And you (and others in this thread) can’t even see what is wrong with such a common boon disabling entire builds (since you’ve got to spec quite heavily to make those kits even decent).
Especially since those kits are balanced to be used versus multiple enemies…and that just increases the chances people will have retaliation up.It makes no sense, and yet people just choose to ignore it.
Oooh, yes. True Story.
Let’s summarize OP’s PoV and what does he want to do.
1. OP is blaming Retaliation for Engineer’s damage comeback due to mechanic of Grenade Kit and Flamethrower Kit.
How those Kits work is being explained in this thread by Tim for example.
2. OP request to change the way Retaliation work by enforcing a percentage portion(5% or 10%) of spiked damage to be returned to caster.
Power Build User:
2000 damage hit and 5% damage going to return back
2000 – 5% = 100
100 Damage is going to be returned
Condition Build User:
120 damage hit and 5% damage going to return back
120 – 5% = 6
6 Damage is going to be returned
Summary:
- Percentage damage scaling for Retaliation is crap
What does OP doesn’t want to consider?
- OP doesn’t want to consider rework of Grenade and Flamethrower Kits.
Because those Kits are extremely useful and work greatly as long as Retaliation isn’t involved. :v
What does OP keep comparing whole this kitten to?
To Greatsword Warrior and Staff Guardian.
OP doesn’t want to understand that those two weapons are slow, and Engineer or any Fast type weapon deal at least 2 times more attacks than those two.
Pluses of Fast Type weapons
- 2 times higher chance for sigil proc
- 2 times higher chance for crit proc
- higher mobility
- lower chance for enemy to evade attacks
Minuses of Fast Type Weapons - punished for mindless spam on Retaliation
What OP does fail in too?
OP claims that Boon removal is crap, and killing main source of Retaliation spam a.k.a Guardian isn’t a priority.
P.S. – I’m starting to like 2015 more and more.
Okay,
let’s summarize it.
CAUTION!
It is lethal to use Grenade Kit and Flamethrower Kit on enemies with Retaliation.
Please choose different utility skills.
ArenaNet hold no responsibility for your wipe due to Retaliation.
Caithe’s brother will end as a salad which Anise will eat.
Huehuehue~
So… don’t attack a zerg at all?
You’ve missed the point.
Oh yeah, give % of spike damage.
Inb4 why power users have to be punished and condition users to be boosted?
blablabla.
Nah it’s fine. L2P.
^this.
Ranger longbow is okay.
I did once used in EotM Rapid fire + Piercing Arrows on Retaliation group.
The moment my hp started going down, I simply dodge roll back to break channeling.
My mistake for not paying attention.
Therefore I was punished for it
Silver, you’re getting this way too much into your head.
Tim wrote quite a nice thing which I believe is a basic knowledge about weapon and skill sets.
Well, I gotta agree with naiasonod.
If majority of groups with engineers win, despite enemy team having perma retaliation, then why should it be nerfed/changed/adjusted to your specific group, because you wipe on it?
It proves that there is a countermeasure and either you don’t know what it is, or simply don’t want to use it.
Why are you comparing slow type close combat weapon attacks to GTAoE fast attacks?
[Suggestion]
- increase Retaliation damage from 400 to 600
I pop flamethrower and want to 30k burn anyone in a sec.
Oh wait, I’m downed….
Retaliation?!
NERF !@^%#%$
I’m in similar case as poster above.
I’m playing 2 games atm and I do only few things in gw2 to not later regret, that I dropped and when a Boom comes in, I suddenly need something I could have if I just did put a little bit of time on gw2.
But mesmers aren’t defenseless.
Moa – I’m not fan of elites such as Moa or Lich form, in my case they’re bit too strong cards in fights.
Daze, knockback, Aetherarmor, stealth(target break), stun etc.
They also are quite fast with their skills on greatsword, due to short animations.
They spam boons for themselves etc.
Obviously, mesmer with low armor and unprepared will be downed fast.
I’ve seen many power mesmers who can sustain a lot, spike you highly and even use stealth with clone spawn very well, that takes few precious seconds to retarget that mesmer.
Point is – Nos proved that build bring a lot for organized teams.
GTAoE Wells, almost 100% crit chance on Life Blast with huge spike.
Sustain weakness covered by teammates.
But in my opinion and from experience(since I meet people with such glassy builds) in solo queue they’re not much effective even for experienced players.
And that’s because it’s a gamble – you’ll get a bit more organized enemy team than your own, and you’ll end up 1v2/3 in most cases.
Well this is my current build, which for me is very effective in solo queue. Allows me a good amount of time to sustain enemies and keep good spike damage on enemies.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNAoYWjc0UbbLN20whbinhS6JIAaWoCSq/hcIUB-TpBFwACOBA12fYxhAIxRAAaZAAPAAA
I don’t use GTAoE trait for wells, because I often hug enemies and dps them with daggers, so I have no problem with Life Force upkeep.
Changing cele amulet for zerk one is personal choice. Both have their pluses and minuses.
I lose some dps cause am not glassy build, but, that’s only because I rarely gain any support from teammates and I Skirmish a lot.
So pretty much, I have to care to cover for my weakness alone – and stun/kd fest is quite a hype lately.
I suppose it’s just my personal style but anyone that is struggling staying alive with that metabattle build should try this.
Struggling depends on situation.
And there is no build that will sustain every situation.
That meta build which was made by Nos is working well in pre teamplay and still enforce you mostly to sit tight in Death Shroud in every encounter.
I am playing on EU and I did try a great variety of builds – other people builds, metas etc. And in fact, those glass cannon ones don’t work anymore, except for thief and mesmer, who both stealth themselves frequently.
Problem about glassy builds on EU is that, people learn quickly. They’ll die in first fight, and then they’ll use weaknesses of your build.
DS is a great damage spike but….classes that have nice mobility like Warrior, Guardian, Thief, Mesmer etc, will keep hugging your back.
People also know how to be careful against warhorn skill – one of the reasons why I’m not using it.
Hence, that meta build is bad for newbie necromancers and shouldn’t be recommended for people who are starting to play them.
Okay, I saw bits of that stream.
Clearly it’s a build that’s effective in pre teams.
Who’s Nos?
/Message Body length must at least be 15.
They didn’t make such video to announce LS2.
I’m 93% sure it’s Expansion Pack
that meta thingie is extremely squishy and doesn’t contribute much to damage it does deal….
Don’t we already have Smite game here?
Turret Engineer?
Minionmancer?
:D
Anet expect $91 000 000 income in Q3 2015.
Meanwhile Q1 and Q2 is barely over $20 000 000.
I doubt it’s anything else except expansion that would bring such income in just Q3.
-1
/Message Body length must at least be 15.
GvG (Guild VS Guild) map then? It existed in the original GW.
Its explained on the wiki.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_versus_Guild
And yes, people have been wanting this for a LONG time in GW2.
There was a GvG looking map that was data mined by the community just before season 2 kicked off, so lets hope.
What does stop people to choose one of the PvP servers and 10vs10 TDM in Courtyard?
I’m happy to read that OP knows what majority cares about.
Marjory’s Dagger not OP.
Use Superior Rune of Traveler.
Problem solved.
I dunno what you guys are about but, it’s a mere fact that I am the most:
- fabulous
- awesome
- amazing
- intelligent
- handsome
- anything positive +1 more
that anyone else in the world.
dual shield before dual focus and scepter?
impossibiru.
@OP
I recommend first to read “Developing New Perspectives On Race” by Pat A. Bidol.
Then start writing posts about your displeasure.
Its funny as for over two years I would actually have recommended GW2 because I found it to be a game you could have fun playing how you wanted, this is no longer the case for me and it makes me sad.
It’s funny how much you cry over something that you choose yourself to do.
Given that TERA’s most recent class addition was called The Reaper, I doubt it’d be called that in GW2.
Other than that, nice idea
They have added now Engineer class in Tera which works pretty much the same as GW2 one, with only one big difference – it’s heavily technologically advanced and flashy.
A Bard class which shoots with rainbows, pink unicorns and blue dolphins would be nice.
Anomaly
/15chars
I dunno what you’re on about, but either hammer neither mace are OP.
OP made my day.
tyvm
Duel option?
Beware humans!
The time where we can finally call you noobs, because you lost in a duel is going to start!
Oh, and try to decline duel request, noobs!
L2p bads!
>:|
Warrior’s most newbie friendly.
Later on, any class that’s a bit experienced, treat warriors like doll rags.
And it appears that Warrior in the end isn’t such a great profession as it appeared at beginning.
Weren’t those all turned into stones except Odgen, in order to actiavte Great Dwarf or something to defeat Great Destroyer(Primordous Champion)?
Top of my list: Dreamer. I <3 that bow! (And The Lover isn’t bad, either.
)
Sorry Gaile, I had to!
xD
I’m looking forward to Forum Specialists taking part in topics regarding profession balances in pvp/wvw and their neutral optimistic not personal responses regarding it.
Let’s make underwater fights just like in Honor of the Waves Dungeon.
10/10 everyone will love it and praise Anet for it.
gl.
Actually it isn’t. And if you read the whole OP you’de see that I wrote “reoccurring issues” instead of “bored” or “lack of new content”. People complain about far more than lack of new content although lack of new content is a major one.
Forum users are a minority of overall active playerbase.
I see it not fair for minority to decide what’s good for majority – and enforcing someone to participate on forums is also a no go – there is always a survey system which can be created for such purposes to gather feedback from majority of playerbase.
As I said “it is as simple as that” – I won’t deny that phrase you did quote is a harsh one.
And what recurring issues you speak about?
Mounts? Houses? More Dungeons?
Despite the fact that most of the issues that have been mentioned have been answered already by Staff and countlessly repeated by forum users.
Majority of those recurring issues, are simply repeated by the same people who do not understand the answer they were given – and I understand completely lack of any Staff reply there – repeating yourself over and over again is bothersome.
Playerbase is divided between people who like and dislike certain changes.
Best example is new daily system and removal of monthly one.
In most cases I can read even silly threats that if Anet shall not abide by their wishes, they’ll leave.
When you summarize it, it’s not a surprise that people say “Don’t like it? GTFO then”.
It’s visible that polite way to ask for changes, making suggestions etc has dropped.
Despite the fact that title and beginning of OP start politely, it sooner or later simply turns into that OP is demanding stuff.
That New Content issue is mainly only because people skip 80% of Content anyway.
There aren’t that many who take their time and do whole content w/o rush.
Tera is a really good MMO with an in-depth story, TESO has F2P rumours all around because they removed a lot of subscription options and WoW is the only game that can successfully get away with it.
Majority of F2P and B2P games charge for skins and vanity items. That’s completely fine. However how is it fine to charge for the lore of the game when the person has already given you 80£ for their game to begin with?
TERA has a really nice Lore and despite being Korean grinder – Leveling is grindy – then for a first timer, when you read all quests then it’s a really funny and nice game.
Also it’s quite a challenging game both in PvE and PvP. And skill system is even bit better than Gw2, except damage modifiers.
TSW is B2P and charges for Issue content – missions that are related to Lore. You can always repeat them countless times.
PvE wise, TSW is a very interesting game and unique of it’s kind, Also it’s not easy.
WoW is WoW. P2P model + content purchases since Day1. Proved that people will pay and pay more if they have to. All you need is a good advertisement and game.
Most games, good games, lack proper advertisement.
Gw2 lack advertises.
TERA lack advertises.
TSW lack advertises.
etc etc etc
I know about WoW only because of advertises and people talking about it.
And that’s the key to get customers – advertises and game.
I don’t see the point of that thread.
From what I see, is that some people after 3 months get bored and dont’ see any new content to participate in.
Like really?
Most of those people are simply farming like mad to catch up to end game players, while after they realize there is nothing to farm and all you need is to chill out and find yourself a spot to have fun in.
People burn out of this game, just like from many other games.
So it isn’t as simple as, “Don’t like it? Gtfo.” And I know some of you are thinking, “Well you’ve already got your money’s worth…” but then that isn’t for you to decide. It is their money.
Yes it is simple as that.
You paid for it, you had fun for the time you played.
You got bored and want to quit – go ahead, no one stops you.
If you quit, you can always come back.
It’s a normal rotation of players in MMOs nowadays – not many can stick to one game for long.
Unless, some people look for sentimental shoulder to cry on.
Are we totally forgetting about the first screenshot “keyboardwarrior”, (aptly named btw.) being posted from Edge of the Mists? Or are we not going there?
Haven’t seen it.
Be so kind and share x3
There was a game, where they put all cheaters on one separate server.
I would do the same.
They wouldn’t queue and join instances with normal server players.Why reward cheaters by letting them continue playing? And even reward them with their own special server?
Because they still would bring money to Anet and would play separately from normal players without affecting their gameplay. =3=
There was a game, where they put all cheaters on one separate server.
I would do the same.
They wouldn’t queue and join instances with normal server players.
Leave it as it is.
Or fix it and give Elementalists +250 Healing Power.
Shame to be killed by the most useless skill in Warrior’s weapon skill set.
and i finally understand why gw2 will never be e sport -it is too complicated , the camera view is to small ,in big team fights u see nothing , there are minions ,turrets ,pets, clones……..
I see.
So, in SC2 matches, where tens of units clash with each other, spawning loads of effects, all you see is HP bars of those units decreasing rapidly.
Same with LoL and other MOBA/RTS games.
So we compare couple of turrets, 2 pets and 3 clones to be something above it?
lol’d
in gw2 player with less than 5k games can get killed and he has no idea how he died and what killed him XD that is kinda weird in this game XD it is like elite game
That’s in every single game.
Funniest is CS where people get headshots only.
Most boring eSport I’ve ever seen.
to become esport u need miracle or tons of casual players that can watch top players at stream and understand what they are doing , and they can easly learn from better players couse they can compare with them ….
How many official Global Tournaments GW2 had?
As I don’t care about eSport hype, I still wouldn’t grade Gw2 after few tourneys.
in gw2 there is so much knowledge that u dont have enough time to explain everything ,the animations and colors skould be changed too , couse tournaments are imposible to watch .
I’m surprised how you can watch MOBA and RTS tournaments where even hundreds of units clash and all you see are HP bars go down.
So much for animations and colors.
i heard that someone told them before release that this game will never become esport XD so they probably knew and all of those 2 years is just promises,promises and go on untill players will get that it is esport mirage XD
I personally don’t care if Gw2 will be World Ranked eSport game.
I’ll support Anet for making even closed Tournaments.
i stoped playing gw2
That’s great.