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IMO, currently, there is no reason to buy gold with gems. You can get sufficient gold for small things by doing normal content (without playing the TP or anything like that.). And large things are so expensive that very few people are willing to spend real money to get them.
For example, spark has a buy order of 888 gold. Currently $1 gets less than 6g64s, so the purchase would require $133 to buy. Who’s going to spend that.
Therefore, I predict that the gem to gold conversion will continue to rise until the price of purchasing a precursor falls within a reasonable range. (like… $40). Which means it will rise more or less forever.
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Hi,
I’m sitting about 50g now and want to buy some gems. But I refuse to buy them when I get less than 100 gems for each 10g. Last night it would just not get to that level. For my 50, it was 490, 497, 495… etc and never above 500.
So, get off your Duff and buy some gems with cash so that I get above 50 for my 50g.
Please.
The title of this topic offers great advice and you could follow.
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OP is being ridiculous trying to address a known issue, but if precursors were reasonable obtainable outside of the TP everybody would be complaining about T6, lodestone etc. prices.
Unless drop rates were increased to keep up with the demand.
Everything about the economy is in ANets hands. That’s the beauty of a virtual economy. If an item is plentiful, it’s because ANet decided to make it plentiful. If it’s rare, it’s because ANet decided to make it rare.
Not quite. When you have super rich people/groups buying 75% of the Dusks on the TP or all of a given Precursor for example, they are monopolizing that market to keep making gold for themselves and setting their own prices.
ANet could fix that by upping the drop rate until the rich people broke (they would eventually). But they don’t want to and they won’t.
That’s ok. I have better things to do with my time anyway.
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OP is being ridiculous trying to address a known issue, but if precursors were reasonable obtainable outside of the TP everybody would be complaining about T6, lodestone etc. prices.
Unless drop rates were increased to keep up with the demand.
Everything about the economy is in ANets hands. That’s the beauty of a virtual economy. If an item is plentiful, it’s because ANet decided to make it plentiful. If it’s rare, it’s because ANet decided to make it rare.
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I see reddit down-voting and flaming whenever someone brings up converting gem to gold through the gem store.
Good.
Rewards earned solely through gold sinks and credit card swiping are extremely lame. Call me crazy, but I like to earn things through actual gameplay; I’m glad to know that there are people out there that feel the same way I do.
Depends on the game play. IMO gw2 has never rewarded fun gameplay. They have rewarded stacking and zerging.
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I think the negative feelings are from the people who can’t afford to purchase Gems with real money. That leads to jealousy of people like us who have made a lot of Gem purchases.
I have a lot of jealousy against people who make 1000’s of gold in the TP. I’m generally told to suck it up. I suggest these people do the same.
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For me, I want to be rewarded sufficiently so that I feel like I accomplished something during a play session. If I do a long play session I want to feel like I accomplished more than I did during a short play session.
I don’t want to put a gold / hour tag on it, because inflation makes that relative.
If I spend a week, run 3 dungeons a day and end up with 25 gold, but during that time the precursor I want has risen 50 gold, I don’t feel like I accomplished anything, I just feel further behind.
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lol. I’m leet skillz.
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As a speculator, I guess you have to take the good with the bad.
You win more than you lose.
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I would be interesting to see what would happen if flipping suddenly ceased.
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What I meant was, if you’re having fun then you don’t (or at least I don’t) care about the rewards too much. Once I’m reward driven it means I’m not really having that much fun anymore.
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^^ assumes, of course, that they aren’t having fun anymore. But at this point I assume that’s a given.
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Four things need to occur here. 1: DR and loot restrictions must go. 2: double RNG must be a thing of the past, no more buying crafting bags only to get the same things drop or having a second drop rate for bags from mobs than the drop rate of the items from the bags. 3: Precursors and ALL runes/sigils must become crafted items. 4: And finally, the rewards for completing maps/puzzles/finding hidden chests/completing major events should all be increased, that way players actually FEEL rewarded. Please no more of this “I completed a major map, got 5 silver!” nonsense.
And we’re right back at “Entitlement”. All the things you suggest are meant to only benefit your instant gratification. By implementing 3 of 4 of these, you actually destroy the game faster.
-What happens when you run out of carrots to gather? You quit playing.
-What happens when you take away the gates, and allow farmers to run rampant with loot drops? You create inflation.
-What happens when you increase loot drops from events that are farmed daily by thousands of players? You create more inflation.Be prepared for Precursor crafting though. Once that comes out, you’ll get a feel for what a real grind is. I’ve already been speculating as to what components this will require, and have been farming them up in hopes to be one of the first to craft and sell them.
Yes, I feel entitled to a gratifying experience when I play a game. I have no problem with that.
Also, when you get all the carrots you quit the game and feel good about it. So you tend to like the company and remember the experience fondly.
When you quit a game because the carrots are impossible to reach or so far away you decide you will never get them you hate the game and feel at lot of animosity toward the company.
Either way people quit. It just depends how they feel about you when they go.
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You need to give us out-of-combat travel skills, for some very simple reasons.
1) Everyone equips a travel skill when leveling up, just to move faster while clearing areas. I am doing with my ranger now, I did with my elementalist, and so on. I wasted a skill slot on something passive, or even equipped a weapon I didn’t want just to move around faster. Essentially, you made the game less fun for me for making me have one less combat skill to use while leveling up because I wanted to get to point A to B faster, and switching skills all the time is annoying.
2) To balance/normalize travel speed between classes. It´s unfair a warrior can easily stack 1 minute of speed boost while other classes can’t.
3) Speed boost is a boost for combat. Outside of combat it is irrelevant, giving us an out-of-combat travel skill doesn’t conflict with anything.
If you don’t want to add actually cosmetic mounts, there is something already in the game you can use as the basis for travel speed skills: the Zephyr Sanctum people. They developed many skills solely about movement, and we could acquire a travel skill form them – to be used by a button or a specific slot – to move around the maps with haste without relying (or ruining) on our combat skills.
1) http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Waypoint
2) http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Speed_Booster
3) look back at 1&2.
Thank me later.
1. Waypoint prices add up quickly, and are worthless when exploring new areas.
2. Real world money for a painfully small, temporary boost? No thanks.
I personally expect constant and continual gratification from a game I play for fun. If you want to be bored go to class or get a job.
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I think that ANet isn’t really willing to increase the amount of meaningful rewards that people get and therefore people will not do difficult content. It’s just not worth it.
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RIP 14/14/14/14/14 OP build.
It was never meant to be a build – jeez – get over it.
How do you know? Do you work for ArenaNet and have access to confidential information that the rest of us do not? Or are you assuming that it it were intended it would be in the game?
There are literally billions of different ways different items can combine in this game. You’re saying that one of them was not intended implies that every other one was?
I don’t think you know anything, but are instead just being mean-spirited.
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Both. It’s a blessing because you can get what you want, you don’t have to worry about scams, it’s a gold sink, etc…
It’s a curse because it enable very low drop rates on the things that you want.
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Kind of sad that you have to spend so much money on keys and chests for an item instead of just playing the game and clearing content. Protip: gold grind is not content.
OP did not have to spend anything.
He wanted a skin and chose to take the expensive route to get there.This is a case of an uninformed player spending more than he needed to because he didn’t understand the Black Lion Chest system (a common problem).
This. The basic rule of this game is never buy anything that is RNG from the gem store. You are always better off buying it from the TP.
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The only thing that I think may be out of alignment is the 30% difference between the buy and sell price. Obviously the higher gold prices go the larger the split becomes. There may be a time when it is neither worthwhile to buy gold with gems or to buy gems with gold.
Unless we hit that point, there’s no problem.
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The prices skyrocketed with legendaries being account bound and the skins being infinitely applicable.
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Who would have thought people were hoarding scarce resources. I hope a lot of people get stung hard.
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Why would anyone buy a superior rune of holding for 11g?
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I think you are coming at this wrong a MMO perspective and that’s not really the best approach as there is no tank.
So here some little things you should know.
There are no healer, tanks, or DPS per se. Each class does it’s own thing.
Aggro is determined based on factors such as proximity, damage, and armor. There are no taunt skills.
The game focuses more on positioning and active dodging for damage mitigation.
I recommend you roll a warrior first. They are a solid performer and are good in both PvE and PvP play. Ranged is never the best choice in this game, but the longbow is a solid ranged weapon (ignore the rifle).
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I think the official response is to buy an expensive extractor. I think it would be much better to allow all gear to be salvaged. Even if it didn’t give anything back except for the rune / sigil.
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How big to you think a chunk of gold ore is, very very small? It take 4 gold ore to make an earring hook.
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IMO a precursor vendor wouldn’t be worse than what we have now. But it wouldn’t be better.
Everything that’s wrong about a precursor is wrong because, for all practical, purposes you have to buy one. Making a vendor who sells them isn’t going to fix it.
ANet is way too afraid of giving people decent loot.
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Um, it’s pretty simple. If I want to remain competitive, and be the best I could be, I have to have max stats in WvW. I have to have max stats in PvE as well, because I’m one of those people who actually CARE about doing very well, and I hate dragging the team down.
Like I said, other people can special snowflake it all they want, but don’t go calling me “bad” or my gear a “crutch” just because I enjoy improving my character.
Nothing you have stated in this thread has in any way PROVEN you need Ascended gear to be “competative” (certainly not in WvW). Having BiS equipment does not make you best at anything (other than jumping on the grind bandwagon for BiS gear). There is NOTHING wrong with you wanting to improve your stats by crafting Ascended gear and I applaud your efforts, but who are actually trying to convince that it is absolutely necessary to play end game content? (because it is NOT required).
BTW some Elitist (yeah, I used the word) ideal that you MUST have Ascended gear or you are a “noob” or a 2nd rate player is NOT a valid “requirement” but a prejudicial viewpoint (that you have every right to fool yourself into believing).
I will caveat my statements by saying if your desire is to play high level Fractals, then Ascended gear IS needed (but for the ability to slot AR, not for the minor stat increases).
Sorry but just no. He doesn’t have to “prove” anything. The gear is out there, it gives better stats, period. Unless you want to debate that “fact,” prove to my satisfaction that stats don’t matter.
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Since everyone keeps saying that the OP knew the risks. Can someone please let me know where ANet has posted the odds?
Inherent in any scratch ticket is the fact that your odds of winning are clearly published.
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It surprises me sometimes that for all the talk of converting gold to gems nobody ever offers the other direction as a solution. Enameled dyes can be bought directly using gems if you go through the exchange.
As of this morning the range is:
- Enameled Legacy Dye ~190 gems.
- Enameled Crimson Dye ~1100 gems.
No randomness required.
edit: Lol – Raistlan did the thing i said nobody did, beat me to it
It’s all about perception, not reality.
When you buy something from the gem store 1000 gems, use your card or whatever, but the item and you’re done.
When you but 1000 gems for gold, you buy the gems. Convert the gems to gold (feel bad about the 15% gem to gold conversion tax). Buy the item from the TP for the gold (feel bad because some lucky jerk is getting the gold I paid cash for). Get the item (feel bad because I have now reinforced the RNG mechanic I hate in the gem store).
I end up with the dye but I feel dirty and I feel less good about it than I feel about direct purchases.
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I wonder why the hell this rune is much more expensive than scholar especially there’s more strength runes than scholars, hype and manipulation before demand = Wall Street Wars 2.
You can make scholar runes, you can’t make strength runes.
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Everything you said is 100% exactly how most if not all of us seasoned mmo players feel. It’s those that have never played an mmo before gw2 or are just starting to play mmos that will disagree with you.
Good job and excellent commentary.It’s beyond absurd to speak for anyone other than yourself on matters like this. Assigning your view to an entire community is nothing more than a blatantly-arrogant attempt at making your opinions seem more legitimate. For instance, I played WoW for four or five years before GW2, and, apart from the “first MMO” wonder and magic of WoW, I feel that GW2 is superior in just about every way. So stop trying to speak for me; it’s disgraceful.
Seasoned MMO player here.
Don’t feel that way.
Do you two even know how to read? I said “MOST” Do you know what that means? It means NOT EVERYONE. I’m sorry the public school system failed you. Move on.
I’ll posit the same question to you. I said that it’s ridiculous to speak for anyone other than yourself, and yourself alone, and your retort is “I only said most people, not all?” That’s not a valid defense to my complaint.
Really? These are the most pedantic comments I have ever seen. Can’t you address the issue instead of nitpicking like a grammarian with an unabridged dictionary?
No one believes that anyone here speaks for everyone else.
Or at the very least look up hyperbole first.
(Edit: initial comment about the worst comments I have ever seen were an intentional use of hyperbole, just in case you missed it.)
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The game is very casual for 90% of the content. If you want the last 10% you have to be hardcore. It also helps if you have a high tolerance for repetition.
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Thank you for your gold.
This comes across quite flippant.
But it comes from the bottom of my heart.
And you wonder why people hate TP traders??? Really? You could at least put on a decent outward face and cackle like scrooge mcduck in private.
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John Smith already said that before he would consider providing metrics like that, a well-reasoned argument as to why that data would be relevant was required.
He isn’t going to provide data about wealth disparities unless someone presents a reasoned argument that wealth disparities are bad.
Horse feathers.
They are not going to provide that data under any circumstances (no matter how compelling the argument) because it would cause a huge uproar among the community. (They were happy to release that information when the news was good).
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/john-smith-on-the-guild-wars-2-virtual-economy/
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Look, I’m not sure why people are saying this is in any way trolling. I’m trying to find a way to balance the complaints that there’s too much wealth in this game. With the idea of loot tax, this affects all players across the board. It’s a way to control the wealth that the game generates by focusing on the point players receive it. It’s also a good way to keep rare items rare. If you don’t have enough money to pay for the tax on a particular item, you can’t pick it up. Prices would inevitably drop because there’s less total wealth in the world.
I will happily accept an additional 15% tax on everything that comes into my characters pocket if you accept an additional 15% tax on everything that comes into your characters pocket.
As in you collect gold and POOF, 15% disappears.
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GW2 is a good solid game that can keep you entertained for a year or more.
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Expect a major patch like this to drop around 5pm server time.
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You crafted two legendaries and you still have two legendaries. I don’t understand why you would think you deserve compensation.
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Final point and I’m done with this topic, because I don’t feel like you want to engage, I feel like you want to defend the status quo, which frankly, isn’t very interesting to me.
The TP will never be nerfed because it’s a sink not a source.
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Anyway, I’m not even advocating this. I don’t understand why I can’t point out where I would start looking without people trying to pick everything I say apart. It’s like I suggesting a nerf to stealth or something.
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Two points:
1) Regarding technical difficult, that’s somebody else’s problem. I assume that they could provide the same rigor and analysis to TP profits that they did to COF p.1 farming before they decided to nerf it. But given that Visa and Mastercard can successfully track hundreds of thousands of transactions a day (if not an hour) I’m unwilling to concede anything on technical feasibility.
2) I also know that you can look at your history and see what you’ve bought and sold over the past X days, so the data is there for mining. You may not be able to know that I bought this unidentified dye and later sold it, but I can look at how many dyes I’ve bought and sold. That makes for a reasonable approximation.
3) I would not track items that have been altered. I would only track pure investment and flipping. Which definitely simplifies the analysis.
Also, I will not state an actual amount, because I don’t have the numbers to figure one out, or the analysis tools to figure out what would be correct. I said I had a start, not a complete plan. If I say a number that’s too low, you’ll argue that I’m hurting the average Joe, if I say a number that’s too high, you’ll argue that it wouldn’t have any effect. Which is why I said X.
So let’s just put the profits of each person for a day on a graph (filtering out those who have no profit in the day). Use the mean. That means that half of the flippers / investors would not be affected and half of the flippers / investors would be reduced to trading at the mean.
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My point is that people asked to limit potential profits on the tp because the dont feel equally rewarded doing other activities.
I simply asked, how do you measure trading profits? This is essential, as first off all, its part of the proof that potential profits on the tp are too high. If we find a working formula or definition on how to measure profits, Anet can apply that formula and see, if profits on the tp are significantly higher for some players than others.
And Anet cant nerf, what they cant define.
Gah! Too many quotes. Personally, I would measure exactly what I said, the amount of currency made by selling something on the TP that was also acquired (by the same person) on the TP.
Further, just like taxes, I’d bread it down into long term speculation and short term flipping.
To me, those are “investment” income. Money made on the TP by farming and selling would not be counted (“earned” income — tax language, not mine).
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Could you imagine? DR on the TP, after 20 minutes of trading your profit gets cut in half? How about RNG, you still pay your gold, but you may or might not get or item. Perhaps a porous bone instead :P
OK, start by telling me your formula of how you measure profit on the tp.
Sale price * .85 – buy price?
edit: FYI, he wasn’t serious. He was just applying the money making restrictions on the rest of the game to the TP.
Doubtful since his previous suggestions have been very similar in ridiculousness.
Also what if I don’t buy the item? What if I just go around farming routes to sell?
To keep the game balanced with current earnings, items that you farm yourself and sell through the TP will be taxed at a flat 100%.
(Just for those few people who don’t understand my somewhat dry wit. That is a joke. DR on the TP inherently doesn’t make sense. If one were to limit the TP it would have to be based on volume not profit.)
Edit 2: I am not advocating limited TP by volume. Just saying that’s where you’d have to start.
OK, start with volume then. Give me an example how you would do it, that would limit profits on the tp without limiting the trading post itself.
P.S.: you still havent proven, how profits on the TP can effectively be measured.
A) How else to you measure profit rather than price – fees – cost?
B) I’m not trying to prove anything, because I’m not posting a suggestion.
C) There’s no reason I can’t limit the trading post this is hypothetical, I don’t have to play by your rules (the you’re not the boss of me defense) / nor are you JS.
But if I wanted to limit the TP, here is how I would do it 1) traders are limited to X sell orders or Y g in sell orders / day. Whichever results in more orders (that is, you can sell lots of cheap items or a few expensive items.).
To argue that this would limit the trading post you are essentially saying that people who sell more than that make up a substantial portion of the trades and that removing those people would adversely harm the TP. I don’t believe those two things are true. If you want to discuss this, please respond with something more thoughtful than a glib one-liner.
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Could you imagine? DR on the TP, after 20 minutes of trading your profit gets cut in half? How about RNG, you still pay your gold, but you may or might not get or item. Perhaps a porous bone instead :P
OK, start by telling me your formula of how you measure profit on the tp.
Sale price * .85 – buy price?
edit: FYI, he wasn’t serious. He was just applying the money making restrictions on the rest of the game to the TP.
Doubtful since his previous suggestions have been very similar in ridiculousness.
Also what if I don’t buy the item? What if I just go around farming routes to sell?
To keep the game balanced with current earnings, items that you farm yourself and sell through the TP will be taxed at a flat 100%.
(Just for those few people who don’t understand my somewhat dry wit. That is a joke. DR on the TP inherently doesn’t make sense. If one were to limit the TP it would have to be based on volume not profit.)
Edit 2: I am not advocating limited TP by volume. Just saying that’s where you’d have to start.
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Could you imagine? DR on the TP, after 20 minutes of trading your profit gets cut in half? How about RNG, you still pay your gold, but you may or might not get or item. Perhaps a porous bone instead :P
OK, start by telling me your formula of how you measure profit on the tp.
Sale price * .85 – buy price?
edit: FYI, he wasn’t serious. He was just applying the money making restrictions on the rest of the game to the TP.
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So far the game is worth playing (over a year in).
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Let’s be honest, this request has NOTHING to do with being “RICH” in GW2. It is direct attempt to “punish” (yes, I used the word) those that choose to “play the BLTP”. If Anet does not feel it necessary to put limit or stop his way of “playing the game”, then those that choose to be full time traders are doing nothing against the rules of the game that requires them to be “punished”.
I disagree. This is asking for the incentives to play the BLTP to be reduced. There’s just too much money to be made there and it’s unfun for other players.
When they nerf champion bags it’s not to punish people who run the champ train. It’s to a) balance the economy and b) encourage people to do other stuff.
So just because it’s “unfun” for other players it should be nerfed? Alright, champ trains, dungeons, and world bosses are unfun for me. Nerf it plox, anet. You do see how ridiculous that is, right? If there’s that much “money to be made” on the trade post, there’s vastly easier solutions than suggesting ideas that impact low-cash players far more than it ever affects TP players. You know, like educating players on HOW money is made on the trade post.
Unfortunately, in any game with a market like this, asking to reduce the incentive, or profit, of taking advantage of market trends, is basically saying “I cant make money, therefore market wolves shouldnt make money either.” In fact, many of the other games that encourage market manipulation, encourage it so much that they openly support players using cutthroat tactics to defend, take over, or destroy profitability of markets. There are entire clans and guilds dedicated to such activities.
Obviously Anet doesnt encourage such tactics, but they do not outright ban people for doing it either. In fact, some members of my guild had been bored enough at one point that they establishekittenhril ingot wall at roughly 85c with 2.5 million in the wall just because they had that many stacks of the stuff lying around.
champ trains — nerfed,
dungeons – nerfed,
world bosses -- nerfed
Everyone one of those has already been nerfed. Every other way of making money in this game gets shafted except for the TP. Maybe it’s your turn.
Anyway, I don’t think the BLTP will be nerfed or could be nerfed with it’s current design, so there’s no reason to get into a twist. But that doesn’t mean I don’t think something should be done, or that anyone’s offered a compelling reason why it shouldn’t.
Discussion about risk is largely irrelevant (IMO) because anything that capped earnings would also limit risk.
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Let’s be honest, this request has NOTHING to do with being “RICH” in GW2. It is direct attempt to “punish” (yes, I used the word) those that choose to “play the BLTP”. If Anet does not feel it necessary to put limit or stop his way of “playing the game”, then those that choose to be full time traders are doing nothing against the rules of the game that requires them to be “punished”.
I disagree. This is asking for the incentives to play the BLTP to be reduced. There’s just too much money to be made there and it’s unfun for other players.
When they nerf champion bags it’s not to punish people who run the champ train. It’s to a) balance the economy and b) encourage people to do other stuff.
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I disagree with the premise that 100g = 99g99s99c.
There is some utility in a copper. The only question is who should be able to extract that value. I can’t see any good reason why it should be the person who places a buy order or the person placing a sell order (as opposed to the seller and buyer, respectively).
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