Guild Wars 2

I don’t want everyone to automatically have access to everything. I’m perfectly fine with having items gated off by skill. But saying “You can’t get this item anymore because they removed the way you can acquire it” is absolute bullkitten to me. There’s absolutely no reason to deny someone else the same ability as you had to get an item, just because they weren’t there at the time.

That’s my problem, and you’re beating around the bush as hard as you possibly can about that.

It’s not about height, it’s about the posture of the Charr. When out of combat, they stand hunched over, and they run on all fours. The problem is that their model is actually larger than it appears to be. So, when trying to get as close to the edge as possible before jumping, Charr often unintentionally jump sooner, because it looks like they have less space.

It’s confusing to explain unless you’ve played a Charr enough to see it yourself.

I’ve heard people say World 2 was not very popular due to participation numbers — however, everyone that I’ve seen talk about SAB said that World 2 was still excellent.

The theory is that the reason why W2 didn’t get as much attention is because it was released alongside another feature patch. So… you can’t really blame the player base for being split on it’s inception.

Goose.5196:

Yes it did. The original Guild Wars was focused primarily on PvP.

No, it didn’t. PvP was definitely a game type, yes, but it did not focus on it. If you missed out on it, the vast, vast majority of the game was PvE. Even when just talking about the base campaign.

What race are you playing? Because if you’re a Charr, the jumping puzzles would not be calming. :p

A name is just a name. So many games nowadays have so little to do with their titles (some of them outright misleading if you’re making assumptions there). Personally, it doesn’t matter much to me either way. If they changed the name to “Poop Wars 2”, I’d still play it. I’d just maybe talk about it less in casual conversation.

I thought that’s the way it worked, myself. IIRC, if you put in at least three of the same weight of armor, the item to come out should be that armor weight as well. So, ideally, the weapons should work in a similar fashion.

Mesket.5728:

are you talking about those under-worked fairy neon glowing blue tiny wings? holy cats why would anyone equip something as awful as that it beyond me…

Maybe some of us want to be neon fairy dragons. >.>

kokiman.2364:

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418:

kokiman.2364:

You are like 4 months too late with that.

Dude, it’s a PSA. Public Service Announcement. It was posted to bring attention to the fact, for those of us that weren’t aware of it.

I had no idea about this myself, so I’m glad he posted.

Oh you mean a “reminder” ?

No, not a reminder, because as I said, some of us never knew about it to begin with.

Surely this isn’t the best use of your time. If you don’t like the thread, you don’t have to post in it. -__-;

@anzenketh – That’s why we’re testing it. To see whether it’s a bug, or whether the story got boggled up somewhere along the way. If it’s a legitimate bug, we need to find out where it is and report it.

kokiman.2364:

You are like 4 months too late with that.

Dude, it’s a PSA. Public Service Announcement. It was posted to bring attention to the fact, for those of us that weren’t aware of it.

I had no idea about this myself, so I’m glad he posted.

I’m sorry, but I don’t consider an MMO to be competitive, unless you’re playing for the PvP or WvW. Getting some kind of enjoyment out of finding competitiveness in PvE completely defeats the purpose of it. PvE is the COMMUNAL part of the game, the part where you’re supposed to play together and advance as a team, not see how much “better” you can be than the other people you’re playing with.

MMO’s are meant to be social games. By taking stances like the ones you are, you’re essentially spitting on others you don’t deem worthy enough, and showing how “inferior” they are for not getting one thing you just happened to be in the right place at the right time to get. It’s kittening ridiculous.

Remember, we’re NOT talking about items that are skill-based or dedication-based to receive. We’re talking about items you only got because you were there. There’s not even anything competitive about that anyway.

Astral Projections.7320:

GreyMouser.1235:

It’s not a block on new low-level characters, it’s a block on new accounts. If you are a veteran, several of the level-based content gates are already unlocked. This is one of them. It looks like, according to the wiki, Asura gates are unlocked at level 18.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Level_rewards

Unlocked? Or information about?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Level_rewards
18
1 WXP Mini-Booster
Information about World vs World
Information about Asura Gates

Another possibility is that that was a trial account. Those do have some gates (WvW) locked to them. Maybe the LA portal is a bug, or it wasn’t the LA portal but a WvW portal the guy was leading a newbie to.

Hmm… I was planning on buying a new account for myself anyway. I’ll do that tonight, and do a bit of research, then post back.

Vesuvius.9874:

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418:

They blocked the gates too. That figures. Still stupid and crappy, though. Makes it harder for new players to play with friends of different races.

I know so dumb. I really want to fight lvl 80 Risen with my lvl 2 char but ANET won’t let me. So stupid and crappy!

Okay, 1) the sarcasm really wasn’t warranted considering the legitimate reason I stated for wanting access to the Lion’s Arch Asura gates, and 2) the gates leading to the Pact area don’t even open until the level 60 personal story anyway, so regardless of the racial city gates being blocked or not, this would still be a moot point.

They blocked the gates too. That figures. Still stupid and crappy, though. Makes it harder for new players to play with friends of different races.

Well said! Thank you for the input.

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

Holographic Shattered Dragon Wings.

- Can’t be bought or sold.
- Only obtainable during one event period over a year ago.
- Event was expected to come back this year but did not due to LS2.
- Was not offered as a possible reward when the festival was brought back like many other previous event skins.
- Had a guildie once tell me he would trade me a Legendary if it was possible to get my wings.

*mic drop*

…which side of the argument are you in favor of? I can’t tell. >.>

Conski Deshan.2057:

Whats the reason for playing now as opposed to 10 years from now when all the original content has become even easier if there are no exclusive items?

While the majority of your post is completely detestable, I’d like to pick out this particular part to comment on.

Why do you play video games? Because it’s certainly not for the same reason as most of us here. I play a game because I think it’s FUN. I don’t give a kitten how old it is. I don’t care that people have played it first, beat it first, did everything there is possible to do first. What other people do or do not do has absolutely NO bearing over my personal sense of entertainment.

And seeing people like you, that apparently only get enjoyment out of lording their accomplishments over others? That’s twisted. I think you need to re-examine your life if your idea of fun is showing off to other people in an online game proof that “you were there first”, especially considering that is the only accomplishment being displayed by what you’re talking about.

mahri.8410:

The single console that could run Guild Wars 2 is Xbox One. Xbox One is in fact a PC with exclusive content, like Amazon tablets that run Android but can’t access Google Play and have a custom interface. Xbox One has the same PC architecture, and inside it runs pure Windows 8. It actually has 3 layers of Windows 8. So…yeah…it might rather come to Xbox One that to Wii U.

Hate to break it to you sparky, but more consoles than “only the XBone” are a PC. The PS4 is also based on the same architecture that modern PCs are, with an x86 style processor.

And, hate to break it to you, but even though the 360 and PS3 used proprietary processors, they still had normal PC architecture. The PS3 itself is actually a Linux flavor, and the 360 being a modified verson of (I believe) the Windows Phone OS.

Oh, and even the original Xbox itself was a Windows CE device. The architecture and file hierarchy works just the same as any normal PC, the only difference is the way the processor interacts with everything.

RoChan.1926:

“Maybe the game is not for you” is never a valid argument. EVER.

Behellagh.1468:

If a player posts on the boards about how much this game isn’t WoW and would be so much better if it had more WoW in it then this isn’t the game for them.

I dunno Ro, that sounds like a pretty valid use of “maybe this isn’t the game for you” to me.

Well, then what about crafting? There are a lot of sets that rely on crafting (exos and ascendeds). Does that make this an extension of the crafting system? Or Black Lion Ticket weapons? Those you can buy from the TP. Does that make this an extension of the TP?

You’re thinking about it completely wrong. Just because the completion achievements rely on things you can get from other portions of the game, that doesn’t make them an extension of that part of the game. They’re merely a related system.

At the same time, a lot of collectibles are incredibly rare drops you can only get from dungeons. Does that also mean the Collections is an expansion of the dungeon system?

Technically, they said they won’t be releasing any new content during Living Story seasons. What the major request in here has been is to simply re-establish the already-existing SAB, permanently.

Oh, I didn’t even think of those Wanze. Then, not only would you have people getting charges ridiculously cheap, it would also hurt the people that want access to those skins. Either the prices would inflate drastically, or they would just completely sell out on the TP.

Where is it ever stated what kind of cultural influence went into the Tengu? What makes you think their buildings have a Chinese flavor to them? Everything I’ve seen about the Tengu make them firmly Japanese-based.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

well, collections are expanding on the karma rewards system…

How so?

No. This would be a broken system, mostly because you can already get a lot of the “free transmute” items that you have unlocked from the achievement panel, any time you want for free.

If they implemented this, you’d have people making dozens of copies of the free transmutation items from their Achievement panel, just to harvest them for free charges. Charges that usually you have to pay for or jump through hoops to get.

So, no, this will not happen.

@Rognik – You don’t need to do “One button, one function”. You can have single buttons (or triggers) open up sub-menus. RPG’s have been doing it for YEARS.

For a recent interpretation that works pretty well, check out Defiance. It’s a shooter-based MMORPG that is on consoles as well as PC. They use the L2 trigger to open up a sub-menu to use abilities and powers. In Defiance’s case, you scroll through the abilities you want to use, but it would be just as easy to make each ability in a sub-menu linked to a different button (X, O, L1, R1, etc.) only as long as the menu is open. Outside of the submenu, each button would have its own separate function.

THAT BEING SAID, I don’t support this idea at all. Yes, consoles could very much handle GW2 (if my crappy laptop can play it, then so can at least the new gen of consoles, if not the last gen), and yes there could be a user interface set up that works perfectly well for controllers. However, just because it can be done, it doesn’t mean it should be done. It would still require months – if not years – of updates, changes, and customization to make GW2 work on any console, and frankly, the potential gains are not worth the time and money spent on a project like this.

VergilDeZaniah.3295:

Stupid question but if the higher-ups are the ones who don’t want to see different Asian cultures being mixed, why could they agree on giving more importance to one than another? As far as I know, the only Asian themed weapon is Japanese…

And there is some kind of a mix: a Japanese weapon on characters than could use a finisher with a Chinese dragon!

Something is not clear on that one :-/

You forgot to mention the Monkey King Tonic and Monkey King Finisher, both of which are also based on the Chinese story Journey To The West. And all of the Dragon’s Jade weapon skins that are very heavily Chinese themed as well.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dragon%27s_Jade_weapon_skins

There’s a different skin for each weight class. It isn’t three different skins with three different weight classes.

duckideva.6358:

I’m just annoyed that my hero is this great dragon slaying, Protector of the Land, but those snooty royals still don’t want to let me in to their precious little pavilion.

What, you kill things for a living? And you expect to be invited into a civilized area such as the Pavillion? MONGREL! How DARE you entertain such thoughts!!

Brother Grimm.5176:

What server did you transfer to?

If Yaks Bend, send me a mail as my Guild is always interested in new recruits.

Well, guilds have been updated to fully support the Megaserver system now, so what server s/he is on really doesn’t matter. They’ll have access to everything now either way. :P

Allelya.6830:

I don’t want end-game anymore, I want more stuff. Two years and now we have dry, tasteless Living Story about two lesbians worrying more about each other than about Tyria.

…not only does that sound INCREDIBLY bigoted, but I don’t even know what the hell you’re talking about. Are you even PLAYING the living story?

Also, I’m not the OP. My post was in reply to the ORIGINAL poster, who has since deleted his comment. So… yeah. Go ahead and step right in here, late to the discussion, and make assumptions about everything you missed over the last week.

The discussion has moved on FAR past these first comments. Either catch up to what is being discussed now, or just leave the old stuff drop. This comment is no longer relevant.

The heck with the Shatterer. I want Zojja and Mr. Sparkles!

kokiman.2364:

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418:

You got something awesome, why don’t you want other people to be as happy as you about being able to get it?

To be special, to have a way of showing people “I’ve been playing this game since release”

Right, but as many people have said already, a lot of the old items that are hard to get and that people find so “prestigious”? They’re on the auction house. Anybody can buy them with enough money, even if they only started playing yesterday.

Using weapons/armor skins as showing people that “i’ve been playing so long” is really stupid, especially when we already have exclusive titles for events that have long since ended. If you really wanna show off how long you’ve been playing the game, pop on your Hero Of Lion’s Arch title.

Which waypoints in particular are you talking about? I know of several that are still not working properly.

Liewec.2896:

imho this game needs more one-time-only rewards, it adds reason to play and a feeling of prestige and reward.

So, since you’re the one that said it, I’ll ask you directly. I already posted it earlier in this thread, but why does it matter to you if someone else can get access to a skin they want? What benefit do you personally get out of denying someone something that would make them happy? It’s just a skin. It’s a bunch of pixels grouped together to look like a thing. You wanted it, and you have it, so what do you care who else can have it?

Asmodeus.5782:

Again

“sharing map with other people” does not equal “sharing map with a horrible kittenload of people”.

And again, what constitutes a “horrible kittenload” is completely different from one person to another.

As stated previously in this thread, some people think just seven others is too many. That’s less than two parties. And that, I feel, is ludicrous.

If you’re really so upset about having less than a dozen other people join in events with you, then you SHOULD NOT be playing MMO’s. At all. Because that is not an unreasonable amount of people to be participating in a single open-world event.

Right, but that’s insinuating that a large portion of the player base migrated here from GW1. I’m actually one of the people that got into GW2 because it was being touted as a “different kind” of MMO. I didn’t play GW1 until much later. From what I’ve always thought, there were more fresh players than GW1 vets in this game.

(Also, used-to-be-evil or not, I still think the Charr are one of the coolest fantasy races out there.)

Not gonna happen. ANet used those rare drops for a reason.

Monk Tank.5897:

The game is plenty asian enough without it. If you want to play Asian..make a sylvari.

How… the HELL… are Sylvari “Asian” to you?

And also, I’m sorry other people like cultural diversity in their games?

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Etien.4601:

fireflyry.7023:

I vote leave it and don’t bring it back.

I want that skin SO BAD but I’m glad it’s so rare and unattainable. Much like the festivals in GW1…you were there and had a chance to get it or you weren’t. I wasn’t.

Don’t cheapen it Anet. Release a variant maybe but I’d hate to see yet another reward cheapened by a festival and gifted to the masses in hind-sight a year or two later.

Why the hell not?!

Exclusivity is serious business, especially when all it required was you being in a specific place at a specific time.

Ugh, I had so many issues with people in League Of Legends because of things like this. They brought back some “Exclusive Holiday Skins” and sold them after they had been retired for two or three years, and half the player base had an aneurysm over it.

I was happy, because I got my favorite skin for one of my favorite characters in the game, because they brought it back. It bothers me why so many people have a problem with someone else getting something they already have. Why do you want exclusivity so bad? You got something awesome, why don’t you want other people to be as happy as you about being able to get it?

@justkoh – Your imagination when coming to people with heavy armor is very limited. Just because they have heavy armor, it doesn’t exclude them from a lot of different things.

I take offense to you saying the Guardian is “a stretch”. Have you never played a Paladin in other RPGs? That’s what a Guardian is. A holy fighter, imbued with the spirit of justice. Some people would also make the comment that he’s a Runeknight/Mageblade, which are two other fantasy trope characters that are heavy armor but deal with magic (in this case, with elemental instead of holy, usually).

There can be just as many classifications of “big armored guy slinging spells” as there can be of “weak clothy guy slinging spells”. What’s preventing us from having a variant of the heavy armored guy that does illusion-style spells like the Mesmer? The fact that we already have a mesmer, yes, but what if we didn’t have a Mesmer class already? Would you decry the fact that the illusionist had heavy armor, and why?

In the same regard, what’s wrong with having a “time mage” in heavy armor? They could very much use their time-related magic to get an edge in melee combat. Freeze your enemy for a second so you can get a lethal hit on him, speed yourself up to react faster, etc., etc…

I’m disappointed that the Charr are the least-played race. I’m actually surprised Asura aren’t, I barely see any of those around… ever.

Humans and Norn I see a ton of, of course, and Sylvari are plentiful enough…

@ProtoGunner – I wouldn’t put down a blanket statement like “MMOs aren’t suitable for consoles”. It really depends specifically on the MMO itself.

For example, I’ve been playing a bit of Defiance lately, and I think it’s a perfectly fine MMO for consoles. By the way, it’s an MMO Shooter with some RPG functionality. MMO is a blanket term itself, MMORPG is a specific, of which GW2 is a part.

I know of a lot of MMO’s that would be good for console, even some MMORPGs. For example, TERA I think would be perfect for consoles. The control scheme is simple enough that it would work with a controller’s limited button allotment.

@Aicus – That is correct, however, I don’t see what the big issue is about only getting bronze on one of the defense events. Are people really that worried about getting the little bit of extra money and karma? I think successfully doing the event is the most important part, regardless of what participation rank I got. I’d rather stomp the grubs and get bronze passing the event than ignore the grubs and get gold while losing the battery.

Retro, I think you did an amazing job in your opening paragraph explaining just why some of these other ideas won’t work. It’s not about opposing ideas just because we don’t like them — it’s because there are legitimate gameplay-related reasons why they just won’t work.

Thank you Piogre, that is a great list of the “false titles”.

Randulf.7614:

Gaile Gray.6029:

zenleto.6179:

Torsailr.8456:

Scipio.3204:

Alright, I’ll try.

There is no challenge in anything after two years,

Hmm, hardcore mode? If the character dies, it’s gone for good. Can not WP back to life, can not be rezzed from full dead(dead, not downed). If the character has any rare or better equipment it gets auto-sent to the mail box, otherwise it’s deleted along with the character. Make a new char and start over.

How far can you make it on one life?

Permadeath. I have two character slots for this. Fun times.

How far can you get? ~curious~

Randulf.7614:

Well over 100 words, so try not to shoot me with the Smiting Bow of Fools

Yes, it is with regret that I inform you that you are totally smote.

<———— warrior traited with reflect shield

Personally, I wouldn’t mind being smitten by Gaile. :p

@Labjax – It may have been done before in other MMO’s, but is it done in the same way?

I’ve played a good bit of Warcraft, and I know Rogues for starters have poisons they can attribute. The differences here? For starters, the poisons only stack up to 5, not to 25, so that’s already a significant difference in the number of calculations that will have to be done (if the system works how I think it does, anyway, not 100% sure on that). Secondly, though you can have about the same number of players doing any one event, most classes can only have a single stacking debuff or condition on an enemy, simply because they don’t have the ability to generate multiple conditions. (About the only exception to this I can think of is the DeathKnight, who had three types of poisons the last I could remember.) Whereas there are plenty of classes in GW2 that can stack three or four debuffs/conditions per person, which again ramps it up even higher.

Also, the last I saw in WoW, 25-man raids were the high-end. The 40-mans were being phased out. That also puts a huge cap on the number of effects being calculated at once. Fights like Teq and Triple Trouble have four times the number of players participating in them than the common Raid instances WoW has, and over double that of even the larger-scale ones that might not even exist there anymore.

The point I’m trying to make is, though other games have done condition DoTs in a similar way, there are actually a ton of things that you might not consider that will actually make huge differences in the calculations being made. GW2 has a deeper conditions system, which means it might not be able to support the same breadth that other MMO’s are able to employ. That being said, if you do know of any other MMO’s that do it to a similar scale of GW2, I’d be happy to hear you out, because I personally don’t know of any.