A free for all gamemode sounds kind of cool, but isnt there already an activity like that, southsun survival or something? The problem with changing anything in wvw regarding time is how it would affect scores, simply taking one whole day off means one day less that servers have to add to their scores. And in some matches those scores can literally come down to the last hours.
There are tons of ppl who don’t look at the score or care who wins.
1 day of mayhem every so often would be a nice change
I fully believe these adjustments are well deserved and help with build diversity for our eles
NO. Here’s why. Some guild will just get their raid together and spawn camp, meaning one less day of wvw for most of the casuals.
Much better idea would be to implement some real gvg maps and get a ladder going for 10v10, 15v15, 20v20.
Then another guild comes and kills em.
Each spawn also has 3 ways out of it.
No.
But for EOTM sure.
EotM has already killed off lots of the WvW population.
Let’s make the last day of every month or every other month in WvW a free for all.
Your servers spawns would stay safe of course but outside you could kill anyone.
We can make it so being in the same party or guild makes you a friendly so group play can happen.
I think it would be great fun to do this the last day of every month or even 3 months.
Now before ya start hating on it take a moment to really think about it. Might help rejuvenate WvW a bit.
I talk to enemy server players all the time.
It’s very enjoyable and can lead to great fun. Do some get all raged out Yes
But the majority of those people block you and spam you. If anything a block should be removed if you whisper the blocked person.
If you are afraid of being whispered hate tells then it’s time to utilize the block/filter functions that are present in the game.
Used to run Frontline back in the day.
Always in SB blast finishing the fields and requires a good group to utilize thieves up there.
Proper stability distribution, water field use, and protection up time.
The best part of having a thief in the Frontline is the damage from shot gunned cluster bombs is really nice.
Trickery has been the thief’s most OP trait line for quite some time now.
I’ve gotten 9 K crits on HS before.
I wvw for first time in like a year the other day. Used old 06620 build. I find it now impossible to play thief without trickery… In wvw you also need sa for 1vX. I am trying 00626 with full berserker. Thinking of using rage runes for longer fury up time instead of scholar…
PM me I’ll fill ya in
Signed
Notsoserioius
20606 has been around for a LONG time. It sucks people are starting to talk about it b/c only a select few knew about it originally.
Yeah 20606 has been around for a while, but usually for S/D. Very few D/D thieves were running the build because they were shoehorned into the old Yishis mindset. 20606 is simply better for D/D as well.
I ran it on D/P and D/D like over a year ago if I remember correctly. I immediately switched and never used it for a reason….now it’s a “pr0” spec I guess
20606 has been around for a LONG time. It sucks people are starting to talk about it b/c only a select few knew about it originally.
So we’re all in agreement that Engies need a nerf?
Good let’s move on to the next topic
I’m sooo bad at teef
ps who’s better OP or this Jesse dood. I needs halp on teef
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Am I the only one that finds it funny with all the “Ele is OP! Nerf!” threads, that no one has put it on their list of hard counters more than once as the actual hard counter. Ironic.
Actually look into d/f eles.
Diamond Skin vs condi
Them not hard countering other classes doesn’t mean they aren’t too strong but that’s another thread entirely
We all know em but I think many people are confused about which ones really are actually hard counters
I’ll start
Med Guard vs Thief
You continue
Lol the typical d/d zerker thief who expects he will backstab and faceroll anything.
Thief hater identified
once you’re done with all that you’re welcome to join in on the discussion of hard counters
The only way someone would think that guard hard counters a thief, is if he played a d/d setup with zerker/glass build.
Nope general consensus is on my side.
Lets just make the statement that if you are losing to power thieves on a guard then it’s a l2p issue.
As for thief > mesmer I agree in tPvP meta builds only. The other more 1v1 focused mesmer builds are not hard countered. Again I am not talking condi thief here.
Yeah my thing was if you screw up the timing you can actually hurt your dps and your healing, but I guess latency usually wouldn’t be enough to change the timing drastically enough to hurt it.
Also when making a macro you plan it with latency in mind.
You’ll give extra hundredths of a second between actions
S/D thief vs. Elementalist
Thief vs. Mesmer
Power Ranger vs. Mesmer
Med Guard vs. Warrior
Diamond Skin Elementalist vs. All pure condition builds.
Necromancer vs. Engineer
Necromancer vs. Elementalist
Moa Morph Mesmer vs. Minion Master Necromancer
Staff Elementalist vs. Turret Engineer.
Stunlock Mesmer/Warrior vs. Necromancer
Bunker/Condi Ranger vs. ThiefThese are just my opinion, but I always feel like I’m at the advantage if I’m playing in these situations. :P (or disadvantage if I’m the one on the right)
s/d thief v ele = wrong
med guard v warr = wrong
necro v ele = wrong
mesmer v necro = l2 dodge
stunlock v necro = wronghere are the true HARD counters imo:
thief v mesmer
necro v engi
ele vs guardianand thats about it
This. Please stop with the misinformation.
Not disagreeing with you but let’s get some elaboration
I play all weapon sets on thief….
Okay but you still seem close minded but it’s fine thief=/=assasin ….never played gw1 even if I did they change the name for a reason but that’s off-topic.
Idk where you are coming from but may I assume it’s based on my statement on condi tjieves?
If that’s the case then you obviously play one and I must apologize for your choices
I prefer p/d >d/d>p/p but the main reason I tried it was because it is the opposite of the assasin overshadow on thief we don’t have much set diversity. A p/d was the very first video of gw2 I saw randomly lol first tried build so yeah I am not ashamed of playing it but so much happen since then ^^ used to play C9.
Don’t worry I started when the present condi thief wasn’t here I was used to carrion 0 0 30 20 20 meta or not it helped me passed the time as I was leveling and discovering the game.
PD was ezmode then as well. It has just gotten even more rediculous today.
Wow, this thread is extremely misinformation and chalk full of mistakes. Generally in the case of folks making broad claims such as “X” professions hard counters “Y” profession. When that is not correct. Some professions builds may trump the so called “meta” builds of other professions. To claim a profession as a whole, trumps another profession as a whole, is embarrassingly misinformed.
Necro vs Engi
I play all weapon sets on thief….
Okay but you still seem close minded but it’s fine thief=/=assasin ….never played gw1 even if I did they change the name for a reason but that’s off-topic.
Idk where you are coming from but may I assume it’s based on my statement on condi tjieves?
If that’s the case then you obviously play one and I must apologize for your choices
We all know em but I think many people are confused about which ones really are actually hard counters
I’ll start
Med Guard vs Thief
You continue
Lol the typical d/d zerker thief who expects he will backstab and faceroll anything.
Thief hater identified
once you’re done with all that you’re welcome to join in on the discussion of hard counters
I play all weapon sets on thief….
Well you’re wrong already
Med Guard does not counter the entire thief class and all the thief builds
Condi Thief > Medi GuardThe best S/D thieves beat medi guards also
Condi thieves aren’t thieves.
Those are the kids who used GameShark back in the day.
I’m talking power thieves
p.s. SD doesn’t beat med guard when player skill is remotely close
We all know em but I think many people are confused about which ones really are actually hard counters
I’ll start
Med Guard vs Thief
You continue
Thank You
Someone finally gets it
If Anet banned based on key input times A LOT of players would have been unjustly banned.
People who bot are running macros for hours repeatedly not 1 second every so often.
It’s not hard to identify a macro, they have very easy to identify input patterns that make them standout.
Willing to bet 90% of the top players would be banned under your method.
If Anet banned based on key input times A LOT of players would have been unjustly banned.
People who bot are running macros for hours repeatedly not 1 second every so often.
I was told it’s bannable to make automated macros a la lightning whip stow weapon, the person told me they can see that the actions are too perfect.
If this is not the case then I have been putting myself at a disadvantage and will be using my k95 more efficiently now.
Someone lied to you
Macros are fine as long as it is “One Click = One Action”. If you record a macro that allows one key press to handle multiple tasks, then you are going against the terms of service as discussed by ANET.
For the lightning whip/stow situation, if someone is performing both tasks with one key press, then yes, they are a cheater. Will they get banned? Maybe or maybe not. I just don’t want to hear about people complaining when they do get banned for cheating.
Can’t be detected and even at a live event you’d have to be watching the players hands to legitimately tell.
Ever experience an ele macro’d scepter burst?
Need moar updates on your failures and successes
I aggressively attack the mesmer.
Works for me
I was told it’s bannable to make automated macros a la lightning whip stow weapon, the person told me they can see that the actions are too perfect.
If this is not the case then I have been putting myself at a disadvantage and will be using my k95 more efficiently now.
Someone lied to you
There’s no issue IMO with allowing cancel casting autos to be more efficient, but it’s a problem with stow weapon lightning whip because of the results you achieve with healing signet.
The benefit is too strong in that situation. I have no issue with players being able gain a benefit by being able to use their mechanical prowess to unconsciously gain a minor upper hand. It’s just too much with the elementalist right now.
You do realize that we live in an era of 12 button programmable mouses and keyboards that can run multiple in game actions at the click of a button?
This is a case of hardware superiority not mechanical
What does this have to do with anything?
My opinion is that if someone can pull off the timing of stow weapon casting on top of everything else they’re doing, I don’t mind if they have a slight advantage, I mind when it’s at the effectiveness the elementalist is currently at.
Everything since I can set my 12 key on my mouse to auto attack and cancel at the fraction of a second needed to. This means i just hit 1 key to auto attack/cancel making it just as easy as smashing my face on my KB.
That won’t work, you still need to execute the timing. You’ll actually cancel lightning whip mid cast and put it on a one second cool down if you mess the timing up.
Uhh nope because I can set the time between actions by hundredths of a second.
That means a perfect auto/stow everytime.
There’s no issue IMO with allowing cancel casting autos to be more efficient, but it’s a problem with stow weapon lightning whip because of the results you achieve with healing signet.
The benefit is too strong in that situation. I have no issue with players being able gain a benefit by being able to use their mechanical prowess to unconsciously gain a minor upper hand. It’s just too much with the elementalist right now.
You do realize that we live in an era of 12 button programmable mouses and keyboards that can run multiple in game actions at the click of a button?
This is a case of hardware superiority not mechanical
What does this have to do with anything?
My opinion is that if someone can pull off the timing of stow weapon casting on top of everything else they’re doing, I don’t mind if they have a slight advantage, I mind when it’s at the effectiveness the elementalist is currently at.
Everything since I can set my 12 key on my mouse to auto attack and cancel at the fraction of a second needed to. This means i just hit 1 key to auto attack/cancel making it just as easy as smashing my face on my KB.
There’s no issue IMO with allowing cancel casting autos to be more efficient, but it’s a problem with stow weapon lightning whip because of the results you achieve with healing signet.
The benefit is too strong in that situation. I have no issue with players being able gain a benefit by being able to use their mechanical prowess to unconsciously gain a minor upper hand. It’s just too much with the elementalist right now.
You do realize that we live in an era of 12 button programmable mouses and keyboards that can run multiple in game actions at the click of a button?
This is a case of hardware superiority not mechanical
I thought you were being a man and talking about WvW but soon realized it was PvE
I don’t PvE but I do man up in WvW.
Zerker all the way
Go Go Rally Bot. Please join Blackgate! :-)
Mail me the necessary gold to get me there and I will
Willing to bet I won’t be seeing the gold :-)
You must never have looked into transferring to BG before.
idc who gives me the money be it the original fella who popped off at the mouth, you, or some fella from BG
fact remains i call all talk zero action
I thought you were being a man and talking about WvW but soon realized it was PvE
I don’t PvE but I do man up in WvW.
Zerker all the way
Go Go Rally Bot. Please join Blackgate! :-)
Mail me the necessary gold to get me there and I will
Willing to bet I won’t be seeing the gold :-)
I thought you were being a man and talking about WvW but soon realized it was PvE
I don’t PvE but I do man up in WvW.
Zerker all the way
I have no idea how people can give you advice without asking for your traits or your weapons. Do you need SA to survive? Do you want trickery? Do you prefer D/P or D/D?
For example, if you run sleight of hand, thrill of the crime, and pack runes, then pick zerk/valk over assassin’s because you’re going to maintain very high fury up-time. If you don’t have access to a lot of fury, then mix some assassin’s in so you don’t have to pick hidden killer over executioner. This assumes you trait into critical strikes at all, which you certainly don’t have to.
What stats you pick depends crucially on your traits, weapons, runes, sigils, etc.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAoaVlsMpyplPx0J8PNBNBtdFGeI4uGlYGaFAA-TliDABuqE0gHAAAm/Q4EAsz+DfoPQgjAgPK/i4QAAj6PECQwWA-w
Made it quickly, you can go for more zerker if you want. (its D/P, but D/D works, too)You generally don’t need 18k health, especially playing D/P. Would spec a lot more knight/cav/zerk in, and take out half of the valk pieces.
No no no
This fella wants to play teef with his kitten in his hand
Ala Full Glass
Go for a mix. Full zerkers is optimal but higher crit % takes Better advantage of executioner
It’s because no one plays. Drop the conquest and let’s get more players
I’ve played in all aspects of WvW on thief.
I’ve ran front line in a zerg busting guild
I’ve done GvG’s
I’ve Solo roamed
I’ve done small man
I’ve zerged
You can do it all on a thief as long you have the proper set up or team. When running front line the cluster bombs were sick damage along with a spammable blast finisher. You just had to have other classes provide you with protection/stability.
I’ve run both and each is fun.
When Panic kicks in though you can literally feel the wtf scream through the monitor
I’d prefer devourer as an elite.
Thats the problem with devour
It’s not an elite and hard to justify dropping one of your getaway utilities.
Unless you are just 1v1’n
Thieves don’t spam they finish it
if you are losing to a thief at this stage in the game you need to seriously reconsider build/play that you currently employ
if you are talking about tPvP then you need to realize that the thief is only strong as the 2nd/3rd man on a target. there is zero reason to change the ability unless you plan to fix the bugs that make it fail.
Yeah a spammable block skill for SD is an excellent idea
/shudder
Why not run all of them instead of just picking one?
Against multiple opponents CnD is easier to gain stealth.
The only thing I advise against is PD condi.
Playing PD condition thief will give you cancer.