Lol.
I’m gonna say this now.
Ranger CANNOT build the most damage of all of the classes. Especially against thief despite all of the QQ saying they hit just as hard yada yada. Yes, RF has high scaling but the ranger has no boon access under a DPS build and has substantially lower damage modifiers (less than half) of other classes, notably a good burst thief.
The absolute maximum possible damage output on a ranger’s rapid fire is somewhere along the lines of 13-15k if one assumes max stacks in WvW and a 100% crit rate and food. These wild claims of being hit for 20k RF’s could only be the source of a ranger with 25 stacks of might from other people and the target with 25 stacks of vuln.
Thief backstab – not even the combo – can throttle over 20k depending on the foe.
Proof? Here’s mine, to demonstrate how even after the ferocity nerfs these numbers can be achieved because thieves have so many more damage modifiers whereas the power longbow ranger gets a measly traited 20% at absolute best if flanking and at full endurance. See the screenshot below – and that’s on an 80 heavy with no food or stacks.
And the full CnD combo usually includes mug which yields a total ratio of 1 + 1.5 + 2.4 = 4.9 before considering the effects of might and other readily-accessible boons thieves have access to in order to increase damage. It doesn’t matter that steal has a 30 second cooldown because your target is DEAD. One also needs to consider how burst thieves have access to 16 stacks of might for 10s instantly.
Oh, and such thieves initiate at 2100 range through instant-speed blinking gap closers, which every other class also has access to, many of which also have a multitude of reflect effects, body blocking, inherently high HP/defense, damage immunity, etc. To say RF is overpowered because a full GC ranger gets some predictable and easy to avoid burst damage is just terribly inaccurate, since you can see it coming and can also LoS it through terrain unlike every other melee attack. Are thieves OP? No. Are longbow rangers? No.
Just like I tell people who QQ about thieves being OP, go and play the class/build for yourself, learn it, and then you’ll find out how to beat it. I get a lot of QQ whispers from other thieves I fight when I CnD off of them while they’re stealthed complaining about hacks or lag or some other BS, but ultimately these builds are predictable and in my experience as playing a thief I’ve learned how to beat them fairly easily; they’re easy to counter, and are the source of complaints by players who just simply refuse to learn to get better at counterplaying.
This post explains your crusade against any thief build not D/D.
Thank you for clearing up the source of your l2p issues.
That being said I will have to laugh at the entirety of your argument because it’s VERY misleading and chocked full of untrue statements.
1. That pic of thief burst is only doable on a full signet thief. That means there is no initiating from 2100 distance. Also it’s got 2 HUGE tells as in 2 1 second casts before combo. The next point I like is the fact you are from the Maguuma server if memory serves me right……the last time you fought kain was a LONG time ago before ferocity.
2. RF requires zero set up besides pushing a button vs the sequence required to do a full signet steal CnD bs combo. 2nd you are landing RF 1900-2400 units away faster than the above mentioned combo well under 2 seconds which puts the above mentioned thief dead before finishing casting his basilisk venom.
3. If backstab can hit for 20k you’re kitten sure RF can too since it’s multiplier is higher than the 2.4 backstab one.
Now this is where i can tear into your comparison based solely on range/ttk/ease of execution, or I can flip the script with just how miniscule the risk/reward of RF is. Don’t forget ya got great mobility on that ranger build as well due to GS, but keep up the good fight mate I’ll be laughing
