Guild Wars 2

Blinking up the stairs there isn’t possible because the game doesn’t allow you to blink or shadowstap up on walls. That’s probably because you then could do it without stairs too… and what use would walls have if everyone can just blink/shadowstep onto them from both sides?

Now there’s plenty of examples where it really fails even though it should be possible. Sometimes it fails on a straight, even path, just because there might be a little stone somewhere along the way. Or because of some other weird reason.

As for attacks, yeah. Obstructed is something that shows up frequently when it shouldn’t. Popular example would be the siege-weapons in the last area of the Charr-fractal… usually can’t hit them with anything unless you melee them while standing inside their sprite.

I can see your signature just fine.

So, here’s some data bout the guild puzzles we (me and the guild I’m part of) have gotten during the last months:

october 30th: Langmar Estate
november 6th: Langmar Estate
november 20th: Langmar Estate
november 27th: no data
december 4th: Angvar’s Trove
december 11th: Langmar Estate
december 18th: Angvar’s Trove
december 23rd: no data
january 8th: Angvar’s Trove
january 15th: Langmar Estate
january 22nd: no data
january 28th: Proxemics Lab
february 4th: Langmar Estate
february 11th: Proxemics Lab
february 18th: Langmar Estate
february 25th: Langmar Estate
march 4th: Langmar Estate
march 11th: Langmar Estate
march 18th: Angvar’s Trove
march 25th: Langmar Estate
april 1st: Langmar Estate
april 8th: Langmar Estate
april 15th: Langmar Estate
april 22nd: Langmar Estate
april 29th: Langmar Estate

As you can see, it appears that the rng is heavily biased towards Langmar Estate. Especially during the last two months, where we pretty much got it every week (hence we don’t say “we’re gonna do a guild puzzle” anymore, but “we’re gonna do our weekly Langmar Estate”). It feels like it has been ages since I’ve seen any of the other guild puzzles. We already were joking this week about running it blindfolded (or half of us blindfolded) next week to spice things up.

Is this a bug with the rng? Or just a huge bunch of incredible, very unlikely coincidences? What about other guilds? Which puzzle(s) do you guys get?

Menzies The Heretic.3415:

Saturn.6591:

Menzies The Heretic.3415:

Any news on this yet??

Meanwhile check this nice rant. Enjoy

http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/v/4426299

Do you expect everyone to watch almost three hours of Helseth glorifying himself (at least he happened to always do that when I saw any footage of him before), just to find a rant that might take 1-2 minutes?

tl;dr: Where in the video does the rant happen?

I’m sorry, no. I just found that he put my irritation in words very well.
If you hate Helseth Glorifying himself, do not watch this video.

Well, a solution would be to just… you know… tell us at which timestamp he expresses his opinion about the mid-air immobilize? Because that’s the reason for posting the video; isn’t_it (no kitten intended, silly filter). But nobody (and it doesn’t matter if they love, hate or don’t give a kitten about Helseth) will watch 3 hours just to find it. Especially nobody who would be able to work on a fix, since they’ve got other things to do than watching a 3-hour video at work. Like, fixing bugs and stuff.

So again: Which timestamp? I wanna see it, but I’m not gonna watch 3 hours just to find it.

Vash.1920:

sry for the unreplied PNs about the last 4 months but I think the official GW2 forum is to hard manipulated about things u are allowed to do and things u are not

Lolwut. I guess the problem was more that you were playing LoL, just like it was the case back when I’ve pm-ed you ingame after you’ve told me to do so, and your response to my question was far from being helpful (and it was also coming with 20min-breaks inbetween sentences). ^^

Buuuuut anyway… you’re a skilled player and your videos usually are really good and helpful; can’t deny that. So thanks for those, and keep’em coming!

…you have one or two teammates with starter gear (meaning what you have after character creation)
…3 of your team keep suiciding at far
…most of your teammates prefer fighting somewhere off point over going on point
…your Thief has 0 points halfway through the match and then he says “btw, I’m giving up guys” and you reply “you did so since the beginning. thanks for ruining my ranking.” and he’s like “you’re welcome”
…your teammates can’t manage to recap close 3vs1
…your teammates lose every fight, even when outnumbering the opposing team
…you end up in 1vs2 or 1vs3 no matter what you do or where you go because your teammates are either perma-dead or fighting somewhere off point all the time
…your teammates fight over ferocity like their lives would depend on it (especially while your opponents have 2 or 3 points)
…a Mesmer in your team uses the signet-heal
…the opposing team has three pewpew-Rangers on foefire (most pug-teams can’t handle that)
…the opposing team has members of worldclass-teams… especially if one or more of the points above apply

Menzies The Heretic.3415:

Any news on this yet??

Meanwhile check this nice rant. Enjoy

http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/v/4426299

Do you expect everyone to watch almost three hours of Helseth glorifying himself (at least he happened to always do that when I saw any footage of him before), just to find a rant that might take 1-2 minutes?

tl;dr: Where in the video does the rant happen?

Slackoth.2108:

Obtena.7952:

The OP doesn’t make his case well, but there is a damage problem with Mesmer.

Mesmer only does good damage in very specific situations. I can assure you that they are the worst damage when it comes to killing trash. This makes them awful in open world.

Engineer says hi

According to Brazil from DnT, Engineer does really good dps in PvE, while providing Might and Vulnerability. But for that, you need to be really good at playing it, as you have quite a long rotation to follow for max-dps and stuff.

Sebrent.3625:

@phokus:
Are, it would be nice if our illusions (at least Phantasms) were invulnerable for the duration of their first attack. Currently, they can be countered by:

Well; there’s a trait for that. Though it doesn’t cover the full first attack for iWarden I think, since it’s a rather long channel (the attack).

Jace al Thor.6745:

Thanks for the invite last night Chaos! Had a great time and look forward to it again

So something actually happened? I thought it’s delayed by at least a week, since there was no actual time agreed upon yet.

^ lmao

/15ponds

Maaaaaaaayyybeeee… maybe if they would make it so that illusions can only be killed by the person/mob they are casted upon, but with some expiration-timer. Or maybe make everyone who isn’t directly targeted by an illusion deal less damage to it… as in they can help their ally get rid of it, but the “victim” himself can naturally fight back more directly because they are in his/her mind after all.

Ross Biddle.2367:

Dirven.3021:

I easily kill all of you with MtD

/thread

See, this argument works so well because it favors everybody’s best interest. It just depends on the emphesis.

I easily kill all of you with MtD = If you’re using MtD, you get rekt by me.

I easily kill all of you with MtD = By running MtD, I rek you all!

Brilliant.

Lol.

I’d guess Foefire first, Forest second. It happened many times that I’ve had like 3-4 matches on the same map in a row, and it was always one of those two maps. Now between Temple and Khylo… I’m not 100% sure which one of those is voted for more often. I’d guess that Khylo gets less votes.

Fay.2357:

The disenchanter uses an attack. As with all attacks in the game (only exception being merciful intervention), the attack is targeted at and must hit an enemy. The disenchanter uses a bouncing projectile. When the projectile hits an enemy, it rips two boons. When it hits an ally, it removes two conditions.

Right… why did I not guess that. Shouldn’t post when tired (and distracted on top of that). Two boons/conditions? Wow. I kinda thought it removes only one… but the wiki indeed says two, haha. And I’ve even looked at that page last night…

But yeah, I’ve never really used it a lot. It’s good in theory, but in practice, I’ve just found it to be very unreliable. It dies easily (and also dies if you shatter), and you need a target to be able to remove condis… which can be a death sentence in situations where you REALLY need that condi-removal.

RoseofGilead.8907:

Saturn.6591:

Can someone explain to me why everyone, including devs, keep typing “challenge mote(s)”? In that other thread, it’s even in the title like that. Wouldn’t it have to be “challenge mode(s)”? Because that’s what it is… a mode that’s more challenging. A mote is a word too (had to look that one up in the dictionary), but it’s related to dust.

I’m not a native english speaker, so it REALLY confuses me that everyone, half of them probably native english speakers, writes “mote” instead of “mode”… o.o

Mote: a tiny piece of substance

There are challenge motes, small bright lights, that players interact with to start “challenge modes” in particular living story chapters. They’re (the items we interact with) called challenge motes. So, it’s not a case of us using “mote” when we mean “mode”. :p

…riiiight. I was kinda guessing that might be the case… but only this morning, when still laying in bed and feeling too lazy to get up… when my mind drifted to this thread and the post I had made. xD

And then I’d have thought those things might be called orbs or something. Then again; I think I’ve probably not even seen them yet, because I’ve not actually done any of the challenge modes yet… gotta do that someday, though. And I know it’s gonna be fun, buuuut… so many other things I want to do as well (ingame as well as irl). ^^

Thanks for clarification!

1. I think he always targets you, and the bounces go to whoever is closest, although the wiki says he prioritizes allies
2. 4.5 seconds untraited; the numbers for the traited version differ in the wiki
3. the oldest phantasm gets replaced

Gaile Gray.6029:

RoseofGilead.8907:

Gaile Gray.6029:

The bug is fixed and the pack is good to go now.

Thanks for waiting.

The challenge motes are fixed? For real? If so, awesome!

So sorry, my communication was poor there. The issue that prevented the sale of the Series 2 Complete Pack was resolved, so it can be sold again. The challenge motes issue is still under investigation.

Can someone explain to me why everyone, including devs, keep typing “challenge mote(s)”? In that other thread, it’s even in the title like that. Wouldn’t it have to be “challenge mode(s)”? Because that’s what it is… a mode that’s more challenging. A mote is a word too (had to look that one up in the dictionary), but it’s related to dust.

I’m not a native english speaker, so it REALLY confuses me that everyone, half of them probably native english speakers, writes “mote” instead of “mode”… o.o

LMAO! XD

/15 butterflies

Edit: Lol, the game is kinda silly and funny at the same time, haha. ^^

Ross Biddle.2367:

Saturn.6591:

Ross Biddle.2367:

West Side story is one of the greatest broadway musicals of all time.

…okay. Guess that’s why I’ve thought I’ve read the name before. But what I’ve seen in the video didn’t impress me like, at all. ^^

Hey, I never said it was impressive.

You’re probably more of a Cats fan ; D

Not sure; I’ve only ever seen like maybe half of Cats or so on a video. But of course, irl I like cats a lot, and pu…meoooowww… anyway. ;D

Hmmmhm… musicals… Phantom of the Opera is awesome. Also, Space Dream 1. You’ve probably never heard of the latter one, though. ^^

On a sidenote, and slightly more on topic… who in OMFG is in/on EU anyway? I have a feeling that most (or even all) of the activity is NA-based.

Ross Biddle.2367:

West Side story is one of the greatest broadway musicals of all time.

…okay. Guess that’s why I’ve thought I’ve read the name before. But what I’ve seen in the video didn’t impress me like, at all. ^^

I just wonder if the specializations will be an option that you CAN chose to take, but not have to (e.g. the specializations are not significantly stronger than base-classes, but just different). Because I do think it will be permanent (or maybe you can switch it on and off somehow?). But what if I prefer to play my character the way it is now, but can’t go back? Will I need to level every class a second time, to have a specialization while still being able to also play the base-class?

But how would you ever get that many llamas? I thought now is just the second time they actually give one as a reward for ending up in top 500?

Oh hold on; just checked the wiki. Apparently, you could also get one from some tournaments and stuff. That means, if you are one of the top-players, you might get 27 of them in… 5 years maybe? With a bit of luck, that is.

Epic! XD

Loved the song, and the gameplay video is pure awesomeness. ^^

1. Congratz to your new computer!
2. Sadly, this is gonna be NA-only. And at a time where I should be sleeping.
3. What the… @video. I guess this movie is supposed to make sense somehow? (I think I get why you’ve posted it and all, but I mean the movie by itself xD)

Jelzouki.4128:

Until anyone from MtD wins any $$ I’m going to put my money on helseth over MtD.

Nobody who’s defending MtD ever said it’s what you should play in the big tournaments. They mainly said that it works pretty much everywhere that isn’t a big tournament. Helseth basically claims it doesn’t work anywhere else than hotjoin. Or maybe not even there. And his reasoning is “I’m god and this build and the people who defend it are gay.” And this means only that he’s not just arrogant with no end, but also homophobic. Not to mention that he’s far from being always right… as proven for example with the video of him that I’ve already linked where he claimed that everyone is gonna pwn people with mindless 1-spamming with scepter. In fact, he claimed condi-mesmer will become completely broken and overpowered due to torment on scepter autoattack and the change to IE. So really… unless he actually brings up some decent arguments, I’m not gonna believe anything he says. “I’m impeccable and I’m always right” isn’t a valid argument; especially not if the opposite has been proven.

Jelzouki.4128:

Lol @ rude.

This is the internet, if you wanna cry gtfo.

Nobody is crying here. But one would think that some decency would be appropriate. Especially if he wants to make a valid argument in a discussion. But with such an attitude…

On a sidenote, it actually very much looked like he was the one being backside-hurt. Claiming that condi-mesmer could do any good… what a heresy! (Again; funny how he once claimed condi-mesmer always was kinda good but now will be completely broken and overpowered… even before the buff to MtD. xD)

choucs.4507:

http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/v/4025434

45:00
extremely informative.
check it out.

So what was that about sucking male genitalia? Maybe some female players like to play MtD too? Or some gay guys? Anything wrong with that? :P

But ya. He complains about the video, which indeed wasn’t that great. However. His argumentation is even worse, because he doesn’t bring any other arguments than “MtD is gay” for why it’s supposedly so bad. So ya… what did we learn… Helseth is homophobic. That’s all you can learn out of what he’s saying.

Besides… you know. Just because Helseth claims something doesn’t work anywhere outside of hotjoin (even though it clearly DOES work for many people), doesn’t mean it has to be that way. Besides, he SHOULD notice that the video-footage clearly was NOT from hotjoin. But whatever. Oh, and remember; it was Helseth who raged like crazy how adding torment to scepter autotattacks will totally break the game and make Mesmer absolutely faceroll-op and how that’s a super-bad decision and it doesn’t promote any skillful play cause now everyone will just autoattack their opponents to death… so ya. Don’t take everything he says like it’s the ultimate truth.

Edit: Take a look; it’s quite funny.

Edit 2: He actually claimed (back then) that condi-mesmer is gonna be so good, it’s disgusting. And that was even BEFORE MtD got buffed.

Thanks guys.

I think I will go for pack runes then. And since I will crit more and thus trigger Renewing Stamina more reliably, I might as well use Soothing Wave instead of Soothing Disruption.

So…

Build with Hoelbrak
Build with Pack

I have actually made a testvideo like two or three months ago, and this tutorial helped me a lot.

But I kinda didn’t start to record actual fights and stuff yet. I’m recording with nvidia ShadowPlay, and it’s awesome… just it requires me to play in fullscreen-mode (and not windowed fullscreen). Aaaaaaand I totally have a habit to tab in ICQ while waiting for a respawn or a match to start or similar. Or look at a livemap quickly when I’m in WvW. With fullscreen, I can’t actually see what’s happening ingame anymore while doing so. But yeah… maybe I’ll get myself to actually really record stuff at some point. So far, there’s only my testvideo where I’m running through all three LA-jps, haha.

manarchon.2089:

Saturn.6591:

Ross Biddle.2367:

jportell.2197:

Turrets need hotnerfed just to make them a little fun to fight against.

Idea!

Turrets fire cream pies and confetti. Purely cosmetic (and fun)

This is a pure fun buff to Turret Engies. Turret Engies will now come with 100% more fun in matches with this change. You say hotnerf, I say hotbuff ;D

Lmao.

I’m afraid it might feel humiliating then for some poeple, though. ^^

A big black high health and toughness turret spraying creampieshots that would cc you and give aoe stability to keep everyone up would be awesome

I’m not sure if I really understood that the right way, lol… I’m afraid I did, though. If so, I wouldn’t want to get that kind of cc, and I also wouldn’t want to get that kind of stability. Good thing it wouldn’t work out that way, though; since your opponents would actually have to get stability first before the cc could be applied.

Aaaaaaaaaaand now I’m gonna shut my mouth (and any other openings) and hope I didn’t break any rules with this reply.

I guess the only thing you can do is to try to position them as good as possible and respawning them as soon as possible (if needed).

Michal.4513:

off hand sword are most durable

I daresay that would actually be traited iDuelist on max-range. Not more durable, but less likely to get hit/killed.

Michal.4513:

but yea Focus Phantom Traited should be Immunite To AoE dmg.

Not true. iWarden blocks projectiles while it is spinning (and shortly afterwards). Traites iWarden reflects projectiles instead of just blocking them. While it’s not attacking, it is vulnerable to projectiles just like any other phantasm. And it certainly is not immune to AoE-damage.

Michal.4513:

Overal Mesmer can put crazy dmg, each phantom can dish 10/15k dmg every 5s

The only phantasm I have seen crit that high are iWarlocks on some boss with 25 stacks of vulnerability and all other conditions on it, while I possibly had some might-stacks on me as well. Also, most phantasms attack slower than once every 5 seconds, even if traited.

Edit: Totally got ninja’d by Xyonon while typing this.~~

Hamster.4861:

Saturn.6591:

^ I dunno, but if you go for pack runes and thus stack less might, you will most likely need to build a bit less tanky in return, which means you lose out on survivability… if you want to keep your dmg on the same level, that is.

Or do I get that wrong? Has anyone done the math on this?

I Haven’t done the math, but i believe high fury up time will net you more damage than the +5% from having might, especially in WvW, where you can get might stacks quickly and easily, even in a 5 ele party.

Uhm, I mean in comparison to Hoelbrak. How would you think the difference in (theoretical) dps is if you are solo-roaming and fighting someone (be it NPC’s or another player)?

Hoelbrak procs much more might than Pack, and the additional might-duration sums up nicely. It actually adds 6 seconds to Might from blast-finishers and battle-sigil, which means the latter one procs again before the first two stacks from it run out.

There’s an old thread I’ve found from 6 months ago, but some things might have changed since then (for example battle-sigils). Also, he’s using Stone Splinters in the build with Pack-runes, while I’d probably go for Elemental Shielding (aside from a bit different stats overall, but the main factor probably are those 10% from having the trait or not): https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Hoelbrak-Strength-vs-Pack-analysis

Another three ranked matches. First one lost. I have almost won a 1vs2, until it turned into a 1vs3 at mid. In the meanwhile, my other teammates didn’t manage to at least cap back our close. But well… one of them was a staff-elementalist with default gear, so yeah. Second match. The guardian has default gear. But oh well. I get close, then go to mid. I help get mid, in the meanwhile close is contested. So I go back there, quickly help kill them there and run back to mid, where it’s contest again already. I arrive, enemy killed in like 10 seconds, I run back close, help kill there again, then back to mid. Yet, we lose with around 350 points or so. It appears that they don’t get a single kill, even if outnumbering our opponents… but when I arrive, they just melt in seconds. But I can’t be everywhere at the same time. -_- Third match. A guildgroup of 3 in my team. Cool. Might be better this time. Oh wait… we lose 500:50 or so on Foefire. It appears that my teammates kept suiciding on far. I quit PvP for today. Probably dropped another 50-100 ranks or so, but leaderboard didn’t update yet.

WHAT THE KITTEN, WITH SOFT PAWS AND A CUTE GAZE

-_-

…I really should have stopped playing when I was at rank 3xx. Now I’m probably 7xx or so, and every time I play, I will drop more. I might end up at 5% or so if I keep playing, lol.

Ansau.7326:

Noob enemies. They don’t predict to cleanse two or three condi bursts in a row.

PD: That’s what I like the most of MtD. Putting +6 stacks of torment/confusion in a enemy, they cleanse it thinking “I can deal with this condi cheese”, and in a moment they have to deal with the same.

Indeed. Most don’t have enough condi-cleanse to keep cleansing. And if they wait, all the more dmg for me.

Hmmmhmm; I kinda wanted to start recording a while ago. Reason why I didn’t do so yet, is mainly because I would need to switch to full screen instead of windowed fullscreen… and I like the ability to quickly reply to someone in ICQ while respawning or being queued or whatever. With fullscreen, I couldn’t see what’s going on ingame while doing so. ^^

^ I dunno, but if you go for pack runes and thus stack less might, you will most likely need to build a bit less tanky in return, which means you lose out on survivability… if you want to keep your dmg on the same level, that is.

Or do I get that wrong? Has anyone done the math on this?

Ross Biddle.2367:

jportell.2197:

Turrets need hotnerfed just to make them a little fun to fight against.

Idea!

Turrets fire cream pies and confetti. Purely cosmetic (and fun)

This is a pure fun buff to Turret Engies. Turret Engies will now come with 100% more fun in matches with this change. You say hotnerf, I say hotbuff ;D

Lmao.

I’m afraid it might feel humiliating then for some poeple, though. ^^

I also lose ranking points whenever I try to play. I was at rank 3xx. Now I’m 6xx. Gonna try again tomorrow I guess; although I’m afraid I’ll end up at 7xx or 8xx even, without being able to do anything about it.

^Lmao that account-name.

Poor TurreT EngineeR.

But ya, there certainly needs something to be done with turrets. Something reasonable, but enough to bring them more in line with other classes/builds.

First I thought you are trolling. Then I’ve seen your outfit in the video and still wasn’t sure. Then I’ve watched the rest and also read the description. And then I checked the build at metabattle. This could actually work, lol (and might be very fun to play). At least until you are facing coordinated teams… I can see things getting difficult then.

Quintoozla.7893:

Because Abjurred was pretty much the only god tier team in NA and roflstomped other NA teams so ppl thought “omg Abjured hasnt lost in months dem bois gana win kek lol bur”. The first WTS was won by Abjured and they played against TCG who came in second. Then ROM n Tage left TCG and formed their dream team oRNG and roflstomped Abjured in WTS 2. Months of farming lesser teams didnt do the Abjured any good. Bedtime story over.

PS. By everyone do you mean NA ppl? Cuz the true EU believers knew that Abjured is gonna go down.

Thanks. And with “everyone” I mean what I’ve seen posted by most people in this subforum. The general tone seemed to be very surprised. And of course, most congratulated oRNG. But it really seemed like nobody would have expected them to win.

Turk.5460:

I haven’t heard of the people, or the guild, nor will I remember their names after I’m don’t posting this reply. But that doesn’t mean you have to type like a jealous bitty and pretend like theres no player/guild-fans, because reading your post just makes me think you’re bitter because nobody knows who you are or gets excited for things you do.

I don’t watch streams, cause I have lots more fun playing a game than watching other people play games, but at least I recognize that other people find watching to be just as entertaining.

If you didn’t mean to sound patronizing, then I’m truly sorry and understand. That’s just how your post came across :C

Lol no, I’m not jealous at all. Why would I. By no means do I think I’m a very pro player. I’m decent I guess, but there’s always lots to learn. Though, that counts for pretty much everyone I guess, so ya. But I’m not one to judge my own skill-level (or maybe lack of ;P).

I really just was confused about this thread, that’s all. Like when the thread was made about the video where Phantaram teaches sodapoppin or however the name is spelled. Some were super-excited about sodapoppin possibly starting to stream GW2. All hail that super-great guy who will potentially bring thousands of new players to the game! And everybody who didn’t watch WoW-streams had no clue who that even is. (On a sidenote; does he actually still play GW2? Or did he give up on it?) And well, after I knew who that Rom-guy is, I just was wondering why it seemed like nobody expected them to win… a team of known good players. Which I got the answer for by Quintoozla now.

Elitist.8701:

Power shatters hit because of IP and sword immobilize.

Thus, double-ranged doesn’t hit shatters either. Oh wait.

Elitist.8701:

Also because of greatsword 2 from stealth.

Ah, right. But that’s one clone + IP. So that’s a 2-clone shatter. Hmmmhmmm.

Elitist.8701:

Condi mes has nothing to land shatters.

Well… we can actually get close and personal; thus spawning the clones closer to our opponent. And unless they run off-point or dodge (which they can do vs power as well), they WILL eat the full shatter.

Elitist.8701:

And you’re saying to use the block when they use AoE but they can still dodge lol.

If they dodge the block, then they will not dodge something else (for example a shatter).

Elitist.8701:

In a teamfight you literally do NOTHING at all with this build. If there’s just one shout warrior then it basically becomes 4v5 because you can’t do any damage.

That may be the case on WTS-level, but in normal ranked arena matches (where most teams aren’t super-coordinated and extremely experienced), it very much can melt people. You can even win 1vs1 vs shoutbow warriors at times. And just today, I’ve killed the same D/D-ele (who was not extremely good but quite decent in comparison to the D/D-eles I’ve seen so far) 4 times in a row. Of course you’re just gonna say that they were noobs, but seriously… it looks like only very very few players out there aren’t noobs then. Thus, the build is perfectly fine for everything that’s not a big tournament, for which all the pro-players crawl out of their holes where they (apparently; according to some people here) are hiding normally.

So if they are so well-known… why was everyone so incredibly surprised that they won the WTS? After all, you would think that well-known skilled players are expected to do good in a tournament, with a realistic chance for the title. Yet, after their victory, everyone seemed to be incredibly surprised, like something unthinkable happened. Kinda doesn’t make sense to me; thus I assumed they weren’t really known before.

Edit: To answer the question; no I didn’t know about TCG. All I’ve seen from TCG myself is the tag written somewhere. And for CM, I know even less. CM for me means Caudecus’ Mansion, and that despite me playing much more PvP than dungeons. ;P

Edit 2: Doesn’t change the fact that I still don’t get why everybody was so surprised about oRNG winning when their players were known to be very skilled before that already, though.

GoogleBrandon.5073:

Saturn.6591:

Gaberen.4325:

Not sure if I misunderstand you, but Rom is pretty well known.
Rom from Orange Logo (Orng) WTS winner

See, I’ve heard of the guild. They won WTS indeed. But I have no idea who their members are… and I kinda doubt most people in here knew before they appeared (and won) at WTS.

At least I will enter my weekend laughing

If everyone knew them before, how comes that (apparently) everybody expected them to lose? Did they improve their gameplay by 500% all of a sudden during WTS?

Gaberen.4325:

Not sure if I misunderstand you, but Rom is pretty well known.
Rom from Orange Logo (Orng) WTS winner

See, I’ve heard of the guild. They won WTS indeed. But I have no idea who their members are… and I kinda doubt most people in here knew before they appeared (and won) at WTS. After all, it was hyped like a sensation in the style of “David beats Goliath – previously unknown team beats (the demigods) Abjured!”

William C.6195:

You clearly don’t have much involvement with the PvP community, lol.

1. See above
2. There IS no PvP-community outside of this very subforum. And I didn’t have the time to watch the streams. And before you ask, I didn’t get to read the blogposts (where they might have been listed) yet… well, actually I have forgotten to do so in the meanwhile. And to be honest, I don’t see why I should memorize the names of every player who won a tournament.

William C.6195:

Saturn.6591:

1. What the heck are you talking about?
2. I’ve never heard or read any of the names mentioned in this thread.

Rom’s “RomOnRum” stream last night.

Also, ROM wins everything. I was laughing so hard.

Aaaaaha. So some random dude who streamed some PvP (and probably announced it on reddit or so), I guess. Okay. Thanks for the clarification.

Lmao; a friend just told me about a ranked-match he just had:

I had 3 thieves in my team. I’ve requested that at least one of them swaps. The answer was “shut up noob l2p before ask swap”

Edit:

ketchup.2783:

Anet, for goodness sake, just get rid of all solo queues and just make it so that only premade teams of 5 can compete. You know you want to. Every indication of the implementation of spvp leads to this. That way there will be more of a likelihood that we can make and play with more friends, such that the end product will be a higher retention of existing players, which is probably the end goal of this mess.

I have no idea how you come to the conclusion that allowing team-queue only would lead to MORE players. If anything, it would make it nearly impossible to play in non-hotjoin for a majority of players. Including me and everyone I know ingame. Not everyone has 4 friends online at all times who would be up for some PvP, you know. Heck; I even usually see players from PvP-guilds like ZeuS queuing alone or with one other guildmate.

Arantheal.7396:

So I were running cele rifle, and guess what: one barrage + blunderbus + jumpshot is more than enough to deal with the rocket-turret, and then it’s just poison-spam and cc-spam, until the turreteer falls over.

Lol. So you pretty much waste your 3 highest burst skills to kill ONE turret (obviously while perfectly avoiding all the turret attacks and cc and all the attacks and cc the engi himself does). Granted, it’s the most damaging one. But even if you kill that one, you will still get immobilized, burned, knocked down and whatever A LOT. And decently-played turret engies have tons of sustain, so they will likely put the rocket turret back up before you even brought them low on health. Heck; there’s a reason for why a friend of mine usually can hold off 3 enemy players for like 2-3 minutes when he’s playing turret engi.

Arantheal.7396:

Once the engi goes into downstate, he has no control over his turrets anymore, so he can’t explode them, nor overcharge them. Go in for the stomp as you please in that moment.

The turrets still autoattack you, though. Also, the engi still can interrupt your stomp once or twice with his downed-skills. So it’s not like you just could stomp freely. If you’re low-ish on health, you’ll likely get downed before the stomp is done, unless you have access to invulnerability or similar. Or you know… in those 2 minutes you needed to bring that engi down, it’s likely that a teammate has come to help him, in which case you are screwed.

Also, it’s hilarious how your solution is “form a team with 4 other skilled players”. Guess what. I know around 8 people or so that I play PvP with and that I know are at least decent. However, they are not always playing when I am, and often they also play PvE or WvW when they are online. Also, I can not actually use teamspeak with all of them, since some aren’t even playing on the same server.

Also, it’s simply ridiculous that there’s a build that 1. takes at least 2 minutes to be killed solo IF the person who plays the engi is bad, or simply is immortal in a 1vs1 if he’s really good; 2. still is a huge pita and takes at least 2-3 players to be killed in a reasonable amount of time… ALL THE WHILE the guy who plays it doesn’t need much more than the skill-level of a 5 year old. Just drop your turrets, make sure to kite any opponent around the turrets and add your own dmg and cc to the already ridiculous dmg and cc your turrets provide. Don’t forget to enjoy the plethora of boons on you. Profit.

1. What the heck are you talking about?
2. I’ve never heard or read any of the names mentioned in this thread.

Same here. I keep losing most of my games since a few days already, and I don’t know how. It’s not that I would be playing worse than I normally do. But it’s that I get matched up with people who do stuff that I have seen happening when I first started to play PvP. Players, who seem to think the minimap is just a fancy decoration item. Players who magically can turn 300:200 into 550:310. Players, that sometimes just leave the match and turn the whole thing into a 4vs5. In the meanwhile, the opposing teams are often incredibly coordinated. They even had players from guilds like oRNG or 55 hp monks in their team (two times so far; once a warrior from oRNG and once a turret engi from ELE).

I mean, what can I do. I even team up with a friend who plays turret engi and thief, and even if he binds 2-3 opposing players at far and I fight 1-2 at mid, nobody would get the idea to help me at mid or at least take our close back. Instead, they fight I-dunno-who somewhere off point (usually some bunker guard or thief). Oooooor talking about bunker guards; I once had a team where our bunker guard tried capping far for like 5 minutes, despite not dealing any damage. That was a while ago, though. But ya. Matchups are terrible these days, and I feel like I get punished for playing PvP. Because instead of gaining ranks, I keep losing them because I lose match after match due to being teamed up with people who have no clue vs well-organized teams.