I’m pretty sure the Warriors from all game modes (more so PvP and WvW than PvE I would say) that are okay with the recent change to Adrenaline are few and far between if any.
You could try and get supporty with an Axe/Wh + Longbow perhaps. I have no idea how well these would work though.
Active and passive condition management.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQNBHhNakpjuQLDx2DORDUFUIX8AQ9QMDxeyM4FA-TVSDwAs0Hk4JAUV53L1fqcCAWoEEgJIJHCAa7PQGAmtA-w
Purely active condition management, and a bit more offensive. You’re a lot more flexible with food here so you could go for mango pies or might stacking for example if you like.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQNBHhNakpjuQLDx2DORDUFUIrgAQ9QMDxeyM4FA-TFSDwAs2f0Hk4JAUV53L1fqcCAWoEEgJIJHCASBExWA-w
These may be total garbage, but if you had to come up with a more support oriented Axe build these seems like they could be an option.
Not that I’m aware of. I’m pretty sure Axe is the highest raw dps weapon we have, but I could be wrong.
Mace (weakness, block, daze, stun) or Sword (cripple, immobilize, leap) would be your more supporty options for a MH weapon.
Try switching your weapons to S/T + A/D. That way you have evades on both sets instead of an offensive and defensive set.
Question about birds. Their auto attack is a 2 strike attack I think. Does the bonus from attack of opportunity count towards both strikes or just the first?
Interesting. I’ll have to mess around with it, and I prefer sube dai’s setup. I’ve always shyed away from Healing Spring because of the long CD and it not being mobile, but the capabilities are huge with Swoop and a Drake. I had experimented with spotter a while back. I’m assuming when Keen Edge goes off it procs SotF? Time to creep out of the comfort zone perhaps and try using SotF (and more Survival skills). On the plus side I do have a full set if ascended cav trinkets burning a hole in my bags from an old build on a diff character. Sube’s setup does also look like it’d be better for group play with the water field and spotter. Any preferred pets for something like this? I ran Spider/Wolf when experimenting with MoC, but now its been River Drake/Wolf.
Hmm… Fox’s build link from that vid is a MoC build with EB (and SoR) and therefore no SotF. I had thought about going MoC (with EB not SotF), but I’d miss Evasive Purity too much. If I get to a point where I need more on demand condition removal I can always switch over to SotF, but right now I prefer the stability options.
While I agree that Raptor would be a great new pet, we already have Moas which I’m pretty sure would be too similar to warrant a new pet type.
I hate to bump an old thread, but there’s not a whole lot of talk about builds like this around. I came to be playing a very similar build due to not having much fun with either bow and wanting a power build.
I’m not running with priority on Might stacking because I’m too cheap for Hoelbrak/Strength.
Here’s what I’m currently using. Built primarily for soloing camps and skirmishing with the odd duel along the road.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAR3XjEqUwaFLusw1aALhq9BEAFAvm1bJ8AX8TVQA-TFSDwATuIARV+l4JA8S9nd7PsQJIIdDAMBRIgyLAA-w
I’m probably going to gear for more toughness and crit though to something like this.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAR3XjEqUwaFLusw1aALhq9BEAFAvm1bJ8AX8TVQA-TlSDwATuIAzUrQqSjoKzS8EAepqyu9HApbYhSQAmgIEQ5FA-w
Any chance you’d consider putting your build up on metabattle?
Logitech G400s. As long as you have a keybind setup that works for you you don’t need an insane amount of thumb buttons.
I might consider making a few trait changes and trying a diff food if you want to get the most out of might stacking.Perhaps dropping Sharpshooter for Backpack Regen since you’re crit is already really low, and taking Blood Injection instead of Fast-Acting Elixirs since you’re only running a single Elixir. Also there’s Might on heal food you might wanna look into.
Yes. Sigils work while you have a kit equipped.
There are going to be different builds for those types of play.
Just some examples.
Well what type of play will you be doing with your Ranger? Solo Roaming, Havoc (small group roaming), Zerg busting, GvG, or ZvZ?
Roaming Sniper is exactly what the name implies. Solo Roaming in WvW, and Id play this or something very similar is I had any inclination to play a Longbow as a solo roamer.
The other build looks more like a larger scale combat oriented build (the telltale Sigil of Restoration). There are a few things that don’t sit right however.
A very high crit chance with no on crit effects.
- Cond Duration food with no complimentary runes.
It just feels wrong on the surface. Not even taking into account that it’s a Ranger build or that it’s a LB large scale combat spec.
It’s a well documented issue that spans just about all movement abilities as far as I know. Has to do with your movement essentially getting blocked by a blade of grass or a slight change in elevation. If you dont want to deal with it play a profession with teleports instead of leaps because it doesn’t seem like its getting fixed any time soon.
Just stop trying to use conditions in a zerg and it won’t feel like you’re banging your head against a wall anymore. Other areas of wvw sure, but not a zerg.
I’m guessing the wrong bow was selected in the builder.
SB can be used in a skirmisher type build as a power weapon though. Doubling up on air and fire sigils with omnom pies/ghosts. It can go either way.
The thing holding axe main hand back is the fact its auto attack does pathetic damage. The auto attack needs to be buffed.
I’ve written this suggestion several times for mainhand axe #1:
Instead of dividing the damage to 33.33% for each bounce, the first hit should hit harder, and the (possible) following two for lower damage. For example 50%->25%->25%, 60%->20%->20% or maybe even 70%->20%->10%.
Something like this would be huge for Axe. I would also suggest putting a different non-damaging condition on Axe #2. Since the only trait that buffs Axe adds ferocity it should not be applying any damaging conditions.
I’m actually okay with whirling defense being a stationary ability.
this is personal preference but would GS be better for a bruiser build than sword warhorn?
Probably
Getting farther from Bruiser and closer to LB power ranger.
I’ve run flow’s hybrid build before if you’re really looking for a hybrid. I don’t usually chase the blob, but I’ve had good success with that build in just about all other aspects of WvW.
For starters it’s Bruiser, not Brusier. And it’s not all that new of a concept.
Secondly if it’s for PvP why are you not using the PvP builder?
A Moment of Clarity build for WvW/PvE (since you used that builder) might be something like what you were going for. If you need more Condi removal just swap one of the Signets for SoR.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJAVRjEq0waFLGsw1agFhqdHcBbA7xdACAX7wBrawA-TVCFABspDQJlfYpEEgHAQhq/IwVAgm9HSTTwCHCASBUuyI-w
If you gave a better idea as to the focus of the build we could help you out a lot more. What game mode (PvP, WvW or PvE) will you be playing and what role? I know you said PvP, yet you used the PvE builder. Also, simply saying “Bruiser” and defining it as tanky DPS doesn’t say what you want out of the build. It describes the build, but describing the one you originally posted as tanky DPS is incorrect as has been pointed out. The traits are kind of all over the place.
Since you used the PvE builder, but said the build was for PvP I’m going to assume you meant WvW. In WvW you have your solo roamers, your small group (havoc) roamers, mid size skirmishes of 10-15 (includes GvG), or do you just wanna run with the blob and tag as much as possible? In the last case would you rather be running with the driver, mid-line, or back-line?
As for Might stacking during RaO goes I’d make sure you’ve got SB equipped and use a pet with a fast (1/4 sec) attack speed such as dogs, moas (extra Daze could be nice), drakes, or pigs. Devourers have a slow (1 sec) attack speed, but whether or not both barbs would count towards Might stacks I don’t know. I just built it with standard Drakehound/Wolf. Not sure how much emphasis you want to put on Might stacking during RaO if you don’t have might stacking elsewhere in the build.
Regarding LB vs SB they both have their place, but in a Bruiser type build where you’re presumably going to be in melee range (if not very close to it) SB may have an edge.
Hope this helps.
In a Power Wells Frontliner build it shouldn’t be much of a question as to whether or not you should swap some PVT for Dire.
Conditions (and Terrormancer) work just fine for havoc and solo roaming.
I second flow’s wvw builds.
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure Healing doesn’t affect Parasitic Contagion. Considering siphoning on Necro is pretty lackluster as it is, I would ditch the idea of making use of siphons at all and instead focus on getting up as many Bleed stacks as possible as fast as possible with Condition Duration. And remember you don’t receiving any healing while in Deathshroud, so don’t linger unless you have to. Get in fire off what you need to and get out.
Perhaps something like this.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNAW7Yjc00db5N+0wfbCchSqfA63MAu3ozgJYEA-TFSAABYoEUI1foR3AAPBgHM/1z+DRp8r7LCApAgYZF-w
There’s a guy on my server that runs P/D & D/D in WvW. Seems to work well.
At level 33 though you’re not going to be able to flesh out a build. PvE really isn’t an issue. For EOTM I hate to say it but just grab a shortbow and ride the train trying tag as many as possible while not getting yourself killed. In WvW at that level see comment on EOTM for zerging, otherwise just run supply and try not to get yourself killed.
What Necro build/playstyle should have the axe as it’s primary weapon?
I’ve used axe/staff in WvW with wells when I don’t want to get close to the hammer train, but it’s more fun to use dagger instead.
I too was using Axe/Wh & Staff with Wells until the patch, then switched to Axe/Wh & Staff hybrid. I wouldn’t necessarily say that Axe is the primary weapon since the build relies on constant weapon swaps. It’s kind of like playing a double or triple kit Engineer.
As far as QoL improvements for Axe
- Narrow radius 3 target cleave. Also slow and very telegraphed (fix it).
- see above
- Needs a finisher either Whirl or Blast and a shorter cast time.
Been trying out Axe/Axe & GS lately for WvW. It’s fairly similar to what you linked.
If you want pure melee you could Sw/X & GS using either Dagger or Axe on your off-hand depending on your comp and playstyle. Axe will bring the missile reflect and a Pull, but you get the ranged Cripple, Evade and Poison on Dagger.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAR8XjEq0yaDL+rw1aALhq9BEAFAvm1bJ8AFsqB-TZBFwA02fYxRAIxFAoaZAAPEAA
Axe aa aoe cone cleave is counter-intuitive to what the weapon is supposed to be, which is a 1v1 weapon.
If Axe is supposed to be a 1v1 weapon then WTF is Unholy Feast doing on Axe #3?
F comes before H in the alphabet. How’s that for an answer?
You can stealth out of combat with Hide in Shadows, Shadow Refuge, or Blinding Powder. You could also combo Black Powder and Heartseeker/Cluster Bomb. None of those require entering combat. You can chain stealth indefinitely provided you have the initiative.
Axe #1 and #2 should be a cone cleave (90-120°) in front of the necromancer, up to 3 targets within 600 range.
Pretty much this. Would be a huge QoL improvement for Axe users.
I wouldn’t necessarily recommend P/P for FT. P/S or Rifle would be better. Pick whichever suits your needs. When I used to play FT for open world PvE I almost never left FT, so don’t worry about sitting in FT the whole time. You’ll only want to pop out to shoot off a few weapon skills and then hop back in to maintain your Might stacks.
I haven’t played FT in a long time, and have never really spent any time getting to know anything but Healing Turret but you could try something like this for PvE.
The last 2 points you can put anywhere. Also you could swap around the Turrets based on your needs, whether it it be the boons from Experimental Turrets or the turrets themselves.
Well the Hammer really isn’t a PvE weapon, but there are plenty of builds and guides for WvW. There’s usually one one the front page.
You probably wouldn’t be able to make as much use of Rampager on a Thief as you would a profession that can proc a bleed or other condition on crit. You might get better mileage out of Carrion since the primary stat is Condition Damage.
I’ve been using a slight variation of flow’s hybrid build “Staff + Corruption” with good results lately.
I’ve been running with the crystals so far , and doing fine. That being the case, I think I’d save the sharpening stones for any high volume ZvZ action. And you’re probably right about the oils. The crit isn’t high enough in this build to make good use of Barbed Precision, nor are we utilizing on-crit sigils.
Thanks again.
I’ll definitely be trying this out this week.
If you have any questions or need help, don’t hesitate to whisper me in game. In case you’re playing on EU I’m also up for a little sparring session
Got to spend some time on my Necro past couple days using a more budget friendly setup. Performed quite well. Just trying to settle on whether I want to run Sharpening Stone, Maintenance Oil, or Tuning Crystal. Here’s what I’m working with.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNBmODbkjmubLvxnG2bTULISWsGkNCEdpMtA-TlCEwAJUCG5gAA5CA4U53IdAg0M0b/BZq/44JAAwEkgAUE-w
If it’s working for you that’s all that matters. Doing fine with my GS/SB setup.
Saw this guide linked from another thread. Been trying to find something to make playing my Necro fun again. I play predominantly WvW and this happens to be my favorite weapon setup so I’ll definitely be trying this out this week. A budget version, but close enough.
The pigs all have the same special skill, but they dig up different things (with some overlap). And all pigs have “Brutal Charge” as their longest CD ability. It only has a a 300 range, but comes with a 3 sec knockdown.
Having to level a pet, while adding depth to the class, would be a pain in the kitten .
Power or Condition?
I haven’t queued for PvP in a while, but I generally run something similar to Korishi’s build for WvW roaming/small-scale.
25 stacks only bumps it up to 6,921 when I’m looking at it..
I don’t know if something’s changed, but the Bonfire tooltip on the site currently reads 6,359 (half of 12,717).
Strength
Restorative Strength: Leave as is. The aim of the trait is to be able to stay on target and maintain dps, not to clear damaging conditions.
Short Temper: 3 Stacks of Might (5 sec) and 3 strikes of Adrenaline each time you are Blocked or Blinded on a 5 sec internal CD.
Dual Wielding: Leave as is. Shield and Warhorn have their own traits. Or reduce CD on off-hand attacks by 20% keeping the 5% dmg boost. This would require a bump up to Mastery level.
Powerful Banners: Remove. Not sure what to put in it’s place.
Building Momentum: Bumping it up to 25% would be nice without being imbalanced.
Physical Training: Remove the damage increase, and bring it down to Adept. This would make it more accessible, and be able to trade places with a newer buffed Dual Wielding.
Axe Mastery: Leave as is. Mirrors the Ranger trait Honed Axes.
Stick and Move: Thief trait Fluid Strikes is in the same slot ant grants 10%. The current 3% seems underpowered, but 10% might be too much. Should be raised to at least 5%.
Berserker’s Might: Leave as is.
Berserker’s Power: Leave as is.
Burst Precision: Leave as is. The current state of the trait grants 100% crit chance.
Arms
Furious Speed: Leave as is.
Furious Reaction: Leave as is. Other like traits in other classes are also on a 30sec CD.
Critical Burst: Leave as is.
Opportunist: Leave as is.
Furious: Leave as is.
Dual Wield Agility: Leave as is. Shield and Warhorn are not weapons, but utility pieces.
Last Chance: Leave as is.
Marksman’s Skirmish: Nope
Moment of Clarity doesn’t do much for a condition build. How about something like this?
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV8fjEq0yaHL2sQ1aAAhaZAUAtzhmNGY2AZQK/KKv9C-TFCEABJoEcG1fKR3gx7P4wTAAATQUp8z5LCApAgZZF-w