Guild Wars 2

Look at games that have successful PvP, like League of Legends (which I personally can’t stand, but millions play it).

Look at how often they patch, and how often those patches contain balance changes:
V4.2 Feb-10-2014 , has balance changes
V4.1 Jan-15-2014 , has balance changes
V3.15 Dec-13-2013 , has balance changes
V3.14 Nov-21-2013 , has balance changes
V3.13 Oct-29-2013 , has balance changes
V3.12 Oct-1-2013 , has balance changes

Now compare that to GW 2 patch history, and how balance patches can sometimes be 3+ months apart! As OEggs said, it is detrimental to the players.

As a computer programmer with 8+ years experience, IMO it is a very lazy choice to balance this slowly, an easy out for the programmers & balance team

No, the chests will contain materiels like in PvE, since there will no longer be PvP gear.
All gear is becoming the same, although in PvP the stats are nullified.

This means people who play PvE and WvW a lot can keep their looks when coming into PvP, and PvPers can finally build Legendaries with PvP rewards.

Also, while PvPing, you can set reward tracks for yourself, which is even more stuff you can get.

They talked about a lot if not all of this on the ready up they had today. Here is a link, check it out → http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/c/3968869

They have been saying for over the last 3 months that Glory and PvP materials will be removed from the game with the feature patch (although glory was removed was a bit sooner).

ATM, I do not have a link/quote, because I just assumed it was common knowledge.

As for something fun to do in PvP waiting for Queue, some massively difficult jumping puzzle that encompasses the whole lobby and goes way up in the sky, where there is a ‘bouncy room’; sorta like the floor and walls are entirely made of the mushrooms in Super Adventure Box.

Gotta agree with OEggs on this. We should have 6 trinket slots: 2 rings, 2 accessories, 1 back slot, and 1 amulet. JUST like PvE and WvW have.

We need MORE build diversity, not less.

NO, do not add complexity runes as they stand; the #4 and especially #6 need to be substantially nerfed before these runes are in PvP.

If you are going to add runes of perplexity to PvP, PLEASE NERF THEM (see attached screenshot).

As they stand now, these runes will make the Meta terrible! Either don’t add them, or nerf them hard.

They said custom arena, which hotjoin is a sub-section of.

This post is lol.

How dare ANet make high ranks realistically achievable!?
What an OUTRAGE!!!

For 2v2 and 3v3, go Arena Style.

But for 5v5, I could see TDM working; maybe first team to 100 (5 min time limit, 5 points per kill as usual).

Prepare your anus for Sigil of Intelligence + Valkyrie Warriors; guaranteed 3 crits per 5 second weapon swap WITH high power and massive crit damage, all while being very tanky

Sigil of Intelligence + Valkyrie on several Warrior builds (not JUST Hambow) could be a very powerful choice after the new patch. 5 sec weapon swap + 3 guaranteed crits per swap + lots of power and Ferocity, all while being very tanky.

It’s gonna be fun to try out

Buying a new Trait in PvP will probably cost gold, since PvP gives gold (no more glory).

I think 2 Gold per Trait, and please, PLEASE, make it ACCOUNT bound.

I think the patch will change up the meta, not sure if it will change it enough to de-throne the holy PvP trinity of HamBow, DecapEngi, and S/P Thief

IMO, the new Traits + Sigil/Rune changes will throw the balance up in the air enough that what is OP today might not be OP in 3 weeks.

Probably until early May (6th or 13th, not sure which will be patch day).

73. The PvP community is not full of bitter burnt out players who stick around the forums to complain about a game they no longer play. I mean look at this thread as proof!

Making balance decisions from the ready up matches would probably not be a good idea, as some/most of the players (including the ele) are not top tier PvP players.

With that being said, everyone knows ele needs some love in PvP, we will have to wait until March to see…

A potential counter I see to this build; you have no stability, so a good Warrior using Hammer (or any other form of hard CC) would probably lock you down while cleansing/ignoring your conditions.

1. Guardian
2. Warrior
3. Mesmer

Justin ODell.9517:

o_O Where to people come up with this stuff?

ALL of us play PvP. Though, I’ll give you that I’m no where near as good as Powerr, Grouch, Roy, Hugh, and Tyler. I’m pretty sure they’ve all made it to the top 100.

I play on Isle of Janthir, and you can usually find me in Solo Arena as Flux or Aegir.

OP pawned, +1 Justin.

Thank you Josh, u da man <3

This needs to get fixed …

Preach it Caed, spot on.

Other game modes for PvP are ‘in the works’, which means March at the earliest, end of year at the latest

Divinity.8041:

game is in ruin, what else is there to say

#allisvain , amm i write?

<3 this thread.

#allisvain

“Based on your feedback, we decided to revert our proposed change to Deceptive Evasion.” – THANK YOU!!!

> I feel like Ele will need a few more buffs in the survivability department to be viable in high-end PvP.

> The nerfs to warrior are perfect IMO, it should bring them to an acceptable level in PvP (not sure about WvW).

I played against this very ranger last week, and you can tell he is a good player. BUT once you target him and start to lock him down, he dies so fast he becomes a liability for the team he is on.

Brando.1374:

Serdoc.7261:

Ryld.1340:

Monk
798 Healing
569 Vitality
569 Toughness

Please. For my staff ele.

NO.

This is just as bad as Dire, possibly even worse.
We don’t need more tanky meta, we don’t more condition meta.

Remove all except for zerkers to get rid of a tanky/condi meta….. did I get that right?

That is not what I said and you know it.

We do not need stat combinations that make bunkers or conditions more powerful in PvP, there is already too much of both going on.

Ryld.1340:

Monk
798 Healing
569 Vitality
569 Toughness

Please. For my staff ele.

NO.

This is just as bad as Dire, possibly even worse.
We don’t need more tanky meta, we don’t more condition meta.

Assassin: Yes to PvP, would encourage builds that are not bunker or condition based.

Cavaliers: Yes to PvP, might open up some more builds.

Knight: Yes to PvP.

Dire: NO to PvP. NO NO NO! This would encourage more bunker condition builds, which are already too powerful.

Magi: Yes to PvP, could see this opening up new avenues for Guardians.

Apothecary: Yes to PvP, basically Settlers with healing power instead of toughness.

kirito.4138:

EU – Desolation
NA – AnvilRock/Blackgate/JadeQuarry/Sea of Sorrows

^ Agree, all solid choices.

Putting new lines between paragraphs would really tip the Necro balance scale -_-

GW2 pvp is GREAT !! But… posts like this should turn everything around and get the game fixed in record time -_-

LelouchViBritannia.3607:

Lydell.8713:

Ironcloud.3892:

Well that’s disappointing. They could have at least tried to make it more clear that there would be nothing for a couple of months.

Also, I love how they specifically mention pretty important bugs, like Nature Spirit healing for the wrong amount, yet they don’t even have fixes for them in the upcoming patch.

I don’t understand how you and so many other people missed the info that the massive balance thing wouldn’t be before at least the LS is concluded. I’ve read/heard it several times and I’m not even fishing for that kind of information all that much.

It’s because they said clearly the balance changes (not the sigil changes) will be in the next feature patch. Which was todays patch.

I am pretty sure they didn’t.
Could you give a times-tamp where they said that?

Here is a link to the cast: http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/c/3581129

I am thinking that ANET knows about how warriors could abuse the old 9 sec cooldown with on Swap.

They have already said that a lot of sigils are getting toned down with the massive re-design of the sigil system, so I would bet they will address the possible cooldown abuse as well.

Amityel.5324:

well making jokes vs their customers is simply unprofessional easy as that. I can accept it since he was “just” streaming guy till he get a job in ANET so he has no experience with behaviour to customers.

Lol, pull the stick out of your kitten , wow!

The balance patch will be in March.

In the last live-stream they had, they specifically said (multiple times if I remember) the balance patch will be with the next feature patch. The next feature patch is in March.

The balance patch will be in March.

In the last live-stream they had, they specifically said (multiple times if I remember) the balance patch will be with the next feature patch. The next feature patch is in March.

The balance patch will be in March.

In the last live-stream they had, they specifically said (multiple times if I remember) the balance patch will be with the next feature patch. The next feature patch is in March.

Stat combos I would like to see in PvP:
- Magi (798 Healing Power, 569 Precision, 569 Vitality)
- Assassin (798 Precision, 569 Power, 569 Ferocity[or crit damage, whatever])
- Knights (798 Toughness, 569 Power, 569 Precision)

Whatever you do ANet, please, PLEASE, do not add Dire, that would throw PvP into a massive condition bunker meta (even worse than it is now), and make PvP even more boring than it already is.

DiogoSilva.7089:

Strong skills should be more telegraphed. That’s just how it is.

Absolutely.

Hopefully all powerful offensive abilities across all professions will get similar treatment, perceivable animations with a 1/2 or 3/4 sec cast time.

I think the buff to immobilize makes sense in PvE, but it is out of place and creates frustrating /cheesy situations in both WvW and PvP.

Please reduce immobilize max stacks to 1 for WvW and PvP, leave it at 3 for PvE.

No unlocks in PvP please.

Everyone should be on equal footing gear /skill selection-wise.

ANet, please read this thread, listen to Countless, and re-adjust accordingly.

Although, if the past is any indicator, the possibility of averting the Deceptive Evasion nerf is virtually zero

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1vharm/ready_up_livestream_notes/

Well, the closest thing to a detailed guide is: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/New-to-PvP-Start-here/first#post3420542

After reading both your posts, I honestly think, not trying to be jerk, straight up, you just need to play more games and get used to the combat /all profession abilities. But if you are this frustrated already, probably GW 2 PvP is not for you.

I have meet and helped a LOT of players new to PvP, none of them have come back in the last 1.5 years. The brutal truth is the PvP in GW 2 is not that good (for various reasons), most people will not stick around after trying it.

All signs point to NOPE.

This patch will probably not include any new PvP modes, nor will it include any balance, at least from what I have heard so far.

Maybe I am wrong, but I wouldn’t hold my breath…

Ah GW2 and Esports.
The conversation that has been a dead horse since Oct 2012…
Hint: it ain’t gonna happen.

Just play the PvP if you have fun with the PvP, and if you don’t like it, stop playing.