Guild Wars 2

inb4
Anet will fix LA.
LA will be beautiful again.
Month after Mordremoth will destroy LA again.

TSW has a very unique pve.
But story wise, it’s far more appealing than what’s presented in Gw2.

Oh no,
Another OP that woke up in December and realize changes made in September.
10/10 mad

WoW.

OP

Did you even bother to check such sites as http://gw2crafts.net ?
Did you even bother to check any of the fan sites and wiki to check how to efficiently use certain systems – for example craft system?

Story achievements are great and are optional.
You don’t like them?
Then don’t freaking do them.
No one force you to do them.

Regarding ascended gear scenario – stick to exotics and gtfo from it if you don’t like it.
That applies to everyone who have a problem with it.

(…)I still enjoy it,(…)

(…)I just want to vent some frustration right now, (…)

Don’t be a hypocrite, really.

As it may be your first experience with MMO games, I’ll suggest to stop sticking to Personalized Point of View regarding it.
Game provides variety of Optional features that gives you a choice:

• do it
• don’t do it

That’s something you barely will see in other MMO games – you don’t believe it? Go check it out then and experience it yourself.

You complain about things you mostly have no idea and no comparison ability but yet you even mention things where you do not even logically think straight.

For example, character customization.
You’re upset….oh sorry, you said it’s kittening you off, that you have to “pay” for character customization.
To your information.
Every game, even Pay to Play, charge it’s Playerbase for Character Customization, such as Look change, Hairstyle change, Name Change and Gender Change. And Transmutation Stones for gear appearance change are vastly obtainable within game – I don’t know if even someone purchase them in Gem Store.
Fun fact, which you may haven’t yet discovered is that you may use your Gold to exchange to Gems and Purchase such exclusive item from Gem Store.
Which means, you don’t spend even a cent from your IRL pocket.
I personally haven’t seen any other publisher to use such feature in their games – someone can feel free to name them, because I’m curious myself.

You have to remember that Developers are making a game and changes to the game that pleases thousands of other players, not your single Personalized Point of View and Needs.

P.S. – As someone may think I’m upset or anything – I’m not. Just felt to be a bit kitteny, since people seem to understand it better sometimes.

P.S. – Regarding being forced to spend money in Gem Store – Treat it as many do. People who purchase Gems feel that they’re thanking this way for further development of the game. Even if they have enough Gold in game for exchanging for Gems.
I for example do that.

Pandaman.4758:

This could be an argument for not trying GW2 if you have no prior MMO experience: it’s going to ruin your expectations of other MMOs.

Sure, GW2 is pretty grindy, but as far as MMO grinds go it’s on the lower end of the spectrum. If you come to dislike GW2 because of the grind, you’re not going to have a better time anywhere else.

Yep.
Lemme allow to introduce for OP couple of games that won’t ruin any expectations of other MMOs:

• World of Warcraft
• Aion The Tower of Eternity
• TERA
• ArcheAge
• Lineage ][

Hence, kitten , just play any MMO that’s korean or has korean MMO basis.

If someone does believe that Guild Wars 2 is even a bit grindy and is unhappy because of it then it’s your time to drop MMO games and stick to Single Player RPG games.

I’ll say it again – GW2 compared to other fancy, shiny super duper MMO games, has unnoticeable amount of grinding and rng.
As I still said, it has some kind of grinding amount, it still is nowhere near “bit” value.

Dodge roll on people.

Harper.4173:

Warriors have been severely nerfed in the last balance patch. Might want to look into that before you say how blessed they are.

How does adding faster decay out of combat become a severely nerfed?

Rangers are just fine.
l2p.

If OP dislikes game then should stop playing it.

If you don’t like it, then don’t play it.

Lindbur.2537:

Of course someone siding with Nemesis would think it’s a great video.

there is a fragment I luckily by random time press caught
it’s something like
- If completion of dungeon has to take around 30mins or an hour, it takes 5 mins or even less due to exploits people use. And what’s more, it appears that everyone are using it.

I agree with it, because it’s a rush for rewards like someone already has said before.
But then, it makes people being hypocrites, because they blame Anet for lack of content meanwhile, they simply skip 3/4 of the content just to get a reward.

I understand that there may be people who do content fully etc. But it’s unnoticeable minority.

Who cares?
Someone in some other thread has already stated how Balance looks like.

5 nerfs for thief
1 power up for other classes

And they still struggle vs thief.
Now look.
Omfg Thief dodge roll.
Sure, remove it and give it Protection Boon.
Soon they’ll complain about it too but whatever.

I bet 80% of those whiners did roll a thief to feel OP.
But reality did faceroll them with mud on every corner they went.
So they went back/made other class which is tanky.
And look now. They fail vs the same class that they did quit due to easy roflstomp.
So now they ask for some stupid nerfs, because oh hey, they cba to learn how to fight thief class, and even if they wanted to play it, they cba to learn to play it.

Anet really should stop carrying lazy scrubs who only keep whining and whining.

If I understand it correctly, OP means that he does use Shadowstep which work okay, but returning skill is Self-activating?

I have such problem with 3rd skill on Engi’s Pistol which auto activates whenever I target enemy.

If you grind for ascended items then I wonder what Legendary is for you.
I assure you that crafting ascended is a piece of cake – I have played for 1400 hours and I own 6 classes fully geared in ascended sets along with multiple ascended weapons for each of them.

Did I grind it?
Nope. I was casually doing what I wanted, starting from pve as dungeon runs and ending on pvp like Arena and WvW.

Also, Account bound ascended items are for longer than a year by now?
What’s your point of raging now?

Wow.
One Mount topic disappears from 1st page, then another pops up.
Desperate people…

No OP, it’s not worthy.

Okay. Remove Feline Grace.
Give 3 seconds Protection Boon upon dodge roll.

Peow peow.2189:

Backstab is actually very easily landed – i never even seen 1 thief miss it.

You would be surprised.
Experienced players, even a bit with thieves, know how to evade and make thief struggle to land it.
You dont’ see them miss it, because missing Backstab doesn’t remove stealth.
It is a burst skill, but compared to other classes, it’s weak in matter of requirements.

For example.
Warrior just need 3 bars of adrenaline – just fight a bit(gaining upon damaging opponent and receiving damage). Killshot 1500 range, Eviscerate 300 range Leap.

Thief need to go into stealth, then position himself on the back of the opponent.
Backstab 130 range.

I don’t call it to be something very difficult to do, but it’s not easy mode and require a bit of skill, experience and knowledge.

Peow peow.2189:

So other classes cure 1 condition every 9 second

yet thief can do it every 3 second

I can say that Thief is the squishiest class of all.
No access to Protection boon.
Not even average Health Pool.
Low Armor Value.

Condition Removal every 3 sec interval while in stealth.
Seems OP, but:

• CnD 6 initiative (4sec stealth – traited) require you to forget about backstab and cleanse 1 Condition – seems cool, but what if you’re kited, has cripple/immobilize and can’t hit anything? If you don’t hit = no stealth = no condition cure. Isn’t so OP.
• Shadow Refuge(4sec duration) – 16 sec stealth while traited – Visible Home, vulnerable to AoE skills, user can be kicked out of it and instantly lose stealth. In those 4 seconds of sitting like a duck at home, enemy may just give up and go elsewhere. You won’t chase them because you’ll lose stealth if Home won’t disappear, chasing them after? Catching up = losing initiative + your enemy may recover quite well, regarding HP and utility skills.

As it is most OP as some think about condition removal ability, it still has lot of flaws.

As reminder – when people see thief in SR and can’t kick them out of it, they simply give up on chasing thief or searching for him.
Ability to reset and escape from battle makes people really not into chasing and fighting thieves. And that’s understandable.

From other classes PoV it may seem that thieves are OP, but they really aren’t.
I accept their mobility, ability to reset and escape from fight and increased evasion rate, due to the fact that they really are punished for every mistake they do. Badly timed dodge, bad position in SR etc etc.
Any honest and experienced thief can tell you that simple mistake cost them being downed, meanwhile other classes have a room for couple of mistakes.

RNG?
You call this RNG?

Go play some korean MMO and say Anet’s game is RNG

Oooooh Backstab so OP.
Oh wait.
Doesn’t it have to hit target’s back first?
And don’t you have to be in stealth?
And it’s not like you can launch it from 300 range either, right?

#2OPnerfPls

@Coronit – Static Discharge on engi with ~50ms has a great burst.

Meh….
now it’s posting pro godlike #lookhebeateveryone videos.
Meanwhile didn’t read my post with understanding and getting the point.

So, time to recruit.

• 10 000+ AP
• Meta Build Only
• Full Ascended Berserker Gear, Jewelry
• Full set of Superior Rune of Strength
• Legendary Weapon(Berserker stats)
• All Offensive slots filled with Power Infusions
• Dungeon Master title
• Hobby Dungeon Explorer Achievement Completed
• Don’t be a baddie
• I must know you
• Link screenshot to your minimal DPS (if value is too low, we’ll reject you, and call you bad noob)

If you meet above requirements please leave your CV and maybe we’ll take you with us for a test run.

When guardian will chainsaw you down to 0, you’ll be as much surprised as now?
or when a warrior will 1 shot you with rifle?

thieve’s spammable weapon skill

Yeah, it is spammable. Bots spam it and hardly realize that it doesn’t work on players with 3 digit IQ.

Not being a kitten but, I never heard about OP and even more being a Celebrity.
Another thing – thieves are the squishiest with low HP pool class in game.
As from personal experience, I believe that vigor spam + s/d is annoying due to almost perma evasion.
That still doesn’t change the fact that you can kill such thieves.

It appears that OP meanwhile playing warrior, has to find another tactic against thieves, because it seems that plain and 24/7 used tactic that worked against every other class, doesn’t work.

To be honest – I play both warrior and thief – Warrior lately received only one noticeable nerf – Adrenaline decay, meanwhile thieves are nerfed constantly bit by bit.

Latest, 5 Might only, bunker #YOLO mode!
100% crit chance

Veydar.5017:

You’re using bad players as an example for why their build/setup is bad. Experienced dungeon guilds will complete all these encounters without anyone requiring ressurection. They will kill most bosses on the spawn and use active defenses to stay alive.

Yeah.
Organized Guild rushes.
But problem is with random people. They claim to be experienced and all, and turns out in the middle of some dungeon’s path, that they’re like first timers.
Honestly, I did many dungeon runs with people who were total first timers – ’cause I wanted 1st timers.
You know what was the best thing about it?
They asked what to do and what to expect.
Even if they were bunch of germans or frenchies. As long as one of them understood english, he could translate. And voila. Was slower than experienced group, but at least it was smooth.
Because they asked.

Enaretos.8079:

Tao.5096:

Enaretos.8079:

- I got into an AC run with two guardians a thief and a warrior as I was on elementalist.

TA Marona – 3 Guardians and 0 Reflect Shield.
Happened few more times with different groups.

You can’t reflect or block malrona anymore.

but could before.
As I’m not saying dodging it is something difficult, it was possible to reflect them and not allow her to shoot at party.

I meant more for – I’m not for thief to even spam boons. xD

About DB, yeah. But that’s what I meant.
D/D is supposed to be a power build.
As I understand giving a condition like bleed – okay, but skill itself with or w/o it, is simply bad. It’s not a case like with utility – I’ll pick something else that’s working and is good.

I wouldn’t really give boon spam to thieves.

Reason:

• ability to easily reset fight
• ability to escape from any fight
• great potential in condition removal
• great mobility
• great damage spike output

As many may disagree, I can say this:
Thief is actually one of few classes that isn’t boon dependent.
You don’t need swiftness in fights, because there are plenty of gap closers.
Might boosts damage spikes too much. Thieves in many cases can down any class while remaining above 90% – assassin type of class.
Fury is fine, since thief should crit a lot.

Skills:
Death blossom – d/d is a power spec, yet DB has it’s good use in condi build in Arena PvP. Caithe has a nice DB skill – why not rework it to be a bit similar?
Dagger Storm – it does hit, but you gotta move to enemy, kinda bad. The good point of that skill is that it reflects incoming projectiles and range skills.
Black Powder – well, it’s nerfed and seem to go to nerf category just like War’s Adrenaline. They shouldn’t drop skill’s power from 10 to 2.

Enaretos.8079:

orly ? Maybe said zerkers expected of you to know what you’re supposed to do and use the meta build to contribute.

What am I supposed to contribute except dps as warrior, give fury, might, precision and power to others? Should I also drop 10k heals with 1sec interval?
Because hi, I’m in zerk gear, I used my dodges and poof I got one shot because there was a red circle I didn’t move from.
or in Fotm on anomaly.
Because platforms disappear under my feet and I die.
u.u

Enaretos.8079:

Easy example :
- I made an alt account to pug incognito as I’m starting to get busted in pugs.

I see.

- I got into an AC run with two guardians a thief and a warrior as I was on elementalist.

TA Marona – 3 Guardians and 0 Reflect Shield.
Happened few more times with different groups.

- We get to SQ room. Thief knows his job and spawns her with a clever use of daggerstorm.

you can do that in Sentinel gear too. Has nothing to do with zerk gear.
I didn’t say that everyone in random LFG are clueless.
I appreciate tricks, knowledge and experience.

- I pop and Icebow in melee range, on spot, so we can deep freeze and kill quickly.

Ele isn’t a mandatory.

- I find it weird that I downed to burning and poison in just a few seconds.

Aggro issues ele has. Not everyone know it – especially people who play tanky classes.

- I realize guardians are ranging, one with my IB on auto an the other one with a staff.

I love this part where a Class that’s supposed to tank and eat everything while having access to various defending boons along with skills that protect teammates to actually dps like a Ranger with longbow.

- They complain about having to ress me. Insert random filthy zerker wiping the floor comment.
- I’m like guys please. Two guardians ranging, and no reflects ? Gawd, this was advertised as “zerk, experienced, meta builds”.
- One of them pings clerics : “I use this to ress zerkers”…
- I blamed them for my death, which was i deed their fault and left, baffled…

Should have go with people you know instead people you don’t know.
Right at this moment a group of funny ohmaigawds in knight, soldier, celestial, or w/e else gear is already 1 encounter ahead of you.

If you recognise yourself in this behaviour, please refrain from commenting

Did you just write this wall of text while thinking I’m some wannabe Guardian?

P.S : For the record I can solo AC on 4 classes, in zerker gear, in reasonable times. Don’t go “bad player” on me.

I can solo AC with one hand and in bikini.

On serious note.
I didn’t say that zerk meta is bad.
Your and that other guy reasoning for my posts seem too much hateful and you seem to not read with understanding while stopping after first 5 words and think " oh, it’s another meta hater who doesn’t know a thing or w/e".

Like I said before. I don’t care who wears what and what traits he has.
Knowing the mechanics and countering it’s special attacks is fine and enough for me.
Boss system doesn’t punish groups for lack of cooperation – there is nothing like Boss goes on rampage or w/e.
If I’ll spend 2 mins longer in one path, it won’t kill me.
I only stated my bad experience with zerkers and Metas, which made me only waste my time and nerves.
And that is only because, most of those people have ego on level over9000 and deny their own mistakes meanwhile flaming and raging on others. And it doesn’t help at all.
I want normal and successful runs, not filled with egoboosted prOs who act like a bellybutton of the world.

With amount of condition cleansing, you’re upset because of a silly sigil?

Caman~

Moa

/01293 chars

Artemis Thuras.8795:

Tao.5096:

Point was that a heavy amount of majority does that.
As I understand that Environment given by developer is supposed to be used to your advantage, it still doesn’t change the fact that every boss in every path in every dungeon is done the same way – stack, might, lure, dps, next one -> repeat.
And that should have been changed long time ago.

Typical view of someone who has either:

1) never been in a meta group
2) only been carried by others who are doing all the active mitigation for them.

You may see this post for greater detail:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Carried-Players/first#post4476334

orly?
So, I’m carried because I gotta res rest of the downed party.
Or in Fotm I have to kill Anomaly alone.

Dunno what your linked post has to do with me.
Unless you posted it, because you feel hurt over my statement which imply that changes to bosses should have been made just like to Spider Queen in AC.

I don’t care what people wear and what trait set they have.
But I cba to go with zerkers/meta again to either res them all downed, solo half of the instance or see how they rage and leave because they die and blame others for it.

Point was that a heavy amount of majority does that.
As I understand that Environment given by developer is supposed to be used to your advantage, it still doesn’t change the fact that every boss in every path in every dungeon is done the same way – stack, might, lure, dps, next one → repeat.
And that should have been changed long time ago.

On serious note.
Zerk Meta?

CoE Subject Alpha w/o stacking behind a boxes, walls, corners, etc.
GL.

Jana.6831:

Good idea, tell me how to play thief without burst and tell me how to kill a npc quickly enough so they won’t reset without bursts.

Edit: Maybe all of you should play some wvw to learn more about damage and survival =)

What does wvw have to do with pve?

Jana.6831:

I mean that btw: Maybe I’m really wrong in this thread because you can’t get where I’m coming from.

UAE?

True that it will move to other forums.
Doesn’t change the fact that devs will have to look at them and take them into account.
What’s more, moderators will lock them and archive/delete them.

Even if it’ll change the stupidity behind some nerfs which were a community tears wish, even by half, I find it as improvement.

Finally, lazy nabs won’t affect profession balancing decisions. Everything will be up to devs. No pressure. Adapt or gtfo!

Turret engineer + bomb kit 2 stronk.
Running in circles pressing random keys 2 stronk.
People die 2 fazt to engi.

Delete this class plox.

Oh no, proving your skill with a video.
Looks like I did end in another game with mindset of – only pros prove their skillz with vidz.

kitten.

Shouldn’t have shared your FB silly.

I personally don’t know what that crap Meta thing is.
Saw some website with called Meta builds – laughed and left.

Unless, Meta stuff is for newbies who need a hook to grab and catch the idea how to think regarding their own builds that suit their playstyle and taste, then my apologies.

Define cheap dueling build?
I’m using the same as for wvw because it’s more convenient.
With exception – I use longbow instead of greatsword

Devildoc.6721:

ozmaniandevil.6805:

I play a ranger (fairly recently) and the problem is, if you are not “allowed” to use skill 4 on LB, well, there’s damage you can’t do AT ALL because it’s a skill you take out and then you’re waiting for other stuff on CD. That’s like saying “well warriors your hundred blades is annoying so don’t use it. Just stand there and wait for skills WE LIKE are off cool down. Hey if you get killed in the meantime, we don’t really care as long as we’re happy”.

Kind of ridiculous no? You can ask ANet to change it, but then, 8 months into the trait system FIASCO and that hasn’t changed, so good luck.

Your 1 skill never gotes off cooldown and does more damage if you’re at long range.

Other skills being on cooldown is a REALLY bad excuse for facerolling.

On many weapons the autoattack/1 skill is actually the highest dps.

Don’t use skills just because they’re off cooldown, use skills intelligently.

The only instance that actually is being done w/o stacking is HotW?
So, no. Auto Attack skill is low in group pve mostly.

Guardian is too OP.

Nerf pls.

wink

I never used warhorn on warrior, and I don’t use shouts in pvp.
And I do not lose to celestial, d/d ele or w/e else all the time.

Certainly.
Engi and Ele are such OP classes that no other stand a chance.
Hence, feel successful if you drop one of them to 90% hp.
They just kill anyone in blink of an eye.

Anet, remove those classes. Dem 2 stronk.

Everyone who want Mounts
<- WoW is that way.

because they’re overrated and others can’t play other classes.

99% of the stuff in this game is account bound.
1% are soulbound and those are Exotic gear and lower tier gear items.
All customization, skins, shop items are account bound.

Another celestial d/d ele vs war.

P.S. – Warrior needs boon Regen.