Guild Wars 2

Thanks very much Jim!

terrorshard.3854:

I think we can at least agree that DH’s are everywhere though

Its interesting you say that but ive played a fair number of games in the last few days and in about one third of the games i was the only guardian in the match. In the others it was one other guardian (DH of course) on the other team. (so 2 players out of 10)

So unless matchmaking is really messing up for me im not seeing this “DH’s are everywhere” that you mention.

Admitedly i didnt play a big enough number of games to be statistically significant but still.

Hi,

im planning on levelling my Rev shortly. I will toming up the boring lower levels and basically just doing levels 60-80 in Tyria while collecting Waypoints and Hero Points.

Which weapons/legends/traits should i be using to make life easy for myself in terms of dps and mobility across the map please?

Thanks

glaphen.5230:

The amount of DH players defending it on the forums grows by the day.

What do expect when QQ’ers create multiple threads or the same thing in other people’s threads?\

If someone makes a whining post about ANY class it really shouldnt surprise you to find people defending it. Especially the ones whose main toon is that class.

Starfall.6425:

~~~~ !!! Congratulations !!! ~~~~

As the owner of the 100.000 DH-flame-thread you get a special present.
A-net will gift you a truckload of [Packet of salt] and you are allowed to do the balancing for one DH skill/trait for the next balance patch.

Because we are currently in “DH-hate-week” you will get a addition gift.
We are proud to hand you a coupon for a one week cruise on the M.S. Cry me a river.

LOL…….im literally crying……

im just gonna laugh here at all these players that refuse to adapt.

If you refuse to listen to advice, just create a DH in pvp. Play around with it for a day and you will quickly see its weaknesses. Surprise surprise you will find that you can fight them much better now.

Well im enjoying DH while i can because the QQ wont stop till DH gets nerfed. Meantime i logged on my level 2 Revenant and level 2 Scrapper last night and started to get a feel for how to play them (and against them).

I have no doubt that “when” DH inevitably gets more nerfs people will realise how good Scrapper and Revenants are.

Zombie Fury.5804:

This spec needs to get nerfed or remade badly they’re a better ranger then rangers are…I was on my necro on skyhammer and had a DH camping skyhammer the entire game with all his traps up there…the second you tp up you get 1 shot absolutly nothing you can do about it. and nerf the perma knock down from the wall in ability.
oh and on a side note- https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/208459/xZ2VRTd.jpg (40k trueshot) should NOT be a thing…at all

Hmm sounds like me. I played a couple of Skyhammer games on Saturday night and decided to camp skyhammer with my traps. I gotta say it was very effectice 1v1. if the enemy team had sent more than one it would have been more difficult but no one could budge me 1v1 on skyhammer.

It wasnt 1 shot though. Lets not exagerate here. I was running full DPS spec (pack runes, marauder amulet) and no one was getting one shotted.

one month will give them enough statistics in terms of which classes are being played the most. Team comps, skills/traits.

i agree with Asmodal. Honor is way better than valor for an Aegis build. I use Radiance/Honor/DH for my PVE build. Lots of Aegis heals and high crit chance coming from the Radiance line. Spammable F1 from renewed justice also.

Elpredator.8523:

Scrapper ,reapers easily beat DH you sacrifice sustain by using traps….dodge the friggin traps if you see them place the traps don’t kitten jump on them honestly there’s so many counters and they have barely any condi clear as DH stop whining and learn.

The circle of life in GW2 pvp means there will be continuous balance and always at least one OP spec. People will QQ till DH gets nerfed to oblivion. Players will move to next OP class (probably scrapper which is looking real good right now). All the QQ will move to that class. Then probably reaper.

The trick is to enjoy pvp the best you can. If that means playing your fav class whether it is OP or not or bandwagoning like a lot of other players. Its up to you.

I have only ever seriously pvp’ed with Warrior and Guard. But Rev will be my next level 80 toon and pvp toon, although Scrapper is calling me too.

The best proof IMO if a class is too OP is when if in the next tournament we see teams made up of 2 or more DH like when we were seeing 2-3 DD Cele Ele in Teams . If DH doesnt make it to that level then its just a good spec not an OP spec.

Morwath.9817:

Spartacus.3192:

Morwath.9817:

Spartacus.3192:

Im still amazed at the number of scrubs that see my DH standing on point and they all run to attack me in melee range.

Sorry but they deserve to die if they do that.

Pro Tip. If you see a DH standing in the middle of a point just shooting at you from range with his longbow DO NOT RUN ONTO THE POINT.

Do you even understand what you’ve said?
If a Ranger would write such stuff people would just eat him alive…

im pretty sure i understand what i wrote or i wouldnt have written it. Back when Turret Engies were OP or DD Cele Ele was OP you had to bring a spec that could fight them. If you played right into their strengths you’re gonna die.

And thats because they were OP, if DH follows same pattern, its also OP and requires fixing?

I didnt say DH wasnt strong. I do think its strong, however, there are counters. If you recall that Turret Engie and DD Cele Ele were OP for MONTHS!!!. It was only a few days before the tears started to flow and QQ started on DH and nerfs were brought in.

Dakarius.3284:

Spartacus.3192:

Im still amazed at the number of scrubs that see my DH standing on point and they all run to attack me in melee range.

Sorry but they deserve to die if they do that.

Pro Tip. If you see a DH standing in the middle of a point just shooting at you from range with his longbow DO NOT RUN ONTO THE POINT.

And what am I supposed to do as a thief? His ranged damage is far greater than mine. Oh that’s right, thieves aren’t allowed to 1v1. Never mind, carry on.

Oh im sorry that the days of coming up behind a player in stealth and stunlocking/bursting them down in 3 seconds are no more.

Morwath.9817:

Spartacus.3192:

Im still amazed at the number of scrubs that see my DH standing on point and they all run to attack me in melee range.

Sorry but they deserve to die if they do that.

Pro Tip. If you see a DH standing in the middle of a point just shooting at you from range with his longbow DO NOT RUN ONTO THE POINT.

Do you even understand what you’ve said?
If a Ranger would write such stuff people would just eat him alive…

im pretty sure i understand what i wrote or i wouldnt have written it. Back when Turret Engies were OP or DD Cele Ele was OP you had to bring a spec that could fight them. If you played right into their strengths you’re gonna die.

SlayerSixx.5763:

Most of the DH QQ is coming from this trap but people don’t know it.

I dunno i see QQ on everything about DH these days. In fact most Medi DH dont even take the procession of blades trap.

Im still amazed at the number of scrubs that see my DH standing on point and they all run to attack me in melee range.

Sorry but they deserve to die if they do that.

Pro Tip. If you see a DH standing in the middle of a point just shooting at you from range with his longbow DO NOT RUN ONTO THE POINT.

quaniesan.8497:

This inquiry for “advice” is nothing more than a stealth request for nerf. How do I know. Whenever an advice is given, the OP ardently dismissed it into “the trap is a death sentence, there is no way around it (nerf please?”). Luckly we are not mesmers or he will go and ask for visual marker for the real one among the clones.

OMG awesome idea…maybe i should post on mesmer board !!!

“mesmer clones are soooo annoying i use up all my burst on one and realise its a clone. please put an icon over the real mesmer for us noobs so we know who to target”

LOL

Kuya.6495:

People, again, seem to be confusing two different kinds of trap DH, probably due to a lack of knowledge.

A medi trap DH will likely not have his traps off CD since he uses those traps immediately along with judge’s intervention to aoe burst. For this, the medi trap DH has to use all utilities. The only instance in which you will be hit twice in a row by the same trap is if the DH had enough time to set his traps on point and enough time has passed for all traps to be off CD for him to use with judge’s intervention. This variant is the same old dps medi guard but with traps added to the rotation. This is a direct buff to medi guard since before medi guard’s burst came from shield of wrath and whirling wrath. Now they can use this, plus aoe burst ulitities. This gives medi guard something it lacked before: direct burst damage utilities, other than smite condition, that is. On the negative side though, it loses out on condi cleanses and heals.

A full trap DH, on the other hand, tries to have his traps off CD as much as possible so he can use them twice in a row if the initial burst didn’t kill you. But this variant can’t teleport to you since it doesn’t bring Judge’s intervention. They instead use traps defensively to keep you away from them while they snipe from range.

Finally a sensible clear explanation because judging by the posts i see,. most non DH players think DH can do ALL OF THE ABOVE in one build.

yes pls do something about elite spec…..ive tried and tried but nothing looks good on paper or in pvp (testing) vs non elite spec builds.

luckily my other toon is a DH, otherwise i would be gutted for spending money on expansion.

Great lets balance a class based on how it does vs an NPC in conquest….

Never thought i would see a post like this.

LOL

i think they should go back to splitting pve vs pvp since balancing 3 game modes (pve, wvw, pvp) just around people QQing because they dont know how to dodge is just silly.

It just makes me laugh all this QQ. When DD Cele Ele was broken with its bugged ring of fire people were still able to fight them. You learned not to roll around walking in and out of the ring. You learned when to burst them and when not.

DH is nowhere near as OP and DD Cele Ele was and yet people cry because they never heard of dodge or LOS or baiting a DH to move away from his traps.

smh

i was playing burn guard with permeating wrath and supreme justice pre HOT and tried it again as DH in HoT and i have to say pure power DH is much stronger than burn guard unless you have a very large amount of enemy mobs in your traps.

glaphen.5230:

Lol 33.33% chance on your 2 dodges. Yes you might be able to dodge the closing jaws but I don’t really know because the trap animation is invisible to me 90% of the time.

Why is Dragons Maw animation invisible to you but visible to EVERYONE else?

glaphen.5230:

Sunshine.5014:

The power creep is too extreme. Obviously they should need things. No class should be able to 1v2 for more than 5 minutes. No class should be able to burst another one in less than 5s. Both the extreme bunker and extreme damage dealer needs to be nerfed.

If a 1 vs 2 lasts 5 minutes it means they had no damage dealers or were extreme bads. I see no problem with 5 second kills, problem is DH 2 second kills.

DH 2sec kills can only happen to players who dont know where their dodge skill keybind is.

But yes i agree this power creep is very bad for the game. Extreme bunker/extreme dps burst should be toned down.

I havent logged my Warrior since HOT was released. The Elite spec has to be the only one that actually makes the class weaker.

LOL 1 sec elite duration? LMAO……
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L2P or rather L2Dodge

I like the trap mechanism as it is. Makes proper positioning of the trap and yourself important in order to increase chance of the trap getting triggered.

100% agree with the need for movement speed. In the meantime ive put a Sigil of Speed in my Longbow which is working really really well. I have perma swiftness in events with lots of mobs and after each encounter with a group of mobs i end the fight with around 3 minutes of swiftness which is more than enough to get me to the next place i want to go to.

Working just fine in HoT maps. Wouldnt want to use in WvW since i would rather use other sigils there.

i havent tested my DH in dungeons yet but before HOT i was running Warrior Phalanx Strength build in dungeons and loved it. That build will still work for dungeons but for HOT and pvp im really liking DH.

my first toon was guard and my main for about 8 months then i went to main a warrior for the mobility in WvW. However the DH spec is soooo good especially when measured against how bad Warrior elite is. Im not even going to bother getting the elite spec for my warrior until it gets buffed.

Killyox.3950:

Spartacus.3192:

Guardians would sell their kidney to have Phase Traversal even with the CD. just saying.

Guardians have better things unless they nerfed it.

Battle for Kylo Clock Tower point. Have team mate Call Target to someone on point and you can use Flashing Blade (10s) teleport from below the point to teleport up to that person without running around. Same with Judge’s Intervention. They also have a good Leap on GS.

They have their own unique toys.

PS

Guardians can explode all of their weapon, heal, utility and elite skills. Rev is limited by energy even for a healing skill. So apples to oranges. 5s PT on a guardian or any other class would be OP.

I mean for wvw (i play guard) and i would love the disengage or spammable catch up skill like phase traversal. Even 5 sec cd is way better than anything we could dream of doing in a WvW setting. There are so many transient mobs around in WvW that you can traverse maps at light speed or disenage from a losing fight by targeting a mob and teleporting to it with PT. Our judges intervention has a 36 sec cd and flashing blade is 10 sec and only moves 600 range.

Dont get me wrong i dont like the change since i love that mobility and i plan on levelling my Rev once i get my last skill unlocked on my Dragonhunter. (only 2 more hero challenges to do).

Guardians would sell their kidney to have Phase Traversal even with the CD. just saying.

good thing about this nerf is that it nerfs those cheese stealth trap thieves in wvw a bit.

Acotje.5689:

They were fine until you could use them in spvp.

+!

they should never been allowed in pvp. They would have been fun to use in WvW. I never used them in pvp i prefer Pack runes on Dragonhunter.

Awww man i like phase reversal the few times i tested it in HOTM. But to be fair this looked to be super OP in wvw. Uncatchable and can disengage from a fight so easy., Can still do it, just now with kitten cd.

Inflames.8026:

The elite is on a reletive short cd even with a meesly 15 cd extra.

You get to murder 5 people every 75 sec now instead of 60 or whatever it was

if anyone is able to “murder” 5 people at once in pvp with Dragons Maw, then those people were all bunched up together and AFK. Dragons Maw is the easiest trap to dodge/evade.

Zatoichi.1049:

it was nerfed for PvP, and in all fairness, you dragon hunters didn’t know trapper runes would wnd up in pvp when you thought DH was kitten. Trapper Runes are a big part of what makes it strong

Not really. I much prefer pack runes over trapper runes. I actually feel i do way better with pack runes.

DH was crap pre BWE3 feedback regardless if we had known about trapper runes.

Thanathos.2063:

Again: You can buy each recipe for a single laurel if you want another copy.

Where is the npc i can buy from pls?

thx

I actually like the tougher mobs in Maguuma. I dont have any problems with them but i cant just afk walk through stuff, i need to play a little. i prefer they leave as it is.

well this nerf on Maw means i can take my time to get my last 25pts to max my DH trait line. I wouldnt use it even if i had it. I like renewed focus and feel my wrath better anyway.

I pretty much camp Longbow in Maguuma using Radiance/Honor/DH. Wearing Zerker/Valkyrie gear. Mobs usually die before they even get in melee range. And with Traps causing cripple you can kite em forever.

Cat Has Ducks.1982:

Spartacus.3192:

Where can i read up on the new changes pls?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-October-23-2015/first#post5666116

Thanks

Where can i read up on the new changes pls?

stop running in and out of the test of faith trap and you will only get hit once.

And i have noticed in various threads that whenever someone QQs about a class’s damage ability, strangely enough the damage numbers are always multiplied by several factors with no screenshot/log proofs.

Asuras have smaller wings i think….less surface area to catch the updraft. Nice physics programming there Anet. :P

Hi all, i’m having a blast with DH in HoT even though i only just got half the elite unlocked.

My question is what specs are you running for PVE in HoT?

I literally just got my second trap (well 3rd if you count the heal trap) yesterday. But i was using a shout build before so i could slot retreat and save yourselves for moving around the map.

Thanks.

+1 i havent tested it recently but i normally use LB for pvp so definitely want it fixed if it isnt.

Welcome to the K-TRAIN in HoT as zergs steamroll over content to get the hero points…. lovely scenery? Nope too busy keeping up with zerg to look.