A proof that a mediocre warrior > a mediocre thief… Man, I really needed a video to know that.
But seriously, every single player knows that warriors are too strong right now and the upcoming “nerfs” won’t change anything. Beating a thief as an engi should be pretty easy as well (too much condition spam), ranger could be interesting.
Would be nice to see you playing an ele after that.
But wait, theres more! We have “good things in store”. Expect dancing dagger to cripple for 4 seconds and ambush thief to get a 10% bonus to their health pool.
That’s a 33% buff to the cripple duration! That’s pretty massive!
thats what anet does. they use a statistic or % to make it sound 10x better than it is. so insulting to the players. we are ….duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
everytime there is a challenge. i hear “im EU and ur NA” well guess what im EU too. lets join up and do it. right now. oh …wait. i say 1 sentance to you in game and welcome to ignore. 
keep going solo and you’ll never prove your point.
seriously. look at your 2 vids. then mine. why does mine have like 20x more shades and risen? mm? ill listen to your explanation although u will ignore it like u always do.
fail. lawl;.
Ending up having to kite an army of Shades is totally tricking the game, guys
Too busy dodging/healing to do damage? Pistol Whip dodges, heals AND does damage. Point = moot.
I eagerly await to hear what’s wrong with this one. And, if you didn’t pay attention the first time around, I won’t join you because you are NA, unless you are willing to pay $60 and grind a new character for me. Then, I’d be happy to squash your “challenges” in person.
u didnt fight int he corner. thats much better. so 1/3 problems i pointed out u fixed. why do u go out of your way to join a dead server to find a way to solo it. its still downscaled. its STILL no shades…and only 1-2 risen. all you ahve to do to beat him like that is dodge aoe. its cupcake work. ill pm u in game now. ima invite u for grenth. we can do it together.. ill tape it. or do you prefer to keep it solo and downscale it so theres no shades etc and no risen and MUCH lower HP on everything?
friend of mine. hes a goodthief. aikijinx was with me doing a small round of grenth,. i was on guard. i suck at guard so dont have to remind me… i play thief. anyway i said do lots of dmg….use the SOM build and just stay alive. well lets look at what happened.
ill invite auesis or anyone who wants to come try. be interesting to see how they do
I still don’t understand what you’re trying to prove.
we have a 10% dmg nerf overall coming. it hurts thieves obvioulsy more than other classes bc we are dependent on dmg. anyway point is… i dont even play guard. even i can do an easy job at survival/dmg in a frantic situation like grenth. an 8 year old can do that really on guard/warrior and ele etc. point is with thief taking the big hit onthis upcoming nerf….. i ask WHY!? why when guards and other classes can do that which such ease. anet thinks direct dmg is a lil over the top and trying to shave a lil. whats really over the top is other classes which have their survivability handed to them by “no skill ability” as anet calls it. some is passive…if notmost…but some is also witless required skill to achieve such adept power/survivability/sustainability etc. other classes are clearly more OP in wvw/pve yet dmg is taking the nerf which affects thief most.
This nerf is going to affect all classes that wish to roll heavily on berserker stats. It’s not targeted at thieves in general but the berserker community and in their live stream, they even clearly said that berserkers will still be dominant when it comes to a DPS race.
What you showed us is that the guardian doesn’t die quickly and you think that sustain = more damage than thieves. Sometimes having more upfront damage makes the difference in PvE due to less time the boss is hitting you. Which is why most PvE players want you to get comfortable with berserker gear.
Thieves will be fine with this change to crit damage. Berserkers will be fine with this change. Thieves will adjust and adapt to the change like every other class. We will just see less boom. I personally hate PvE as I think it’s the most boring aspect of the game and is predictable and scripted. There is nothing dynamic to PvE.
the only class that goes full zerk 90% of the time…or close to it…is thief. our dmg is our survivability. thief gets hit the hardest….not just the thief….but they do get hit harder bc its their specialty. if u hit defense -10%…guardians would be mad bc thieves are killing them much faster. u know? it affects each class differently.
friend of mine. hes a goodthief. aikijinx was with me doing a small round of grenth,. i was on guard. i suck at guard so dont have to remind me… i play thief. anyway i said do lots of dmg….use the SOM build and just stay alive. well lets look at what happened.
ill invite auesis or anyone who wants to come try. be interesting to see how they do
I still don’t understand what you’re trying to prove.
we have a 10% dmg nerf overall coming. it hurts thieves obvioulsy more than other classes bc we are dependent on dmg. anyway point is… i dont even play guard. even i can do an easy job at survival/dmg in a frantic situation like grenth. an 8 year old can do that really on guard/warrior and ele etc. point is with thief taking the big hit onthis upcoming nerf….. i ask WHY!? why when guards and other classes can do that which such ease. anet thinks direct dmg is a lil over the top and trying to shave a lil. whats really over the top is other classes which have their survivability handed to them by “no skill ability” as anet calls it. some is passive…if notmost…but some is also witless required skill to achieve such adept power/survivability/sustainability etc. other classes are clearly more OP in wvw/pve yet dmg is taking the nerf which affects thief most.
friend of mine. hes a goodthief. aikijinx was with me doing a small round of grenth,. i was on guard. i suck at guard so dont have to remind me… i play thief. anyway i said do lots of dmg….use the SOM build and just stay alive. well lets look at what happened.
ill invite auesis or anyone who wants to come try. be interesting to see how they do
Travlane you’re not a thief, or a guardian, you’re barely a player. You’ve made an absolute fool of yourself here, and I sincerely advise you either work to improve, go find another (easier) game to play, and/or just stop posting on here where so many people have to cringe at your lack of basic common sense.
if u attack somebody rather than their comments….. ad hominem.
cmon grow up seriously. i wont even report what you are saying. but u can challenge me infact ill msg u in game now.
my point was made. most people agree. a video was made to prove it wrong…. it had 1 of the same enemies but was vastly set up different so … fail!
ever finish HS? did u go to college? i have. know anything experiments? controls? variables? go finish and you will understand why these 2 videos are VASTLY different and so is the difficulty.
LOL. You are lecturing people on the principles of the scientific method but on the other hand in order to try to prove that thieves are not OP in PvP you post PVE content on your guardian.
You are ridiculous.
no sir. u are. im not talking about pvp LOL! you fail! its about the 10% overall dmg nerf coming in. perhaps read more thoroughly ?
You aren’t talking about PvP? Then why did you say this?
point is this is OP. not thief.
Are there a bunch of posts complaining that thief is OP in PvE that I’m not aware of?
Also, people don’t call thieves OP in PvP because of their damage.You are ridiculous.
OP does not = PVP. OP = OVERPOWERED
what are you talking about? this whole post is about the upcoming -10% dmg nerf coming in march. get with the program. warrior/guard is so OP in pve. and yes this dmg nerf affects wvw too where most thieves roam with power/crit dmg builds.
Travlane you’re not a thief, or a guardian, you’re barely a player. You’ve made an absolute fool of yourself here, and I sincerely advise you either work to improve, go find another (easier) game to play, and/or just stop posting on here where so many people have to cringe at your lack of basic common sense.
if u attack somebody rather than their comments….. ad hominem.
cmon grow up seriously. i wont even report what you are saying. but u can challenge me infact ill msg u in game now.
my point was made. most people agree. a video was made to prove it wrong…. it had 1 of the same enemies but was vastly set up different so … fail!
ever finish HS? did u go to college? i have. know anything experiments? controls? variables? go finish and you will understand why these 2 videos are VASTLY different and so is the difficulty.
LOL. You are lecturing people on the principles of the scientific method but on the other hand in order to try to prove that thieves are not OP in PvP you post PVE content on your guardian.
You are ridiculous.
no sir. u are. im not talking about pvp LOL! you fail! its about the 10% overall dmg nerf coming in. perhaps read more thoroughly ? LAWL i said why should we thieves get the nerf when guardians can do this?
Will someone please explain what a bad mouse-clicking guardian killing PvE content has to do with thieves being called OP in PvP/WvW?
lol ur new to forums. im a thief. i have my skills hotkeyed to my thief. i dont play guardian. thats half the point.
I play multiple classes and don’t mouseclick on any of them. You are nothing but excuses.
Answer the question. What does a clip of a mouseclicking guardian killing PvE content have to do with thieves being called OP in PvP or WvW?
well i dont play guardian. like less than .1 % of my time. i have no muscle memory for my THIEF’s hotkeys to be transfered over to guard. its like me adding a new class to game and new skills for it and making u hop on and use hotkeys without changing anythign. are you simple? lol
I played a game weekend before last that I had never played before. I did not mouseclick at any time. It took me less than an hour to build the basic muscle memory for the character.
Maybe you are just bad.
maybe ur just a hero. sorry i cant claim to be good on guard when i dont play one. maybe u can. good for u. im great on thief only. rest i kindly just dily daly on. btw half the skills were mouseclicked…not that that is much better but w.e.
point is when 20-100 people come guardian can stay alive WHILE FIGHTING for 6.5 mins. when 20-100 people come thief cant fight without resetting and running away bc they cant afford even 1 mistake…or if they can its only 1.
his video needs to be perfect conditions. guardian video = any conditions.
I wonder how Travlane will justify his claims now
By undermining the video, of course.
I called it. Give me all your +1’s.
This is why your challenges go unresponded. Fortunately this wasn’t a waste of time, because 1) the response video was an enjoyable watch, 2) I learned something interesting about the Grenth fight, and 3) dem Legendaries.
answer the questions i gave aueses. the 3. u wont bc u know and i bow out
1) why didnt a bunch of shades and risen spawn and attack him
2) why was mine upscaled so much and not his?
3) why did he use corner with NOBODY around and i fought in OPEN?
pretty obvious. the challenge was that guardian could stand in the middle of FRAY with ease and still do dmg while a thief doing the same would be dead. he did NOTHING like that in video.
@AUESIS
let me make this simple for you.
why did my vid have lots of shades attacking and yours didnt?
why was my enemies (preist/risen/shades) have higher hp AND scaled up?
why did you pull your priest into a corner while i fight in open?
Auesis.7301
wait til the evening whentheres some players to upscale the event and try again. if u do it…ill truly be impressed. and i wont say anything silly.
if you DO do it CORRECTLY….. it still takes much more effort and perfection than guardian. but i don think when its upscaled with so many people you will be able to do this. the priest wont be in the corner.
this corniness reminds me of a challenge i put on another thief. i said condi thief can clear wvw camp faster than direct dmg. he said no way. we both made videos his was like 1-2 secs faster until i remade but still. he used a cheap trick. he could only do it on ONE camp on ONE map. he used the NE camp and brought them down around the rock and cluttered them up (took few tries) and used s/p.
so by slight techinicality he was right. in reality he was totally wrong bc nobody gets the chance to do that 98% of the time. nobody also uses s/p in wvw. its d/p or d/d or p/d or sb. either way dont be corny and accept the challenge
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