Guild Wars 2

Give us a condition that negates boons effect for it’s duration instead of this bad idea.

Advent.6193:

Honestly, with #Anet Logic? All our thread are belong to Dev, and they’ll give Thief a freakin Scepter. Frankly, whatever it is, I just want it to not suck golfballs through gardenhoses.

Although, yes – a part assault rifle/scythe crossbreed is just pretty darned cool.

Any 1H weapon is too hard leaving us with rifle,staff,hammer,LB and GS.

Soulhaze.7864:

My guess is the shield. The skills will be AoE heavy and the traits pirate themed…

Might as well give us shouts and seal their doomed fate.

It’s not technically a siphon and it’s probably because of PvE unfortunately but it should anyway.

If this applies to revenant’s copied conditions they might “fix” it.

Archaon.9524:

yeah please, so wvw’ers not able to rotate are gonna stay out of eveyrthing else

The game doesn’t revolve around your circle.

But Death Magic is an intended selfish line…

No to blind stacking, SR needs to give initiative when entering stealth,SE needs to go back to remove all conditions,CiS needs to be merged with Shadow Protector and fall trait needs to be by itself on master tier,CnD needs blindness instead of vulnerability 180 radius.

PU needs to go back to it’s old self same for torch trait bad move Robert or whoever did it.

MrForz.1953:

Honestly, if you don’t want to play a Thief, why remain on this class?

Wut? Don’t you know how elite specs are supposed to work?

Could we stop with the “nerfs” to SB? SB naturally has and should have 900 range on all skills because LB is a thing. If you want control try s/p the only unique thing about staff would bring is a land block and please p/p is a wannabe hybrid weapon.

nearlight.3064:

@manveruppd, what do you think necros will run when ele gets nerfed? Also I heard from a popular streamer that the ele balance dev is on vacation right now so thats why it hasn’t been nerfed yet… but I guess it will be soon since vacations can’t last forever.

There is always boon to corrupt,conditions to transfer,traditional specs etc hopefully LB rangers don’t become meta no hate to rangers though.

Another one…

Team Rifle.

sebradle.7034:

Anet please release thief spec this Monday so this melodrama can end.

Wrong…it would just fuel the next one it’s a cycle of darkness.

In all seriousness it would be nice if we could focus more on base thief but even when the teaser pic is revealed I’m pretty sure they will not make it specific just to create last minute extra hype and we know ranger is last so that’s one good thing so far. Anyway Team Rifle!!

uglydan.1638:

More likely they haven’t even started on thief elite spec.

If they take a break after Herald’s POI I’ll believe you.

Corruptions evolved.

I have to…

Burning is the only decent condition(sometimes confusion).

Maugetarr.6823:

Sagat.3285:

Maugetarr.6823:

Sagat.3285:

Maugetarr.6823:

How about OH sword so we can tell Tempests that we stole their weapon?

Isn’t that rumored impossible since we have MH dagger?

I see nothing wrong with switching back and forth between D/S and S/D.

Similar Skin

It seems odd the primary reason for OH sword is because we already have MH sword but isn’t rev’s s/s what thieves want? It seems less likely then either staff or rifle to be honest but that’s just my opinion.

Well, warrior and mes also have OH sword. It seems odd that we can’t be ambidextrous as well. We’re the only class that combos our weapons (dual attacks) and can dual wield all of our other weapons (barring SB) so dual wielding our other weapon just makes sense that it would take a little more training. We’re probably getting a 2h weapon though cause it will be easier to balance.

War is literally a master of weapons and have duel wielding as a theme which is different from ours,mesmer doesn’t have MH pistol,guard doesn’t have OH sword or mace either if anything ranger has more chance to get OH sword than us. Rifle and staff are both 2 handed weapons and we only have 1 2H that everybody uses would be nice to see a possible change.

Maugetarr.6823:

Sagat.3285:

Maugetarr.6823:

How about OH sword so we can tell Tempests that we stole their weapon?

Isn’t that rumored impossible since we have MH dagger?

I see nothing wrong with switching back and forth between D/S and S/D.

Similar Skin

It seems odd the primary reason for OH sword is because we already have MH sword but isn’t rev’s s/s what thieves want? It seems less likely then either staff or rifle to be honest but that’s just my opinion.

Another one to use as fuel…

Maugetarr.6823:

How about OH sword so we can tell Tempests that we stole their weapon?

Isn’t that rumored impossible since we have MH dagger?

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Sagat.3285:

Lily.1935:

Sagat.3285:

Very first is bringing 50% of Lingering Curse duration baseline,#3 needs to drop to 10 sec and give more LF,not sure if there is a rule saying only 1 skill per weapon can give LF but LF on Putrid Curse would help a lot,just make #2 a short duration dark field it’s extremely unreliable,Lingering Curse could give an AoE condition damage buff I doubt it doesn’t compete with Weakening Shroud. If we have to stick to scepter only that’s all.

It seems to only be a rule on one handed weapons. The issue with the Scepter’s life force is not that it has bad Life force generation, its that its usually offhand pair, dagger doesn’t have any life force generation. Which by all rights it should.

GS only has 1 LF gain skill or I missed something because it’s so bad staff only has it on all because of a trait another reason why it’s our best hated third wheel. Yes LF gain on dagger would be good probably per condition transferred on #4 and btw conditions specs cough cough bleed have issues but that’s another topic.

GS3 and 5 both generate life force.

I stand corrected then.

FrownyClown.8402:

style.6173:

Comparing D/D ele to anything at this point is funny. It is so incredibly OP compared to everything else in PvP at the moment.

From my experience in ranked, it really comes down to having a good team to fully utilize a d/d ele.

I can’t tell you how many times I have been placed with double thief or double mesmer and they just zerg mid and don’t help me on side points.

I played vs 4 man ele team today and my team actually had the lead. We lost because of lord push though.

Ele is strong on points for sure, but focusing them down with 2 competent players can be pretty easy.

I had a 4v5 match today and the ele was carrying them and we lost sure he’s an Abjured sub but that happened on my team once and he(thief) didn’t carry us…I was solo but that’s not possible even for mesmer not sure about chrono.

Lily.1935:

Sagat.3285:

Very first is bringing 50% of Lingering Curse duration baseline,#3 needs to drop to 10 sec and give more LF,not sure if there is a rule saying only 1 skill per weapon can give LF but LF on Putrid Curse would help a lot,just make #2 a short duration dark field it’s extremely unreliable,Lingering Curse could give an AoE condition damage buff I doubt it doesn’t compete with Weakening Shroud. If we have to stick to scepter only that’s all.

It seems to only be a rule on one handed weapons. The issue with the Scepter’s life force is not that it has bad Life force generation, its that its usually offhand pair, dagger doesn’t have any life force generation. Which by all rights it should.

GS only has 1 LF gain skill or I missed something because it’s so bad staff only has it on all because of a trait another reason why it’s our best hated third wheel. Yes LF gain on dagger would be good probably per condition transferred on #4 and btw conditions specs cough cough bleed have issues but that’s another topic.

Sagat.3285:

1)They don’t see the class like we do
2)The “necro theme” is preferred by them over balance
3)They are always to keep necro “in line” before action/live (hello rest of the game)
4)They overestimate DS that starts at zero LF before every match
5)Like someone mentioned necro is very different from the rest of the classes
6)They use perfect scenarios for balance

Those are the rules I used when seeing them balance necro you can adjust a few for thief especially #6. It’s a team process at least that’s what they say and it has to get accepted by superiors and it might not be high on priority. There also trolls and doom bringers(I’m partially guilty of that) that can disrupt a perfect discussion which is impossible anyway.

I believed they had a CDI about ranger and look at them lol and it seems the pet was better at release. It’s not a downhill race but you have to expect nothing and avoid disappointment even if you did some things get through. Kitten I hate what they did with SA and Acro.

Very first is bringing 50% of Lingering Curse duration baseline,#3 needs to drop to 10 sec and give more LF,not sure if there is a rule saying only 1 skill per weapon can give LF but LF on Putrid Curse would help a lot,just make #2 a short duration dark field it’s extremely unreliable,Lingering Curse could give an AoE condition damage buff I doubt it doesn’t compete with Weakening Shroud. If we have to stick to scepter only that’s all.

Gray.9041:

Sagat.3285:

Revenant is getting so much attention because it’s new give it 3 years and try to say that again look at ranger lol. It’s still not 6 months post patch so I’ll wait like we usually do.

I realise that revenant’s not in the same place, but the whole communication they’ve got going, that’s what I’d like to see more of, and I was just hoping we might get it round here.

too much to hope for?

At beta and fresh release it was probably like that and right now they are additionally working on HoT that reminds me revenant is also part of HoT so yeah it’s too much let’s hope the patches are satisfying. They don’t have to drop by and talk it seems they read forums it’s just matters how long it takes them to understand it.

Revenant is getting so much attention because it’s new give it 3 years and try to say that again look at ranger lol. It’s still not 6 months post patch so I’ll wait like we usually do.

@Highlie Ranger will probably be last because they announced it first and Roy is loving revenant I’m pretty sure they gave up on ranger anyway.

All ranged rifles are 1200 just like ranged staves the reason SB is on 900 range is because it’s a SB it shouldn’t have the same range as LB that goes as high as 1200 and more. Yes staff has more recent attention partially because no one knew they would make melee staves and yes I don’t trust them with balance most of the time especially with thief now but there is no sub for them.

Anyway I would appreciate if Team Rifle is no longer discriminated by believing we all want a sniper and are CoD guniacs if anything melee rifle was rumored before melee staff. What’s better than a gun? A gun with a blade!! If anything you can mix GS,rifle and staff into it but yes it’s all tricky wishing.

I would prefer #3 to stay a boon hate skill make it corrupt 2 boons instead of 1,transfer the cripple to #2 per hit,increase #1 damage,fix it’s animation and of course increase their range to 900. Putting axe and scepter #3 at 10 sec would be highly appreciated don’t forget reduce cast times on Spinal Shivers.

TheLastNobody.8319:

Sagat.3285:

Make boon hate more common and compatible and you won’t have to nerf anything (on ele) you’ll avoid burying the other weapons deeper as well.

They do that though there goes the necro’s one job in PvP! ;_; I do agree though more boon hate would be nice considering the amount of condition hate there is.

It’s not there yet especially in AoE format axe/focus could but they suck badly. There is also stealing,removing those need to be more common hell I’m surprised tempest got boon removal when guard got theirs removed and ranger has none war should get one when he received less damage the more boon the foes have. That’s what needs to happen not sure who thought it was a good idea to have AoE boon and cleansing on Rampage mode pre-nerf.

Make boon hate more common and compatible and you won’t have to nerf anything (on ele) you’ll avoid burying the other weapons deeper as well.

No direct reasons the indirect ones were stomping potential,anti-melee potential and d/p could endure it. There is a lot more that you may have missed.

rojak.1894:

It’ll be melee rifle with remote controlled Marks.

Btw didnt Rubi teased about a Banana Scythe?

Other players responded that she always does that.

Gray.9041:

Tabootrinket.2631:

plot-twist.
We get rifle but then…

Melee rifle. the perfect compromise.

Team Rifle can accept that.

Dark Saviour.9410:

As I’ve said before, I don’t want characterization from the Dragons.
I want unknowable Lovecraftian horrors that the Tyrians can’t even contemplate fighting in a traditional sense.
I loved the idea of them being these unbound forces that the world is pretty much at the mercy of…
Then Zhaitan happened. And we got ‘intelligent’ champions and a zombie army (complete with zombie anti-aircraft guns) instead of an unstoppable horde incapable of being contained by normal tactics that serves merely to spread the infection further.
And now we’ve got Mordremoth speaking a normal language like a generic villain…

So much wasted potential.

Lovecraft?! Wrong game but you have to be familiar with the Soul series right? Dark Souls 3 has been announced.

I’m pretty sure they are trying to make d/d the condition melee weapon despite it’s hybrid nature they will try for a long time though and p/p is hybrid-ish also not sure how a melee staff would inflict bleeding. Sure our speculations are not solid but Team Rifle’s bullets are.

Revenant is a special case it’s new and highly questionable Robert did also say he’s not as talkative as Roy and he doesn’t need to as long as proper results are received. I would seriously appreciate if they stopped balancing around perfect scenarios though.

If anything I would like to know what the hell is going on with thief yes that was slight favoritism.

Azure.8670:

I still think minion mancer is superior to signet but what do I know

You are not the only one, only AI issues are holding MM back but cele signet is kind of overrated there is an even thread in PvP section saying it better than cele ele.

Vooriden.3927:

why people say that rifle is sin gle target ?
are dev obliged to make rifle skills only single target ? can’t they make rifle with aoe damage ?

i would love to see that on the thief’s elite spe
the kits as described above would be really nice as well
Anet shouldn’t keep us waiting ! =D

SB is already AoE let’s not give our staff rivals reasons not to get rifle.

Tim.6450:

I found it better then CttB.

Shhhh!!

Kocoff.7582:

Can you stop it please? Seriously. There wasn’t even a druid reveal yet, and you already don’t like it.
RIFLE WON’T BE HAPPENING. Thieves don’t cope with long range combat, deal with it.

We were given plenty of teleportation to close gaps. I mean Steal is 1,200 range for f’s sake, and you could get that every 20 seconds if traited.

This range weapon argument doens’t hold anymore. stahp.
You want a stealth sniper with teleportation enabled? You don’t think that’s generic? I have played a few MMOs with characters with those abilities

1200 range doesn’t guarantee a nice synergy/usefulness as a thief and Staff weapon skin has been out for months now.

Now when it comes to kits? Idk. Neither excited nor annoyed by it.

What about dragonhunter and traps? Necro is naturally ranged but got melee shroud and GS. Staff would just be a land spear.

krzysiek.9061:

Same here, I thought that the Revenant specialization will be the last one.

Don’t you think that specializations for Revenant will be boring? Necro has new shroud, guardian has traps and new virtues, mes is having fun with time, engi has drones and hammer. Is Glint specialization going to be 5th legend?

They could introduce a branding system in which you gain a single target F3 like hex that depends on legends the first 4 sec of swapping legends you gain a lesser but mixed or a special of the two Jallis could get “for the next 2 sec your foes attacks are blocked” but anyway yes rev should have been last.

Please don’t start bringing doom again we are seeing some lights and stick to their ways for necro:

1)They don’t see the class like we do
2)The "necro theme" is preferred by them over balance
3)They are always to keep necro "in line" before action/live (hello rest of the game)
4)They overestimate DS that starts at zero LF before every match
5)Like someone mentioned necro is very different from the rest of the classes
6)They use perfect scenarios for balance

They pulled a #6 on reaper and areas of base necro like Dhummfire but we’ve already a recent enough mention that feedback taken sure it’s not the for time this exact situation happens and yes those ways keep messing things up but progress is made and will continue to be made. It’s not like they don’t want us to play they are just stubborn and overconfident sometimes so please save the doom.

@Tommyknocker Please no if anything mesmer should be like other classes.

CandyHearts.6025:

skowcia.8257:

I also excepted revenant to be last one.

I actually thought they’d do it very soon after they finished it’s main legends. You can tell Roy has sooo much excites for the new class. I bet he could barely contain himself! xD

My guess is actually Druid being last. And Engi being next if not Thief.

I don’t know whyyyy. .-.

It would be dirty to have Druid last especially since I expect disappointments from ranger anyway actually more than usual :/ coming from necro that’s something.

Hopefully they are being worked on for a TDM queue that won’t come from an expansion.

Dirame.8521:

Rym.1469:

Chinese Necromancer icon.

The problem with that is, the necromancer’s normal logo is also in the same picutre.

I call laziness.

Condi and bunker are two bad PvP combinations on thief.

Our guns are ready -Team Rifle-

Reece.7341:

With all the revenant coverage, I was really hoping to have one of the other classes elite be shown…

I’m also a little disappointed with multiple professions receiving Shouts and Shields. With rumors of thief and ranger receiving staves…

Anyone else feel this way, or just me?

With shouts they gave a hint that more than 1 would get it others not but either way us Team Rifle will not support this.

Sylent.3165:

Hm was expecting seeing warrior or thief by now. But still nice

This I seriously thought Glint would be last and I was finally going to see thief so sad.