Guild Wars 2

sMihaly.1492:

You should know that popping all venoms at the same time isn’t quite effective, since only 1 lifesteal will activate/hit from the trait. Since all venoms are instant except the heal&elite it’s easy to activate one by one while in combat.

I used to play this thief build in spvp like a year ago, with soldier amulet + pistolwhip, winning most of the 1v1 fights, even though it is a support build :P (immobilize+pistolwhip twice + popping other venoms in the meanwhile is enough for most enemies to get downed, berserker amulet is just a risk, as not much place left for invisibilities)

I like they way all minions / illusions / pets get the very same effects, thus boosting the burst damage insanely.

Its not as effective, but the reason you pop them all at once is mainly for condition coverage….

You can pop them a bit slower and get the main effect of lifeleech, but your conditions don’t screw people over as much.

But yea…the second you add another person…Venomaura becomes just stupid…

blitzkrieg.2451:

Ranger might generation isn’t great, but it’s not impossible either. I’d run something like geomancy/battle and strength runes and mighty swap of course.

00644 w/ bird pets. Giving constant might to your birds for some higher damage hits (although might doesn’t scale too well with bird crits it still makes a difference). I personally like to not load dmg into my pets via traits and try to get as much condi application as I can.

axe/dagger – geomancy/battle
sword/torch – doom/battle

Synergizes well , constant poison uptime and with offhand training you’ll have a good deal of evasion as well and you’re stacking roughly 14 might I think consistently to yourself with 20% boon duration on top of the strength runes and mighty swap although I haven’t tested it yet. 15 second pet swap also helps in keeping the might generation up via mighty swap.

Might be worth checking out and test , ultimately though I think maybe a hybrid bm build with rabid and carrion mix or something with +40% condi food/33% lifesteal on crit with blood sigil will be a solid choice too. Maybe something like 03614 or 04604 OR 24602 with keen edge but then you’d moving more off the BM aspect. Traps obviously would work too I think, one thing I don’t like about traps is you generally run with 1 stun break. I like having atleast 2 if I’m roaming or dueling (lightning reflexes/condi signet) so I’m not sure. You may be able to do trap/spirit hybrid too for insane burn uptime (04640) but with that you’re losing out on might generation via mighty swap.

The new food definitely opens up options for sure!

Yea, I think Condition Build would work better, but I just wanted to see if I could do something with Power on it. Fluff is right though, I don’t see the build killing anyone “good”. It’ll kill the fodder players, you know the ones who do to virtually everything, and you’d be able to just escape most fights while searching for fodder players….But ya, you won’t kill any good solo player with low poison up time I think.

Birds would possibly do ok with the Power Build, but yea..no poison so i’m not certain.

I do like the lifesteal idea on traps….That’d be very interesting I think.

Only problem with food is you have to make it yourself..Which is why i’d never personally run it if I did play still.

Yea..Venomshare is incredibly powerful in a group, surprised its not picked up more

Fluffball.8307:

Addressing a couple points.

Spamming guard has a low downside and a big upside. SotF triggering only on your “oh kitten” button is a giant, unforgivable waste. Any use of “Guard!” what-so-ever would be better, even if it was just for the swiftness of moving your neighbors around.

You won’t kill anything ever, at all not even once, never with that build. No deaths will ever happen. Nope.

Well, I’m getting some Condition Removal with Sotf, so its not a huge waste, and i’m giving the pet some Fury as well (though less so on my part, though you could use it with Horn 4) and i’m going up that line anyway….You could slot in Guard though and do the usual type of shout build (through dropping of Signet of Hunt, you’ll get speed from Shout then) I generally just dislike Guard in general because its annoying to do.

Killing, like I said..I’m not sure of the killing potential, I’ve ran Cleric Builds in the past, generally before I took the Hybrid type idea on Technobabble Build, I could kill some people..but it was a slow process, This I think would have slightly better damage potential then that old spec simply because the Might Stacking…My biggest problem with it is the lack of Poison Application. Got like two sources, and they’re not reliable.

I also don’t know how amazing Might would be stacked very high, as I’ve never done it on a Ranger at all really.

I disagree with your assertion that it won’t kill people though..I think it’d kill plenty of people, Problem is..Most of the people you’d kill would die to just about any build they ran across.

Fluffball.8307:

Terravos.4059:

Fairly trolly build I think,

100% troll build that is completely useless, however I could see that being used in a guild party. Perhaps take a longbow and bear (black for any use out of it, and for FSM’s sake why do you have SotF with only 1 survival skill??) You could bait people in to attacking you while your party of berserker thieves and mesmers destroys everyone.

Not a new idea, but what else are you gonna do with that food on a ranger. It’s made for other classes I think. Oh please, give me more regen and swiftness uptime.

Why Sotf with only 1 survival skill with that setup? Because its the best option in terms of choices. The other option is Shout build, but then you’re forced into spamming Guard over and over again.

My only problem would be I don’t think it’d be able to kill most things…But then again I’ve not stacked might like other classes have, So that does have potential I guess.

By the way, I like the idea of the Trapper food using the Lifesteal+Condition Duration, that could be interesting.

http://dulfy.net/2014/07/04/gw2-new-chef-recipes-in-dry-top/

Loaf of Candy Cactus Cornbread

Duration: 30m
+70 Toughness,
+20% Boon Duration
+10% Experience from kills

So I was looking at this, and I thought….You could do something with this food..

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBhYDbkRlCWrYxlFuWDkIUtPhN4DYFAuX3VIqvYlRiA-ThCEABJcQAIS5HDXAATVCmy+D1o+jAm/k4JA4huDAOQAkCoHlRA-e

Fairly trolly build I think, you’d have 50% boon duration, decent amount of might stacking as well.

Could probably swap something here and there.

Prysin.8542:

Xorsus was stuck in the old bm meta and refused to play anything else to any notable degree. He was rude, arrogant and had more then a few snide remarks in his posts.
Chopps is studying, he got permabanned from these forums a long time ago. NA player, resides on desolation server in EU.

There is only 4 people id consider to be worth listening to;
JCbroe
Durzzla
Eurantien
AEFA

These guys know’s what they are doing, are skilled, honest and innovative in their own right. A few heavily edited frag movies on YT shows nothing more then that; a player beating a horde of bads. Just look at all the Pr0 1-shot teef videos. or the uber leet solo lupi warriors.
Proof of skill is what you do ingame, not in a video with god knows how many cuts and edits. Even i can solo lupi, gonna take me 40+ attempts to get it perfect, but i could make 40 recordings post the one where i made it and “pretend to be a god”. Instead i play the game for real, i win some i lose some, but i never try to appear as if one lucky shot is how my usual gameplay is.
If you blatantly believe all the pr0 videos on YT you are just too gullable a person.

Most of you will and probably do hate my guts, good for you, keep hating, i’ll still be right. Doesn’t matter if i tell you to L2P in a nice way or right to your face, if it is an L2P issue, it is an L2P issue. No ore no less.

I don’t consider Technobabble Build to be in the BM Meta.

But you’re right about me being stuck in the “BM Meta”, because for solo it was the best build we had/have for that.

conditions in Zergs are not overpowered…I’m amazed you even think that.

Pretty much the second you hit any zerg stack with a condition, its going to be cured, hence why every bloody zerg runs power builds..not condition builds.

As for condition damage being overpowered…. Condition damage isn’t, hell Condition Duration isn’t either…I’ve explained this a 100 times through countless threads.

The thing that makes Conditions strong is Condition Coverage, as in putting multiple conditions on a target.

You tell me you can stack 25 bleeds and nothing else on me? I’ll laugh as that’s not scary, you tell me you can stack 5 bleeds along with 5 other non damage conditions, you’re far more scary.

Regnum.7102:

Hey there!

I’ve been looking for an updated guide on BM build but I haven’t been able to see anyone (I even looked for Xsorus’s builds, but they’re also too old.). I’d like to be kinda tanky, focusing on boons and my pets I guess; I’m a “little bit” noobie with the ranger :P

Thanks.

EDIT: Shet, forgot to say what I wanted it for xD Mainly roaming by myself or with a small group in WvW :P

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQRAnf8YnAVkYZlFWBxaZgYVAQtHTy8Y69I9rv9lMqmA-j0BBoODimkO0kHBKTqIasFTFRjVPjIqWvETKgFlGB-w

This is my upgraded version, it still works.

Jekkt.6045:

If im not mistaken the 55hpm ranger ran something similar to this build in the tol finals. Sadly i heard he didnt play ranger in the latest esl anymore.

2 days ago i fought a strange build in soloq. Idk about the traits and the amulet. Either soldier clerics or knights. S/d with greatsword and pirate runes. The ranger was more of a bunker while the pet and the parrot dealt damage. And that kitten parrot dealt 10k damage in a short fight. Could be kind of a power bm 2.0.
Not sure if viable though, at least not in teamfights.

He ran my original BM Bunker if I remember correctly (atleast I think it was him)

Which was the old 0/0/30/10/30 build

That worked great right up until they gutted the pets damage.

Part of the reason I switched over to Spiders.

edit

Was close to the old BM Bunker Build

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRAnY8YjMq0ya/KWsQ0aAMhq9A0pBw7RNVrZXbQBPqA-TJhHwAPLDI4kAge/BAPBAA

Basically he swapped out Nature’s Protection for making his Elite Better

However I still believe

10/0/30/0/30 with Spiders is far far better then the old build now.

faeral.7120:

power builds were viable prior to the pet nerf, but not based on the strength of our power attacks. it was simply that power traits synergized best with getting the most out of insanely good pet damage ( with a 5,000 leash range ). our power coefficients have always been awful because the pet is considered part of our power damage.

i have been running BM Double Spider for the past two weeks or so. it performs very well. please note that Spider DPS has never been nerfed. comparatively to melee pets, you will get much more damage out of spiders because they also cannot be kited nearly as easily.

the new BM mastery is also strong ( much better than the pet regen mastery ). combined with sigil of renewal you can actually support team with spot offheals in addition to Spring ( 2k from BM mastery, 750 from weapon swap ).

i also use Rampage instead of Spirit. good players are well versed in Spirit counterplay at this point & Rampage counters a lot of problematic builds. Increases potential for actively teamfighting instead of the passive spirit style where just being there is your biggest contribution ( Spirit is still stronger teamfight overall, just saying that Rampage can allow you to contribute to plays when not fighting on the sides ). Pseudo res/stomp utility.

this build in general ruins warriors, which are very common atm ( huge stability & permanent poison / weakness uptime ( easy to reapply both of these consistently through cleanses ) ). a decap engi will also have a sad day when you Rampage and just sit inside his bubbles applying full suite of condis. i also use Travelers to chase if they try to kite the Rampage duration. thieves are not a concern at all. much toughness, poison, burning, healing. should not ever require Rampage for thief duel so steals aren’t a big concern. bonfire zones them out extremely well.

not to mention ( it’s like the best thing about this build ) that the immob stacking is just plain cruel sometimes. chaining a cave spider’s passive immob to black widow passive to black widow active with malicious training means that sometimes a player will literally eat a FULL bonfire if they have burned cleanses too quickly.

this spec plays peeler quite well to boot. spider is constantly crippling, immobing & weakening targets that are on your squishies. this isn’t taking into account axe chill / weak, dagger cripple, sword auto. combine with previously mentioned spot heals & condi cleansing from HS & Sig o’ Renewal.

BM, at least, feels in a pretty good spot right now.

here is the build i’m running: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQRAsY3fjMqUxa/Kusw1aAAhaVA0eGa2Y490etldJbKK-TJhHABPVGw2TCAa7PAwTAAA

I’ve been telling Rangers for months that I updated BM Bunker a while back and no longer use Cats and Dogs and such but instead switched to spiders after the Damage Nerfs.

Jekkt.6045:

What would be the purpose of this? Sb/s d has already a good poison uptime and the spider poison is weaker than yours. If you want it for the immob you could also take the drakehound which brings one knockdown too. If you want weakness use axe 3.

4 Second Immobilize every 20 Seconds, Constant Poison/Weakness/Vulner Uptime (Condition Coverage, which is what actually lets you kill players.) Decent Damage, and Constant Cripple if you’re specced into 20 BM (For more Condition Coverage)

Seriously, Go swap on Malicious Training, and Intimidation Training Right now, and run Forest and Cave Spider right now.

Come back and tell me how it went for ya.

I’m still amazed i don’t see anyone running Spiders with Malicious Training in SPvP

Narkodx.1472:

Well played… but in the end ranger is meh to me. Best ranger build is simply attrition/outlasting the opponents. In the end ranger is not best for duels. You wont beat a well played meta build from any other class. Why is condi ranger literally the slowest condi applier out of all condi builds besdies guard.

Rofl….

To funny

yes..

Makes Spider Immobilize 4 seconds

Fluffball.8307:

Chokolata.1870:

I think its time to bring back the old beastmaster spec.

Niah was like a weird hybrid BM. He played really well he just didn’t have much team support.

He was actually running the older BM Bunker build (only swapping out the BM Traits in the line for the Group utility ones)

Which worked great….when our primary DPS pets did a ton of damage, like Birds/Cats and Drakes…now they do alright damage..which isn’t bad.. but that version of the build lost its umph back then.

Its why I updated the build and changed the pets to be more of a Support CC/Condition apply setup.

If you’re playing the old BM Bunker build

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQRAnf8YnAVkYZlFWBxaZgYVAQtHTy8Y69I9rv9lMqmA-j0BBoODimkO0kHBKTqIasFTFRjVPjIqWvETKgFlGB-w

Switch to something closer to this…Having those Spider Pets is extremely valuable…They’re like Mobile Engineer Net Turrets with Damage and the ability to constantly cripple.

Niah was running Wolf and Snow owl one match i saw… I personally think he would of done far better running those two traits and Spiders.

Most of the time his Owl was taking forever to actually land a hit.

Hmmm…. I see spvp rangers still don’t run malicious training with intimidation training yet with BM Bunker

If you’re BM bunker, and haven’t switched to Malicious Training with Spiders and Intimidation Training, you’re doing it wrong

Very few classes that stand up to it… the only one of note is a Necromancer only because he throw all your nasty conditions back at you, everyone else can’t keep up with it.

awge.3852:

This would have been fun before they fixed the bug that pets could run up walls in wvw. I remember running a build just for my pet, send it up the wall and kill people there who were unaware of what was happening.

It was

Lévis.5489:

Axe/Dagger + Sword/torch is actually better than sword/dagger. Don’t throw all your evades in the same basket.

Not really true.

That’s a play style choice right there.

mistsim.2748:

but whats the point of running dual spiders? they dont give ON DEMAND poison.

Condition Coverage, Anyway all spiders have the Poison Field (which isn’t super great) but more importantly a 4 second immobilize with Malicous Training, and one of the Spiders has access to an incredibly long duration poison whenever it hits for its F2, The other you generally use has Weakness/Vulnerability one, but what makes it incredibly good is the fact you pick up intimidation training, making it so they’re applying a Cripple that’s bloody insane as well, the poison spider for example will do close to 30 seconds of poison alone, along with 20 seconds of cripple

kiwituatara.6053:

Xsorus gonna make another ranger video?

Probably not….I’m playing ESO, and don’t see myself playing this game other then to check out the patches every now and again.

ItIsFinished.9462:

I was one of the first Rangers to theorycraft a Celestial build for 1vs1 and Zerg play. At first people were critical of it. Then, a couple months later you started seeing builds pop up….many builds. This will be one of those traits people will use, and like it. They’ll find ways to implement and utilize the high poison uptime, while not being pigeon holed into one weapon set. Even you, Xsorus, will one day post a build with this trait implemented, and I will bump this thread reminding you of your criticism.

You’re going to be waiting a very long time, unless Anet magically changes how the Condition system of this game works..I’ll never choose a extra bleed tic and something i already have a lot of over removing 3 conditions every 10 seconds passively.

ItIsFinished.9462:

Ranger #1 says, “Ouch, I’ve just been inflicted with Immobilize, Chill, Weakness, Fear, 15 Stacks of Bleeding, 5 stacks of Torment and 4 stacks of Confusion. My Empathic Bond will save me!”

Ranger #2 sits and watches as only 3 conditions are removed after 9 seconds pass.

Ranger #1 says, “Help me Ranger #2!”

Ranger #2 Pop’s SoR, removes the remaining four conditions off of Ranger #1 + the 3 additional conditions that were added during that long 9 second RNG Empathic Bond to kick in.

Later after that match, Ranger #1 secretly tries out a different spec, dropping EB and picking SoR -he never looks back.

The End.

So what part of you need all the condition removal you can get doesn’t click with you?

Ranger 1 would most likely be running EB with SoR if he had half a brain…Ranger 2 sounds like a genius right up until he uses in SoR, and is instantly hit with a boatload of conditions again, and realizes that using SoR to remove Condition Burst is useful, but relying solely on SoR for your condition removal is downright moronic.

Durzlla.6295:

Terravos.4059:

At no point ever, is SoR/SoTF/Healing Spring/EB/Sigils remotely enough Condition Removal in this game.

The number one rule of Condition Removal in this game is simply, you can’t have enough condition removal.

Deciding that you’re going to drop our best form of condition removal for the equiv of 1 extra bleed stack and a 10 second poison every 20 seconds is just silly..just flat out silly

It’s hardly our best form of condi removal when it completely kittens over a lot more builds than it helps, how about you stop living in denial and realize there’s more than one way to skin a cat? Just because YOU don’t avoid conditions and YOU like gutting your pet to stay up doesn’t mean everyone does.

If you can’t beat a condi build while using an active condi removal instead of one that does the work for you that’s YOUR problem, not ours, not Anets. And more importantly if YOU can’t see the strength of poison master that doesn’t mean it’s bad.

As I said earlier, if you can’t see why the trait is good you’ll never understand a good trait when you see it. Me and itsfinished have provided countless examples of why its a good trait and EB isn’t needed and all you can come up with is, “but conditions!!”

I’m done stating the same points over and over for someone who clearly isn’t grasping them, if you come up with a real argument as to why EB is magically needed more than other condi removals fine, otherwise I’m done replying to you, all you’re doing is making yourself look ignorant which is quite sad.

You’re clearly not understanding

I’m not saying EB is magically needed more then other conditional removals..I’m stating that you need ALL the bloody condition removals you can get. If you want to continue pvping the hard way, I’m not going to stop ya… Some people prefer Bearbow rangers as well..Doesn’t make it actually any good

OGDeadHead.8326:

Durzlla.6295:

rabidsmiles.5926:

So it’s not a tiny, little pitiful heal then. Think it’s worth investing the 30 points into BM and not picking up Zephyr’s Speed or Natural Healing? Having another heal every 20sec or so sounds really tempting

Natural Healing will heal for more on you and your pet (just FYI) so if all you want is survivability for you and your pet keep that, however Invigorating Bond is ALSO AoE, so it has a lot more group utility (healing wise) than the other two.

Natural Healing will heal YOU for less than Invigorating Bond.

With 300 healing power (lowest possible to get these traits):

Natural Healing:
2500 health/20 seconds for the pet, 880 health/20 seconds for the player
(125 health/sec for the pet, ~44 health/sec for the player)

Invigorating Bond:
1632 health/20 seconds for you, your pet and allies within reach. This is of course dependant on whether your pets F2 is available and used every 20 seconds.

With my current gear I have 986 healing power, which gives Invigorating Bond a value of 1975 health/20 seconds.

I like the combo of Invigorating Bond and Fern Hound, 2975 aoe heal + regen is pretty nice.

You’re right…I’m bad with math don’t know why I was thinking it was 20hp/s

ItIsFinished.9462:

Terravos.4059:

ItIsFinished.9462:

Terravos.4059:

ItIsFinished.9462:

Terravos.4059:

Sword/Dagger is 21 seconds of Poison Alone

At no point should you ever run Poison Master over EB….EB itself is one of our best Condition Removal abilities, and it isn’t good enough against most Condition Builds.. dropping it for the equiv of 1 bleed stack and something you should be applying most of the time anyway with ease is just silly.

So you drop 21 seconds of Poison on them then they use a condi cleanse. That 21 seconds becomes…nothing.

That’d be a problem.. if Sword/Dagger wasn’t on insanely low cooldowns in the first place

Also I swap my pet every 16 seconds….Chances of killing my pet in those 16 seconds with conditions very slim

The whole point is you would be able to take other weapon sets besides the traditional sets while still being able to apply poison regularly. Which has opened up a lot of build choices for me.

oh, So you’re going to take Greatsword/Longbow then and sport Poison master.. since those are the only two weapons that don’t have it..

Axe MH and OH, Torch, Warhorn…

Chances are if you’re running Axe MH, You’re going to be running Sword Mainhand as your other weapon, and most likely you’ll be taking dagger on one of those weapons.

Unless you’re some weird Trapper build, in which case..you have Poison Trap..and if you remove EB, you have no Condition Removal of note at all.

At no point ever, is SoR/SoTF/Healing Spring/EB/Sigils remotely enough Condition Removal in this game.

The number one rule of Condition Removal in this game is simply, you can’t have enough condition removal.

Deciding that you’re going to drop our best form of condition removal for the equiv of 1 extra bleed stack and a 10 second poison every 20 seconds is just silly..just flat out silly

Durzlla.6295:

Carpboy.7145:

ItIsFinished.9462:

Carpboy.7145:

More dmg is a bad thing if you have to sacrifice a lot of survivability….

Sacrificing a lot of survivability by not taking EB? Lol…

Or bark skin, yes. You’re essentially trading either of those for 125 damage per second. Since you can already easily get 100% poison uptime

Just curious…. But how do you plan on having 100% poison uptime? You’re using Sword/dagger, sweet, so are you only using that ONE weapon set? No? Then your poison will be dropping off. Are you playing against enemies with condi removal? That poison will be dropping off.

And it’s hardly a “huge survivability trade” as you keep seeming to think, itsfinished is CLEARLY using a pet oriented build (how else would birds hit for 4k?) *this means him taking EB is not only a DPS decrease due to chill, cripple and weakness being transferred to the pet, but its ALSO clearing his pets might stacks when he’s forced to swap due to the pet being dissolved by conditions. *

Also, poison mastery increases the damage by a pretty significant margin, it makes the poison you apply from serpent strike + stalkers strike (assuming no other condi duration is boosting it) by 2k damage, that’s nothing to scoff at, especially since poison master makes it no matter how much they beg, or cleanse, or plead they will NEVER be free from your poison.

And if you don’t see how strong that is I have no more to say to you, because you’ll never understand a good trait when you see it.

hey you know what is also a DPS decrease? Being Dead because you lack condition removal

ItIsFinished.9462:

Terravos.4059:

ItIsFinished.9462:

Terravos.4059:

Sword/Dagger is 21 seconds of Poison Alone

At no point should you ever run Poison Master over EB….EB itself is one of our best Condition Removal abilities, and it isn’t good enough against most Condition Builds.. dropping it for the equiv of 1 bleed stack and something you should be applying most of the time anyway with ease is just silly.

So you drop 21 seconds of Poison on them then they use a condi cleanse. That 21 seconds becomes…nothing.

That’d be a problem.. if Sword/Dagger wasn’t on insanely low cooldowns in the first place

Also I swap my pet every 16 seconds….Chances of killing my pet in those 16 seconds with conditions very slim

The whole point is you would be able to take other weapon sets besides the traditional sets while still being able to apply poison regularly. Which has opened up a lot of build choices for me.

oh, So you’re going to take Greatsword/Longbow then and sport Poison master.. since those are the only two weapons that don’t have it..

you’d be better off running The Poison Sigils and keeping EB.

ItIsFinished.9462:

Terravos.4059:

Sword/Dagger is 21 seconds of Poison Alone

At no point should you ever run Poison Master over EB….EB itself is one of our best Condition Removal abilities, and it isn’t good enough against most Condition Builds.. dropping it for the equiv of 1 bleed stack and something you should be applying most of the time anyway with ease is just silly.

So you drop 21 seconds of Poison on them then they use a condi cleanse. That 21 seconds becomes…nothing.

That’d be a problem.. if Sword/Dagger wasn’t on insanely low cooldowns in the first place

Also I swap my pet every 16 seconds….Chances of killing my pet in those 16 seconds with conditions very slim

Sword/Dagger is 21 seconds of Poison Alone

At no point should you ever run Poison Master over EB….EB itself is one of our best Condition Removal abilities, and it isn’t good enough against most Condition Builds.. dropping it for the equiv of 1 bleed stack and something you should be applying most of the time anyway with ease is just silly.

Durzlla.6295:

rabidsmiles.5926:

So it’s not a tiny, little pitiful heal then. Think it’s worth investing the 30 points into BM and not picking up Zephyr’s Speed or Natural Healing? Having another heal every 20sec or so sounds really tempting

Natural Healing will heal for more on you and your pet (just FYI) so if all you want is survivability for you and your pet keep that, however Invigorating Bond is ALSO AoE, so it has a lot more group utility (healing wise) than the other two.

Correct…

Basically if you solo more, use Natural Healing, if you’re running in small mans and groups more..Invigorating Bond is good…However remember that it is 360 Radius, so its very small and will be like most Pet heals… very hard to land

Yea, another thing when you use this ability…There is a really good way to basically make this a range attack for your sword/dagger build

What ya wanna do, is try and use Sword 2 first (the leap back) then swap pets and do it, This will make sure the enemy doesn’t run across from your pet breaking its LOS when it does it.

One of the biggest changes i’ve seen in the patch is actually pretty interesting for the BM Build

Pets no longer have an initialization time after being summoned, where they would stand around doing nothing.

now this might not seem major, until you realize this instantly makes Zypher’s speed in the BM Trait line a lot better.

Before using that trait was pointless, as pets basically stood there for 2 seconds or so wasting most of that traits potential.

However with this change (and I did test it) they no longer do it…This makes pets like the River and Marsh Drake…Much Much better… as soon as you swap they’ll fire all their F2 at the target for some rather nasty burst damage.

So make sure you guys look over that trait when ya test… as that’s a huge boon in some cases.

Chok I tested it again, it does work on the Ranger

Its hard to see though

its basically a 20hp/s heal vs the 44 hp/s heal that Natural Healing is..However its AOE so it works on others.

I’d probably run it though over the old Natural healing, as its a bigger burst heal.

Stealthasaur.2198:

Really cool, good design job. Heavy armor is lighter than light armor and fat dudes can run faster than athletic human chicks…trust me I won tons of races.

http://www.twitch.tv/xii_xii/c/4028596

Edit: Yeah I know I got outplayed by blowing all my stunbreaks but it got to the point where I didn’t even think he would try to hit me so I just went yolo.

You should of titled the thread

“13k HP Thief gets wrecked by Warrior”

Durzlla.6295:

Terravos.4059:

Durzlla.6295:

I’ve come to the conclusion I’m the only one of this forum who actually uses Sic’Em…. It always brings a smile to my face stomping a thief who lost and WOULD have escaped, but reveals a kitten ain’kitten

I switch to it when i see a thief..

But yea…Thieves aren’t that scary..

a Necro is scary

Necros quite literally are “dodge their fear or die” in a lot of cases, it’s pretty stupid… Gonna be happy when we get access to more active condi removal.

I’m more scared of the ability that transfers all my conditions back onto me…. and then they pop signet of spite…. and then i’m dead.

i still don’t get what your fascination is with that poison trait.

Its the equiv of adding 1 stack of bleed to your damage.

You’re pretty much better off going with Spiders for the fact they can apply multiple conditions, and most importantly, every 20 seconds a bloody 4 second Immobilize.

Also there is nothing wrong with BM Builds right now…BM Build will still stomp on most classes rather easily.

Durzlla.6295:

I’ve come to the conclusion I’m the only one of this forum who actually uses Sic’Em…. It always brings a smile to my face stomping a thief who lost and WOULD have escaped, but reveals a kitten ain’kitten

I switch to it when i see a thief..

But yea…Thieves aren’t that scary..

a Necro is scary

Beorn Saxon.4762:

The megaserver concept seems to have been inspired by unsaid MMO about to launch. That MMO also has only 3 wvw teams(alliances). Not saying it’s good or bad. Just stating observations.

While the game has 3 Factions and 1 mega server, technically it still has actual “servers” in regards to AvA

Whenever you select a Campaign, that’s like selecting your servers in GW2. how it differs from WvW is while the campaign has an end, The actual match doesn’t reset.. like Keeps/or Towers or anything, it simply hands out a reward based on how ya did and then starts over.

Rofl…. at people thinking this game needs less AoE in WvW

4 more hours and it won’t be a problem

Rofl…

As someone who invented a build that abused the crap out of these in WvW (see my technobabble videos) you don’t know how funny i find the doom and gloom of these runes being in SPvP

I ended up dropping them in WvW not because they weren’t effective, But because running them required me to give up having a Stun Break. So I actually switched from Perplexity to Traveler’s so i could drop my speed buff and run a Stun Break.

I still run into build running this Rune set, and I find them no harder then any other person I fight out there.

I mean this is a build that’s countered heavily by stability alone, and its biggest Advantage (the 4 point ability) which was more useful for the fact it was yet another condition for coverage is being nerfed.

Necromancers are not overrated..They’re very dangerous to fight

I actually find Condition Bunker Engineers far easier to fight then a Necromancer

I still don’t think Muddy Terrain should be used over SoR

Its the same amount of Conditions Removed, only you get Full Condition Removal when needed + an extra stun break.

Lightning Reflex of course is a no brainer…