the ground once it was of no longer any use. Vine is gone too. This was split in half sparking and the spot where the waypoint was, the aura is glowing gold periodically and then dissipating.

EDIT: Also, there seems to be a symbol on the innards of the Way Point resembling the Eternal Alchemy. Not exact identical of Scarlet’s drawing but close….

Cyan.6904:

The waypoint at Mirkrise has been smashed to pieces. It’s a sad day for all waypoints in the world.

Sure enough, smashed and being looked at.

Ok so the WP in Timberline Falls is now ceased as well as the Waypoint at the entrance of Dry Top.

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

I keep asking for that too. Never see anything.

A large part of it is people using personal experiences and projecting them onto the rest of the player population.

Yeah, it’s a known issue for the most part Doc.

Wanderer.3248:

It looks more like the building we see in the new trailer.

It’s definitely Asuran technology. Possibly Scarlet’s design.

The title of the blueprint said it had tentacles coming out of it. And now we have tentacles attacking waypoints. And Scarlet was called Scarlet Briar.

I’m not saying it’s all connected with Ley Lines. But it must be Ley Lines!

Just for you
http://i.imgur.com/RJeRGMS.jpg

Rabe.2456:

I just noticed, the Seraph are actively using the Mirkrise Waypoint to get reinforcements closer to the Tangle Root. When the Jungle Entaglement meta-event starts, a lot of soldiers teleport in there. It could be possible that the goal of the vines is to really destroy the waypoint-system to really hurt the enemie’s infrastructure.

The screenshot of Concordia does show pieces of the waypoint laying on the ground after being blown up.